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Are AMD Graphics cards BAD at Ray Tracing?! This pc gaming graphics card test looks at ray tracing gameplay on the RX 7800xt pc build, vs the rtx 4070 to see amd vs nvidia!
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00:00 Is AMD BAD At Ray Tracing?
01:18 Test System Overview
01:56 Cyberpunk 2077 4K Gameplay
03:32 Cyberpunk 2077 1440P Gameplay
07:01 Returnal Gameplay
09:15 Ratchet & Clank Gameplay
10:53 Control Gameplay
12:45 Alan Wake 2 Gameplay
16:11 Testing Against The RTX 4070
19:48 Final Thoughtsh

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@PcCentric
@PcCentric Місяць тому
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@proprietarycurez8463
@proprietarycurez8463 Місяць тому
nerd
@cyberdude862004
@cyberdude862004 Місяць тому
What is your overlay tool that shows pc latency?
@phantomtec
@phantomtec Місяць тому
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@bns6288
@bns6288 Місяць тому
Gestures are important, but this hectic fidgeting makes me totally nervous
@benprins8240
@benprins8240 Місяць тому
Can you reccomend some awesome cards to pair with a Ryzen 9 5900x. Thanks
@andrewtwinam8528
@andrewtwinam8528 Місяць тому
I have a 7700xt and can't fault it. Getting over 200fps on RDR2, so I don't understand why UKposts people slate AMD.
@stonecoldkittle4664
@stonecoldkittle4664 Місяць тому
My asus tuf 6800 has been awesome for two years no big problems. 1440p over 180 fps pretty easy with some in game setting tweaks
@SDR40684
@SDR40684 Місяць тому
Love my 7700xt
@usleadershipareliars
@usleadershipareliars Місяць тому
$2.19 trillion is why
@joshschmidt8784
@joshschmidt8784 Місяць тому
I think it's for views mainly, I had been on Intel processor and Nvidia cards for 15 years before switching to all AMD. It's been a stable and fast system, providing the same performance and stability of any of my other builds. Probably be on AMD based gaming systems for the foreseeable future. I switched because the Nvidia and intel tax is getting outrageous.
@HoodrichShinobi
@HoodrichShinobi Місяць тому
isn't that game like 20 years old
@jackali5014
@jackali5014 Місяць тому
Nvidia forced me to love AMD
@BrandonCole-sc7pq
@BrandonCole-sc7pq Місяць тому
amd forced me to quit competitive shooters because of latency but whatever
@randymarsh4748
@randymarsh4748 Місяць тому
u must have done something rly wrong lmao @@BrandonCole-sc7pq
@GrainGrown
@GrainGrown Місяць тому
You're one of those who wish AMD to become good just so you could get NVIDIA for cheaper?
@jackali5014
@jackali5014 Місяць тому
@@GrainGrownNah, I bought 7900xtx
@Minurz
@Minurz Місяць тому
​@@BrandonCole-sc7pqyapping
@harukumaru
@harukumaru Місяць тому
Here in italy I couldn't find an rtx 4070 under 600€ Found a slightly used Power Color RX 7800 XT RED DEVIL at 450€ The choice was a no brainer And I'm having a great experience with it And AFMF is underrated cause it can be enabled in any game, like Elden Ring which is locked at 60, with afmf it's 120fps with around 27ms frame gen latency according to the amd software and personally I couldn't notice the difference playing with a controller. The thing that I did notice is the overall fluidity of the gameplay, it feels way better. I know there are mods to unlock it but you can't play online with them
@leagueaddict8357
@leagueaddict8357 Місяць тому
I went for the 7900 XTX, and no real problems on my side either.
@bal7ha2ar
@bal7ha2ar Місяць тому
thats actually a thing that i didnt have on my radar. using the driver level frame gen to get around fps locks, very big brain
@Saddedude
@Saddedude Місяць тому
fluid motion frames is neat tech. While still in its infancy i have been happily impressed. Helldivers 2 4k ultra i see around 120-160 fps with afmf on, fsr off on an 7900xtx
@konnorj6442
@konnorj6442 Місяць тому
AMD ftw but PC is one mfr to avoid if at all possible their warranty and CS are shit the few $ more for XFX or sapphire is worth it hands down
@bal7ha2ar
@bal7ha2ar Місяць тому
@@konnorj6442 from what ive heard power color is one of the best aib partners of amd. ive heard much worse about xfx. Sapphire is the true goat tho, they have basicly reached EVGA levles
@TheCgOrion
@TheCgOrion Місяць тому
Atm I'll always choose framerate and resolution over RT. I'll reduce upscaling also before I'll enable RT. If the game SP will hold a lock of 70 or more, I'll use RT. There's been a lot of times I chose 120 or higher, and just disabled RT, because I find the frame rate far more noticeable than the RT in almost all games, for now. This goes for my Nvidia and AMD computers (LAN in the house).
@MrNathan07
@MrNathan07 Місяць тому
Yeah I completely agree, not only the bad latency when using it but you do lose detail when upscaling vs playing it natively and I'd rather have a smoother experience personally.
@Lurch-Bot
@Lurch-Bot Місяць тому
You'll never get it locked at that framerate in Cyberpunk with RT at 1440p except maybe with a current gen flagship. The poor optimization and crappy game engine just tanks performance on most GPUs in certain areas. I've never seen bigger fps swings in any game except maybe Starfield. But who cares if the framerate drops in New Atlantis when you're just running around doing errands? The one time you have to fight in New Atlantis, framerates are much higher because they are only rendering a small part of the city and the rest of it is just blocked off. Meanwhile, if you drive through the wrong part of Night City during a high speed chase, you're just screwed.
@FantomMisfit
@FantomMisfit Місяць тому
RT is just something you use when you have alot of fps but everything else is already maxed. I certainly wouldn't sacrifice Shadow or Texture quality for it
@kennethpereyda5707
@kennethpereyda5707 Місяць тому
some of the newer games it's built in and can't turn it off
@Lurch-Bot
@Lurch-Bot Місяць тому
@@kennethpereyda5707 I have yet to find a game where RT is permanently on so if you could provide an example, that would be great. I suspect this isn't actually the case and you may have simply overlooked the option. It was enabled by default for FH5 even on a GTX1080, which actually wasn't as terrible as you might imagine... It was easy to turn it off though. Really shouldn't be running RT on a 10 series, even if it is as basic as that found in Forza and you get playable framerates. It is still eating up tons of potential rasterization performance running RT instructions in software emulation on your CUDA cores.
@danabell2709
@danabell2709 Місяць тому
I have a 7900XT. When I bother with RT it's acceptable to me but it is also the 1st thing I sacrifice if I'm looking for more frames.
@elitepauper7400
@elitepauper7400 Місяць тому
my 7900XT should arrive tomorrow. Im so excited to see what it can do. i also ordered a 7600x, 32gb 6000 cl30 ram and 3440x1440 180hz monitor. upgrading from a amd fx and gtx 960 so i bet ill be impressed regardless.
@zigga967
@zigga967 Місяць тому
@@elitepauper7400 how is it?? my pc i built (but paid to have it put together) is done passing its testing n on the way and i got the 7900xt to go with a 7800x3d
@KEROVSKI_
@KEROVSKI_ Місяць тому
7900 GRE (great option).
@theredpineapple9485
@theredpineapple9485 Місяць тому
Funny thing, the 7900 GRE is 10% more expensive than the 7800 XT, but also scales almost directly in terms of performance as well, around 5-10% better perf than the 7800 XT. So now we've got two great midrange cards within eyeshot of each other lol.
@madddog692000
@madddog692000 Місяць тому
Just got a Powercolor Hellhound last week. 13700k and this card is a lethal combo. Does everything I ask of it.
