Turing breaks Enigma - The Imitation Game (2014)

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Thanks to overhearing a clerk's (Tuppence Middleton) conversation in a bar, Alan (Benedict Cumberbatch) has a stroke of genius and realizes he can program Christopher to decode words he already knows exist in certain messages.
Film: The Imitation Game
Released: 2014
Director: Morten Tyldum
Distributor: The Weinstein Company

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@wolfcl0ck
@wolfcl0ck Рік тому
Here is your reminder that Alan Turing is the godfather of all computers and literally saved the world by breaking the enigma code, and for his efforts, he was chemically castrated for being gay and later either committed suicide or was assassinated.
@LarryDickman1
@LarryDickman1 Рік тому
Proves how fucked up the world is.
@aaronpaul9188
@aaronpaul9188 Рік тому
He is influential, but his contribution is dramatically overstated overall. Still a very sad fate.
@darshdesai2754
@darshdesai2754 Рік тому
‘Overstated’ ? Enlighten me on what is your contribution?
@paullowman9131
@paullowman9131 Рік тому
Incredible lack of humanity. Those responsible were absolute bastards and abominations to treat this great man so.
@WillLI05
@WillLI05 Рік тому
@@darshdesai2754 Aaron is right though. Like he's not trying to say that Turing didn't do anything. But in Wolf's post he called him the godfather of computers...that's just not true. Not only did Turing not invent computers, he didn't even invent 'Computer Science', he invented Theoretical Computer Science, which is a branch of it. Also people credit him with coming up with the concept of AI, that is also false, he came up with a method that he theorized could test if a machine truly had an AI. The point is Turing had a big impact, but people credit him with way more than he actually did.
@captprice0079
@captprice0079 8 місяців тому
"And one day, When they've punished you enough, they'll serve you salmon and potato salad, make speeches, give you a medal, and pat you in the back telling all is forgiven. Just remember, it won't be for you... it would be for them."
@jaivan30
@jaivan30 Місяць тому
Great quote. So sad what genius goes through.
@MrCharrrles
@MrCharrrles 29 днів тому
oppenheimer?
@SergeantExtreme
@SergeantExtreme 29 днів тому
@@MrCharrrles No, Turing. He was treated harshly for being gay.
@sernoddicusthegallant6986
@sernoddicusthegallant6986 29 днів тому
@@SergeantExtreme The quote is from the recent oppenheimer movie
@lyndonfisher299
@lyndonfisher299 26 днів тому
Yes. Exactly. Shit world we live in
@Khujandiho
@Khujandiho Рік тому
The concept of this scene is: engineers must talk with people in the field more often
@cbarak72
@cbarak72 Рік тому
And drink beer
@pedrofranciscodominguez832
@pedrofranciscodominguez832 Рік тому
True, however Alan Turing was not an engineer but a mathematician
@decibellone696
@decibellone696 Рік тому
Something tells me, you - like me, work with engeers. who drive me nutz.
@stlbigbad23
@stlbigbad23 Рік тому
@@decibellone696 I am an engineer and trust me; the feeling is mutual.
@hectoralejandro9883
@hectoralejandro9883 Рік тому
We don’t want to 😋
@danhenderson8312
@danhenderson8312 Рік тому
The most hardcore element of that is they had to let certain attacks go ahead so the Germans wouldn't catch on that Enigma had been broken. War is hell.
@BradfordMcEwenVARENNA
@BradfordMcEwenVARENNA Рік тому
Look at Pearl Harbor(ROSEVELT NEEDED TO PROVOKE AMERICA TO WAR), SEPTEMBER 11TH( TO PASS PATRIOT ACT ).
@PuppetierMaster
@PuppetierMaster Рік тому
Wasn't really their decision they were code breakers full stop, not generals or commanders in the field just 1s and 0s. Office clerks at the end of the day sending pieces of paper along - THEN the Admiralty board would choose which amount of convoys would die that day and then spin the wheel again the next day. Alen Turning was gay i'll not refute that but outside that little known fact he was a code breaker any one of the many thousand and one smart people in the UK at the time would gladly trip over their shoe laces for the same chance. However, Turning liked to use computers more than most so we got that.
@kk-qu1zc
@kk-qu1zc Рік тому
@@PuppetierMaster He was gae?
@l.ch.6447
@l.ch.6447 Рік тому
@@kk-qu1zc yes
@aaronpaul9188
@aaronpaul9188 Рік тому
Thats largely fiction.
@qelapafu
@qelapafu Рік тому
Imagine how further along technically we’d be if he was able to continue his work.
@Tunoi_Veil
@Tunoi_Veil Рік тому
He was.
@qelapafu
@qelapafu Рік тому
@@Tunoi_Veil after his suicide?
@Tunoi_Veil
@Tunoi_Veil Рік тому
@@qelapafu his after war projects were mediocre at best his peak being enigma.
@stevehdlp7268
@stevehdlp7268 Рік тому
@Nick West yes I get your point but we are only able to innovate in those fields because of computers and stuff like that. It's all based on that and it will only get better because of that. World Hunger would also be done but no one cares not even the company's working on it because that they would go out of business. The best thing we could do is just moving the people.
@hobbso8508
@hobbso8508 Рік тому
@@Tunoi_Veil Because everything they did was classified. Hard to continue a project that you are unable to discuss.
@igorfujs7349
@igorfujs7349 9 місяців тому
In 2013, computer pioneer and codebreaker Alan Turing has been given a posthumous royal pardon. If we have only known better.
@ajvanmarle
@ajvanmarle Місяць тому
Still the wrong thing. A pardon implies that he committed a crime.
@MattyHodge95
@MattyHodge95 Місяць тому
No a pardon means forgiven of an offence which it was at the time.
@DarkFenix2k5
@DarkFenix2k5 Місяць тому
@@ajvanmarle By the law of the time, he did. By modern standards the law of the time was wrong, but that's quite frequently the case with old laws. While it's important to ensure that we've learned from those times and lay down laws differently now, it's also pointless judging the people of the time for it. To them homosexuality was disgusting and immoral, the law reflected that, Turing broke that law.
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx Місяць тому
*if the Victorians had only not been sexual prigs you mean. Even then Victoria herself struck down the law by refusing to sign until they removed women from it, so it wasn't even equal. Turing's contribution to the war effort and computer science has nothing to do with the unfairness of his prosecution - he was just one of many treated thus, and no more deserving of a pardon than they were.
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx Місяць тому
@@skyflyer4231 "Turing deserved to be knighted...........even posthumously" That's not the way that works. Plus knighted or not his notoriety far exceeds most people that have been knighted, so it hardly makes a difference.
@scopex2749
@scopex2749 Місяць тому
Dear Alan you should have been knighted for your work. You saved England and you were treated appallingly. RIP to the father of computers and a true genius.
@joedellinger9437
@joedellinger9437 Місяць тому
He was officially pardoned years later.
@graytonw5238
@graytonw5238 Місяць тому
@@joedellinger9437Yeah, I considered that the final insult, myself. "Pardoned"? Are you kidding me? He should have been officially and posthumously APOLOGIZED to, with the Brits asking for forgiveness for treating him like they did. There's really nothing they could do now to make it right, but they could have at least showed some humility. That's the thing though, the Brits have a long and rich history, but humility is definitely not their strong point.
@BreckThePanther
@BreckThePanther Місяць тому
A lot of people in England still consider him to be a criminal for being gay. I had a few conversations with people about this, the UK isn't a bastion of progressive thought, in particular England, it's quite backwards in many ways.
@201hastings
@201hastings Місяць тому
Calling him the father of computers is wrong. Why do you call him that?
