You have a new Leaf that undoubtedly allows you to connect your phone via bluetooth. Why are you holding your phone? Grrr.

Great video. My one big takeaway is how wonderful it is to see a father and son working together and enjoying their time together. Continue the journey and relish the time together.

I really like how you put this video together. It is very well made and I enjoyed it pretty much. But: You two are really biased towards the Tesla as you keep constantly bashing the Leaf. If something goes well for the Tesla it's by design but with the Nissan it's always luck? I think Nissan doesn't get enough credit for the fact that they're the best traditional car manufacturer when it comes to electric vehicles. Especially this current version shows that a well made compact EV doesn't have to look weird or cost much to be very good.

I've come to notice, on my leaf, that the e-pedal uses a lot of the friction brake to brake consistently. I opted to not using the e-pedal mode and just using the b mode instead of the d mode and play with the brake pedal for maximum re-gen. I use to see a bunch a brake dust with e-pedal mode. I rarely see it now.

Good review. Lane change is part of enhanced autopilot. If you only have autopilot it will steer, accelerate and brake, but you have to buy the enhanced or full self driving for the other features.

I really like these real world, fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants reviews.

Great entertaining video -- enjoyed! But leads to a misleading conclusion. They assume that by charging each car to 236 miles of range and comparing their range at the end of the drive they will be able to determine which car is more efficient. When the range totals are nearly the same at the end of the trip they conclude that each car provides the same efficiency. However, this is a flawed way of comparing efficiencies because using range estimate to determine efficiency is circular. The computer in each car derives the range estimate of each car by estimating the efficiency of the car (based on a number of factors) and multiplying that by the energy left in the battery ( mi/kWh * kWh = mi). For that reason you cannot use the comparison of the estimated ranges of each vehicle as a way of comparing their efficiencies because the estimated range takes into account the assumed efficiency of each vehicle. All they are really doing in this video is comparing the difference of how each vehicle estimates range on a hilly drive. Which is useful to know as range estimate is based on the assumption of driving on flat ground. If you really want to compare the efficiencies of each car based on this drive you have to use the percent of battery left in each car as compared to each cars total battery size, and use that to determine how much energy each car used on the drive. Based on what they said in this video the model 3 used 37 kWh and the Leaf used 44 kWh. Making the model 3 more efficient, which is what is expected based on the EPA ratings of each car. For highway driving (which is what most of their drive was) the Leaf has an EPA MPGe rating of 94, while the Model 3 has a rating of 112. Meaning the model 3 is rated to be 16% more efficient at highway driving. On their drive the model 3 used 7 less kWh of energy than the Leaf, meaning it was 16% more efficient. So really what you can conclude based on their test is that the model 3 is 16% more efficient at highway driving, which is exactly what you would expect based on the EPA ratings of each vehicle.

Fun fact that aluminium power unit in the Nissan Leaf and several other components are made in Australia. Somewhere hidden on it is a tiny Kangaroo, a little nod to where it is made.

That old thunderbird at the gas station though what a time hop. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="710">11:50</a>

On this trip my phone battery went from 41% to 0%

I’ve been looking for a very detailed channel on vehicles! You take your time and don’t talk a mile a minute, very down to earth! Love it! Tesla is beautiful!!

I'm personally of the opinion that MPGe is a stupid metric. I think mi/kWh, kWh/100mi and Wh/mi are much more meaningful metrics for EVs

You have AP, not EAP or FSD, it’s only auto steering within its lane it won’t change lanes for you

You guys should do a long EV road trip like the ones you’ve done with SUVs from CA to CO!

I couldn't care less about the"miles remaining" on your return to the shop. I want to know "kWh consumed" for each car during the trip.

Did almost this same trip this weekend in my hybrid. It was nuts watching the mpg drop from 40.1 to 34.1 on the way up and then return to 40.2 when we got back home. Very cool comparison video. Keep edutaining us!

I love how the pro pilot is 10 seconds, so about the same as having a car with a good alignment. I have enjoyed this channel and your reviews for quite some time now. Thus is a total REAL WORLD channel. I love how all of the TFL crew are honest. They all let the facts speak for themselves, and all try to be as unbiased as possible, but will respectfully state if they have a different opinion. Keep up the excellent work!