@jerzy484
@jerzy484 Місяць тому
Always wondered why they named it the Golden Rabbit Edition
@Dr_cHeNGo
@Dr_cHeNGo Місяць тому
@@jerzy484I‘m still confused they didn’t named it the GBE, golden boy edition 😂
@cikaya172
@cikaya172 Місяць тому
​@@jerzy484 I think because it was initially exclusively launched at China last year, which was the year of the rabbit.
@crypto1300
@crypto1300 Місяць тому
I have a RTX 4090 and RX 7800XT. Both are great video cards and once you've found the ideal settings and start playing games, I barely notice any difference. Both play all my games insanely good, granted the 4090 does push higher fps, but if you don't put a counter on the screen and stop looking for differences, the experiences are both amazing!
@Show_FDU
@Show_FDU Місяць тому
Same with the 4080 super vs the 7800XT. Turn off the counter you can’t tell the difference
@bsgjj423
@bsgjj423 Місяць тому
In 4k you’ll tell the difference lmao
@crypto1300
@crypto1300 Місяць тому
@bsgjj423 Yes, true. But I play at 1440p 165Hz.
@jeremyg2236
@jeremyg2236 Місяць тому
hi, is there any reason why you picked 7800xt over 4070 super?
@BlueNish12
@BlueNish12 Місяць тому
8k is way better to spot differences ​@@bsgjj423 😂😂
@Sunderphon
@Sunderphon Місяць тому
I have a 7900XT it can do RT: Medium on Cyberpunk on max settings at a steady frame rate.
@Lodorn
@Lodorn Місяць тому
I think it would be more helpful to include resolution and a ballpark of where your fps are. Because your comment could mean steady 10 fps at 1080p...
@ValkisCalmor
@ValkisCalmor Місяць тому
​@@Lodorn Personally I played it on 1440p RT Ultra with FSR Quality, averaged around 75fps. I'm not at my PC to test right now buy getting around the same with Medium RT and no FSR sounds right to me.
@TheSometimeAfter
@TheSometimeAfter Місяць тому
"steady" can mean 30
@Lodorn
@Lodorn Місяць тому
@@TheSometimeAfter it can mean anything as long as it doesn't flactuate much
@roki977
@roki977 Місяць тому
i found cp2077 more enyoable with 100 plus fps on high refresh screen than with 50fps and rt.. Just look at top games everybody is playing these days like Helldivers, Palworld, Baldur's Gate 3, online shooters and RT is nowhere to be found or always off in best case. I own 240hz screen, RT is secondary thing for me, fps destroyer..
@r3tep978
@r3tep978 Місяць тому
I have just bought the 7800 xt for my first pc, moving from Xbox series s, and I cannot believe how good these settings look, it is amazing.
@user-cl6uf6bq2u
@user-cl6uf6bq2u Місяць тому
Bro about to do the same, have you tried apex legend or cod ? I take it you’re doing 1440p what kind of fps are you getting ?
@66kaisersoza
@66kaisersoza Місяць тому
You won't go back 😄
@dalehammers4425
@dalehammers4425 Місяць тому
There is a reason for the saying "PC master race". Consoles have their advantages, but they cant remotely compete with an actual PC for gaming still.
@dianaalyssa8726
@dianaalyssa8726 Місяць тому
Have a 7800XT OC and 7900XTX Merc 310. Pricing been the main selling point and game bundles helped.
@SimplySora_
@SimplySora_ Місяць тому
Granted I have a 7900 XTX, but every game with ray tracing that I've played has performed well enough to the point where I can turn it on and not think "dang I wish I had something better"
@RyuuShiro1
@RyuuShiro1 Місяць тому
Thats been my experience on my 7900xtx as well.
@instagramaccount96
@instagramaccount96 Місяць тому
Which resolution do you two play on?
@SimplySora_
@SimplySora_ Місяць тому
@@instagramaccount96 1440p because 4K is stupid for desktop monitor gaming.
@RyuuShiro1
@RyuuShiro1 Місяць тому
@@instagramaccount96 I normally do 1440p.
@busetgadapet
@busetgadapet Місяць тому
coping
@MeTaFrEaKo
@MeTaFrEaKo Місяць тому
RT still feels like a horrible tradeoff for me. Too costly and the graphic differences doesn't feel that ground breaking.
@wolfwilkopter2231
@wolfwilkopter2231 Місяць тому
Mostly due to poor implementation, to make it fit to consoles, which are often much weaker in the graphics department. Most of the Games shown, had no real RT GI goin, just a few handpicked features, like RT shadows or reflections, also i dont think that he turned Nvidia Reflex on, when testing the 4070, as this brings latency down almost to native levels when using FG and you dont insult an Nvidia GPU with bad FSR, but use DLSS. Also due to the aforementioned reasons, the difference between, over decades used and improved, but time and spaceconsuming techniques, like baked in lightmaps and well done SSR and co, the differences can appear to be small, due to all the trickery involved. While RT with Global illumination and all other Features active, dont use trickery, but real time lighting, which has real light sources, bounces, shadows, occlusion and reflections going for it... And dont get me started on Full Raytracing aka Pathtracing... Having that done in Real Time is a feature that is the future, as nothing comes near it, but it costs dearly yes... But is used in film and photo for decades, just rendered frame by frame on big renderfarms instead on one single GPU in real time. I for once, wont be playing Cyberpunk without RT Ultra and Ray-Reconstruction anymore (5800X3D at 1440P), it just looks so good! The only limit being my 3080 12Gb, preventing me from using PT without having to resort to DLSS "Performance" which isnt recommended to be used, as it introduces heavy ghosting and downgrades renderresolution drastically and introducing heavy artifacting...but RTX5K is coming so...^^
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay 9 днів тому
I can't believe they based this entire video off of a feature that most people keep off. Lol.
@MaZEEZaM
@MaZEEZaM Місяць тому
Really Great video as always. Thanks for naming the games you played, not all reviewers do.
@trizzy2526
@trizzy2526 Місяць тому
Will there be a Video soon about the RX 7900 GRE?
@derekbrackett1622
@derekbrackett1622 Місяць тому
My 7900xt is a beast. I came from a 2060. On Cyberpunk with rx enabled it does more than 100fps @1440p as long as you don't enable ALL rx features. super happy with my experience
@Kingswtech
@Kingswtech Місяць тому
Yes that’s my next 💪🏾
@TheAtkinson118
@TheAtkinson118 Місяць тому
I have a 7900 XTX with 5000x3D...Now let me tell you a quick story! Always a 1440p gamer and it's the sweet spot and still is..I had a RTX 4070TI.. But this card (the 7900XTX)..Has let me make the jump to 4k gaming with no performance hit what so ever(,on most games).. It Handles Ray Tracing well..(not to the point of the RTX granted).. But playing 4k and getting good frames is pretty awesome. The software is really good once you get off your backside and learn to work it out and use custom settings it opens the card up to a whole new world!! So don't believe everything you read in the forums,you sometimes need to take that leap of faith. (There are some good UKposts tutorials out there also)
@Noqtis
@Noqtis Місяць тому
AMD cards don't have B-PP, I simply can not buy a S-PP card :/
@cb123195
@cb123195 Місяць тому
Im currently in process of a 7800x3d build with the 7900xtx. Loved your recent video on it actually helped me find a way to save insyead of overspending on a cpu
@stevenjones5277
@stevenjones5277 Місяць тому
Just built my PC using the 7800x3d and the Sapphire 7900xtx Nito+ 🤟
@cb123195
@cb123195 Місяць тому
Glad its working great. It will be my 3rd pc went from a msi laptop to my current pc i traded from a friend. This will be my first build an Definitely nervous. ​@stevenjones5277
@jerzy484
@jerzy484 Місяць тому
I'm waiting for the new Ryzen 7 9800X3D coming this year to pair with my 7900XT
@l2icardo888
@l2icardo888 Місяць тому
Just built my first pc using 7800x3d and power color hellhound 7900 xtx and loving the experience so far. Playing cyberpunk and rdr 2 the way I want to has been dream come true
@vigilant_1934
@vigilant_1934 Місяць тому
@@jerzy484I highly doubt Zen 5 X3D chips will come out this year. Regular Zen 5 CPUs will come out first, then you have to wait for other versions after AMD has sold plenty of the first ones. Zen 4 came out September 2022, and Zen 4 X3D came out March and April 2023. That's 6-7 months after the initial launch. An RX 7900XT isn't fast enough for the 7800X3D to bottleneck it so waiting for a slightly faster CPU probably isn't going to make a noticeable difference. Edit: Either way, don't expect a next gen X3D CPU to come out for at least a full year from now.
