What Can You ACTUALLY Tow? Payload -Tow Capacity - Travel Trailer

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Big Rock Moto

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Cut through the dealership lies and internet hype. What can you actually safely tow? Understand why payload will limit you before tow capacity. Understand GVWR, GCWR, weight distribution hitches, sway control, and more. If you own a travel trailer, fifth wheel or towable RV, or are shopping for one and wondering what your vehicle can safely handle, this will be the best 20 minutes you invest in your education. Stop the spread of dangerous misinformation about what you can tow - get educated now.
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Index:
00:00 - 01:46 Intro
01:46 - 05:50 GVWR, GCWR, Payload
05:50 - 08:07 Hitch Weight/Ratings
08:07 - 11:29 Myths
11:29 - 14:42 Real Life Example
14:42 - 15:58 Axle & Tire Ratings
15:58 - 18:46 Sway
18:46 - 20:50 Weight Distribution
20:50 - 22:45 Conclusion
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@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 2 роки тому
Check out my new in depth honest owner review of the Jeep Gladiator! ukposts.info/have/v-deo/nn2AqJmPaKWJ2aM.html
@michalp2362
@michalp2362 3 роки тому
This is exactly how every instructional video should look. No BS music, tacky jokes or presenter acting like a clown. Everything straight to the point! Always makes me wanna laugh when people brag how much they can tow with their half tons
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
thanks
@mchocolate2301
@mchocolate2301 3 роки тому
My comment was going to mirror yours. Well said.
@denisse37921
@denisse37921 2 роки тому
@@mchocolate2301 exactly, me as well.
@davemccoy4936
@davemccoy4936 2 роки тому
straight to the point.....AFTER all the damn commercials
@IdleDrummer
@IdleDrummer Рік тому
Great video! I am currently shopping for truck and trailer, so this video was made for me! I don’t mind the commercials when the video has content of this quality. Thank you for your time making this!
@rondefilippo8546
@rondefilippo8546 2 роки тому
I am not an engineer and don't connect with a lot of calculations but I'm smart enough to know my limits and to engage with folks like him who does the research. I do my due diligence when needed and I absolutely appreciate people like him who will help keep me out of trouble. Great Job Big Rock!
@filup7419
@filup7419 Рік тому
If he did his research, he would know the difference between "jamb" and "jam" (2:10).
@xaviervalentine6195
@xaviervalentine6195 Рік тому
Awesome Job, I knew there was more to the advertised weights and limits, however you gave all of yhe points to focus on! great video thank you so much for the time you spent on this extremely helpful information!
@rickmlamb1
@rickmlamb1 10 місяців тому
Absolutely amazing thanks for sharing your story
@glandersonbooper9342
@glandersonbooper9342 10 місяців тому
I'm an engineer, and I'm an absolute moron.
@cowboyup545
@cowboyup545 6 місяців тому
@@filup7419 Didn't realize we were into a word contest. But he damn sure knows his stuff about weight distribution. And trying to save everyone some heartaches.
@AarenCobb
@AarenCobb 8 місяців тому
One of the best explanations I've ever watched. I never realized how complicated this all is.
@dwightbernheimer331
@dwightbernheimer331 3 роки тому
At almost 80 years old I've done something all my life you might laugh at. Whatever the towing capacity was for my vehicle, I dropped it by 50% LOL if my truck was supposed to max out at 14000 lb I knew it would tow 7000 lbs comfortably. Operative word... comfortably. Always had way more truck than I actually needed. Better safe than sorry. Never had a problem LOL great stuff thanks for posting
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Great rule!
@donaldindividual-1
@donaldindividual-1 2 роки тому
My simple rule is never tow more than your vehicles weight. My Tundra weighs 6,300 lbs my Arctic Fox weighs 4,200 lbs empty.
@dwightbernheimer331
@dwightbernheimer331 2 роки тому
@@donaldindividual-1 Arctic Fox... You must be a wise man. LOL thanks for responding.
@jonathanlerma5211
@jonathanlerma5211 2 роки тому
@@donaldindividual-1 that's what he just said tho 🤣
@brucedeleskey8540
@brucedeleskey8540 2 роки тому
I did the same as you its because whare old school we do it right our not at all
@mr.rothstein461
@mr.rothstein461 3 роки тому
Buys F350 Heavy Duty, by end of calculations…”I can tow a bicycle!”
@murdiesel
@murdiesel 3 роки тому
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Safe travels.
@garylriedl
@garylriedl 2 роки тому
One of the best informational and detailed videos about towing I've seen in awhile. Thanks!