@hermionefourtris2928
@hermionefourtris2928 Місяць тому
@@201hastings The original poster is correct in their statement, but he was more specifically the father of computer science, and he created the Automatic Computing Machine (ACE) that was one of the most successful and advanced early computers. His genius was not confined to wartime heroism by cracking the Enigma with his team, he also contributed greatly to theoretical computer science and early artificial intelligence.
@johngulino2651
@johngulino2651 Рік тому
My older brother was brilliant at writing “code.” Only after I told him about this film did he tell me that Alan Turing was one of his most admired heroes. Rest In Peace, Brian G. and Alan Turing.
@stellviahohenheim
@stellviahohenheim Рік тому
Yeah sure buddy
@vojvoda_vuk
@vojvoda_vuk Рік тому
Yup, after telling you, his soul was finally free and he died.
@parallax8322
@parallax8322 Рік тому
@@stellviahohenheim what reason do you have for assuming this is fake?
@stevegoldstein3402
@stevegoldstein3402 Рік тому
@@parallax8322 well for one, Alan Turing ain’t even dead.
@elogrejbjens4327
@elogrejbjens4327 Рік тому
@@stevegoldstein3402 hes been dead for 68 years?
@intentionaloffside8934
@intentionaloffside8934 Рік тому
When Churchill said ‘Never in the field of human conflict was so much been owed by so many to so few' he may not have just been talking about the RAF.
@truckeronroad_com
@truckeronroad_com Рік тому
"Never in the history of wars has so much been owed by so many to so few" - this is the most famous phrase uttered during World War II by the Prime Minister of Great Britain Winston Churchill's British on August 20, 1940. In this way he honored the airmen of the British RAF (Royal Air Force), who on the 13th day repulsed the massive attack of the German air force (Luftwaffe) on Great Britain. This attack went down in history as the Battle of Britain. These words were said primarily to commemorate the participation of Polish and Czech airmen in this fight. The symbol of their brotherhood in arms is the 303 Squadron (look on Google "303 Repinski Transport Squadron). ;)
@alessandrogentile7744
@alessandrogentile7744 Місяць тому
He was, if only because when he pronounced that sentence the Unit at Bletchley Park hadn't yet broken Enigma. But retrospectively he could have applied to it.
@matvangogh
@matvangogh Місяць тому
He was talking about both because they needed each other. intelligence and Military might go hand in hand. without a military might the intelligence is worthless.
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx Місяць тому
No he was talking about the RAF. The toll on British lives would have been far worse from German bombing raids without them and the work on radar that helped us intercept them. There's importance to Britain itself, and importance to the war effort - in this case he was talking about Britain.
@ChrisPowell-xe7qb
@ChrisPowell-xe7qb Місяць тому
Specifically he said "the geese that laid the golden egg and never gaggled".
@crimepays3019
@crimepays3019 9 місяців тому
A powerful mind can destroy the world, but a kind heart can save it. Rip Alan.
@GiratinaofFury
@GiratinaofFury Місяць тому
That moment when Christopher comes to a halt. Everything stops. The music, the sound, the dialogue. It is a moment that lets it sink in the significance of what just happened. They broke the code. And what's more poignant? It was undone by the enemy's arrogance - by ending every transmission with the same two words, the infamous two words that the egomaniac dictator demanded everyone say to prove their loyalty, ultimately betrayed them.
@Cimlite
@Cimlite Місяць тому
The part of the enemies arrogance was made up for the movie though, there's no record of them ever using the dictator's "catch phrase" as a cheat word. It's a neat piece of writing for the movie, but more likely it seems the most common phrase used in that way was "weather forecast".
@Vic-E.
@Vic-E. Місяць тому
@@Cimlite yep, I also remember in Robert Harris' "Enigma" novel (and the 2001 movie based on it) it was about the weather forecast
@kovesp1
@kovesp1 Місяць тому
They never had a full break (unlike the Poles for the 3 wheel Enigma). They were able to break the more complex later Enigmas by initializing the Bombes (which BTW, is not a computer, it is a multiple Enigma emulator) with heuristics which were called Turingery. It worked on some days, but not on others. And, because Enigma carried tactical traffic, it became out of date very quickly. Strategic traffic was carried by the Lorenz stream-cipher machines which was broken at the end of 1943 using the Colossus computer built by Tommy Flowers based on the work of Bill Tutte with minor input from Turing.
@davidcribbs2
@davidcribbs2 Місяць тому
With just Turing's one little gasp. Then silence.
@andrewgigerich1738
@andrewgigerich1738 24 дні тому
The inherent problem with encryption is that `TRUE` randomness is very difficult to achieve using either computers or people since both excel at both creating and seeing patterns (i.e. those black blotches look like a doggie, those clouds look like...). With that flaw and the directed requirement coming from the idea that code needs to be de-cryptable by the intended party (the sendee), you, as the code-breaker, are left with an always solvable problem where it is known that there is a readable message hidden in the gobbledygook. As shown here, the more likely you know the content of any message, the easier it becomes.
@ryanmcewen415
@ryanmcewen415 Рік тому
Alan Turing was betrayed by the country he saved. But he gave us modern computing. The geeks and nerds of the world are his true people and we will Honour him for his contributions even if his nation wouldn't.
@easterworshipper730
@easterworshipper730 Рік тому
Is just a movie.
@ryanmcewen415
@ryanmcewen415 Рік тому
@@easterworshipper730 yeah. A movie biography about a real actual dude.
@easterworshipper730
@easterworshipper730 Рік тому
@@ryanmcewen415 LOL. No Is just amovie.
@Hazearil
@Hazearil Рік тому
@@easterworshipper730 Alan Turing is a real person, and while the real events may not have played out *exactly* the same way as in the movie, the movie is still very much based on real events, including how his country betrayed him because he was gay: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing
@Thomas_LB
@Thomas_LB Рік тому
@@easterworshipper730 search up Alan Turing and see for yourself
@christophermills9289
@christophermills9289 Рік тому
This man shortened the war and saved allied lives but his nation treated him as a criminal because he was gay.
@Stewpkiddable
@Stewpkiddable Рік тому
a hero for saving millions of mens lives and a criminal for loving one. remember that the GOP wants the world that way again so get out and vote.
@bagoquarks
@bagoquarks Рік тому
@@Stewpkiddable Post your message at the top, not as a reply to a comment. I'd do it for you but it's yours, not mine.
@utewbd
@utewbd Рік тому
@@Stewpkiddable lmao imagine gaslighting like that to push political propaganda for a cynical, violent establishment you're a victim of
@brunopadovani7347
@brunopadovani7347 Рік тому
@@Stewpkiddable The GOP doesn't want that.
@balazamon
@balazamon Рік тому
@@Stewpkiddable better tell peter thiel and the countless other gay republicans
@SophiaAphrodite
@SophiaAphrodite Рік тому
A following scene is heartbreaking when one of the codebreakers brothers is likely to die due to the attack on his convoy and they have to let it happen to protect their secret.
@ShaamanRyu
@ShaamanRyu Рік тому
And too bad none of it happened in real life
@nicki6355
@nicki6355 Рік тому
@@ShaamanRyu Which part don't you think happened?
@aliendroid8174
@aliendroid8174 Рік тому
​@@ShaamanRyuexcept it did 🤣
@xygdra
@xygdra Рік тому
@@nicki6355 The ensuing dramatic scene, in which Alan reminds Peter and the rest of the team that they have to keep the Germans from learning that they’ve broken Enigma, is entirely invented; Hilton had no such brother, and in fact he began working at Bletchley Park long after Turing’s Bombe had been built.