@sickosnake2673
@sickosnake2673 Місяць тому
7800xt gets me 85fps on Cyberpunk 2077 Raytracing Ultra FSR3 mod Performance Mode.
@justinglotzbach
@justinglotzbach Місяць тому
What resolution?
@rowanhorsley761
@rowanhorsley761 Місяць тому
Raytracing you need a high end graphics cards. Next gen will be better with DDR7 with larger bus width
@lilpain1997
@lilpain1997 Місяць тому
Thats not good... At all. If you are using frame gen mod you are like 40+ FPS tops... With upscaling on as well.
@vigilant_1934
@vigilant_1934 Місяць тому
@@rowanhorsley761 The ray tracing accelerators are what need improvement. GDDR7 by itself won't be enough and not every next gen GPU will even have it. RDNA 4 won't for example but AMD also isn't going for a high end card for that generation (that's for RDNA 5). The 5090 might have GDDR7 but idk yet.
@Nerdiness1985
@Nerdiness1985 Місяць тому
Turn Raytracing off, and then your FPS will be so good you could easily crank up so many more useful settings. Come on mate, I have an RX 6800 16GB. No need to cripple your FPS.
@jakobw135
@jakobw135 Місяць тому
Well done video, mate! What computer case and input fans are you using? ☺️
@DigitalChillz
@DigitalChillz Місяць тому
Love ur vids and im in the states, Love my new AMD 7800xt. Got the Merc edition from best buy, Havent noticed a hiccup from my 3060ti...In fact im newer to pc and i was able to put together a whole AMD system. 7800X3D cpu, and 7800xt Gpu. RT is not a huge priority on my list. only few few games u really care about RT
@johnnyjets2343
@johnnyjets2343 Місяць тому
I'm thinking of going a similar build. Debating between the 7800xt or 4070 for 1440p gaming.
@brexy9984
@brexy9984 Місяць тому
@@johnnyjets23437800 xt is better future proofing, especially if you play at 1440p
@TheLongWind
@TheLongWind Місяць тому
​@@johnnyjets2343 Go 4070 Super or 7800XT. Skip the 4070.
@TheLongWind
@TheLongWind Місяць тому
You upgraded from a 3060TI to a 7800xt?
@tednicholl7025
@tednicholl7025 Місяць тому
I just did that very same thing with my i7 13700k. I had a 3060Ti 8GB and go ta great deal on the PowerColor Red Devil Limited Edition RX 7800 XT 16GB and I'm thrilled! It' s certainly in a whole new class and I's ecstatic with the framerates! Being a Sim Racer framerates count and as much as nVidia has done with Ray Tracing, AMD does a really good job at their iteration of Ray Tracing. Not all cards are equal which is why we have so many variants to choose from but I wouldn't trade the extra VRAM for better Ray Tracing, not a chance!✌
@incaseofemergency6051
@incaseofemergency6051 Місяць тому
There could possibly be a situation where I am willing to take the hit on performance for using Ray Tracing. So far, I have not found it.
@ktvx.94
@ktvx.94 Місяць тому
Don't forget heat and power consumption. It's painful to see consumption skyrocket the moment I turn on RT. I usually avoid it, in most games it really doesn't make a justifiable difference.
@silfrido1768
@silfrido1768 Місяць тому
for me I don’t like their drivers They are still on old gpu architecture the deal breaker was the amount of bloat you get when downloading drivers. Even when you strip the driver it’s still bad. Ontop of that I was getting 8.0ms of delay compared to 0.78delay on Nvidia.
@PineyJustice
@PineyJustice Місяць тому
@@silfrido1768 RDNA3 is not an old architecture, it's the first chiplet gpu in the world. RDNA as a series is only 4 years old, 2 and 3 are new generations of it. What bloat, adrenaline is awesome software that can handle a ton of functionality that requires dozens of programs with nvidia, it also adds no overhead, there is no performance difference with it installed vs removed. There are no latency differences between brands, are you talking about the low latency modes? Because AMD has that too.
@Jay-mx5ky
@Jay-mx5ky Місяць тому
​@silfrido1768 the bloat you get when downloading amd drivers? Amd adrenalin driver software has been the one thing consistently better than nvidia. Nvidia is just catching up with the Nvidia app, and GeForce experience was real bloatware
@silfrido1768
@silfrido1768 Місяць тому
@@Jay-mx5ky I don’t stream so I never used GeForce experience. I always strip the driver & only use hdmi component & the driver component.
@primegamer321
@primegamer321 Місяць тому
@@silfrido1768just use minimal install then? otherwise you are just biased beyond belief
@GRNbuilder925
@GRNbuilder925 Місяць тому
I got one two weeks ago, testing it still. Trying to figure out my best settings.
@peterpeter5666
@peterpeter5666 Місяць тому
the problem with raytracing its a niche setting that requires a very expensive monitor and thats if the game ur playing supports it. I bought a 7900 xtx which was cheaper than 4070 ti at the time i bought it
@user-xn7hw7we8g
@user-xn7hw7we8g Місяць тому
while a 7700x and 7900xtx system is a lot more high end than what was shown here, I can raytracing ultra at 1440p with cyperpunk and get 65 to 80 fps
@v2k530
@v2k530 Місяць тому
after owning a 7800xt with a ryzen 5 7600x my first and biggest concern was the systems stability. I did run into some stability issues at first which is understandable since it was a new product at the time but after a few months and driver updates I've rarely had any stability issues since then and the framerate is good with 99% of games @1440p resolution and so far it's been a pretty good setup for me.
@badtrunks
@badtrunks Місяць тому
Thats what I am running right now, I built it two weeks ago. I still havent tinkered with amd adrenalin to find good settings. You mind sharing any settings you run ?
@v2k530
@v2k530 Місяць тому
@@badtrunks I’ve only changed the recording keybinds, for OC I leave it stock on the gpu and cpu just to be safe.
@jerzy484
@jerzy484 Місяць тому
​@@badtrunks What I do with my 7900XT is I undervolt it to around 1070 first and then increase VRAM speed to 2700 and Clock speed to 3010 and adjust my fan curve to the temperature. Also always add +15% power limit too.
@badtrunks
@badtrunks Місяць тому
@@jerzy484 Undervolting! I need to do that. Increasing VRAM speed and clock speed, is that considering overclocking ? or is it seperate from the general overclocking, undervolting and stock configuration? How is the uplift in performance when increasing VRAM and clock speed?
@vigilant_1934
@vigilant_1934 Місяць тому
@@badtrunks Check out Ancient Gameplays. He shows people how to adjust GPU settings in Adrenalin software. He's the reason my 6700XT doesn't use more than about 180 watts in any game (still using my trusty 550 watt Seasonic Focus GX PSU from my first build and haven't upgraded it yet). I undervolted, increased memory speed and min. and max GPU clocks and power limit which ultimately makes it use less wattage than stock.
@dannyb5292
@dannyb5292 Місяць тому
Do you ever sell these pcs you build? If so I would be interested I’m in the uk
@dennisdoherty4791
@dennisdoherty4791 Місяць тому
Helpful hint. I recent played through Metro Exodus and Control on Radeon. You can mod in FSR2.2 into both games. I played at 1440p, and with FSR and VSR combined, the games looked spectacular while running very well.