Thanks for the video guys. I have mixed feedback on this. The bottom line is yes, if one is looking at a full battery electric vehicle, then go with the biggest battery your budget will allow, even though the majority of the typical daily driving is well covered by any BEV with a 35kWh pack size or higher. Yes for longer trips, a bigger battery pack is gold. However, with that goes increased cost. And in your comparison, for the money spent on each vehicle, I would say the Leaf did pretty good against the Model 3. Yes they are both from the ground up BEVs with of course many differences. Those differences are reflected in the pricing. The Tesla costs more and you should get better performance out of it given what it is. For battery management, Tesla is king right now with what I think is the best BMS on the planet by far. No one in that sense can touch them. That being said, the Leaf and Model 3 tend to go after different markets. Nissan is not trying to compete with BMW, Mercedes, Audi and the like where Tesla is (it's a premium brand according to Elon!). Therefore the metrics for these markets are different and as such that is reflected in the design and offerings. Hence why the Leaf does not have a Frunk and looks more like a traditional ICE vehicle. That is on purpose from Nissan as they want to compete with the Toyota Corollas, Honda Civics, and the like - to get into more mainstream markets with a value-priced all-around good BEV. The Leaf does not have to be top in any category, but just be a decent all-around everyday car. Tesla is built on performance, style, design, technology and that is the type of owners they are targeting. And in your remarks about ProPilot and AutoPilot, remember that Nissan's system is based just on a single camera and single radar. Tesla as multiple cameras, radar and sensors so it should perform much much better. However, ProPilot is really really good for what it is and I don't get the "ponging" at all my 2018 Leaf SL 40kWH, and I've been driving it for almost a year now! I did a highway video of PP last fall and it performed admirably. So even though they in some cases may be similarly priced (Model 3 SR+ RWD with no other options vs. Leaf SV Plus or SL Plus), they still IMO go after different markets. And those markets are not to compete with one another, but to compete and displace ICEVs - as the end result it to put more Zero Emission Vehicles on the road and less tailpipes! While I appreciate the video and "testing", its safe to say that both vehicles performed very well with the more expensive ($10k+ more), more powerful, more heavy and with more battery - the Model 3 ending up with basically the same final range left as the Leaf. To me, I would say the Leaf came out on top as it has the smaller battery and passive thermal management! The take away here is that BEVs can perform very well in all situations and it is important for longer journeys to understand range and driving characteristics to a point, as well as charging infrastructures, etc. However, for the majority of use cases, people can just get in them and drive them. Come back to a home charger, plug in and the next day repeat without any worry. You can't refuel your ICEV at home! BEVs are becoming more mainstream for the simple fact that they in most circumstances can replace an ICEV and provide a better driving, maintenance and ownership experience. More manufacturers are cranking out and will provide even more choice year after year as this industry is rocketing up in scale. Tesla is not the only player anymore (remember Nissan came out with the Leaf before the Model S and the Leaf was targeted at a more mainstream market since day 1 - just technology pricing at that time made them very cost-prohibitive versus ICEV). We are still not at cost parity today, but hopefully should achieve that within my prediction of 5-7 years, but I really really hope it is sooner.

Fantastic video, this is an important comparison test to have made and I'm glad you guys took several steps to make the comparison as even as possible based on several factors. Impressive that the two came out as being effectively tied!

Americans have awful lane discipline... When you are not overtaking move back to the cruising lane! This is why traffic is formed.

The hump in the leaf contains the battery isolation contact which is why the hump has a plastic panel on it which you lifted up and then pull the contact out. so when work on the high voltage system or carry out panel repair that may require welding etc or in a emergency you can easily disconnect the battery

Have an electrician install a NEMA 14-50 outlet 240v with a 50 amp circuit breaker. This install should only run about $200+. Do not mention anything Tesla or they will quote you much higher. This should allow you to charge at 90% in only 4+ hours or around 35mi per hour compared to the 2-3mi per hour you guys are getting now.

This is one of your best videos. I like you doing fun things like this! Very entertaining, and informative. I love learning about electric cars. Thank you.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="900">15:00</a> "we're doing the speed limit... " GET OUT OF THE GORRAM PASSING LANE!!!