@shade9272
@shade9272 Рік тому
@@ShaamanRyu Specifically this scene, no, however the premise that they had to pretend they couldn't read their messages and allow some attacks to occur did happen. One example is of a bombing raid on a town, whose name escapes me, resulting in hundreds of civilian deaths could have been prevented but could have cost them the war in the long run if it tipped off Germany to the fact that Enigma had been broken.
@ytfeelslikenorthkorea
@ytfeelslikenorthkorea Місяць тому
6 minutes that summarise the whole movie and I can watch this on repeat to no end.
@raywhitehead730
@raywhitehead730 21 день тому
You do realize this is pure Hollywood. It does Not accurately reflect what really happened. For example the early scientist s who began to crack the Enigma machines were Polish.
@johnhamilton2213
@johnhamilton2213 10 днів тому
@@raywhitehead730 I’m not sure that’s correct. I’ve heard that the Polish captured an Enigma machine and gave it to the British, but it was the Bletchley Park crew that cracked the code. Sadly, we’ll never know because history is being rewritten before our very eyes.
@riparianlife97701
@riparianlife97701 4 дні тому
I doubt they ran around out of breath, but it makes a good movie scene. Also, the message he typed was entirely too short. Sucks to be a reasonable person watching a historical/scientific piece.
@ytfeelslikenorthkorea
@ytfeelslikenorthkorea 3 дні тому
@@raywhitehead730 newsflash - movies NEVER do. It's not a historical documentry. It's a movie.
@ytfeelslikenorthkorea
@ytfeelslikenorthkorea 3 дні тому
@@johnhamilton2213 yep. Poles also worked on their 'manual' algorithms to crack Enigma. Having a computer kinda made it simpler for the British :)
@randbarrett8706
@randbarrett8706 Рік тому
The fact that they have to run back and forth between buildings to do work is amazingly inefficient
@bhakti235
@bhakti235 Рік тому
totes, like why didn't they just use the internet
@OutnBacker
@OutnBacker Рік тому
Unlike today's fat azz geeks, they burned some energy actually moving without the use of Virtual Reality Goggles.
@gokceyildirim8161
@gokceyildirim8161 Рік тому
@@bhakti235 web3 tots solves that
@Dularr
@Dularr Рік тому
Necessity is the mother of invention.
@ZachAttack2U
@ZachAttack2U Рік тому
It is an enigma...
@petervandenbroeck4183
@petervandenbroeck4183 10 днів тому
I think it is time that Alan Tuiring be Knighted posthumously. A remarkable man, a remarkable story.
@amanrob
@amanrob 3 дні тому
You can't because there no such thing as a dead knight.
@chrisbodley8958
@chrisbodley8958 2 дні тому
​@@amanrobthis is quite the dumbest comment ever. There are tons of dead knights
@amanrob
@amanrob 2 дні тому
@@chrisbodley8958 Before you call something dumb, you should do your research. You lose your knighthood at death. It’s a living honour only. Therefore, you have dead former knights, but not dead knights. This was the exact reason why they couldn’t strip Jimmy Savile. It was a moot point, because he had already lost it at death.
@chrisbodley8958
@chrisbodley8958 2 дні тому
@@amanrob that is quite dumb
@pulsefang666
@pulsefang666 9 місяців тому
Imagine your own country hating you after your brilliant mind saved them, and then then taking decades to admit they were wrong.
@JohnSmith-pl2bk
@JohnSmith-pl2bk 29 днів тому
Don't forget all the spies within British Intelligence services operating against the UK.... in the interests of their own countries. The smoke and mirrors continues to this day..
@adrianlloyd6403
@adrianlloyd6403 19 днів тому
It neatly sums up how the establishment operates and the inbuilt flaws and failings of our societal structure.The Cambridge spies betrayed our country and were allowed to escape in some cases and hide in plain sight like Anthony Blunt for many years, without prosecution, because of who they were and their connections in society. Under the protection of a government, and the state secret service, who wanted to avoid embarrassing relevations about what these revolting creeps had been up to, rather than doing the morally and ethically right thing,these traitors got away.When you see how these individuals were treated, in comparison to Turing, then you wonder what priorities as a state the UK truly has at times.
@paultruesdale7680
@paultruesdale7680 16 днів тому
Not the whole country. It was a state secret. Nobody knew what he had done.
@JohnSmith-pl2bk
@JohnSmith-pl2bk 16 днів тому
Dude, Where's my previous comment?
@cvn6555
@cvn6555 9 днів тому
There were, to be fair, many brilliant minds that saved them and many more brave men that did, as well. Many of them paid with eyes, arms, legs and lives. Yes, it was terrible what happened to Turing but it was a different time. He had a high security clearance and homosexuality was often used to blackmail men into betraying their country.
@betaomega04
@betaomega04 11 місяців тому
What makes this scene so brilliant isn't that come people cracked a code, it's the gravity of what breaking Enigma meant: the lives that will be saved, the intelligence, the ability to make strategic decisions, and ultimately the insight to winning the war.
@wickedwitchoftheeast88
@wickedwitchoftheeast88 Місяць тому
Exactly! Especially since it was believed impossible to break Enigma
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx Місяць тому
Strategic decisions were being made regardless of intelligence - they were just taking losses that they could not easily prevent, and missing opportunities to attack that were literally right under their noses at times. Strategy is always applied in (sensible) warfare - Intelligence just allows it to be refined further. Making protecting your assets and destroying the enemies assets more efficient - minimizing loss of life to your own troops and non combatant citizens.
@traybern
@traybern Місяць тому
COME people?? You IDIOT!!!!
@traybern
@traybern Місяць тому
@@wickedwitchoftheeast88. Everything is impossible, until it’s NOT.
@amanrob
@amanrob 3 дні тому
The Poles had already cracked it before turing
@javagirl
@javagirl Місяць тому
This scene never gets old. BC deserved the Oscar for his performance.
@snyggmikael
@snyggmikael Місяць тому
its like the scene from a beautiful mind, kind of a copy, but its fitting so its definitely getting a pass
@nathanwilliams2152
@nathanwilliams2152 Місяць тому
@@snyggmikael- that was an amazing film. Still Russell Crowe’s best in my opinion
@cvn6555
@cvn6555 9 днів тому
What a phenomenal actor.
@thenewlc
@thenewlc Рік тому
It’s crazy how this looks so basic in hindsight, but it’s actually a genius breakthrough. He literally invented a new way of thinking and applying logic. And they killed him for wanting to be with another dude. Blows my mind.
@Omaricon
@Omaricon 10 місяців тому
They didn't kill him, they did something much worse, they sterilised him and treated him as if he was inhuman.
@vjreimedia
@vjreimedia 10 місяців тому
All sort of people gets roasted all the time every day. I am sure it was not for being gay at all, that was the excuse. It was jealousy, for sure people with power and other interest who saw him as a threat for their businesses.
@rockpopjazz
@rockpopjazz 10 місяців тому
@@vjreimedia oh you are sure it wasn't homofobia? and how did you reach that conclusion? very curious
@vjreimedia
@vjreimedia 10 місяців тому
@@rockpopjazz No one cares about gay people, that is a freak show LGTBQ retards came out lately out of narcissism, and victimization. Losers with no skills, no friends trying to call the attention and when they realize that saying "I am gay" people started to look at then, is when they felt for the first time they were someone, after that play victims and the drama followed. There have been tons of gay people everywhere, every actor, model, even Boy George! Right Said Fred. Freddy Mercury! You may say "the nazis killed gay people, yes, they killed jews, latinos, blacks, anybody. Saying that this man died because he was gay only just shows the diarrhea people have for a brain. A lot of the media just targets the ignorant and naive of society like yourself sadly. Controversy sells.
