We Bought A £430 Entry Level Bike in 2023 - Value Or Trash?

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@MW-ud8zp
@MW-ud8zp Рік тому
I really love that you guys are making content on entry level stuff. I know this isn't your first video of this kind but still, it's a breath of fresh air in an otherwise "premium" landscape.
@showlate1
@showlate1 Рік тому
100% true. Love it!
@wpalmer5547
@wpalmer5547 Рік тому
So true. Considering the huge amount of people who live pay check to pay check it's crazy how high end 'the cycling scene' has gone - replacement parts & servicing costs too. Love these budget bike videos. They would have been really helpful when I was starting off.
@adrianpipe4670
@adrianpipe4670 Рік тому
Totally agree 👍
@jhvhest
@jhvhest 8 місяців тому
It is really a fun sport. Lot's of people who don't have the money or want to spend thousands of euro's on a bike. Though there is a lot of choice between 400 and 1000 euro. I drive a second hand triban rc500 and i tend to believe it is a good choice. (have to admit the bike was hardly used when i bought it.)
@reubenmaltby2535
@reubenmaltby2535 Рік тому
It’s really refreshing to see big channels like yours reviewing bikes that many people will be buying instead of £20,000 super bikes that most people will never touch
@bernardo9202
@bernardo9202 Рік тому
Agree but the budget should be a little higher. No newbies are going to reach this channel they could point the bikes to people with small budget that are already in the cycling world. That are willing to spend more on cycling than other hobbies. The budget should be 2000-2500
@triggamusician
@triggamusician Рік тому
But there are probably not many reviews of the Halfords Carrera bike and this video practically just gave it a 5star rating with 3 bonus stars for the unbeatable price
@bernardo9202
@bernardo9202 Рік тому
@@triggamusician I'm not saying that it isn't necessary to do these. I'm saying that cade audience is in more deep waters than the folks looking at a holfords bike. Should do a review on Rose alloy bikes are so good looking, MMR amazing price before the war/horrible wait lists, Merida scultura budget bikes are very good looking, Megamo, Polygon and so on. Just my opinion
@stephensaines7100
@stephensaines7100 Рік тому
Even though I cringe to think of riding something so inexpensive (I ride a fifty year old classic 531 well maintained and with the engine in great shape) these are the answer to keeping cycling affordable and available to more people. I'd spend a little more on a basic bike, but the gist is exactly right. I have absolutely no desire to buy a 'racing super duper latest GCN approved complete with canary outfit' bike. There's good engineering, and then there's superfluous hype. Take it back to local bike shops maintaining the former to keep average people cycling. The more cyclists there are, the better it is for we serious ones.
@_Zane__
@_Zane__ Рік тому
(Cough gcn)
@reecedawson6113
@reecedawson6113 Рік тому
I'd go for second hand, you should do a cheap bike challenge between you 2, a budget of £500 to go and find the best first road Bike
@99EMERSONIC99
@99EMERSONIC99 Рік тому
Love the idea! 🎉
@alejandrodoradom
@alejandrodoradom Рік тому
Me too! That would be awesome
@charliecook6909
@charliecook6909 Рік тому
That would be awsome
@Agiyi
@Agiyi Рік тому
That's not a good idea! This way, 2 good cheep bikes will end up to youtubers who don't need them and have many other expensive bikes, instead of ending up being sold to someone who will actually use them and don't have the money to get an expensive one.... Unless of course they make a video about the whole experience and then sell the bikes again, so they (the bikes) do end up to someone who will truly appreciate and use them.
@judosteffer
@judosteffer Рік тому
Yes! A £300 to £500 challenge! Then give the bikes away at the end or sell them
@avocette
@avocette Рік тому
It's nice to hear a very rational review on an entry-level bike without the first-world snobbery or elitism 🙌❤️
@mozzjones6943
@mozzjones6943 Рік тому
@@Jamesdfgsdhysetys Back in the day, Halfords bikes were always frowned upon when I was a kid lol You were un-cool and a cheapskate if you owned one. Times have very much changed, And not just changed but you see Halfords bikes everywhere! You are right they are the go to for most people now.