Have you checked if it is turned on? Auto-Lange Change (ALC) must be enabled in Controls -> Settings -> Driver Assistance

I love that this channel is open to changes, and not just dismissive of EVs. I honestly don't understand why more people aren't excited about what EVs can do. Giving up loud engine sounds for insane acceleration seems like trading fake exhilleration for real exhilleration, and comparing performance EVs to performance cars, they are way cheaper. While EVs might be more expensive up front, the truth is that even right now today, the cost to own over a 79 month period for a moderately priced EV is still much cheaper than an affordable ICE vehicle. The average US price for a new car is $36,000 and 24 MPG average. The equivalent budget for price parity on an EV including cost of ownership over a 79 month period is $46,000 without any tax incentives!

Great video, nothing beats real world chair gripping tests. A similar test with the Kona EV v model 3 would be awesome!

This was perfect for me. I live in Littleton and have been thinking about getting one of these. Biggest worry was driving up to A-Basin which is right down the other side of Loveland pass.

Also FYI, you can just press the button on the charge cable to open the tesla's charge port, same button you use to unlock it when you unplug.

Awesome video guys. The haters are going to give you crap about comparing the two and how it's not the same thing and blah blah blah. Truth is, this is EXACTLY what people want to see. You guys covered all the bases and showed a perfect amount of info. My parents mountain house is 88mi from my house, and takes 2 charging stops in my gen 1 Leaf to get there. If I leave the mountain house with 100%, I don't have to stop at all coming back. My Leaf has about 80mi of range.

Has hands free calling in the car, doesn't use it. Uses speaker phone but still feels the need to hold the phone to his face. Good job the son is more sensible.

Awesome job! We need way more real world test videos like this to show all the kinds of trips to visit family and friends and what to expect.

We have a BMW i3 in the family and as a tech guy, let me give you a couple of tips... #1: To best measure efficiency, forget the often inaccurate range meters. Instead, reset your trip computer before the start and just compare the Wh/mile figure. #2: To get Autopilot to change lanes: Settings -> Controls -> Autopilot -> Automatic Lane Change -> ON (it might have been moved in the recent software update, but the setting definitely exists) #3: As much as some people keep saying that all electric cars are the same, I recommend watching this video (a teardown of BMW i3 vs Chevy Bolt vs Tesla Model 3 - shows how far ahead Tesla is with electronics design): ukposts.info/have/v-deo/qJemaqOigpCor5s.html Thanks for these videos though. Very interesting. Keep it up!

I love the energy graphs in the Tesla. They make trips anxiety-free. My leaf was nerve-wracking going over mountains.

Excellent review - The two guys are very, very good. Many thanks......all the way from London !

This was a great review,..I am impressed,...with both cars. Well done you two!

Wow, you guys need to install 60 amp breaker's. That recharge time is pretty long. Great review keep up the good work love the electric car videos

Drooling over that Model 3 right now!

See that’s why I love you guys. I haven’t even finished watching the entire video, but I already like the premise.

I like in the Leaf it shows on the right side of the screen how if you were to turn off climate control you can gain a mile or two range. I’ve always been curious about how much the air conditioner would affect mileage. Especially down here in Texas. I’d love to see y’all do a summer video focused on the air conditioners affecting mileage.

Gents...one of the best real-world reviews I've seen in a long time...nicely done!

Oh the early days of charging via a 110v outlet... A dryer outlet in the garage will be your best friend.

I love this series so far. Good job, guys

Shouldn't you have charged the cars to the same amount of kWh. Charging them to the same amount of projected miles - I mean : what does that even show. Anyway loved the video - lots of fun

Quit hogging the left lane!!!!

Fantastic video fellas. Pretty sure I have watched every single one of your uploads for the last 6 years

I love this video series. Thanks for doing it! It was an interesting comparison but it isn't much different than the same comparison between a 1 ton dually and a Prius. The number of miles remaining or % fuel remaining at the end of a trip is not an indicator of efficiency. I think the best way would be to measure the kilowatt hours being used when you recharge both cars at the end of the trip.

Love the real world testing. Can’t wait to see how the winter impacts these cars. Oh, and Roman, doesn’t the Leaf have a hands-free mode for the phone? We want you around for years more of great TFL!