@kylancook3477
@kylancook3477 10 місяців тому
​@GurrokHS because if we have learned anything in the last 8 years, it's that the pushed narrative is almost never what has actually happened
@michaelreece2966
@michaelreece2966 Рік тому
Can you even imagine being there when they cracked the first message? And what I didn’t realize was that they built as many as 50 of these machines and they were called bombs. Christopher is a bit more palatable in terms of making the movie. And the cast is brilliant. I’m sometimes truly amazed at how casting directors can sometimes put together the perfect cast.
@malcomdryer5001
@malcomdryer5001 11 місяців тому
True, however in real life, Turing named his machine 'Victory'... not "Christopher."
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx Місяць тому
The anglicized word was Bombe. After the original 1938 Polish specialised code breaking machine called "bomba kryptologiczna" or cryptologic bomb. Oh ye, that is a point too - Turing did not come up with a mechanical solution to Enigma on his own, it was an evolution of this earlier Polish concept but electrified, rather than the hand cranked original. Had electrification not occurred only decades earlier the machine would likely not have been viable for mass decoding efforts.
@kovesp1
@kovesp1 Місяць тому
Yes. It happened in Warsaw in the mid-thirties. Without those basic insights of Rejewski, Zygalski and Różycki into the way all Enigma machines worked and which led to the full break of the 3 wheel Enigma, Turing and company would have not achieved even the partial break (they never had a full break) into the later more complex Enigma machines.
@penandroll9287
@penandroll9287 Місяць тому
What an incredible and remarkably unique mind this man had...the world cannot thank him enough for what he did for us nor apologize enough for what they did to him.
@azmainyakinsrizon5671
@azmainyakinsrizon5671 Рік тому
Many people have no idea about the intelligence of Alan M. Turing. Even during his last breathe, he was working on computational biology. That means he could've proposed a machine that is capable of telling you if a mutation is possible in polynomial time or not. You wouldbve been able to predict the behaviour of organisms and produce medicones in such manners. Turing machine was meant to do a lot. It was converted into the very first electrical computer. Just imagine what would it become if he could've shared all his mathematical proofs. As a computer science graduate, I understand his immense contribution. He paved the way of Internet in which you're writing comments, watching this video. I'm talking about Finite Automata, you may have never heard this term. In his name, every year Turing award is awarded which is called the Nobel of Computer Science. It's worth 10 million USD. I admire him and his intelligence. It gives me motivation to invent, to continue academic research, to carry humanity forward with real-life solutions. What a man he was!
@KennyLamTravel
@KennyLamTravel Рік тому
What a great lost for mankind the day he died.
@amandabolden3172
@amandabolden3172 Рік тому
Thank you for sharing!
@sagadegeminis1282
@sagadegeminis1282 Рік тому
Amen! 🙏🏻
@ericwilson6994
@ericwilson6994 Рік тому
I'm going to kill Hitler --> Lucifer, the first chance I get. Your ghost. 000. Take that toothpick out. I'm 9, upside down, inside out, and one minute ahead of time. overt ops Stauffenberg DeliciosoCognito
@TheFox6840
@TheFox6840 9 місяців тому
The only thing about this movie that really isn't truthful is that the breaking of Enigma has been a real team effort, and not just one guy against all odds. This is not to be unfair in regards to Turing's genius, which was absolutely remarkable, but to be fair with all the others.
@ICarus-eu3jv
@ICarus-eu3jv 10 днів тому
In 1932, Polish mathematician Marian Rejewski cracked the code of the first generation of the Enigma Machine. edit: A Polish postal worker contacted his superiors after a German diplomat was unusually animated about an expected package late Friday near closing. Polish officials dismantled the package and photographed every piece over the weekend, then reassembled the Enigma Machine, which allowed Marian Rejewski the opportunity to decipher its code. It's speculation whether Poland shared this information with the Allies and Alan Turing.
@bigglesharrumpher4139
@bigglesharrumpher4139 6 днів тому
The Poles did superlative things in WW2, and - ended the Cold War via the Gdansk Shipyard.
@Im.Yer.Huckleberry
@Im.Yer.Huckleberry 6 днів тому
Polish never get enough credit for their accomplishments.
@sba8710
@sba8710 5 днів тому
Absolutely. Their work was invaluable.
@MrJackWorse
@MrJackWorse Рік тому
To know what people like Turing did for the world and what the world did to them in return. It haunts me sometimes.
@G-regTaylor
@G-regTaylor Місяць тому
he volunteered to have hormone therapy (chemical castration) instead of going to prison. what haunts you about that?
@veniulem5676
@veniulem5676 Місяць тому
@@G-regTaylor bro got sent to prison for winning the war
@G-regTaylor
@G-regTaylor Місяць тому
@@veniulem5676 what on earth are you talking about
@veniulem5676
@veniulem5676 Місяць тому
​@@G-regTaylor the person who cracked the hardest and most important code at the time and basically won us the war had a choice to either go to jail or take hormones, idk whats more fucked up, that or the fact you dont understand.
@G-regTaylor
@G-regTaylor Місяць тому
@@veniulem5676 he was arrested in 1952. Long after the war was over, for homosexuality which was illegal at the time.
@fordprefect4345
@fordprefect4345 12 днів тому
Don't get your history from films. Marian Rejewski broke the Enigma code. Thanks to the achievements of cryptologists and possession of the commercial machine and documents provided by French intelligence, Poles started work on building a copy of the Enigma soon after. To put that into perspective, on 30 January 1933, one month after the code was broken, Hitler became chancellor of Germany. With the second world war looming, Poles had to share their knowledge about the Enigma with British and French colleagues. During a meeting in Pyry, near Warsaw, in July 1939, Rejewski and his colleagues demonstrated how to crack the machine and gave each allied side a replica. This allowed Alan Turing to continue their work at Bletchley Park.
@timothysommerladenneagram
@timothysommerladenneagram День тому
Thank you 😃!
@im7254
@im7254 Місяць тому
Allan I wish we could tell you how much we respect you nearly a hundred years later. You were a hero, you were amazing
@Nighthawke70
@Nighthawke70 Рік тому
Turing's work enabled the Bombe systems to break more Enigma wheels than before this breakthrough. He also initiated UK/US relationships to a new level of understanding and cooperation in cryptosystems. This gave both sides massive breakthroughs in decoding all the Axis countries inlcuding the legendary Japanese Purple encrypts. This level of cooperation enabled breaking the 4 wheel Enigma systems down from several hours to about 50 minutes. The large number of Navy Bombe's (121 to be exact) made it vastly easier for local cryptos to break wheels and decrypt messages for it was locally available, instead of traveling 20-50 miles to another location to access one.
@gedscouserable
@gedscouserable Місяць тому
And then the USA betrayed the UK over the 'tube alloys' project. Backstabbing traitors.
@Bootmahoy88
@Bootmahoy88 Рік тому
Turing was an extraordinary thinker, a problem solver, and we have tons to thank him for, but this scene brilliantly shows how teamwork was the true hero of Hut 8, Bletchley Park.
@percemiettinen9207
@percemiettinen9207 23 дні тому
I personally would give all credit to Turing, because he was the one they later punished, for being something they weren't.
@jasonking6892
@jasonking6892 16 днів тому
Alan Turig and his colleagues saved so many lives in WW2 Britain 🇬🇧at its Best👍
@jobimzapico44
@jobimzapico44 Рік тому
The sheer magnitude of intellect of some people in this world is truly incredible. Blows me away
@rockpadstudios
@rockpadstudios Місяць тому
yeah as I age I'm truly impressed at the drive some people have. They studying from dusk to dawn every single day and many never see a breakthrough like this.