@Snakejaguar.
@Snakejaguar. Місяць тому
I was waiting for someone to make a video like this 👍
@idkwhattohaveasausername5828
@idkwhattohaveasausername5828 Місяць тому
My 7800XT & 7800x3d has been kicking ass. Helldivers runs awful on my pc though, which is weird because cyberpunk at ultra runs at an average of 133 fps but helldivers runs at barely 70-80.
@Copiumgold
@Copiumgold Місяць тому
I'm running 7800 xt with a 5600x and hitting 160 fps at 1440p, full screen and vsync off was a big difference for me
@jadenmiller1004
@jadenmiller1004 Місяць тому
@@CopiumgoldI’m glad to hear it’s running well cause I was thinking about upgrading from my 3060 ti 8 GB to the 7800xt with the same cpu as yours
@hollyh888
@hollyh888 Місяць тому
helldivers has some issues on rx 7000 cards. make sure you have the latest bios
@KonglomeratYT
@KonglomeratYT Місяць тому
I get told that I am picky for mentioning that 120 is better than 60. Now I've met someone that thinks 70-80 is "awful". I feel emboldened. Let's raise the standard XD
@tackyinbention6248
@tackyinbention6248 Місяць тому
I just got a 7800xt for my first build and it does everything really well at 1440p. I managed to get a reference model too and I love it
@CharlesMacro
@CharlesMacro Місяць тому
I need to know about productivity. I edit video in Davinci Resolve. How is it running image generators?
@MrNathan07
@MrNathan07 Місяць тому
I still prefer to play on native with no upscaling no matter the resolution, higher frame rates, lower latency, and no loss of detail with native is why I do prefer rasterization overall.
@diablosv36
@diablosv36 Місяць тому
You can use framegen in every game on the 7800xt due to the driver implementation switch in the Adrenaline software, so you could probably push some smoother frame with RT in some of these games.
@JustSkram
@JustSkram Місяць тому
It can cause bugs depending on the game. For example in 2077 it causes HUD and text blur
@diablosv36
@diablosv36 Місяць тому
Yes, but usually it is minor@@JustSkram
@patrickschannel7541
@patrickschannel7541 Місяць тому
Hi I have a question aio liquid cooler that have thermo paste on them is it better to add more on the cpu of what ever is on the aio liquid cooler is enough?
@PcCentric
@PcCentric Місяць тому
Pre applied is the right amount
@bmn42012
@bmn42012 Місяць тому
RT on my 7900 XTX is absolutely fine I have no issue with low framerates in ANY game I play RT maxed no FSR 1440p
@kingjay9018
@kingjay9018 Місяць тому
In all actuality the 7900xt is beating out a 4070 ti super. I have an 7900xt running 1440p
@stigero
@stigero Місяць тому
im afraid it doesnt. 4070 ti s is cheaper and faster. :)
@dacbiet
@dacbiet Місяць тому
@@stigero??? The 7900xt is 699 while the 4070 ti super is like 800
@adk4986
@adk4986 Місяць тому
​@@stigero the 4070 ti is litteraly more expensive
@stigero
@stigero Місяць тому
@@dacbiet okay, weird, they are almost the same price for me. And the performancedifference is big in nvidias favour.
@Pubcrawler644
@Pubcrawler644 Місяць тому
For content creators/streamers, is Nivida still king? Not to bothered about ray tracing, just want to be able to stream in 1440p, use OBS without encoder issues, and edit on davinci resolve
@FullFledged2010
@FullFledged2010 Місяць тому
7900xt owner here. Bought it for sim racing/triple 1440p setup and its doing an awesome job at that. VR was crap in the beginning but now that they fixed the drivers it handles my reverb g2 like its not even there👍👍
@jamesbailey8449
@jamesbailey8449 Місяць тому
I recently switched from nvidia to an sapphire nitro + 7900xt and have benn super happy with it. I do use some Ray tracing in Alan wake 2 and cyberpunk without any issues, way over 60fps at 1440p.
@z.man0446
@z.man0446 Місяць тому
i own a 7900xt and get awesome performance at 3440x1440p. I went from 90fps average to 60fps with raytracing. only issue is i had to use fsr2 to reach that and it made the game look bad. Love this card because of the price but for sure recommend turning off raytracing and enjoy your native gameplay with high fps. Also that 20gb of vram is huge for this resolution
@TheL4r5
@TheL4r5 Місяць тому
y but what is the usage of 20GB ? no game in this world needs that much not if ur only gaming... Id rather get only 12 or 16GB with DLSS and a way better graphic including RT than a bit of RT with fsr2 and an way worse picture over all
@z.man0446
@z.man0446 Місяць тому
@@TheL4r5 I’ve played games that will use exactly 16gb of the vram so even tho it didn’t hit 20gb I still wanna make sure that games in the future that will use more than 16 can be very playable on my system. Nvidia would be awesome to have in terms of dlss and ray tracing but I don’t think the pure performance and price is worth sacrificing to have a little bit better picture quality now. Just some future proofing that I want plus a super good price on the gpu compared to the 4070ti super
@fjacob89
@fjacob89 Місяць тому
​@TheL4r5 This is a niche situation, but super high-resolution texture mods can use up that ram. Specifically, I'm using 19GB of vram in cyberpunk with the 4k texture pack.
@NL_Python
@NL_Python Місяць тому
If you’re hoping and praying that games in the near future don’t get as intensive as Alan Wake and Cyberpunk, which eat the 4090 alive even with raytracing off. If I wanted to game at 4K 60fps, I’d buy a Series X. Let’s just say I feel a little stupid for buying an Odyssey G8 when even the 5090 probably won’t even be able to push it to its limits, at least my monitor is future proofed, but these graphics cards definitely are not. Not for a Native 4K 120+fps snob like myself lmao. I have a 4090 and I doubt I’ll buy another graphics card until we see 4K Native 120fps 1% Lows. I’ll bite the bullet and use DLSS or lower my settings until then
@z.man0446
@z.man0446 Місяць тому
@@NL_Python don’t get me wrong things will always end up outdated and bad at some point. It’s just that for the money the 7900xt is gonna last me a long time with 1440p UW. I’m upgrading from a 3060ti and yes I do absolutely miss dlss but it is what it is lol it’ll end up lasting longer. Wish I had that 4090 but they cost as much as my whole pc😫
@therealtarmacc
@therealtarmacc Місяць тому
I think on its own, it will perform incredibly well at ray tracing, but may be slightly worse when compared to the high end nvidia cards
@slite3276
@slite3276 Місяць тому
As an owner of a 4070 ti super, rt is cool and all but its either a turn it on and look at it for an hour feature, or a bring your friends over and get them to look at thoes reflections (cyberpunk,witcher 3, alan wake 2) for the flex. Its honestly not THAT worth it. Still cool to be able to do though😂
@therealtarmacc
@therealtarmacc Місяць тому
@@slite3276lmao fair, but i cant say i relate. (radeon 8 integrated gfx ftw lol)
@Dempig
@Dempig Місяць тому
@@slite3276 I mean the 4070 ti super is far too weak for RT. The 4090 is literally the only card worth using RT on, and only at 1440p. Its still too weak for 4k rt.
@slite3276
@slite3276 Місяць тому
@@Dempig i mean with NATIVE 1440p/4k? Yes… but tbh dlss on quality and im chillin on alan wake 2 ultra settings (rt ultra/ pathtracing high) at 60-80 fps at 1440p… frame gen can bump it up to 100-120 area. And tbh i see very very little difference in native and dlss quality sooo
@Dempig
@Dempig Місяць тому
@@slite3276 I dunno man dlss looks bad to me even at 4k quality, but if you dont mind then might as well use it. I vastly prefer native 4k, so unfortunately I cant really use rt. DLSS just looks very bad and soft to me.