@MechaSkingles
@MechaSkingles Рік тому
I bought this exact bike in the same size from Halfords in November AND it was my first bike as an adult. I'm 25 and I haven't ridden since I was like 12 so it's definitely been a hot minute since I'd ridden anything. Furthermore I'd also never ridden drop bars before and I really agree with what you say about the weird shape of the bars on this bike - Riding on the tops and hoods is super comfortable and the width of the bar is perfect however riding in the drops feels really sketchy because the drops are just a strange shape. It kinda feels like there isn't enough room to put your hand on the bar at the bottom of the drop, like they got cut a little short on the back sweep. That being said, I'm a full covert to drop bars now as they're just so much more comfortable to ride around on and I don't spend an extended amount of time down in the drops on my rides to and from the shops or work so they're a pass for me for now - maybe I'll change them later on 😜 I also had the bike built for me - mostly because I had zero idea what I was doing and didn't want to mess it up - and I too had a problem with disc brake rub out the box which I learned to fix myself. I also found that my gears were indexed to absolutely nothing out the box and spent an evening learning how to do it myself and now it runs amazingly. I totally get what you're saying with it not being beginner gearing too - I live on the top of a hill in a really hilly area and the first month or two of riding I just couldn't get up the hill to my house so I had to walk it up which made me feel silly but I think that was a combination of the harder gearing and me being ridiculously unfit. After a few months of riding I'm happy to say I can totally make it up the hill home and I'm a much stronger rider. Me buying a bike was a way of having some reliable transport and to get my fitness up as I don't really get to stay active due to work. This bike really makes me excited to go for rides and I go out pretty much every day now even if it's only for half an hour to spin my legs a bit - I'm very thankful for it giving me the cycling bug 😊 Thanks for the killer video, guys - It's really refreshing to see someone talking about affordable beginner gear that can get more people excited to get in the saddle and, subsequently, make more people for everyone to ride with
@skinnylegsbarefootshoes
@skinnylegsbarefootshoes Рік тому
I’m considering a bike (same haven’t really ridden for years and never had drop bars) your comments really helpful 👍 cheers
@fuzzb0x436
@fuzzb0x436 11 місяців тому
This is the longest youtube comment I've ever seen
@abhishekdutta5909
@abhishekdutta5909 11 місяців тому
Can’t seem to find a size chart for Carrera Virtuoso LTD anywhere
@gurmeharsingh5228
@gurmeharsingh5228 10 місяців тому
@@fuzzb0x436 and i still read it all, the things you do for love
@mikeanderson7408
@mikeanderson7408 2 місяці тому
@@fuzzb0x436 Very informative & well thought out though. Thanks @MechaSkingles for taking the time to share your experienced of the bike.
@phobos7176
@phobos7176 Рік тому
I'm a beginner and I have this bike, I'm glad you said the gear ratios are tight, I thought it was just me being a beginner 😅 can justify changing the rear cassette now!!
@CantE8tCheese
@CantE8tCheese Рік тому
Seriously, this series is a treasure trove for people looking for their first bike. Absolute top notch service. Chapeau!
@OllyKilo
@OllyKilo Рік тому
I saw a £2700 Ribble described as an "entry level" gravel bike today on a website. Nice to see this channel reminding people that you can get into cycling without spending a lot of money.
@oril665
@oril665 Рік тому
I've to say I quite like those entry level bike videos. I have a lot of friends I want to bring into the sport, but most of them shy away from buying a bike for 1500€ or more, just to see if they like it or not. So please keep them coming as well as the ali express parts videos. You are helping to make the sport more accessibly for all of us :D
@hkp9257
@hkp9257 Рік тому
For trying just go second hand. But please help them to pick the right bike. Specially regarding the size and the components. If you need to change the tires and the cassette and the chain and and and ... right out of the gate, it sucks. If they dont like it, you will be able to sell it for a little bit less or maybe even earn some bucks :)
@oril665
@oril665 Рік тому
@@hkp9257 if they are about my height, I normally lend them one of my bikes. But for my sister for example this is not an option, luckily the Mrs and her are about the same hight. Yeah but all in all your are absolutely right, second hand should be the way to go if you are unsure about the sport.
@stephensaines7100
@stephensaines7100 Рік тому
Exactly! There's a point of quality below which the machine can be blamed for non-performance. There's a point at which the machine isn't what's holding back the rider from 'freedom'. And that's the gist of the 'affordable good bike'.
@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib
@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib 7 місяців тому
Just buy a used bike. $300 will get you a light road bike with brifters all day on marketplace.
@jonathandavies6862
@jonathandavies6862 Рік тому
I used to woek for halfords as a bike builder. For most people that enjoy cycling at a hobby level its a great entry level option.
@mznabi
@mznabi Рік тому
As someone who works at Halfords and has sold many of these bikes and similar it's nice to finally get a modern accurate review to reference
@BeforeEffects101
@BeforeEffects101 Рік тому
I'm sadly a Cycle Tech at Halfords, as you can imagine I fix many shit bikes a day. However they are good bikes usually and a reasonable price, just the people that buy it don't look after them as they know nothing about bikes.
