Historically speaking no, theoretically speaking why not….. Forms are just guidelines, and fusing forms or aspects of those forms is how many compositional innovations came into being.

@@MusicaUniversalis Interesting. Yeah, it wouldn't be historically possible, but it could be possible now.

There is a waltz and trio by Beethoven in Eb WoO 84, but overall you'll mostly just see minuets or scherzos and trios

No just the German pronunciation that leaked through.

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Have a listen to the minuet in E-flat written (from the ‘Concerto o sia Divertimento a 8’ K. 113) by the 15-year old prodigy named Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart in Milano for a soirée concert (Nov 1771) after the premiere of ‘Ascanio in Alba’ - the delicate elan of such delightful Menuetto dance-music is incomparable and is stunning coming from the pen of a young teenager- If you study 18th century dance music you will find that their effect & sheer musical beauty is greatly enhanc’d by the spectacle of actually performing the dances themselves, preferably in 18th century dress… To dismiss such ‘serviceable music’ as jejune is …well, just plain ignorant… If you’re bored one day, have a very careful look at the score of Great Menuetto in F (and later in G) and a professional performance found in the Finale of Act I of D: Giovanni - the second repeat of which uncannily combin’d 2 other separate dance numbers (one each extra for the middle & lower classes) to be performed SIMULTANEOUSLY and in 3 different metres !! What composer to-day could pull THAT off without producing a load of ‘musical mush’ ?

🙂 You're more a fan of the Teletubbies dance?