@Rustydude2030
@Rustydude2030 Місяць тому
what telemetry are you using? doesn't look like MSI afterburner and not aware of the latency counter in afterburner either...
@michaelfalabella6296
@michaelfalabella6296 Місяць тому
use the AMD Adrenaline software to get the metrics and use anti-lag, aswell as sharpening and fluid motion frames :o
@morgan79737
@morgan79737 Місяць тому
I have a RX 7800XT 16GB by SAPPHIRE and Ray-tracing is pretty middling for me, same with resolution scaling.
@user-lz8gf7dg9z
@user-lz8gf7dg9z Місяць тому
me too pulse version,happy gaming mate
@jordanlok365
@jordanlok365 Місяць тому
from 2060 to 7900 xtx :)
@SeeJayPlayGames
@SeeJayPlayGames Місяць тому
how are you measuring latency? I looked into Afterburner's list of monitoring categories and didn't find it... would it be "frametime?"
@mattjvideos3663
@mattjvideos3663 Місяць тому
I've got the rx 7900xtx and it's really good but I just got samsung odyssey g9 57inch and I get about 60 to 80fps in games so can't wait for new amd gpus
@micienz
@micienz Місяць тому
There's 7900GRE now 7700xt even less compelling and 7800xt is kinda hard to choose if price kinda close (this happen in my country their price just differ in silver amount and over build gpu lower 7700xt might cost same or more than the msrp 7800xt and now mid 7800xt cost the same with msrp 7900GRE) kinda in a weird position NGL 😅
@tackyinbention6248
@tackyinbention6248 Місяць тому
7700xt value might actually be region dependent cus in different markets, the price diff between the 7700 and the 7800 is more than 50 bucks which might make the 7700 more worth it in some regions
@Sent2Strike
@Sent2Strike 28 днів тому
Hey mate what’s the overlay your using for the latency metrics?
@cyber_hacker
@cyber_hacker Місяць тому
seeing that case reminds me of long ago, once had a pc case which had a fan of around 30cm(2 times as big as the fans in that case in the video) to 40 cm on top. it was insanley silent since it could spin at low speeds yet it would move insane amounts of air and so keep everything super cool could do overclocking with m ore than 1gh on all 4 cores(which back then was around half of the default max frequency), while it was only passively aircooled, so the aircooler didn't even have a fan on it, just worked due to the insane airflow of that pc case, also 1ghz was the most I tried, since by the point I tried to push it that far the motherboard already was that old that it became unstable, I didn't go beyond that more out of fear or destroying the motherboard since the cpu itself would only get just over 30 to 40 degrees celcius which is around 10 to 20 degrees above ambient temperature. that was also while the PC actually had 2 high end GPU's in it in crossfire. the case was also shaped speciffically for such airflow since it would litterally become wider and round on the top. sold that pc for kind of okay price for the hardware in it, but still often regret having sold it, not because of the hardware but only because of the case it was in since it turns out such cases are now impossible to find anywhere and noone makes such cases anymore. sold the pc for around €160 to €200 which back then was pretty little even for the hardware and concidering the motherboard wasn't as stable anymore, since that was around the secondhand value of those 2 gpu's in it, and back then looking at the secondhand market most stuff was much much much slower, much more expensive, and then next to that also often still unstable.
@masondoetv
@masondoetv Місяць тому
You should do the 7900 xtx
@edwardshepherd9684
@edwardshepherd9684 Місяць тому
I agree do the same testing with a 7900xtx
@edgarvoneverec2544
@edgarvoneverec2544 Місяць тому
I have a 7900xtx doing 1440p max settings with fsr quality and medium ray tracing, solid 60fps but once I set high on ray tracing I noticed it went down to 50fps in dogtown.
@HELL_HOUND13
@HELL_HOUND13 Місяць тому
i try not getting caught up with numbers, i mainly just keep an eye on my cpu /gpu temps maybe the utilizations as well. if my gaming experience is smooth then I'm happy. -Running on a ryzen 5600X with a 7800xt with 32 DDR4 @ 3600 speed. planning on stretching the lifespan of my am4 platform by 3 more years with dropping a 5800x3D very soon.
@evilleader1991
@evilleader1991 Місяць тому
ofc u wont see much dip in titles that are console ports since their RT implementation is on the lighter side. in Control you said you are running 1440p but when you go to settings it shows 4k.
@Usersf134ssk
@Usersf134ssk Місяць тому
My sister is trying to snatch my 5600xt so I might get the 7800xt for an upgrade. Not following pc hardware space these past couple of years, will there be a new gpu launch for amd and nvidia this year that I should wait?
@HazardRiot
@HazardRiot Місяць тому
raytracing should be a great experience if it's low, especially with rx 7000 series
@DwaynedaGamer
@DwaynedaGamer Місяць тому
Misinformation. Frame generation saves nvidia. With both at their full potential, manual overclock, and frame generation enabled. The 7800xt is equally as good as the 4070 at Ray tracing. It is even better at higher resolution because it does not run out of vram. I've compared both. At 1440p they are about the same. The 7800xt outperforms it at 4k and higher, upscaled obviously. I have receipts.
@daedalus6433
@daedalus6433 Місяць тому
@@DwaynedaGamer Yeah, frame generation is ass
@smoothkebab
@smoothkebab Місяць тому
@@DwaynedaGamer no it actually isnt. 4070 is bettter at rt. check daniel owens comparision
@DwaynedaGamer
@DwaynedaGamer Місяць тому
@@daedalus6433 I think it has it's uses, but also drawbacks. The fact is , Nvidia has been using it as their marketing ploy in there efforts to convince people that their GPUs are good at ray tracing. AMD is definitely not a long way behind, especially if you take into account that Nvidia has a generation head start.
@DwaynedaGamer
@DwaynedaGamer Місяць тому
@@smoothkebab I don't think you read properly what I said. Frame generation saves the 4070. If you apply the same technique on the 7800xt, which can be done with the fsr3 Mod, and with both manually overclocked. The 7800xt outperforms the 4070 overall. At 1440p they are similar performance. At higher resolutions, the 7800xt outperforms it because it does not run out of vram. Forget about Daniel Owen, he doesn't oc his cards nor does he use the fsr3 mod to give an idea of the potential performance boost that AMD cards are missing.
@EraserNZ
@EraserNZ Місяць тому
personally i buy nvidia for dlss not RT
@FantomMisfit
@FantomMisfit Місяць тому
Well DLSS unlike RT actually is useful....
@hollyh888
@hollyh888 Місяць тому
i personally wouldnt do that. fsr is fine at 1440p i went from a dlss card to an fsr card and ive yet to be dissapointed in visuals as long as it isnt the fsr1 implementation which thankfully barely any game uses these days
@SpaceRanger187
@SpaceRanger187 Місяць тому
Why do our jobs when we can DLSS
@shintsu01
@shintsu01 Місяць тому
got a 7900xtx myself and basicly you can adjust so many things to adjust the performance. I normally put 4K 120Hz as the go to setting max all out exept the Psyco settings and put dynamic resolution put low latancy on always on FPS games FPS is then between 60-120 and latency around 10ms i tend to not check FPS during gaming but the experience is great. Normally i tend to undervolt and reduce the Fan curve so that the card makes less noise so i assume i am leaving some performance on the table.