@mznabi
@mznabi Рік тому
@@BeforeEffects101 ye I feel bad for u cycle techs the only golds I've ever quoted were worth more than the bike itself never had a nice bike booked in for repair unless they bought it cheap off marketplace and put dogshir parts on it
@Dan-Dans-Travels
@Dan-Dans-Travels Рік тому
​@@BeforeEffects101 could you recommend a cassette for this bike that would get me up hills easier? Ideally without having to change the derailer or anything else.
@edmundscycles1
@edmundscycles1 Рік тому
I used to work in halfords for my sins. I'd rather work on a carrera than a Cervelo TBH. Pretty decent bikes and I'd recommend them to anyone wanting to start cycling.
@ijustblartedmyself
@ijustblartedmyself 11 місяців тому
Cade -- thanks for being so thorough on your entry level series, it's great for us beginner riders trying to get more knowledge of the sport.
@Ferrybobbins
@Ferrybobbins Рік тому
I’m particularly liking the tips on upgrades. I’ve an old Cannondale for commuting which needs some serious tlc. This helps with the shopping list!
@Caleketa
@Caleketa Рік тому
What a great video on entry level bikes. I really do think that a lot of beginner cyclists can learn a lot from your’e video’s. Also want to mention again your’e collab with Jimmi, its outstanding. You are bringing your’e channel to a next level!
@marciooki5820
@marciooki5820 Рік тому
I just LOVE that budget bikes reviews,so perfect and clear for beginners (like me) Thank you so much GUYS!
@seekerofclarity
@seekerofclarity Рік тому
Brilliant video, we need more of these sorts of videos for people like me, who can't afford GCN ad £5k bikes. Please keep more of this sort of bike, including what you can find second hand. Thanks!
@NTHN93
@NTHN93 Рік тому
Love this stuff! I've only ever had a standard mountain style kind of bike in the past, have zero experience/knowledge but really want to get into road biking & the Carrera Vanquish is the exact bike I've been looking to get as my first ever bike. Hope you keep this entry level stuff going to help educate us beginners + look forward to what you'll do to improve this bike as I'll probably copy at some stage 🤣🤣🤣
@Idyll_Insomniac
@Idyll_Insomniac Рік тому
These videos could not have come at a better time, as Spring has begun. Going to hold off buying anything for the moment to see what info future videos bring.
@frenchbikewrench7451
@frenchbikewrench7451 Рік тому
Awesome to see a channel putting the same effort into reviewing realistic entry level bikes that most channels only do with bikes costing several times as much. Would be great to see you guys putting a couple of hundred quid into the suggested upgrades to see the result. Also as many have said doing some content on used bikes. Great stuff!
@r.davies2702
@r.davies2702 Рік тому
Cade Media keeping it real, reviewing bikes the general public actually buy.
@hithru
@hithru Рік тому
I started cycling on the 2015 rim brake version of this bike. I am so happy they switched to disc brakes and larger tyre clearence. I was keen to quickly upgrade to a new bike but it got me into the sport. And great for communiting to rowing.
@davidgarza2267
@davidgarza2267 Рік тому
Totally fair assessment on a pretty good bike. I can't think of a bike I've bought that I didn't immediately change the contact points (bars, saddle, pedals, tires) to suit my preferences.
@markwalker2986
@markwalker2986 Рік тому
How brilliant your videos are! I have a boardman road sport I bought 10 years ago I ride everywhere even though I also have full carbon airobike with ultegra groupset. It just goes to show that modern £500 bike is enough to get you fut and enjoy cycling. 😊
@jonathanchester5916
@jonathanchester5916 Рік тому
Very happy you tested this lovely bike and made a video. When you started discussing hangers it made me realize I was about to go on a bike trip without my spare. That alone is worth a couple thumbs up.
@steviemiller1343
@steviemiller1343 Рік тому
Bought one of these myself about 4 years ago, for £425. I'm a Cannondale junkie, so this was for about town, everyday stuff. The colour was black with green detail & the tyres were 25 mm. Aside from the drops - which took a bit of getting used to (not sure if they are the same as on the current model) - I couldn't fault the bike. It doesn't get used much now due to my more recent purchases being a Synapse & a Diverge, so I plan to use it as my Zwift bike - comfortable saddle & geometry. Good bike.
@peterbaskind9872
@peterbaskind9872 Рік тому
Considering what happened to the price of bikes in the past couple of years, that's really good value. Claris is actually not a bad groupset. Properly set up, it shifts very well. Yes; I am sure those tires are trash. It's a shame that tires (or "tyres" for you lot) are where low-end bikes cut corners. It's not just a ride quality thing; it's about safety. That's an easy change, though.