@No_Fuse8771
@No_Fuse8771 Місяць тому
The sheer magnitude of stupidity of some people in this world is truly astounding, blows me away. I just don't know why stupid people impress me. Maybe it's because they made it that far in life.... It's like a train wreak, I can't just walk away. This is not directed at anyone in this thread, it was a great post, and it inspired me to say this.
@turolretar
@turolretar Місяць тому
@@No_Fuse8771 are talking about gay people? Cause they are not stupid, let me tell you buddy. Listen here buddy
@No_Fuse8771
@No_Fuse8771 Місяць тому
@@turolretar Actually, that does not matter to me. Anyone who fits the bill. Ignorance is one thing. Stupidity is on another level. If you don't know what people are talking about, why open your mouth? BTW, that's not directed at you, just, other people here in the comments on this video. Not this thread. @turolretar I liked your post, great sarcasm. Leaving the period off was the chef kiss.
@magna4100
@magna4100 23 дні тому
How does the "blows me away" manifest?
@johnbiggscr
@johnbiggscr 8 місяців тому
The mind required to design a machine like that. It’s phenomenal.
@kjoseph8323
@kjoseph8323 Місяць тому
To walk such a delicate balance of having full knowledge of the messages and yet restraining from any perceptual intervention so as to not give away the advantage.
@z1az285
@z1az285 Рік тому
What a great film and what a brilliant man Turning was , along with the rest of his team. This was a stunning scene
@sixoclock4436
@sixoclock4436 Рік тому
why did this put such a genuine smile in my face?
@eyesforthewise
@eyesforthewise Рік тому
Because you're easily mislead
@sixoclock4436
@sixoclock4436 Рік тому
@@eyesforthewise hahahahahaha
@BizVlogs
@BizVlogs Рік тому
Because someone ended a whole war with wit
@derbyjr
@derbyjr Рік тому
Because this saved your way of life
@anameyoucantremember
@anameyoucantremember Рік тому
@@eyesforthewise Tell me more
@BuffaloC305
@BuffaloC305 Рік тому
Such a hard film to tolerate because of the ending. Such a wonderful film to enjoy because of everything else.
@plrt6794
@plrt6794 Рік тому
And we haven’t learned the lesson shown at the end to this day
@OLDUSAFMedic
@OLDUSAFMedic 8 місяців тому
hanks for the great quality upload. This was a great part in the film.
@simon1italy
@simon1italy Місяць тому
My secret dream would be to one day experience what those guys that night felt after they deciphered Enigma. Knowing that you are living a moment in your life that will be regarded as one of the most crucial pivot point in human history, something that people would be talking about hundreds of years later. The feeling of having accomplished something hard, so hard that no one else on the planet could reach before that moment. I know that Turing and his team were not the first not the only, but that was what they experienced that night. It gives me chills to simply think about it.
@turolretar
@turolretar Місяць тому
It’s not for everyone
@magna4100
@magna4100 23 дні тому
You can THINK?
@stephethomas
@stephethomas 18 днів тому
elation, in that moment of discovery, everything changes - the world was saved by an idea - it is so mind blowing and you put it very well - it gives me chills too
@roejohntiolengco3938
@roejohntiolengco3938 19 днів тому
As an engineer this give me goosebumps every time.
@georice81
@georice81 16 днів тому
Me too!
@customdioramics7961
@customdioramics7961 Рік тому
Great movie, and a brilliant actor.
@Wojciech_Chmielewski
@Wojciech_Chmielewski Місяць тому
Lewacka propaganda.
@AndyHoward
@AndyHoward 10 місяців тому
This scene is accurate. They were told to use 5 random letters at the start of each message, but humans being humans they would use letters they were comfortable with like GF/BF names o HIT LE or HEILH over and over again.
@lohphat
@lohphat 9 місяців тому
The most common start word was actually W E T T E R B E R I C H T (weather report)
@Tasarran
@Tasarran 9 місяців тому
The same way we use the same password over and over...?
@druidriley3163
@druidriley3163 9 місяців тому
@@Tasarran Exactly the same.
@jamesbutler8821
@jamesbutler8821 8 місяців тому
You can always count on some overworked, underpaid, no longer giving a damn flunkie somewhere ruining even the most foolproof system out of spite or laziness. I remember someone once asking me if I was concerned about the NSA and Google listening to everything and I said no, because there arent enough engaged eyes and hands to do anything with it
@fabreasy304
@fabreasy304 10 місяців тому
I love this movie. And I love Alan Turings story. Brilliant man.
@wacawaka1802
@wacawaka1802 3 місяці тому
Actually someone else solved it and Alan failed to make the machine. It was only after we basically stole the books for him that he could and at that point anyone could. It was a big project and it would be better to tell Germans that we have someone who can so we lied. ThTs why the mission stealing it wasn’t honored until 2017. You fell for propaganda
@brucebanner2222
@brucebanner2222 5 місяців тому
In my top five movies of all time. Benedict is a great actor. Thanks Alan Turin for your contribution to end WWll. I wish Alan Turin had lived a long life.
@curtisdaniel9294
@curtisdaniel9294 Місяць тому
A personal favorite film, saw it twice in the theater and twice on my digital copy.
@jhfdhgvnbjm75
@jhfdhgvnbjm75 Місяць тому
For those singing Alan's praises, he didn't do it alone, never mentioned in this film is Tommy Flowers, an engineer at Bletchley (originally from the GPO) who had to actually build colossus, it was only possible because he had been working on automated operator machines before the war and so could turn theoretical ideas into valves and rotor arms, after the war he had such great ideas which would have worked, but because of the OSA could never explain his ideas would work because he could never explain about colossus.
@adambarys1685
@adambarys1685 Місяць тому
he diddn't do it at all. Enigma was broken by polish mathematicians. Turing and squad only solved later versions of it, but they had most important work already done
@ayltonjamieson9026
@ayltonjamieson9026 Місяць тому
Enigma and the Poles had nothing to do with Colossus which dealt with a far more complicated machine and code. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing
@adambarys1685
@adambarys1685 Місяць тому
@@ayltonjamieson9026 Poland had given enigma machine to british few days before start of war. Without that, british would have nothing to work on.
@sernoddicusthegallant6986
@sernoddicusthegallant6986 29 днів тому
@@adambarys1685 The polish work would have been worthless if not for the British, the British work would have been worthless if not for the polish. But theres always some idiot in the comments trying to turn it into a competition baselessly claiming who did the "most important work"
@adambarys1685
@adambarys1685 29 днів тому
@@sernoddicusthegallant6986 that's True. Both parties were necessary. But writing like single person broke enigma is laughable
@rishiranjan9947
@rishiranjan9947 Рік тому
5:47 is one of the great moments of the film...it shows that both Hugh and Alan are not that close but this tym...Hugh realises how brilliant Alan was and his mutual respect towards him increased exponentially...great acting by both without saying any words.
@matasa7463
@matasa7463 Рік тому
I wonder what Dr. Turing would say if he were to visit a chip fab today? The advances we've made since those days must look like pure magic. They made wires and drums think, but we now have magic thinking rocks.
@starfishsystems
@starfishsystems Рік тому
Yep. The early wire recorders used bicycle wheels, for example. Not that this was inappropriate - indeed it was very inventive, in a garden shed kind of way - but it illustrates the terrible urgency of the task.
@MrNicoJac
@MrNicoJac Рік тому
He'd probably spot multiple inefficiencies, hahahaha
@lelonfurr1200
@lelonfurr1200 Рік тому
he would be lake jon. winters in a game of pool lit trans i ve done my thing go and do better
@toddkes5890
@toddkes5890 Рік тому
Not just the chip fab, imagine seeing all the programs we do with those chips. Spelling/grammar checking, online translation, cloud computing, downloadable programs, automatic data backups, and the ChatGPT expert system are all examples of building on his idea of hardware and software being two separate parts.
