Christopher Habszollern we’re not gonna get that, but apparently they’re working on a very early prequel show🙏

Zachary Caswell It probably won't be as interesting as a Valyrian story though imo. 😩

Christopher Habszollern no, but I’d take something over nothing, plus the Long Night/ Bran the Builder would be the second most interesting.

I don't think they would make a tv show out of it, but books are much easier to make.

Lots of money will have to be spent. 3 CGI dragons was hard enough, now imagine hundreds of dragons. The giant topless towers might also have to be CGI as well. Magic, spells and stuff would also have to be CGI.

What could possibly go wrong....

Pompeii

Both San Francisco and Tokyo are build on or near big fault lines, so those cities are ticking time-bombs aswell.

@@jorischroer5449 But wasn't it implied that their use of magic was the cause behind the eruptions?

@@roisbelhernandez1430 pompei was just a city not rome.

Show Bran maybe... But book Bran can only see through weirwood trees I think...

500 I.Q comment, and by the way, oh yea yea

Gamebrain 4k oh yeah yeah

@@benjamin9120 but they know how to make them, problem they only have two dragons right now

Its not about making there are few blacksmiths that can actually reforge valaryan blades. Its all about the ingrédients and yes dragon fire was part of it but also there were others ingrédients Which went gone in the doom.

Nosa he doesn’t write quick enough. I always imagined it would be beneficial for the publishing house to make a huge payment to grrm and outsource certain eras and regions to their own fantasy authors.

He is writing a book series on Agons Conquest

G.R.R.M. Can’t even finish his main series.

No man, we need Winds of Winter and Dreams of Spring

I would love one, after he finishes his main series of course

I suspect that, like Krakatoa, Valyria was once a single round volcanic cone, which in a prehistoric eruption blew itself out and caved in, like Tambora did, leaving a collapsed mess, which restarted erupting from many points.

really good theory my man

I would love for this to be a thing

Valyria is Rome, Ghis is Greek

@@mr.10rupees43 Ghis looks like Carthage.

@@sirol97 or Egypt.

Ghis is definitely Carthage

More like the Minoan civilization

ahhaahahah it's nice to see that other people who play it are here

its really the best... undiscovered gem from the rest of the GOT universe

for real

Holy shit Crusader Kings 2 by itself is a niche game, but the fact that you guys are also fans of the game of thrones mod for the game is amazing. I’d recommend you guys check out Vaelorbear he’s doing a dope custom series set during the andal conquest.

Plus the submod that lets you retake valyria

It’s not likely to happen. It doesn’t really make sense or have any relevancy to any of the plot lines.

dickrobot def possible as their blood magic was their doom... I also think their infighting and the faceless men brought about the doom also

Only death can pay for life, bruh.

valyria is a person?

Alden McGrath hey

A sling is the only weapon for a true man

@@gimgimlet6350 Innocence: A Plague Tail: "Am I a joke to you?"

Triggered me a little aswell

Yeah this is something I hate about film portrayal of medieval and ancient warfare. It is rarely even close to accurate. Just guys with swords and unrealistic armor walking with some archers thrown in... Slingers were lethal. ABSOLUTLEY lethal.

Its so great of George Rr martin to take inspiration from the real world

Better to be inspired by real world history and then his own imagination which is just full of bullshit.

More of a mix between Rome and and the Atlantis mythos.

Akislav1990 much of it is Roman history

@Tito Taufik It is very much a mix. But Rome is everywhere in Valyria

No, but the Targaryens had 5 dragons when they fleed to Dragonstone and at the moment of the doom, and they were just a minor family

20 Dragons and the volcano explode only 5 remain

I’m going to assume a dragon for however many people are in the family

There were about 40 dragon families, and once Valyrian Freehold sent an army of 300 dragons so aprox less than 10 dragons per family

@@definitelynotacheater there were 40 freeholder families but not all of them were dragon families only a select few had dragons

And on top of that, the Sling with a Lead Ball typically had longer range than your typical compound bow. Some people consider that Slingers may have been intended to counter archers before cavalry was 'mainstream'.