@davidjarvie9546
@davidjarvie9546 Рік тому
I'm a cycle technician at halfords, and have just recently come across the claris mechs, they seem to work very well although they don't look fantastic, I'll keep an eye open to see how well they perform and if they can last longer than shimano. Thanks 🇬🇧👍
@juanmiguelalejandrino
@juanmiguelalejandrino Рік тому
@@davidjarvie9546 Claris is Shimano
@jamescaley9942
@jamescaley9942 Рік тому
But it has a carbon fork and disc brakes. I'd rather have better tyres and a wheel that is not from a clowns car.
@fuzzb0x436
@fuzzb0x436 11 місяців тому
​@@davidjarvie9546 you're a cycle technician who doesn't know claris is made by shimano 🤔 how long exactly have you been a "cycle technician"
@davidjarvie9546
@davidjarvie9546 11 місяців тому
@@fuzzb0x436 6 years I'm sorry I don't know everything, I don't take my work home with me. But thanks for the info now I know.
@petecampbell8697
@petecampbell8697 Рік тому
Great review chaps and amazing value even considering the required upgrades. Good work 👊
@onemorecyclist
@onemorecyclist Рік тому
My rim brake Vanquish took me from John O Groats to Land's End in 2019 and never missed a beat (having made a few of the changes mentioned). It's now a grab and go flat bar single speed commuter. Again, kudos guys for showcasing the more budget bikes which for many are their entry to this fantastic past time! Happy cycling!
@gaza_
@gaza_ Рік тому
I’ve done three thousand miles on my carerra vanquish now.
@benjaminhuikeshoven
@benjaminhuikeshoven Рік тому
Love the entry level bike videos. Keep on coming!!!
@christopherhood9241
@christopherhood9241 Рік тому
Loving these videos & the "Francis/Jimmy show" ... really is a breath of fresh air. Be interested to see how this would work on a 2nd hand bike.
@ShortWheels360
@ShortWheels360 Рік тому
Great content again fellas. Showing what simple changes can make an entry bike better. But also another example of the industry, selling bikes to hit a price point, so you can go out and spend some more money within the industry to make the sensible changes that could be made before it hits the shops.
@stevenfreeman7798
@stevenfreeman7798 Рік тому
Great that you guys are testing cheaper bikes so helpful for people to find an excellent first bike. Well done!!.
@WicksyOnPS3in720p
@WicksyOnPS3in720p Рік тому
Thanks for the comparison against the Triban. Interesting to hear that the Carrera would, after reasonable tweaks, be the better bike. Appreciated
@stephenroberts1369
@stephenroberts1369 Рік тому
This is really interesting seeing what's available and how much one can get for the price. I like what your channel is doing covering everything. 👍
@thomasgrantham7499
@thomasgrantham7499 Рік тому
Would love for you guys to make those few upgrades to this bike and see if it actually improves it the way it should. Even with those upgrades the bike would still be quite cheap. A comparison of the upgrades to the stock parts would be great for those who want to start upgrading they’re budget bikes!
@stuartgrady2567
@stuartgrady2567 Рік тому
I got this bike and have changed the tires. Never bother changing the bars as I rarely use the drops. I fitted a 32T cassette. The wheel spoke kept coming loose so changed them as well. Makes a great winter bike.
@hockysa
@hockysa Рік тому
Love it. As much as I love seeing the latest and greatest it’s good to know the technology is trickling down to affordable price points.
@MrYorrik
@MrYorrik Рік тому
Love your content and it’s great to see honest reviews of entry-level stuff (as well as the more lovely stuff) for people like me who are more or less skint. About Microshift, I can’t compare it to any good slick groupset, but I’ve got Microshift Advent 1x9 on my cheap Decathlon almost-mountainbike and I’m well impressed with it. It feels reliable and robust and has been shifting, I’d say faultlessly for over a year (for something at this pricepoint)
@philiphumphrey1548
@philiphumphrey1548 Рік тому
I have a 17 year old Carrera Subway hybrid that I use as an all terrain bike. It was well made, and while most of the components have now been changed, it's still going strong. I notice that the current version on sale is about a couple of kilograms heavier. If I had to replace the old bike now, I'd probably go for a more expensive brand.
@olliecoburn2272
@olliecoburn2272 Рік тому
Would be great to see a follow up video where you do some of the upgrades you've suggested and compare.
@leanderm4600
@leanderm4600 Рік тому
Love the video! I would be very interested to see a test of second hand bikes in the price range around $500. Especially in a comparison to the entry-level bikes you bought at Decathlon and Halfords. My guess is that the 'cheap' bikes do not hold up well over time, whereas second hand bikes with older but higher quality parts often seem indestructible
@h3n488
@h3n488 Рік тому
So nice to watch this entry level content! Being at this level I get some valuable info. Thanks!
@andyamos8594
@andyamos8594 Рік тому
Spot on the money guys!! A lot of us don't race and haven't got the money to buy a "proper" bike so the likes of Decathlon, Halfords (or similar in other countries) and second hand (now thats an idea) is where a lot of us end up looking. Keep up with these budget reviews, they are great!!