@davidmccombs6868
@davidmccombs6868 3 роки тому
I came across your you tube video. And I was impressed on how you went about explaining all the factors on towing capabilities. I'm new to all this terminology. We bought our first tt and still not sure how much weight I can put in the back of the truck and trailer to stay in a safe zone. But will keep watching over and over.
@grilledcheeseandsoup1652
@grilledcheeseandsoup1652 3 роки тому
This is exactly the information I need! Thank you so much.
@paulalders5998
@paulalders5998 3 роки тому
great video....... a lot to absorb into my pea size brain....... but priceless and EXTREMELY important!!!’ thank you for taking the time to make and share this!!!!
@__Craig__
@__Craig__ 2 роки тому
One of the best videos I've seen to gain a clear understanding of towing an rv. Appreciate your content!!
@hatch4010
@hatch4010 Рік тому
Bro! The info I've been looking for! Thanks for breaking it down and delivering the good.
@loriar1027
@loriar1027 2 роки тому
Thank you for sharing all this information. This is exactly what we need to know! I’m trying to convince my husband to buy or at least rent a camper but there’s so much to learn about towing. It’s all so complicated, it makes my head hurt!
@jjj333kkk
@jjj333kkk 3 роки тому
Very informative and helpful video. Thanks!
@theresad6990
@theresad6990 Рік тому
Thank you for this video! The info you presented was outstanding. You answered so many things that I was unsure about as I consider a new tow vehicle. I'll definitely be sharing this with others.
@mikemezo7553
@mikemezo7553 3 роки тому
Hi Ian: What an Excellent & Informative video......Great info.......there's a lot going on with loading, hitching & towing.......this specific video is on my Favorites List.......keep up the excellent work, as it's appreciated, and Thank You!!!..........Mike Mezo, Muncie, Indiana.
@herlysarmiento9863
@herlysarmiento9863 3 роки тому
Took me a little while to get here... but it was well worth the extra clicks and time ...this is exactly what I needed to learn!! Gold info, so, Thank you, sir!!!
@tomhansen6450
@tomhansen6450 3 роки тому
Thanks for making and posting this comprehensive video and spreadsheet. It's really great to have such a detailed overview related to the issues of safe towing in one place.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
No problem
@scottgraham3492
@scottgraham3492 2 роки тому
Glad to see that you a member of CERT as well! Thank you very interesting video!
@anthonyholmes7123
@anthonyholmes7123 2 роки тому
You really covered all the bases. Thanks for taking the time to enlighten us.
@kingssing
@kingssing 3 роки тому
Cleared up all the questions focused on safety Thank You
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Thanks
@Nonnachella
@Nonnachella 3 роки тому
We've been doing this for years. It has served us well!
@capswing8055
@capswing8055 Рік тому
Well, as a newbie to camper trailering, this was really good! Pretty much cleared up everything I wanted to know. Nice job keeping it on point.
@toddfuss1813
@toddfuss1813 3 роки тому
Thanks for the info. You reassured me the calculations I’ve come up with are correct.
@bobruzicka857
@bobruzicka857 3 роки тому
great info and very detailed. didn't realize there were so many factors. I'll be a smarter RVer now. Thanks for your work!
@alaska1girls
@alaska1girls 4 місяці тому
Absolutely one of if not the best video ive seen on towing thank you. I belong to several FB groups of the paticular trailer i have and im shocked how many people on there have tow vehicles too small or ask, “ can i get by”, how little respect people have for towing. I share this and other videos over and over.
@Northwest-yo7qn
@Northwest-yo7qn 2 роки тому
This is without a doubt the best video on this subject matter. I knew most of this, but still learned a few bits. Thanks!
@TC-pn1yl
@TC-pn1yl 2 роки тому
Thank you very much for the detailed explanation. You make a lot of sense and give us the information we need to make a good decision as we look for a camper and a tow vehicle!
@Billy_Silva
@Billy_Silva 3 роки тому
This is the best video I've seen with this subject. Thank you captain !
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Engage!
@ralphkolarik4115
@ralphkolarik4115 3 роки тому
Thank you so much very.. informative a large boon to my attempt to demystify all the jargon and Marketing/Lies. The Excel Spreadsheet by itself is worth its weight in gold. Thanks So much! Not sure what you do for work but you should consider getting a hold of Consumer Report or a similar type of origination .. mainly because of your exhaustive researching skills and ability to see how all the zillions of variables fit together. This is a public service to be sure all of your the Freeware knowledge you have passed on is keeping us all safe. Thanks again!! Stay safe, Take care, have fun!