Super kind words :)

That was a very dumb and lazy writing choice, quite coherent with the 2 dumbass running the show. I don't see any reason to call Chroyane Valyria in the show.

there were other individual dragon riders, they were in the free cities when the doom happened, but after valyria was destroyed the free cities fell to infighting to succeed it, the remaining dragon lords were killed in the process there was one dragonlord who may have led a house, he gathered an army and his dragons and went to reclaim valyria but they were never heard from again

This was a massive system of 14 volcanoes erupting simultaneously, it’s just not fire, it’s lava and much more. And the whole dragons are fire made flesh is just allegory.

the celtigars and velaryions survived as well, didn’t they?

David Jarkeld kinda cool imo

@@Jg-jg6jb Think he was refering to when they shit

@@stefanlilleng6725 i don't think dragons shit. they're royal majestic beasts. dunno, can't confirm if a dragon has an asshole or not

Dragons either lived in caves or stables probably much like horses

@@mr.10rupees43 Dragons most certainly shit.

hi! i'm back ten months later. the remaining dragonlords were killed in the ensuing chaos of the century of blood. several noble valyrian families were slaughtered in the streets of the free cities as retaliation.

@@lauren-he4fr how abt their dragons, like wt is the possibility that every dragon is in valyria at the time of doom ( they can be on vacation or conquering lands or juz exploring). If only 5 dragons are used for unification of westeros, even if only three are present they can do pretty much.

@@rodangaming4889 there was a dragonlord named Aerion who had several dragons. He tried to reclaim valyria and become it's emperor. He was in Qohor at the time of the doom. He went missing and presumably died in valyria.

@@will2brown50 If I recall correctly, he only had one dragon and at the time of the Doom, he was staying in Qohor for unknown motivations (probably just passing by). After hearing the news of the doom, he raised an army of 30,000 qohorik men, declared himself First Emperor of Valyria and went to reclaim what was left of it atop his dragon. Neither the army, nor Aurion, nor the dragon ever came again. Btw I do believe some dragons may still be out there, a couple of wild dragons survived the Dance of Dragons and are never said to have died so they could have had offpring in time, and the same could be said about the Doom, maybe some managed to fly away

whycreate bra they dead as Robb

The mining jobs left and Valyria became the Rust Belt. The three cities are actually reminicisent of Detroit and Flint, Michigan, along with Gary, Indiana.

Maybe the magic affected the people around the Fourteen Flames and it's created something like Chernobyl. Where people that survived had cancer or malformations due to the radiation. Maybe the magic was huge enough to make it.

The people of Oros and Tyria mutated into feral monsters, and although Mantarys was not as effected, they too suffered (people were porn with two heads etc...)

Efjay 3 that's kinky

Vladimir Kichev he paid the iron price.

Read the chapters with Euron - then tell me you're so sure.

The book 'World of Ice and Fire' and I believe also 'The Lands of Ice and fire'. And also the books .

@@fuzzydunlop7928 also Fire and Blood

good question but what we do know that were 48 Dragons Families (Dragon Lords) The Targaryens was below power structure system.

Think their power was based on types of magic they could perform. It is often mentioned how much knowledge was lost in doom of Valyria. Some examples are architecture, volcano mining, Valyrian steel. We don't see Targaryens do any of those things. All they can do is bond with dragons and make black stone. That can also be the reason nobody listened to their warnings or cared when they left for Dragonstone.

Mephisto Lord of Hatred Ohhhhhh that would actually make sense, thanks for the replys

@@sophiawilson8696 there were 40 freeholders, not all of them were dragonlords targaryen may have been a weak dragonlord house but a dragonlord house nonetheless and would have been powerful within the standards of valyrian rulership

What if the Targaryens’ power were Dragon dreams

the dragons that dont breathe fire are called wyverns, there are loads of them that run rampant on the continent of Sothoryos and are one of the reasons why its so uninhabitable. theres also rumours that the Valyrians created dragons by experimenting on firewyrms and wyverns with blood magic (as a dragon is kind of a combination of the two species) but thats not confirmed

Valyria is like those Ancient Empires in Greko-Roman world and Mesopotamia. Pretty much the sorce of all civilisation in the West of the World Map is related to this land.