Get a 50 amp nema 14-50 dryer outlet installed in your garage so you can charge faster. That 24 hour charge time you got is brutal.

It was interesting to see that Tesla takes elevation into consideration when calculating future battery consumption.

Hi Tommy, There is a function in the navagation setting that says "Auto Lane Change".

this remind me coming to Denver in 2019. Colorado road trips are very scenic and I recommend everyone to go there at least once driving the mountains on the back road. SUV is a must

Nissan is the only dealer that will take the 5000 off the top of the price of the car for the CO credit and you just sign it over to them that is a HUGE boon for them

Tip: Also don’t need to push the cover on the charging port, the charging dongle has a button, press that and the port will open.

Good vid, quite enjoyable and informative. 👍

Great video, good analysis by both of you, loved it.Thanks

I think the Nissan did great. For $37K (minus $7,500 tax credit) you get 200+AER in a five door roomy vehicle. There are charge points throughout the route so, no range anxiety. Great to see options - the more options the better

informative and well presented by intelligent, pleasant 'every-day' guys :) - wish I could afford a Tesla...the Leaf has jumped forward from previous model

8-bit sound track portion was great! Father-son combo is always a pleasure. I've got a power wagon and don't care about teslas lol but love watching your reviews

My take away was that for a huge price difference, i could get the same range.

Great video, guys! Real world and interesting comparison. Both cars actually did better than expected, quite amazing considering the difficult mountain conditions. Where's your 240v charger? Should only take 7-8 hours to charge so in the morning you're good to go for a full day of driving again.

Check if auto Lane change I'd enabled and also used the full turn signal. It seemed you were using the light push vs full push signal. You want to use full push for continuous signal and give it time.

One of the most informative videos ever considering range anxiety is a factor for someone that has never experienced an electric vehicle

I have new 40kWh Leaf (150miles) and when I drive from Denver to Loveland Pass I have 25-30% on top and then I can go back to Denver

The only time I bring a wall charger with me is never in my e-Golf... You don't need it. You stop at a public charger that charges 4-20X faster. 😉

Based on their mileage and starting/ending percentages here are their respective (rough) efficiency numbers: 3.5 miles/kWh for the Leaf and 4.3 miles/kWh for the Tesla

Best part of the video “Hey wanna do a drag race?” “NO!” 😆

That was really fun! I was right there with you on the range anxiety, but that charge time... So, 110V? Still, pretty amazing tech. That was a great test and I'm really surprised the leaf did that well. How about comfort? Pretty close on that too? F

Tesla changed all of the prices on model 3 now and Autopilot is included in the price now. In case you all hadn't heard yet. They basically added most of the AP price to the base price of the car.

Great test guys but the drivers stayed the same and only the videographer switched from one car to another, since DAD is heavier than Tommy... approximately (50lb) switching drivers was necessary as well, but overall great work, love you guys!

This has got to be my favorite video clip of your channel!

Love seeeing colorado in your videos. I have to get out there. Great job guys

What was the Watt Hours per mile used by each of the cars? This is really their MPG.

When you enter a trip in navigate on the tesla. In will tell you the percentage of the battery on arrival, if you drag the list down it will tell the round trip percentage.

I have been a Leaf driver for 7 years and just upgraded to the Leaf Plus. My only negative comment is the failure to use ECO mode. If you are optimizing both vehicles, it should be best configuration. You have decided to compare apples to oranges. Other than that, keeping the two together the whole trip kept speeds and acceleration pretty much identical. Overall great job. Side note: I drive in the Greater Washington DC Metropolitan Area, occasionally going up to Baltimore and down to Richmond. The Leaf Plus provides more than enough range for round trip both ways.