@tomberthold4098
@tomberthold4098 2 роки тому
This video is the best I've seen on everything you need to know about towing. Well done!
@davidmatt904
@davidmatt904 3 роки тому
There are large number of videos on this subject this is the best of the best . Thanks .
@Shakespearience
@Shakespearience 3 роки тому
I was going mad searching for a concise and informative video on this subject, until I found this one. Many thanks, well done.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Thanks
@stevenelson4509
@stevenelson4509 2 роки тому
This is the best educational video I’ve seen on towing! Everyone towing a trailer should watch this. Thank you for your time and research in putting this together. Very well done!
@Domal88
@Domal88 Рік тому
This should be mandatory watching for anyone walking into a trailer dealership. I drove TT all over the US for 27 years. And can't count the Trailer camper disasters I've seen.. Happen and come upon. This guy is a wealth of knowledge and will save You alot of Headache.. Great Stuff!
@kennithandirsen7184
@kennithandirsen7184 Рік тому
One of the best videos on the Tube regarding these subjects....Thank you!
@carvesnow
@carvesnow 10 місяців тому
Great video! Love the straightforward no BS format.
@hankford2493
@hankford2493 3 роки тому
One of the most thorough, comprehensive, informative and straight forward informational video of this type I have ever seen. Thank you!
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Wow thanks I appreciate that
@markparker4032
@markparker4032 3 роки тому
Totally agree.
@kellybrady7219
@kellybrady7219 2 роки тому
What Hank said!
@marknelson8435
@marknelson8435 3 роки тому
Was this video helpful? You're damn right it was helpful!
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Great
@billdickerson2228
@billdickerson2228 2 роки тому
@@BigRockMoto I've towed for decades, some pretty heavy stuff (my 1936 F20 tractor, antique engines, cars on flatbeds through the hills of PA, etc.) and I STILL appreciated this video and feel I learned from it. It was more like a classroom, it wasn't preachy, and I loved the fact it wasn't loaded up with self-promotion and shrill distracting music. This was one of the most professional YT videos I've seen. You put the glitzy look at me videos to shame.
@PjSmith
@PjSmith 3 роки тому
Great videos very good info as I am in the process of figuring that out right now and getting a hitch installed at usual next week glad I found this bideo
@Elpapijun
@Elpapijun 3 роки тому
WOW! Very informative and I will definitely be looking into a few factors. Well explained and detailed. I think most issues are in the payload correct. But I'm going right outside today and look into all this.
@n.taylor3364
@n.taylor3364 3 роки тому
Thank you, thank you, thank you!! This video really helped clarify so many towing weight questions I have - or now had! I am looking at light weight trailers and like you I tend to choose the safety of my family AND being within legal limits. Both my family, and staying out of debt or even jail in the event of an accident will ensure my life is full of love and not full of stress! THANK YOU!
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Great thanks
@MrPir84free
@MrPir84free 3 роки тому
I really appreciate your tutorial on some of the factors involved with towing. I thought I'd add a little bit to the conversation of other things often not considered as well. One thought that comes to mind is to shift the weight, where possible, to inside the trailer if it's safe to do so. Doing so mathematically increases your overall capacity. The other is math-related. If you take your payload capacity of the truck, then subtract the weight of the occupants, and the cargo in the truck, the number given, to see your approximate more realistic trailer capacity is to take that final number, and divide it by 0.15.. Now, from what I've seen advertised, RV dealers use 10% instead of 15% for the tongue weight, but it's just a quick way to see where your real life numbers end up. Me, I don't have a truck yet.. Weighing my options. Class C vs class A vs truck & trailer. Considering my options for a truck heavily. Do appreciate your lessons for the day..
@billlatronica6848
@billlatronica6848 2 роки тому
Very good video. I’m looking into purchasing our first travel trailer and had absolutely no idea about any of this. Thanks so much for the highly detailed information.
@ibanezgj1
@ibanezgj1 3 роки тому
Great video and summary..... Thank you for sharing your knowledge, much appreciated.....
@ChristopherSchmittgplus
@ChristopherSchmittgplus 3 роки тому
This is the most comprehensive and educational video about towing I've ever seen. Well done. I shudder to think about the time we almost rolled off a lot with a unit that was within "towing capacity" but far exceeded our payload by about 400lbs. Luckily I took a look at the numbers before hand. More people need to watch this and be realistic with what they can actually tow.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
thanks!