@biondavis2306
@biondavis2306 29 днів тому
Hi I'm looking at Getting this graphic card please tell me if I play on a TV4k with hdmi 2.1 and 144hz does that mean I can play at 4k 120 fps +- in game mode? Please help 🙏🏻
@aelaan12
@aelaan12 Місяць тому
I am getting ~ 194 FPS at 4k in Nightingale and that is all I care about right now
@kiansnouffer422
@kiansnouffer422 Місяць тому
I know from experience that the Radeon cards are beyond worth it. I’ve had several of the last 3 gen of cards and i settled on a 6950xt for now. It does everything i need and does it better than i need, i play 144fps 1440p and even with medium rtx on some games (only time i use it at all) it gives me great image. Mostly don’t care about RTX anyway so its even better
@kiansnouffer422
@kiansnouffer422 Місяць тому
Previous card before that was a 3070ti and needless to say the 6950 was a masssive upgrade because the 370ti couldn’t handle ultra setting of any game at 1440p rtx or not
@eduardogonzalez6331
@eduardogonzalez6331 Місяць тому
I have a question and wondering if you can help. Is it better to run two sticks of ram with 64gb with xmp or 4 sticks of ram that equal 64gb ddr5
@MrAnimescrazy
@MrAnimescrazy Місяць тому
I went with my first all white high end build last year with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 in the white phanteks nv7 case. The pc is a beast and I clean it once a month.
@TheIndulgers
@TheIndulgers Місяць тому
I have yet to see a game where enabling RT is a net benefit. The hit to performance is too drastic, and arguably doesn’t look any better - just different.
@JordanJ01
@JordanJ01 Місяць тому
Yeah, real time lighting/reflections makes no difference to image quality! /s Cope harder.
@TheMrRadish
@TheMrRadish Місяць тому
@@JordanJ01 he said it isn't net positive, not that it doesnt make a difference. It eats a lot of fps, and sometimes when the quality of RT is low it can look worse than rasterized version of the image.
@morgueblack
@morgueblack Місяць тому
​@@JordanJ01pay a company $5000 more dollars just to have better reflections? Yeah I'd be pretty upset too if other people enjoyed gaming by paying less. 😂
@JordanJ01
@JordanJ01 Місяць тому
@@TheMrRadish Sounds like a complicated way to say "I can't afford a GPU that can actually use ray-tracing at playable frame-rates" If you think path-traced quality can be achieved with rasterization, you are delusional and obviously don't understand how ray-casting works.
@TheMrRadish
@TheMrRadish Місяць тому
@@JordanJ01 at the time no one can, because to properly use ray tracing without annoing artifacts you would need a GPU more powerful than 4090. At low light with dlss quality on 4k you can still see a lot of smearing (and when using Ray Reconstruction oil painitng look) which is not present with rasterization even on lower resolution. It is also more blurry overall. If you value lighting more than clarity of the image then it may be worth it- but some people want to enjoy clean image with a lot higher framerates.
@TheEmrickman
@TheEmrickman Місяць тому
I have the same setup with the sapphire xt card. I’ll try it out
@volkatrongaming5332
@volkatrongaming5332 Місяць тому
I had a 3080 10 gig, and I just upgraded to a 7800xt oc. I couldn’t have asked for a better card. I have my settings on max (including ray tracing) for COD, but with some upscaling for resolution, and I do about 220-230 fps average at 1440p. This card maxed out OW2, the finals, palworld, and many more; while still providing great fps and detail in single player games like Hogwarts Legacy. Couldn’t have asked for a better card to pair with my 13700K.
@UbanGerd
@UbanGerd Місяць тому
When it comes to efficiency people tend to trash amd. My xtx out of the box likes to draw 400w which is insane in comparision to a 4080. But tuned the card will not draw above 300w while maintaining out of the box performance. I also didn´t have a single driver issue. Since the last driver update the card draws about 15-20w less on youtube. Just wanted to leave that on here.
@TheCgOrion
@TheCgOrion Місяць тому
Just curious, would you mind sharing your settings for your XTX? I know you can't generally use the same settings. I have a small memory OC on my XTX, and a custom fan curve, but I didn't know if I wanted to change power or voltage. It's very quiet now, but I use frame caps, which helps a lot.
@UbanGerd
@UbanGerd Місяць тому
min 2400mhz/max 2700mhz 1080mv pwr at +15% and vram at 2650mz @@TheCgOrion
@UbanGerd
@UbanGerd Місяць тому
Idk, seems like my comment got deleted or something. My settings are min 2400, max 2700, 1080mv, +15%pwr and 2650 memory. @@TheCgOrion
@TheCgOrion
@TheCgOrion Місяць тому
@@UbanGerd Oh OK. You limited the upper range a little. Do you notice much of a difference in temp or power draw from using the 2400Mhz minimum? Thanks Btw.
@UbanGerd
@UbanGerd Місяць тому
Maybe 3 degrees. But i have the red devil model which is very beefy. When i lock the frequency to 2400mhz max, the card uses about 40w less but i loose about 5 fps. @@TheCgOrion
@edwardshepherd9684
@edwardshepherd9684 Місяць тому
I have the 7800xt sapphire nitro plus and this is exactly what i do with the resolution, use 2k instead of 4k with raytracing and it works well, change the default fan curve and undervolt and overclock a little works perfectly.
@GrainGrown
@GrainGrown Місяць тому
And what do you common normie think "2k" is?
@edwardshepherd9684
@edwardshepherd9684 Місяць тому
I don’t need to think because I know, you common normie.
@GrainGrown
@GrainGrown Місяць тому
@@edwardshepherd9684 So you don't know what the K resolutions are and you're using them wrong. You must be a yankee.
@carlkidd752
@carlkidd752 Місяць тому
My grandkids now have my EVGA 1080Ti FTW3. Obviously, the 1080 has no RT capability, but I also use a 55" 4K 120hz TV as my monitor. I did not notice or miss or care that there was no RT. I play what I play because I find them fun, not for how pretty they are. I bought a PowerColor 7900XTX Hellhound when they briefly went on sale for $900. At that time, 4080s were a minimum of $300 more. I still do not bother turning on RT and with my 4K TV, do not miss it.
@FhargaZ
@FhargaZ Місяць тому
Alann wake 2 biggest difference for me was to play it in a Oled LG with HDR, that is a world appart from HDr on an IPS Monitor. Happy with the 7800xt except the sacre the first weeks because of the stupid drivers that made the system to shutdown.
@Iron-torpedo4.
@Iron-torpedo4. Місяць тому
I like turtles
@1acym460
@1acym460 Місяць тому
same
@thefurmidablecatlucky3
@thefurmidablecatlucky3 Місяць тому
but does turtles like you?
@1acym460
@1acym460 Місяць тому
@thefurmidablecatlucky3 hope he does, got that thing a giant tank to live in, costs way to much for him not to
@Fezzy976
@Fezzy976 Місяць тому
thank you for doing this video, i can't tell you how much it annoys me that people still automatically say "amd sucks at rt" and I have a 4090 so im in no way bias. AMD is currently just a little better than the 30 series in RT witht the 40 series being about 30-50% faster in RT (depending on game) and not using frame gen (which sucks by the way).
@jyelder100
@jyelder100 Місяць тому
I got my 7800xt hellhound at release and ive had no complaints, i usually play my games at ultra settings(1440p) with some ray tracing and usually get really good frames
@huidongzhou8379
@huidongzhou8379 Місяць тому
i had a sapphire 7900xtx 24gb , but i met crash all the time during PUBG and APEX. some lag also in dota2. this is a bright new GPU and bright new PC. so i returned the GPU and plan to purchase a 4080super
@xbox360J
@xbox360J Місяць тому
The same happened to me but I was having issues with the drivers after the second day of owning it. At first it was like love at first sight and I figured I go with amd this time around. I was coming from a 3080 10gb so it was a big step up. Performance wise it’s a power house and at 1440p I was getting so much more frames although the 3080 was good too but I just wanted a bit more power. Anyways I ended up returning it for my money back and got me a 4090 and went back to nvidia and I’m loving it so far hahaha I do tend to get a 4k monitor soon enough but at 1440p man the card just destroys but it’s AAAAA LLLLOOOTTTT of money for a card yeah call me crazy but it is what it is. You only live once to experience the finer things in life. ENJOY UR GAMING 🙏🏻
@jerzy484
@jerzy484 Місяць тому
Honestly i'd check if you fully uninstalled all past nvidia and display drivers as that can be the issue. I'd do that before downgrading a bit to the 4080 super.