Glad I stumbled across this comparison from 4 years ago. I purchased a used LEAF SL Plus a couple months ago that is the same year make and model as the one you tested here. Only difference I see is mine is blue ( better looking, LOL). The original sticker says $43,000 + and it has all the same SL features as the one you drove. I picked it up at a Nissan dealership 5 hours from me because it is an SL PLUS and it only had 6,950 miles on it and was a Nissan Certified used car which qualifies it for the Nissan warranty. I paid $26,888 for it and opted for a 54 month bumper to bumper Nissan warranty for just under $3K more since it is my first experience with an electric car. That amount of money back when I was looking would have been for a Tesla with 40 to 60K on it from what I was seeing on dealer lots. I was not interested in a used car with that many miles but lately I had been wondering how my car compares to the Tesla. Your review answered a lot of questions I had. Thank you for that. Now that I have those questions answered I am very happy with my purchase again. ;-) Love my LEAF.

You have to have enhanced auto pilot on your Tesla in order for you to have auto lane change

At the end when they're charging the cars: On the Tesla you can open the charge port by pressing the top of the charge connector. You don't need to push on the charge door to open it. You can also open it from the control panel inside the car. Also, apparently they are charging on 120v plugs. On 240v plugs neither vehicle should take more than 6-8 hours to charge.

Did I hear correctly that you get more regen going UP hill? Hmmm..I figured it would be the opposite. Am I not understanding the concept of regen? Great video. I loved the throwing of the snow balls.

Fun video, do get a 240 Volt outlet, like the ones used by electric cloth dryers or electric ovens for your EV cars. You don't need a Tesla brand home charger 'outlet', just get a 1450 NEMA outlet, if you are near your electric panel box, it's less than $200 worth of cables , the NEMA 1450 outlet and extras. Charging using a regular outlet is super slow.

The new "autopilot" doesn't do lane change. The old "Enhanced Autopilot" or new "Full Self Driving" do lane change.

America should be proud of Tesla. What innovator can come into a market and be so much more advanced within ten years compared with a massive global heavyweight, Nissan. Props to Tesla. Gotta get me one.

Super real world, love these types of vids

Holding the phone while driving. 😂😂. Don’t do that downunder

Should always rely on % and never on mileage left

How many KWh did each vehicle use? That would be the easiest way to compare.

Love the video and the commentary! Do you think that "Chill mode" in the Tesla would be a more realistic comparison? I assume you had it in Standard or Performance with the way you jumped away from the Leaf at the stoplight. I bet you would have had a lot more juice left if you had Chill mode on.

Thank you for the most honest reviews on UKposts ✅

I’m torn between the leaf and the 3. I know what I ‘want’ but seeing if the leaf would be good enough since the price is lower. Great video for my dilemma ☺️

The model 3 has an ECO MODE it's called CHILL MODE definitely makes a big difference.

You have to turn on the change lane with indicator in autopilot settings. I had the same issue until I did that too.

Wow this is an AWESOME comparison. Thanks for this.

I have several dreams of owning a tesla for the last 4 years but still cant afford it :(

You need to buy the full self driving package if you want to change lanes ($7000 after delivery, $5000 at purchase) Autopilot only works in the lane you’re currently in

Thank you for making this informative video. It was quite interesting and entertaining. I like the fact that the Nissan resembles a gas powered car and it actually has a great deal of storage room. Saw another video where it shows that it’s quite roomy.

I see a lot of theories in the comments, but the only REAL way to determine range is to run the vehicles until they stop. Great video and editing though, and nice to see dad and son working together.

Just realized how close yall are coming to 1 million subscribers

Why are you using level 1 charging? You might as well hookup a stationary bike and start peddling to recharge that thing! Owners will have setup a proper 240v charging system, 110v is ridiculous, 24hrs, jesus christ...

Others have stated most of this in some form. Here is the quick info without all the detail: Tesla: Screen shows how much EPA range is left Leaf: Is calculating based on what you have been doing recently. Comparing, use the single motor smaller battery Tesla and you can compare with the same price! More apples to apples. Yes, Tesla, better battery tech. But the range is due to better motor tech. The electric motor is more efficient using the electricity to produce motion. Charging: People have a 240V charger installed in their garage (or a NEMA plug if they use the portable charger). Not having your charge cord with you? Why isn't it in the Tesla? You typically charge at home where your dedicated charge (wall mount) is. Keep up the good work guys! Good video, just hope you speak to a few long term owners to understand a few more details. Especially with range anxiety (like going up a hill and back down, there is no anxiety as you know you won't use much going down).

I subscribed to your channel because of your son. Nice to see a father and son working together. Fantastic content too