@mattpotter8725
@mattpotter8725 Рік тому
It's interesting that you mention the gear ratios because I bought a bike from Halfords 30 years ago, or rather my dad did (so it was an entry level budget friendly bike), and the gear ratios were horrific then as well. Where I live isn't that flat and there was one hill that if I made it up I was chuffed with myself because it was that tough. My friend on his mountain bike with much better gearing could just spin his pedals, albeit going uphill slowly, but it was so easy for him. Watching this made me remember those days. Back then there was no UKposts and only TdF highlights on the TV so I never even thought you could actually change the cassette (maybe you couldn't on that bike, who knows, but it would have made life so much easier. That short hill felt like I was going up Alpe d'Huez every time (minus the 20 or so hairpins)!!!
@danalec4742
@danalec4742 Рік тому
Hi. I got second hand Carrera Virtuoso, same bike like yours but with alloy fork(better for bikepacking) . I changed the brakes with ZTTO hybrid cable actuated hydrolic. I chenged the handlebar 😁, I put 32mm Continental tyres with RideNow TPU inner tubes. I chanded the Claris rear derailleur to long cage and I put 34t 8s cassette. I changed the crank with an old Sora Hollow tech and new Bsa bottom bracket. Finally I changed the saddle. I love thise bike. It's already equipped with all the bags and it is ready for bikepacking. The geometry it's quite relaxed. The bike is very robust and tyre clearance is not bad 32mm is CX territory. Another amazing video. I happy we share the same thoughts. Best regards.
@elliottrider9477
@elliottrider9477 Рік тому
I've had this bike for 9 months for my winter/ commute bike (1,153.1 miles as of this morning on strava)..... The wheels have cup and cone bearings so changed them for Vision Team 30, changed the saddle for a ec90 saddle (I have the proper Specialized Power Comp Saddle on my summer carbon bike, sorry I cant pay £80 for each bike) and fitted £30 Halfords mud guards. I have only just changed the chain last week but everything else is running perfect. The wheels that came with the bike have now got 35mm tyres on for gravel/ canal rides (I live in Birmingham) and will update you once I have tested them with the frame. I personally have no issue with the gears ratio or bars but I am not as experienced as you guys. I can honestly recommend this bike.
@johnnunn8688
@johnnunn8688 Рік тому
5 years ago my local Halfords had a Boardman MX hybrid in stock for £600. When it was the last one in the shop and down to £300, I bought it. It has never been under cover and has had disc pads, chain and cassette replaced. It’s still in good Nick, top buy. I’ve always liked Halfords except for servicing; I don’t trust their mechanics.
@natsumi3058
@natsumi3058 Рік тому
a video on comparing the budget bikes with your recommended upgrades and seeing how much better they are, with the focus on which is the best bang for buck.
@AnotherAnonymousMan
@AnotherAnonymousMan Рік тому
This entry level series is great! I've been itching to get my first road bike for a couple of years now (just need to convince my SO cycling isn't dangerous)...
@CMZPICTURES
@CMZPICTURES Рік тому
I have a Virtuoso, which I think is the same bike but with an alloy fork. I did add a longer cage rear mech and a 34 on the back. Then I changed the crankset for a fsa subcompact. For tires I got some 30mm Zafiros, the front one just barely fits. Then I got a weird little bracket from eBay that lets me mount panniers. It's been great fun although sometimes I think the handling is a bit aggressive for what I use it for. 😂
@essjayaitch
@essjayaitch Рік тому
My first road bike was a steel framed Carrera from the early 90's. Lowest gear was 42-23, although I did later fit a 39 tooth chainring which was the smallest that would fit! Gears didn't get any smaller back then! 34-28 is perfectly adequate for the hills of North Wales!
@jonathanleach3914
@jonathanleach3914 Рік тому
My OH has used a Carrera crossfire for commuting to work for years. It has been really good. It’s needed tyres, chain etc which wear out with use, but it has been really good.
@StephenBoyd21
@StephenBoyd21 10 місяців тому
I keep thinking about buying a road bike, my massively heavy hybrid is horrible to ride. Your entry level bike tests are ideal for me because this is the sort of budget that I would be looking at.
@jwarmerdam7578
@jwarmerdam7578 Рік тому
would love to see a second test with the changed components, see how it holds up then :)
@cyclingSausage
@cyclingSausage Рік тому
I've recommended Carreras for years. On a budget they are great bang for buck. My first proper mtb, and road bike were Carreras.