@huidongzhou8379
@huidongzhou8379 Місяць тому
@@jerzy484 this is a new build pc . All parts bought from Amazon italy and i installed new win11 system. I believe this is not the issue. I am waiting amazon return my money and i will purchase a 4080super to have a try. I saw some video about setting in Amd gpu . But it does not work. Still crash in pubg and apex. I met some crashes alsoin civilization 6 . I guess i had no chemistry with AMD gpu. I ll change any way
@huidongzhou8379
@huidongzhou8379 Місяць тому
@@xbox360J yeah i agree. Try to have a better electronic product is always a good choice. If budget is not a serious problem.
@Ukgyt99
@Ukgyt99 Місяць тому
Can you do an AMD adrenaline software walkthrough?
@FlaMan407
@FlaMan407 Місяць тому
Ancient Gameplays has made fantastic walkthroughs for that.
@Techn9cian123
@Techn9cian123 10 днів тому
I have the 7800XT PURE and I run my games native 1440p ultra settings, no RT. I occasionally test RT just to see how it looks.
@Landocalamares
@Landocalamares Місяць тому
I have a 7900xtx so yeah software could be a bit better and sometimes I think optimisation is necessary depending on what you are doing
@dennythescar80s8
@dennythescar80s8 Місяць тому
To play games with RT on you need a RTX 4080/4080 Super or a 4090 to get good frames. Below that, just turn off RT and enjoy your games.
@akers80
@akers80 Місяць тому
Me personally.. I go with 1440p or 4k and usually very high or high settings with the low setting of RT on.. it provides nice high frame rates and it's smooth and it still looks incredible.
@vh9network
@vh9network Місяць тому
Cyberjunk 1977 ran fine on my RX 6800 XT when I played it and beat the game in 2020.
@anarchicnerd666
@anarchicnerd666 Місяць тому
Ok, so I actually have a 7900 GRE (the Sapphire Pulse model for £529) and I can tell you from experience - the idea that AMD can't do ray tracing is pure propaganda. It's an excellent card at light RT loads, lumen in UE5 and other lightweight implementations. I play at 3440 x 1440 and in Cyberpunk I can get 60 average FPS with RT reflections, RT local shadows and FSR2 enabled at quality scaling. I can get over 90 FPS in Amid Evil with RT enabled and maxed out, FSR2 quality. I get 100 FPS in Lords of the Fallen with FSR3 quality (includes framegen) and optimised settings, that includes lumen and nanite. And lastly, I get a solid 60 FPS in Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition with every Nvidia bell and whistle maxed out, including RT, and if I drop to 2560 x 1080 because Metro doesn't have FSR, I get over 100. Where it gets tricky is in ridiculous RT workloads. So RT Overdrive in Cyberpunk, Path Tracing in Alan Wake 2 etc etc. And you know what? They're just like gaming at Ultra settings - dumb and pointless. You should NEVER enable oath tracing - it looks the same or in some cases worse than rasterised, it kills your performance, it forces you to enable upscaling, it generates more artifacts and bugs and it does nothing to transform the experience. It's wasteful, vapid and pointless. Edit now I've watched the full video - yup, I was right, AMD 7000 series can do ray tracing and to say otherwise is pure propaganda. You just need to use optimised settings. Which you should be doing anyway, because you're on a PC. If you crank it up to ultra and then wonder "why does it not work" you're kinda a dumbass, and the exact kind of mark Nvidia loves with their price gouging and upselling. Just keep RT at low or medium, or tweak the settings so you're not doing stupid RT and you'll get decent framerates.
@AkaiSuzume
@AkaiSuzume Місяць тому
It's okay. I don't know why you feel compelled to justify your purchase in such a lengthy comment. Though telling people they're dumb for turning on settings that your card can't achieve does sound like copium to me.
@anarchicnerd666
@anarchicnerd666 Місяць тому
@@AkaiSuzumenot really. your comment kinda reads *tell me you've never tried RT overdrive without telling me you've never tried RT overdrive*, but somehow i'm huffing copium by being aware of glitches, artifacts and unusable performance? kay. sure. which by the way, it's completely unusable on a 4070 or 4070 Super (4070 ti Super and 4080 Super are borderline, but playable with framegen and still look worse than rasterised). path tracing is dumb and you should never do it. it's no different than gaming at ultra settings - nice, but pointless and a pure flex.
@AkaiSuzume
@AkaiSuzume Місяць тому
@@anarchicnerd666Sure bud.
@stigero
@stigero Місяць тому
@@anarchicnerd666 u need to exchange you vocabulary. and what kind of gpu have you compared your gre to? your new GRE doesnt even beat the 3080 ti from 2021. :) but its good to feel that u got a great card i guess.
@MrBALAKUMARA
@MrBALAKUMARA Місяць тому
@@stigero lmao and so does the 4060 ti and 4070, you and that AkaiSuzume sure crying at Jensen's lap for advertising their cards here. lol
@-INFERNUS-
@-INFERNUS- Місяць тому
I'm happy with my PNY 4070 Super. Small, and very efficient GPU.😊
@camdustin9164
@camdustin9164 Місяць тому
Yup, it’s the best GPU at the 500-600 price range, it has the best raster and the RT performance for its price range.
@-INFERNUS-
@-INFERNUS- Місяць тому
@@camdustin9164 Yeah and especially if games support DLSS 3 and frame gen, even higher FPS.
@KonglomeratYT
@KonglomeratYT Місяць тому
@@camdustin9164What? The 7900 GRE beats it in rasterized performance consistently, and its cheaper. No point to lie like that unless they're paying you. And, if they are paying you, hook me up lmfao. Clearly your lie works cause this guy licked it up. I'll gladly get paid to pander to individuals that will fall for such things.
@willwill2548
@willwill2548 Місяць тому
When I play in 4k at 60fps, my latency remains at 16 ms. Why is your latency so much higher even at higher fps like 140?
@guerillagrueplays6301
@guerillagrueplays6301 Місяць тому
Comment before the video: Built a system with a 7800 XT in November, and so far? No complaints. I play at 1080p, and rarely play games that offer RT at ALL (the RE games and Shadow of the Tomb Raider being two of the few I do,) but (outside a few stability issues early on due to dialling in undervolts and early adopter driver issues) the card does fantastic in the games I play at maxxed out settings. Perhaps that's just me being easy to please though.
@Claudethechiefsfan
@Claudethechiefsfan Місяць тому
If you’re buying a 7800XT to play at 4k, you’ve dug your own grave tbh
@DwaynedaGamer
@DwaynedaGamer Місяць тому
I bought a 7800xt and I'm playing at 4k.
@PlanetGamz
@PlanetGamz Місяць тому
I played 4k well on my 6800xt. Got 7800xt now & its also great with 4k. Just finished Banishers Ghosts of New Eden & played through it in 4k getting well over 60fps & i only have a 5600x cpu. So what is the problem with 4k on these cards exactly?
@DwaynedaGamer
@DwaynedaGamer Місяць тому
@@PlanetGamz 😂 They must think this is a Nvidia card with 12gb that runs out of vram.. The amount of misinformation about AMD cards is frightening, especially the 7000 series. I don't know if they just honestly underestimate them or what. There is not one game I cannot play at Native 4k. Then there is the cheat codes like upscalers and frame generation. What are these guys talking about?...
@1Rictec
@1Rictec Місяць тому
@@PlanetGamz that is what i have too and it works people talk about high fps and then use a 60hz monitor at 4k ..
@bsgjj423
@bsgjj423 Місяць тому
@@DwaynedaGamer4k low settings yea
@declankiernan1970
@declankiernan1970 Місяць тому
I was solely AMD for years and a fanboy then i got a 4070 TI Super and oh boy what a difference, higher FPS, clear images, massive heat reductions and Watts usage, sad to say AMD are way behind, then this is Ray Tracing, just wow!!