@orionred2489
@orionred2489 9 місяців тому
In Japan!
@seejayjames
@seejayjames Місяць тому
I've watched this segment probably 100 times. Gives me chills every time, knowing that this moment literally changed history and saved millions of lives. The music fits perfectly too. Brilliant film!
@warrensamuels895
@warrensamuels895 28 днів тому
I agree 👍
@ianfisher7360
@ianfisher7360 4 дні тому
I've watched it multiple times also. Trying to catch his thoughts process.
@josephmort4039
@josephmort4039 10 місяців тому
I heard that, after WW2, the Allies told some of the German command that was still alive that we had broken Enigma. They didn't believe us until all this work was de-classified.
@SoldierMed68W
@SoldierMed68W Рік тому
I’ve seen this movie 100 times, and I don’t know why, but every time it gets to “PETER BLOODY HILTON!” I always crack up laughing
@sunset1394
@sunset1394 Рік тому
These are the men that lead us to a world with internet,such glorious people
@SH4GN457Y
@SH4GN457Y Рік тому
I still get chills watching this scene
@nicholasway7052
@nicholasway7052 7 днів тому
Brilliant film, if you can get over to Bletchley Park, get there early and take a picnic, beautiful grounds to sit in, and so much to see read, and do.
@CasioAns
@CasioAns Рік тому
i loved this scene and was actually looking for it and lo and behold the youtube algorithm reads my mind for the five millionth time
@alexius23
@alexius23 Рік тому
Would liked a scene where the Team would have reveal their discovery to the crusty Generals
@bhgtree
@bhgtree Місяць тому
Benedict Cumberbatch played Alan Turing perfectly in this movie and this scene is just so enjoyable and was done so well by all the cast.
@iamnormal8648
@iamnormal8648 Місяць тому
I will never get tired of enjoying this part.
@fartamplifer
@fartamplifer Місяць тому
Here is your reminder that Turing's work was based on the early work by Polish codebreakers who succeeded in breaking the early Enigma codes and passed all their work onto Britain once the Germans and Russians invaded including teaching Turing how to build machines that simulated the Enigma machines.
@SuperRobertoClemente
@SuperRobertoClemente Місяць тому
Here's your reminder that you should reconsider that username.
@sigurdkaputnik7022
@sigurdkaputnik7022 Місяць тому
That's right. No disrespect to Mr. Turing, he was a genius. But without the polish groundwork, he would have never achieved the codebreaking. He was actually surprised,how far his polish colleagues had already advanced in decryption, when they handed their material over to the British. And how did his country thank him? With chemical castration. The Brits are funny but idiots.
@Andrew-og7li
@Andrew-og7li Місяць тому
@@SuperRobertoClemente ikr? dingus mispelled amplifier.
@sparkyinsertnamehere6673
@sparkyinsertnamehere6673 Місяць тому
Here is your reminder that the Enigma code of the later war years was an order of magnitude more difficult to break than the Enigma code of 1939.
@clrlmiller
@clrlmiller Місяць тому
The achievement of Alan Turing's work was the --> speed ---> at which the Enigma codes could be broken. Yes, other code breaker teams (including the Polish) had had success after considerable effort and time. But knowing enemy communications weeks or even months afterwards was of little use. The issue, as shown in the film was the enigma code changed daily and all the work over the past 23 hours, 59 minutes was now useless and had to be started all over again. Turing's 'Christopher' aka 'The Bombe' could break down Enigma's encryption in minutes and provide access to German communications in almost real time.
@driftwolf
@driftwolf Рік тому
Unfortunate that, yet again, Holllywood doesn't mention "others" who helped. Like the Poles who determined the solution was mathematical, not linguistic. Turing was a key figure, but so were Jerzy Rozycki, Henryk Zygalski, and Marian Rejewski. Amongst others.
@truckeronroad_com
@truckeronroad_com Рік тому
"Never in the history of wars has so much been owed by so many to so few" - this is the most famous phrase uttered during World War II by the Prime Minister of Great Britain Winston Churchill's British on August 20, 1940. In this way he honored the airmen of the British RAF (Royal Air Force), who on the 13th day repulsed the massive attack of the German air force (Luftwaffe) on Great Britain. This attack went down in history as the Battle of Britain. These words were said primarily to commemorate the participation of Polish and Czech airmen in this fight. The symbol of their brotherhood in arms is the 303 Squadron (look on Google "303 Repinski Transport Squadron). As for the Enigma... The first Polish copy of the military version of "Enigma" was built in the "Ava" factory in Warsaw in 1933. The process of putting the elements together took place in Pyry near Warsaw. Since then, Poles could read German military correspondence. For almost seven years, Polish intelligence transmitted to the French and British German military telegrams, obtained thanks to the work of the Polish Cipher Bureau. However, the method of obtaining the information has not been disclosed. Only in 1939, as a result of deteriorating Polish-German relations, the management of the Cipher Bureau decided to reveal to the allies the secret of the work of Polish intelligence services. For this purpose, in the spring of 1939, a meeting of Polish, English and French cryptological services was organized in Pyry. In addition to a copy of the Polish "Enigma", they received mathematical assumptions regarding the methods of operating the machine. In 1940, the British created their own center where German messages were read using the "Enigma". This greatly facilitated the actions of the local land forces, while until 1942 the British had a huge problem with the naval army. It was only thanks to the capture of the German submarine U-110 and four meteorological ships with "Enigma" encryption machines and code books on board that the British managed to break the navy's most difficult code. Thanks to the acquired ability to read German military reports, the British began to regain control of the sea. It was Poles who created the basis for decryption, but the English for many years tried to appropriate this achievement for themselves. According to Witold Głębowicz, this is partly due to the publications that appeared after World War II. Many of their authors knew that the British had a system for reading the "Enigma" ciphers, but they did not know the origin of this system and how it was broken. The first information indicating that Poles contributed to the deciphering of the "Enigma" appeared in the early 1970s. However, the official confirmation by the British of the role of the Poles in breaking the "Enigma" code took place only after Poland's accession to NATO in 1999.
@pokerphil1st
@pokerphil1st 3 дні тому
I've watched this clip hundreds of times.
@jonnyharding3646
@jonnyharding3646 2 місяці тому
Goosebumps. Every. Single. Time.
@MikMoen
@MikMoen Рік тому
He's a Hero and they destroyed his life cause he likes Men.
@kyleyung4145
@kyleyung4145 Рік тому
they destroyed his life because the goal was accomplished, once Europe was destroyed they had no reason to keep him around.
@ChairmanMeow1
@ChairmanMeow1 Рік тому
is that true? I never heard anything about that
@plastefuchs666
@plastefuchs666 Рік тому
@@ChairmanMeow1 Yes. "Turing was prosecuted in 1952 for homosexual acts. He accepted hormone treatment with DES, a procedure commonly referred to as chemical castration, as an alternative to prison. Turing died on 7 June 1954, 16 days before his 42nd birthday, from cyanide poisoning. An inquest determined his death as a suicide, but it has been noted that the known evidence is also consistent with accidental poisoning. "
@dennisking4589
@dennisking4589 Рік тому
It was illegal to act on those impulses at the time....criminal, right or wrong, is criminal.
@plastefuchs666
@plastefuchs666 Рік тому
@@dennisking4589 Ah yes, just following orders my dear old chap.
@shake307
@shake307 Рік тому
I finally watched this movie a week ago. Bloody brilliant and tragic. This movie made me feel ashamed. I didn't even do anything and am not a homophobe, but damn did this movie hurt
@thomaschristopherwhite9043
@thomaschristopherwhite9043 Рік тому
Yeah. Alan saved the world and we failed him.