@felixburman5988
@felixburman5988 Рік тому
another great video! i would love to see your opinion on the new, revamped and higher spec range of decathalon bikes that look to come with deep carbon wheels from mavic and a choice of ultegra or dura ace. they are also UCI approved so that would be cool to see
@jesmondo5785
@jesmondo5785 Рік тому
I know a lot of comments are saying this but it's very refreshing to see a genuine entry level bike. When you're saying entry level and reviewing a bike that's £1500-£2000 you've made a wrong turn somewhere
@fennec13
@fennec13 Рік тому
a really solid deal for a bike to start out on ! 2X8 claris is a really solid and reliable platform, is it premium, no ! But it'll sure get you in some nice miles before most beginners ever need more ! Looks like a nice bike overall for an astonishingly good entry point ! AND a platform you could upgrade over time like a bit more of a nicer groupset, (with better ratios) and or a bit nicer saddle (that suits the rider). or bars, or wheels. But right out the box, pretty good imo
@emmettolentino2962
@emmettolentino2962 Рік тому
Would watch a video with Jimmy’s 2.5 upgrades to this bike.
@Andy-co6pn
@Andy-co6pn Рік тому
Yeah but the .5 would have to be one side of the bars only 😅
@rob.pittaway
@rob.pittaway Рік тому
Right well, if I wasn’t addicted to your content before…. This stuff is great, being able to share stuff like this with new riders is so helpful, rather than taking my biased opinion on things ha. Well done guys, keep it up.
@mrwhiteshorts
@mrwhiteshorts Рік тому
Well done Francis. Excellent video. You should hvave pointed out that your local bike shop will be more than happy to advise which bars, stem, cassette and tyres to put on to an otherwise, lovely entry level bike. I would encourage anyone with £700 to spend on a new bike to get something like this and spend a bit of time, getting some Controltech Ones, Deda RHMs, a Sunrace or Claris cassette (or even putting a road fairy onto the hanger) and some quality Schwalbes on the go. Durano, Lugano or Marathons. cheers.
@tomshorey9
@tomshorey9 11 місяців тому
Was going to get this bike as an entry-level bike to get back into cycling. They were out of stock due to the Suez Canal stuff at the time, so got the Pinacle Laterite 2 instead from Evans Cycles for a little bit more. Been really impressed with that one.
@MTBScotland
@MTBScotland Рік тому
Had the cheapest voodoo gravel bike before I bought my current road bike. Actually found it very good. Changed the pads and put on a compressionless front brake out. For the cost it was great just heavy. Bar feel was the exact same as what you noticed.
@Obsrvr86118
@Obsrvr86118 Рік тому
As usually, I am here to comment that buying second hand is usually a better choice assuming you have a bit of understanding of bikes oooor you are willing to learn a bit from some youtube tutorials. However, I appreciate you guys not trashing these bikes purely because they dont have aero wheels :D Also I think it is a cool idea for a video where you each have X budget and you buy a second hand bike from it. if you buy a bargain for less, you can decide to spend that money on upgrades. Then you meet back and try and compare the bikes.
@matthewshaw3747
@matthewshaw3747 Рік тому
Good thing about this advice though is these are a true entry point for people if they know very little about bikes. You could easily get stitched up (by your own lack of knowledge or by the seller) going second hand but if you get something like this as long as you don’t stuff up the size your going to be all good.
@arcoulant87
@arcoulant87 Рік тому
Its about time some one is reviewing entry level bikes Chapeau to you both, would not see this on that other channel ncg 😎
@FaithsFallen
@FaithsFallen Рік тому
I still use my Carrera road king (its the one in the picture actually) this is what the Vanquish was 15ish years ago apart from a few replacement parts due to wear it's still going strong. Cycling does not need to be expensive!
@AlistairLattimore
@AlistairLattimore Рік тому
Would love to see you fix those few items and re-review to see if it really does improve it like you’d hoped!
@stephensaines7100
@stephensaines7100 Рік тому
Agreed! And perhaps even offer a few options, like a smaller inner chainring vs changing cassette, various tire choices, etc and chart them to rate what offers the most gain per investment. The same findings would apply to a lot of 'affordable' bikes.
@ondank
@ondank Рік тому
A note on halfords cycle care plan. I took it out thinking its really cheap and would be a good idea. And for the discount and free fitting of stuff its ok. But the servicing is basically non-existent. Every time I tried to book to use one of the services, there was never a mechanic available or I would turn up to actually have the service happen but when I turned up no one was there to do that. Now that might have just been my local grouping of stores in south london, but still, its something to be aware of if your buying a bike and a careplan from them
@ilikewasabe
@ilikewasabe Рік тому
Love the value series. Might i suggest a retro grouch commuter challenge
@_Zane__
@_Zane__ Рік тому
I like microshift, I setup a microshift acolyte on the wifes old 26" trek mountain bike and it works awesome😊
@rich_valets9937
@rich_valets9937 Рік тому
Heya guys, really enjoying the “New Channel” i really like the fact that you are covering budget bikes, waaaay too many youtubers that only seem to review and promote bikes that are way out of an average or beginner budget!! please keep up a variety of reviews 👍🏼….. im in the market for a budget road bike, but i wonder whats best 1) £500-900 budget bike (New) 2) 2nd hand older Mid entry bike 3) a good set of road wheels for my Gravel bike??