@VAMPS000
@VAMPS000 Місяць тому
Thinking about buying 4070 for 1440 p gaming is good choice ? ( Some 3d stuff too )
@declankiernan1970
@declankiernan1970 Місяць тому
@@VAMPS000 the 4070 is only 8gb of memory. You will struggle at 1440p with Anthony above medium on AAA games. If you can stretch the budget to a TI Super you will be great. It’s about 800 euro here
@usleadershipareliars
@usleadershipareliars Місяць тому
I'm on amd now. It's ok, but I'm gonna go Intel and Nvidia on my next build. I want to know why they have over 80% of the market.
@JtotheM
@JtotheM Місяць тому
​@@VAMPS000yea its very good at that res. W/dlss you'll be able to use raytracing as well w/60fps. Cyberpunk runs 1440p w/Pycho raytracing at 60fps dlss quality. And some 4k too w/adjusted settings. Was happy w/my 4070 while I had it. Actually selling it at the moment cuz I tracked down a 4080FE super
@JtotheM
@JtotheM Місяць тому
​@@declankiernan1970incorrect. My 4070 is 12gb
@Lancista
@Lancista Місяць тому
*_Advanced Micro Devices created the Ray Tracing Technology back in 2001._* *_This Technology helped many Industries in the beginning of the 21st. Century._* *_It's totally logical that they their Graphics Processing Unit's to be the very best._*
@imharold282
@imharold282 Місяць тому
I’m building my first pc and I don’t really have a set budget but I’d say it’s around $1,200. Should I go with the 1660 xt or is there better bang for my buck?
@isaacx593
@isaacx593 Місяць тому
You do realise AMD has frame gen in Radeon Software for all games. And you clearly did not use it or chose not to. So biased
@chrissimao14
@chrissimao14 Місяць тому
This video in itself feeds propaganda..
@sicubogdanandrei9332
@sicubogdanandrei9332 Місяць тому
I bought 7800 xt for my gf's pc and it works really well. I had a problem with it because of how I arranged the cables, but after I fixed it everything was just fine.
@cliqinheads7545
@cliqinheads7545 Місяць тому
Heyo im completely brand new to pc gaming and I was hoping to build my own with the help of watching your vids and others but when you guys say for example “rtx 4070 ti” but when I look it up on best buy they have multiple different “types” of rtx 4070 ti and some have different gigs and they’re normally have different prices. So I was wondering if you or anyone can recommend a gpu that is a bit "worse" than the 4090?
@jerzy484
@jerzy484 Місяць тому
If you're going for around the 1000 price range 7900XTX is the 2nd best GPU followed by the 4080 Super and then the 7900XT and 4080 are basically tied with the 7900XT being around 700 around 200 cheaper than the 4080. I personally have a 7900XT but all you need to know is Nvidia for Raytracing and AMD for normal gaming.
@cliqinheads7545
@cliqinheads7545 Місяць тому
@@jerzy484 what’s ray tracing?
@cliqinheads7545
@cliqinheads7545 Місяць тому
@@jerzy484 I heard that I should get a gpu with higher gigs and I would’ve thought the higher the gigs the more expensive but on Best Buy the 7900 has 24 gigs and the 4080 super has only 16 but almost $200 more, why is that? Also thanks for the help.
@shivers974
@shivers974 Місяць тому
7800xt + 7800 x3D + 3440 x 144OP = Alan wake * 2 high setting + fsr quality i have 70 - 100 fps. Go AMD :) stop give your money to NVIDIA.
@GrainGrown
@GrainGrown Місяць тому
*Alan Wake ... Keep learning English, kiddo.
@shivers974
@shivers974 Місяць тому
@@GrainGrown You're so creepy, ... Can you speak French, kiddo ? I don't think so, go find a job and a purpose in your life bro :3 good luck
@gorgoncorvenus4529
@gorgoncorvenus4529 Місяць тому
RT = gimmick.....
@GrainGrown
@GrainGrown Місяць тому
Nope.
@songrimredtide4352
@songrimredtide4352 Місяць тому
So I saved up for the 790XTX as I wanted both the Vram as well as Av1 encoding, (I upgraded from a 1080ti) and while getting a 3090ti may have gotten me the same amount of Vram, as well as better RT it was still $200 more, nevermind the 4090 in terms of pricing. And in my experience RT at present is overhyped, getting a good OLED panel, with good HDR is a much larger visual uplift then RT is that realistically unless you are already on a good OLED HDR experience. I turn Ray tracing on here and there, but in most cases taking the time to manually tweak my HDR shaders as well as alter the lighting has much larger visual improvement, and in some cases looks better then RT. Yes RT can look good, and more immersive, but the more you monitor itself takes away from the experience the less it's worth it. This was something I noticed when switching monitors from an older LCD to the new logitech OLED (To be fair the HDR is a tad lacking but I can fix that to make the HDR fit my monitors specs to look amazing) RT on my old monitor was just eh it's there. On the new monitor when it's running (as well as being the winter cause dear lord the heat) that's when it's an experience worth having. But for my needs I'm more then happy with the AMD card. Furthermore at present RT hasn't developed enough for me to ever recommend a card solely for it's RT performance. I stand behind buy the card that's best for your needs be it playing at a set resolution, or a card that can be work horse. When RT develops more and if AMD is still behind then I'd recommend people more to NVIDIA. Unrelated to that been looking at a card for mini mobile build to take with me to friends and when traveling and honestly the Intel arc 770 has caught my eye price to performance It's really unmatched. Sure it's drivers aren't fully mature, and it struggles with certain games, but unless I'm playing those games I don't care. (I also plan on that being a linux machine as well and have heard nothing but good things from my fellow nerds.) like I said I stand behind getting what's best for your needs.
@mercuriete
@mercuriete Місяць тому
I have a 6900XT and I played Watchdog legion with raytracing at something like 1080@50fps with very early drivers.
@blackbirdpctech
@blackbirdpctech Місяць тому
Instead of saying that the 7800XT is faster than a 4070 in rasterization shouldn’t you test it? Isn’t that the point of a tech UKposts channel?
@PcCentric
@PcCentric Місяць тому
We have a full GPU benchmark video on the channel, went up last week!
@blackbirdpctech
@blackbirdpctech Місяць тому
@@PcCentricwill check it out, thanks.
@blackbirdpctech
@blackbirdpctech Місяць тому
@@PcCentric nice job on the benchmarking in the prior video ... as expected the 7800XT falls between the 4070 and 4070 Super ... that would be good information to highlight in this video too.
@pandaberry_
@pandaberry_ Місяць тому
still not buying amd
@pandaberry_
@pandaberry_ Місяць тому
until next gen
@navdeepsingh3508
@navdeepsingh3508 Місяць тому
Don't. They are such hit or misses in terms of software
@pandaberry_
@pandaberry_ Місяць тому
honestly my nvidea gpu is just as unreliable@@navdeepsingh3508
@stonecoldkittle4664
@stonecoldkittle4664 Місяць тому
Have an Asus tuf 6800 and it’s been great personally, my only gpu tho haven’t had a Nivida.
@pandaberry_
@pandaberry_ Місяць тому
I'm currently on a gt 770 that's on its last breaths@@stonecoldkittle4664 so I really have to upgrade
@playerraxis7669
@playerraxis7669 Місяць тому
I have a RX 7800 XT But I'm going back and forth with monitor selections should I get a native 1440p or move up to 4K. I have a Ryzen 7700 none X CPU with 32gb DDR5 5600Mhz
@hamstersmash
@hamstersmash 29 днів тому
Depends on what you want, i prefer 1440p with higher fps
@ericbigiron6123
@ericbigiron6123 Місяць тому
My 7900xtx gets it done in 4K with RT, even in Cyberpunk with FSR Balanced settings. You get about 50 fps and it’s playable. It’s paired with a 7800x3D.
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