@amandabolden3172
@amandabolden3172 Рік тому
Facts. I usually don’t watch dramas like these but I watched with my mom (she loves them) and we were sobbing at the end and in the scene after with the guys brother on the ship.
@easterworshipper730
@easterworshipper730 Рік тому
Average propagada consumer.
@shake307
@shake307 Рік тому
@@easterworshipper730 is this an insult?
@easterworshipper730
@easterworshipper730 Рік тому
@@shake307 not if you are ok consuming propaganda.
@grewald123
@grewald123 3 дні тому
The film focuses on Alan but some of the work was done other members of the Bletchley Park team. If you read Alan Turing's biography you will find he published a paper in 1932 that describes his idea of a 'thinking machine' you would recognise the outline of a modern PC. Awesome genius, even knowing how he did it, it is still difficult to get my brain round how he did it, and he did it from a blank canvas.
@MarcSiv
@MarcSiv 12 днів тому
There may never be another genius like Alan Turing.
@pirobot668beta
@pirobot668beta Рік тому
Turing was able to use reaction-diffusion equations to duplicate the 'double-slit' experiment. Interference patterns, evidence of 'wave nature', is a natural consequence of organized systems diffusing through each other over distance and time.
@robertzinker7781
@robertzinker7781 Рік тому
Ya, that's what I was gonna say.
@skiwake38
@skiwake38 Місяць тому
What are you, the Offensive Coordinator at MIT football?
@memyselfandi9365
@memyselfandi9365 Місяць тому
It was the Polish that cracked the enigma code machine, the English created the Colossus at Bleichly park that accelerated the process...
@SOMEONE-ME
@SOMEONE-ME 26 днів тому
Exactly. "In December 1932 it was "broken" by mathematician Marian Rejewski at the Polish General Staff's Cipher Bureau, using mathematical permutation group theory combined with French-supplied intelligence material obtained from a German spy." Turing "computerisation" allowed to decrypt messages "on time", so Enigma was defeated which most likely saved millions of people.
@MichaelThomas-be7gq
@MichaelThomas-be7gq 13 днів тому
The Polish broke the 3-rotor code. The Wehrmacht and Kriegsmarine used 4 rotors. Then the Germans replaced 4-rotor Enigma for Lorenz, that was what Colossus was for, and that was broken by Bill Tutte. It was Turing who showed them a) how to break codes, b) how to use machines, and c) how to use computers. This is why Turing is a fully paid-up genius.
@aratosm
@aratosm 3 дні тому
So you're saying this is a propaganda film that rewrites history? @@MichaelThomas-be7gq
@lcf34
@lcf34 Місяць тому
If you ever are in London area, Bletchley Park visit is a MUST DO. There are fast, frequent direct trains to there and back. It is a beautiful visit to make.
@nicbentulan
@nicbentulan Місяць тому
1 decade ago. Good times. Good times.
@Other3.5
@Other3.5 Рік тому
Alan Turing was a genius. But this clip speaks also to another issue. Why didn't those trying to break the code talk to those who transcribed the intercepted messages? Imagine if the woman who told Turing about the repeated letters actually was asked for her input early on. She even says that her teammates all have a feel for their counterparts' patterns.
@PrograError
@PrograError Рік тому
It's something about compartmentalization, there's a reason for information not known everywhere in the military but as a need to know. but this case comes up in a bar gossip between fellow Bletchley Park-ies. also captain america winter soldier where SHIELD have has their "Level" classification rating on objects and information and reports.
@johnsimth6587
@johnsimth6587 11 місяців тому
@@PrograError One of the more accurate parts of the film, someone slipping something they shouldn't say while drinking at a "base" bar heh.
@stephenkenney8290
@stephenkenney8290 10 місяців тому
All true and most likely the case, but like many technological breakthroughs in history it could also be a matter of the solution being so simple no one would have considered it because it's so simple.
@thedisneynerd7866
@thedisneynerd7866 Рік тому
I just watched this movie for the first time just a couple days ago and i loved it! And just to be clear. I knew nothing about Alan Turing until i watched this film.
@skiwake38
@skiwake38 Місяць тому
No apology necessary.
@pauljohnson8847
@pauljohnson8847 Місяць тому
I completely adore this film. I'm sure the accuracy is about 10% but this ensemble cast is so amazing. One of the best two hours I've ever spent in the dark. Cumberbatch is mesmerizing in this role.
@purplemonkeyelephant
@purplemonkeyelephant Місяць тому
Yeah, if you actually learn about what they did at Bletchley Park you realise this whole film is complete fiction, not even remotely close to reality. Which is a shame because the true story is fascinating. I never understand why film-makers do that
@TheHonours16
@TheHonours16 18 годин тому
one of the best films going - all round fantastic. What they did to Turing after the War was a crime against humanity.
@DougHinVA
@DougHinVA Рік тому
He was a real hero and very smart
@johnstamos4186
@johnstamos4186 Рік тому
Too bad he was a pillow biter...that cost him dearly unfortunately
@sulmedici
@sulmedici Рік тому
Don;t say this in poland or to a polish.
@ShaamanRyu
@ShaamanRyu Рік тому
Yea, and unlike in the movie, the real Alan Turing was very easy to get along with and told jokes. He wasn’t some weird 40’s British version of Sheldon Cooper
@antiabrahamicreligion
@antiabrahamicreligion Рік тому
@@sulmedici he also invented turing machine stfy
@skiwake38
@skiwake38 Місяць тому
@@sulmedici A "polish" is a sausage.
@frozenlake1215
@frozenlake1215 Рік тому
Terribly exciting bit of cinema, old chap
@Nimzo1
@Nimzo1 17 днів тому
Jolly good show indeed, old sport
@jeynes14
@jeynes14 4 дні тому
Thanking the team for our freedom
@AndyStoker-mv9ne
@AndyStoker-mv9ne 14 днів тому
Love the nicely spoken chap with the brown jacket in the back .... he doesn't know quite what's happening but he knows something is ... he wasn't allowed to write his memoirs - but gently let it be known that he worked with Turing on that tremendous night.
@stevemoyer2273
@stevemoyer2273 Рік тому
The British government did not publicly admit the presence of Enigma and the code breakers unit the 1970s.
@christopherharmon2433
@christopherharmon2433 Рік тому
And then only because a book about Bletchley and the breaking of Enigma called 'The Ultra Secret' had been published.
@villa50bis
@villa50bis Рік тому
Because post war they presented the enigma machines as uncrackable marvels to all the allies and were thus armed for future espionage.
@PrograError
@PrograError Рік тому
well... the only reason was they had already created deeper and harder cryptos and Enigma is literally outdated tech... from the 30s
@peanuts2105
@peanuts2105 Місяць тому
It's just standard operating procedure that is binded by the official secrets act. I know people to this day who are bound by this act because they worked on the Harrier jump jet! It is what it is
@joeleonard9965
@joeleonard9965 Рік тому
The best part about the U.S. encryption during WW2 is that they relied on Native Americans, who the axis could never get even close to decyphering since there was nothing to learn from.
@Gromit801
@Gromit801 Рік тому
Only in a few battles, and by radio.
@nedames3328
@nedames3328 Рік тому
Navaho Code Talkers. Much respect.
@NotMykl
@NotMykl Рік тому
@@nedames3328 What Indian tribes were code talkers? Other branches of the military recruited Native Americans from the Assiniboine, Cherokee, Cheyenne, Chippewa, Choctaw, Comanche, Cree, Crow, Hopi, Kiowa, Menominee, Meskwaki, Mississauga, Muscogee, Osage, Pawnee, Sac and Fox, Seminole and Sioux tribes to create similar military codes based on their own languages. So many tribal languages were used yet not many have been recognized for their contributions.