@Harley_Gauge
@Harley_Gauge Рік тому
Was really surprised at the bike I managed to pick up at Halfords recently. Boardman road bike, full carbon, full 105 groupset and hydro disc. Couldn't find what I was looking for at that price. Halfords isn't really the place when you think to spend money on a higher end bike but I think this was a steal
@ashleymcavery4132
@ashleymcavery4132 Рік тому
My first road bike was a Carrera and the first things I changed were the exact ones you chose. Fantastic little bike for the money, especially if you can get it when it's discounted
@rogercmerriman
@rogercmerriman Рік тому
Bought my Gravel bike few years back with a similar spec, I changed the tires fairly promptly, which make a huge difference. And did go hydraulic as I found cable never worked that well off road at least! If I ever needed it be decent commute bike to be honest, the Halfords bike.
@sausage2293
@sausage2293 Рік тому
I bought a Carrera Virtuoso road bike almost 7 years ago for just under £300, still going strong. Hoping to upgrade to something a bit nicer one day.
@geoffbaker4452
@geoffbaker4452 Рік тому
Same here, and I thought the Virtuoso was really nice looking. Rode it for 7 years, just changed to better tyres. Eventually gave it away to my son in law who still rides it.
@R501GT
@R501GT Рік тому
I had the rim version of this bike. It was just over 10kg, comfortable, quick enough and smooth. I owned a Cannondale CAAD8 at the time and I didn't think the Carrera felt much different. A bargain really
@TheWillRogers
@TheWillRogers Рік тому
That's really impressive. The equivalent costing bike at a Walmart in the U.S. is a Decathlon Riverside 100 with friction shifters and rim brakes. 1x6. It's also cool that it has sizes, Walmart bikes (especially Schwinn, Huffy, Kent) are all a single size.
@davidjarvie9546
@davidjarvie9546 Рік тому
Hi guys new sub, I'm a cycle technician at the said store mentioned in the video above. Love your critique of the vanquish, my manager let me know about your channel and I'm impressed guys,you were more than fair in your assessment of the bike,I also do not like the handlebars and have mentioned this to halfords HQ. The vanquish is a good value bike at that price ,it is smooth on the ride and as you say just change a few bits that you personally don't like and you will have a great bike which will perform as well or better than more expensive bikes that do the same. 🇬🇧👍👍👍
@Dan-Dans-Travels
@Dan-Dans-Travels Рік тому
Could you recommend a better cassette that will allow me to get up hills easier? That's the only issue I have with this bike.
@keessonnema
@keessonnema Рік тому
Would love you guys to upgrade this bike to what you think is considered great. Nice videos series, love these! There's nothing quite in depth like it on YT.
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop Рік тому
Good you opted this one and not the cheaper Tourney one. Btw, 435 is for an alloy fork option of same-ish frame
@gdfggggg
@gdfggggg Рік тому
I bought a 750 quid gt grade full carbon, second hand. A very fast road bike that if you want to go on the gravel, you can. Awesome.
@gmsvalley
@gmsvalley Рік тому
I did the money conversion, for the same price I could get at Costco Northrock SR1 (made by Giant) with Sora and proper handlebar. I bought one 2 years ago. I replaced a few things because I like quality pieces. I changed the wheels, the brake pads and the crankset. My Costco bike doesn't feel cheap at all, it is my road bike #2, it is about 1 or 2 km/h slower than my expensive bike.
@gpersonaltrainer
@gpersonaltrainer Рік тому
Nice series. These recent purchases (Carrera and Triban) staying in the range price of £350-£430 makes you reconsider the option of purchasing an used carbon bike, with better components. In fact, while it's pretty inevitable that the purchase of an used bike will force you to spend more money servicing it, on these bike you know that for the first 2,000 miles you should be problems free. After this mileage, you'll probably need to replace some parts, but I guess not a lot newcomers cover that distance in a few months.
@Manetty6
@Manetty6 Рік тому
if you want cheaper than dirt, crisp shifting sti, get sensha 2×7...11 levers. works amazing. single lever, no paddle shifters, just the brake levers. small slilde in, shift to the smaller, slide in big, shifts up. kinda shimano and sram mix. great stuff. and the most important, cabels under the hoods.