@@subutaynoyan5372 asshai is more like mesopotamia. assuming valyria is the source of all civilization is like assuming nothing came before greek and roman times.

ahah i was just looking whether it was just me or someone made a comment about it. good ear!

It's perfect for this typa videos

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@@ErenKaya-uz6dx Ohio, in the United States!

@@erikaheck8261 elyria is a really cool name for living in it

@@erikaheck8261 ahhh the city of the twisted tea legend😂

@@justicestacey5460 Truly a hero to many, both in Lorain County and all over the country 🥰

:)

Matt McCue that’s adorable

I want this on a T shirt!

Just read the news! complete coincidence

Ack. Well, at least you mention their Sothoryos colonies in this. Big fan of your map videos. Your next should probably be on Sothoryos. The idea is that Zamettar was their version of Roman Carthage, and the headquarters of the "Free Holder" faction (the wealthy merchant princes who aren't one of the two dragonlord factions). If you look at a map...we already knew that winds and currents in the Summer Sea go clockwise, which is why shipping lanes to Yi Ti have to go east through the north side of Great Moraq around Qarth. Well....how do they get back? Keeping in mind they've also said that most ships hug the coasts instead of going across open water (except the Summer Islanders and Ironborn). Well....ships heading west back TO Valyria would go along the coast of Sothoryos, and reach Zamettar. And we KNEW that Zamettar was once a flourishing city, right? Why would there be ruins if it wasn't once a functioning city? The idea is that the north coasts of Sothoryos used to be a more habitable/settled - before the tsunamis from the Doom wiped out Zamettar. Used to be a trade hub for all the ships coming back from Yi Ti - I'm guessing, but look at a map. So one of the big tensions in it will be like the fall of the Roman Republic: the capital versus the provinces. And which was the wealthiest province/most interesting? They settled on Zamettar (not ALL of Sothoryos, mind you, that's an entire continent, but the coastal strip used as a trade port. I mean, similarly, Qarth is just a city on the coast, but its entire hinterland is the useless Red Waste. Probably a short update on "Well, we know that Sothoryos had SOME cities in it, planted by the Ghiscari, captured by the Valyrians in the third Ghiscari War" etc etc. This video on its own is great, though - you do mention the Sothoryos stuff.

A handful survived, but none of the dragonlords did. The most powerful Valyrians in other cities were usually quickly assassinated, or killed by angry mobs. The video mentions the one surviving dragonlord who was in Lys when the doom happened. He declared himself emperor and then took a massive army to Valyria to try to find out what happened and just... never came back.

I think some valyrians live in braavos but no dragon lords

The World of Ice and Fire has everything and more!

Me too

White walkers are lucky the Valyrians are not around anymore

​@@dakiisanuppermoon9356 true

My Queen!

it is

The outcome almost would be the same, they wozld have conquered westeros, just maybe more sadisticaly or perhaps gentler. Either way, westeros would be united.

I do remember reading that there was some conflicts, but so little is known about the other dragonlord families

I doubt Valyria cared about Westeros but best believe the moment the white walkers set foot on Valyrian land it’s gonna be a bloodbath.

Before the Doom the Valyrias were planing to take over Westeros.

Iron iK?

I stopped reading after " I Raonic "

That's the show - in the books they pass through The Sorrows - not the smoking sea. In the show they combine these two areas, but in reality they are different. "In reality" lol - in the book reality. In the book's logic, they wouldn't even dare that trip.

C Y D There was a dragon lord who survived, but he returned to the freehold and disappeared.

@@DannyB1111 he is right, there were surely other Valyrians outside Valyria at the time of the catastrophe. But probably not Dragon Lords.

Houses Baelerys and Targeryen were dragonlords in Valyria (plus 38 othert dragonlord families) Houses Velaryon , Celtigar, and Qoherys where non-dragonlord houses in valyria

I'm assuming because it would be the ASOIAF worlds version of the real life rainbow mountains in Peru, you can google them and see why they would earn the name rainbow or if I'm correct in my theory "painted"