@amydavidoff4900
@amydavidoff4900 23 дні тому
@@nedames3328 My high school Latin teacher was one of the people who worked with the Navajo on developing the code. This didn't come out until years later when all this was declassified, but hats off to Mrs Breegle!
@griltig
@griltig Місяць тому
One of the greatest to have ever lived.
@mycroft16
@mycroft16 28 днів тому
Enigma was a masterpiece of engineering and cryptography. There are detailed animated videos of how it worked and it was intense as hell. To reverse engineer a code that shifts registers the way Enigma did is nothing short of pure genius. Also, let's not forget the crew of the HMS Bulldog who captured the Enigma machine and code books from U-110. Another amazing feat of work, especially as they would have been an absolute priority to destroy for the crew.
@magna4100
@magna4100 22 дні тому
According to Hollywood it was the Americans wot dan it.
@bhakti235
@bhakti235 Рік тому
that's quite a feat, making maths and logic so damn dramatic
@eyesforthewise
@eyesforthewise Рік тому
Numbers are far more important than sheep know
@andmos1001
@andmos1001 Рік тому
The truth is actually more dramatic and important as the breaking of enigma shorten the war by 2 years
@Tulane_Gargoyle
@Tulane_Gargoyle Рік тому
3:51- a deafening silence.
@238media
@238media 8 місяців тому
Love this!
@ollieox9181
@ollieox9181 Місяць тому
Clever little movie. Loved this scene. Sad what happened to Turing.
@RoninTF2011
@RoninTF2011 Місяць тому
A shame how his country betrayed him after the war!!!
@nicolasreyes2190
@nicolasreyes2190 Рік тому
What I don't like about this great scene is that this didn't happen at all. Looking for commonly used words or phrases is an extremely basic tactic when trying to break a coding system and Alan Turing and everyone working on Enigma already knew this from the very start. Looking for "hail Hitler" in the messages is the very first thing they did.
@NotMykl
@NotMykl Рік тому
Heil Hitler not hail, H.e.i.l.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 10 місяців тому
But it wasn't until they searched for Heil Hitler that they got a match.
@nicolasreyes2190
@nicolasreyes2190 10 місяців тому
@@stargazer7644 Yes, but the entire scene makes you think that looking for "Hail Hitler" was the great idea that solved the problem. But it wasn't. Again, this is a common tactic known by cryptographers since the times of the Roman Empire. Alan Turing and anyone working with him would know this already before they were even hired to crack Enigma. The movie does a great job of using a fictitious breakthrough that the public can understand. The actual brilliant ideas that Turing had to solve this problem are the ideas behind the design of the machine which would be too complex to try to depict in the movie.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 10 місяців тому
@@nicolasreyes2190 It's kind of funny, you're annoyed by screenwriters dumbing down a complex topic to explain it in a 2 hour movie that the average person might enjoy. I'm annoyed by you doing exactly the same thing by assuming you need to dumb down an explanation to me about how cryptography works and telling me what nearly every movie based on a real subject has commonly done.
@nicolasreyes2190
@nicolasreyes2190 10 місяців тому
@@stargazer7644 Haha good point! In my defense though, your first response really looked like you didn't get my original comment. But you're right and I know I'm wrong for being annoyed by such detail in the plot. The screenwriters know what they are doing and they found a great resource to add a breakthrough moment that fits the story and adds a dramatic "victory" moment. But it's one of those things, its just slightly annoying when movies inaccurately depict stuff that you're passionate about. But it's sometimes necessary or justified. I also enjoyed the movie overall. Cheers!
@pvbferreira
@pvbferreira 9 днів тому
Enigma, I've come to bargain!
@roconnor01
@roconnor01 21 день тому
Tommy Flowers deserves a mention also, he worked at the Post Office’s research laboratories in Dollis Hill in northwest London, where he demonstrated how Alan Turning’s computations could be mechanised by a programmable computer.
@adamb89
@adamb89 9 місяців тому
Best part about analog systems is if some idiot trips over a power cord like right at the end of this scene, they haven't lost anything.
@spacecadet35
@spacecadet35 Місяць тому
While Turing was important in the decryption of Enigma, Tunny and the other cyphers, and was fundamental to computing, it should be pointed out that the Poles had already cracked Enigma and the Brits were using a development of Polish equipment to help do it. To give the correct people the credit, the team that actually cracked Enigma was Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Różycki and Henryk Zygalski. They first cracked Enigma back in 1934. This was with the help of documents given to the French by a German agent codenamed Asche, who is still unidentified. It should also be noted that a Swedish mathematician was decoding Tunny traffic (using a ten rotor Enigma machine) by hand around this time. This was very important as Tunny traffic was diplomatic traffic and had a much longer useful life.
@tonylong4209
@tonylong4209 Місяць тому
At Bletchley there is a memorial to the Polish mathematicians who worked out the German modifications. Enigma was a commercial machine and looking at an british German or Us patent would describe how it worked, but the Germans added the plug board which was the problem, which the brilliant Plones solved. And lets not forget GPO engineer Tommy Flowers
@spacecadet35
@spacecadet35 Місяць тому
@@tonylong4209 - Indeed, Tommy couldn't get credit for making the first digital electronic computer until 30 years after the War.
@JekyllH
@JekyllH 10 місяців тому
Brilliant scene! Very satisfying.
@PhilipNeighbour
@PhilipNeighbour 8 днів тому
Visited Bletchley Park a couple of weeks ago, absolutely fascinating. A friend who was with us said he was standing next to Turing’s statue and another man just came up and patted the statue on the arm and said “thank you” says it all really! Just watched The Imitation Game and again fascinating but the way they treated Alan Turing was abhorrent.
@pk7422
@pk7422 Рік тому
Alan Turing literally saved the world from tyranny and oppression by breaking this code! And then the world committed tyranny and oppression against him anyways. I'm not sure there is anything more heroic than a man who would give his life for even those who hate him. ALAN TURING = HERO
@happybear3706
@happybear3706 Рік тому
Now let me introduce you the reality of ww2 codebreaking because this movie is absolutely bs. m.ukposts.info/have/v-deo/jnmDnW6om3yDrnU.html m.ukposts.info/have/v-deo/snF9mZmKbmxjrnk.html m.ukposts.info/have/v-deo/inOIm4WYe4Wr0Y0.html m.ukposts.info/have/v-deo/p2N2qGynfJ1jyas.html
@antiabrahamicreligion
@antiabrahamicreligion Рік тому
​@@happybear3706 turing also invented turing machine and turing patterns
@happybear3706
@happybear3706 Рік тому
You saw the videos that I posted right? This movie is complete bull for anyone who actually cares about history.
@lisuraj6240
@lisuraj6240 3 місяці тому
Why every one forgot about polish matyematics who broke it first
@rafaroch1803
@rafaroch1803 8 днів тому
Except he didin't break the code, Marian Rejewski, a Polish mathematician did.
@StuartHollingsead
@StuartHollingsead Рік тому
So many people fought on all sorts of battlefields. From Heavy water to Enigma. Hard times create strong people.
@SophiaAphrodite
@SophiaAphrodite Рік тому
And many more dead ones.
@williamnelson9332
@williamnelson9332 Місяць тому
Thank you sir you saved millions of people ❤
@kirkster501
@kirkster501 Місяць тому
What an absolute genius. Alan and the rest of them saved millions and millions of lives. Soldiers, civilians all saved by his genius.
@nocalsteve
@nocalsteve 2 місяці тому
This is how I feel when I successfully balance my checkbook.
@zachmoyer1849
@zachmoyer1849 2 місяці тому
lol who still does that
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