@merseypicsvids
@merseypicsvids Рік тому
Have been a loyal subscriber since the early days and like the new content that you're producing, but I really miss the ride vids with just you and your mates enjoying a ride somewhere. Appreciate the new style gets more views, but I miss the old ones. They were ace to enjoy watching with a coffee.
@monkeyboy7981
@monkeyboy7981 Рік тому
I've got an old vanquish, the white and green one. It's still going, it's done 1000's of miles, it's had new pads, new tyres and two new cassettes and chains. I can't fault the thing, it's more reliable than my more expensive purchases. And yes I had to change the town ratio to an 11-32 😁
@spirallingdreams91
@spirallingdreams91 9 місяців тому
Which cassette did you change it too ?
@monkeyboy7981
@monkeyboy7981 9 місяців тому
@@spirallingdreams91 I think the first one was the basic Shimano 11-32 (HG-51 or something like that), it's currently on a 7 speed SRAM 11-32 which is good apart from what feels like an odd gap halfway through the cassette.
@sean9820
@sean9820 11 місяців тому
Quickly becoming my new favorite cycling channel, awesome work lads.
@danielclarke7632
@danielclarke7632 Рік тому
Loving the content at the mo 😍
@rohanworsey5055
@rohanworsey5055 Рік тому
I have this as my throw around bike and upgraded it with sram rival and some DT Swiss 1800 wheels, kind of overkill but dropping people on a carrera makes me feel like a champion
@nazmulmannan5694
@nazmulmannan5694 Рік тому
It's great that you guys are looking at entry level bikes as buying a new bike as a newbie can be quite daunting. I've seen the Vitus Razor from Wiggle /Chain Reaction as another entry level option. What are your thoughts on that bike?
@MrDJGix
@MrDJGix Рік тому
I actually own the same bike and other then the bars I have changed the cassette to a 32 and the tyres to some hybrid ones and I love it.
@andras.89
@andras.89 Рік тому
Absolute love this "series" already, you guys could be the pioneers for us hard workers (small earners :D) to present new bikes for 500-1000EUR range.
@timothydog76
@timothydog76 Рік тому
Imagine asking Francis Cade if he would like to purchase extra maintenance and protection for his budget bike purchase. :D For real, we see a lot of very expensive bikes on your channel. Good on you for showing some great entry level options for new riders out there.
@jonlee7440
@jonlee7440 Рік тому
That is my first road bike (even though that was 2017 and rim brake). Everything you said was right; I changed the tyres which made a massive difference and put a bigger cassette on it which helped as well. I did eventually get a new set of wheels (Shimano RS100) which made it feel better again.
@spirallingdreams91
@spirallingdreams91 9 місяців тому
What cassette did you buy ? Did you fit that on to the existing drive train no issues ?
@puchookida
@puchookida 10 місяців тому
I like the comment at the end, to make it a great bike you need to change this and that... And you end up buying more in spare parts that you spent initially on it. Sometimes, it is better to take a new complete bike... I did this exact same calculation when starting listing what I will upgrade to make my triban bike better...
@xianumbro
@xianumbro 11 місяців тому
I've been using this bike for the last 6 months. I agree about the tyres - I threw away the stock ones and got Panaracer, way better. The tyre clearance it's impressive, I have a second set of wheels with 35" tyres - there's probably enough room for 38" too, not bad for a road bike (I also ride on gravel)! I've replaced the pedals since I really didn't like the stock ones. About gear ratios - I think it's a very personal thing; the only time where I was struggling was on a 20% climb (I had to stand on pedals pushing hard on 1st gear) - otherwise no issues. Overall it's a great bike, not perfect but for what you pay you get a lot.
@HarryFunmaker
@HarryFunmaker Рік тому
Bars, cassettes, saddles, tires are all such personal things that I'd expect to change them on pretty much any bike. Even after those changes, you're still looking at a pretty good price, especially considering the ridiculous price of higher-end bikes these days.
@Hendaz89
@Hendaz89 Рік тому
The carrera folding bike is great fun well set up give it a try I had mine at hamsterley down a red trail I'd changed the tyres and put hydraulic brakes on good fun
@Katastra_
@Katastra_ Рік тому
Hearing the complaint about the front rings is amusing considering 50/34 seemed to be the 'standard' compact setup when I got my bike a handful of years ago
@ronnham
@ronnham 8 місяців тому
I bought an RC120 with disc brakes and I swear by this bike. In fact it was so good that I bought another one when the first one was stolen. I added clipless pedals, replaced the tires on that one, and got the cable actuated TRP HY/RD hybrid calipers and the bike now rides like a charm. The next upgrade will be a decent wheelset (I'm thinking Mavic Allroad, would love your advice!). I genuinely think that this could potentially be the best sub-1000Eur setup! Also, MicroShift is so underrated. They're really really good!
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