@planbeeapiaries
@planbeeapiaries 3 роки тому
I am so glad I came across this video literally a couple of hours before going to the RV dealership. I will get my ducks in a row first with all the suggestions then go. Thank you!
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Great
@A1N0
@A1N0 2 роки тому
Thanks so much. Your video explains it perfectly, when so many other "experts" here don't.
@Mi_Tony
@Mi_Tony 2 роки тому
Probably the best video I’ve seen on this subject. Really breaks it down in ways the common man can understand. Great job!!
@priayief
@priayief 2 роки тому
That is incredibly useful information for me! My wife and I (both seniors) live in a semi-rural area that is at risk of evacuation each fire season. We have 3 dogs and a cat and wondered what we would do or where we would go in the case of evacuation. A travel trailer looked like a good option to have at the ready. We have no interest in travel or camping with this trailer. The thing is, we know absolutely nothing about these things. We have a 1999 Ford F150 with about 250,000 km as our second vehicle and thought this might be used for towing a suitable trailer. With the information you've provided, I think we will able to focus on the size of trailer that we could tow. I had no idea that there was so much to consider about towing a trailer! But I guess when you start with knowing absolutely nothing about a subject, there will be surprises. Many thanks for posting such useful information. And if you or any of your viewers might have helpful additional things that we should consider, we would welcome the advice. Cheers.
@CharlesinGA
@CharlesinGA 3 роки тому
Without making a two hour long video, you did an EXCELLENT job of explaining the entire tow capability situation. Best video I have seen on the subject. You might consider videos on specific items like tires, and how passenger tires on trucks (common on "half tons") have thinner, weaker sidewalls that prevent the truck from controlling trailer sway, close looks at tire sidewalls to see how to find the actual weight capacity of the tire (not just load range), and how light truck tires do a better job when towing. Anyhow, good video.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Good point
@rebeccacooke5161
@rebeccacooke5161 Рік тому
This is so helpful. I came to this video knowing nothing and you have given me the info I need to figure this out and stay safe.
@nbooky
@nbooky 2 роки тому
Wow. This is by far the best explanation. Thanks!!
@laurabald7624
@laurabald7624 3 роки тому
I cannot thank you enough for this video. Thank you! Took me 10 hours online last night and I didn't even manage to figure everything out as well as you taught it in 20 minutes!
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
You're welcome!
@1mandrywallarmytv144
@1mandrywallarmytv144 3 роки тому
exactly
@markaverett1225
@markaverett1225 3 роки тому
good stuff. I promise I won't go over my Payload capacity!
@ziondaughter12
@ziondaughter12 3 роки тому
We were looking into buying a forest river no boundaries 19.8. You gave a lot of good info to take into consideration before we buy the trailer. Thanks
@richcyr4027
@richcyr4027 3 роки тому
Great Video. Thanks for sharing. I've watched several videos on this topic and yours is the most comprehensive. I recently bought a 2018 F150 EcoBoost and I'm now researching travel trailers that I can safely tow. I'll definitely be using your calculator and checklist. I also enjoyed your videos on the F150 and Lance 1685.
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 3 роки тому
My dad sold RV's and he was a very honest man. People would come in a try to buy a trailer or 5th wheel that was to much for their tow vehicle and he would not sell it to them. His rule for towing was 75% of what ever the max tow rating was for that vehicle. He knew if he sold someone a trailer or 5th wheel they could not handle, they would be unhappy and never buy another RV from him. Lets just say he had a lot of return customers who once they started to like RVing, they always wanted something a little bigger.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Great story
@BrewskyAZ
@BrewskyAZ 3 роки тому
I used the same percentage, maybe even a bit more modest of figures. However, there were other essential weight ratings that I didn’t consider. Thumbs up to your dad..
@wes326
@wes326 Рік тому
He was doing them a big favor. Traveling at "Max Weight" is not fun.
@TopReasons4U
@TopReasons4U 3 роки тому
Every newbie should watch this video before considering their first travel trailer. Great job!
@jodysilzer6426
@jodysilzer6426 2 роки тому
Wow! Can't tell you how much I appreciate this video. It's very comprehendable for those seeking new info!
@rogeeeferrari
@rogeeeferrari 3 роки тому
Fantastic video, 17 idiots dislike it ? Very valuable info for staying safe towing a trailer. I towed a 23 foot Airstream with my Tacoma Truck, even though I was 1000 pounds under the factory max limit the trailer was a load. My late wife and I travelled all over the western US and I always had to be careful about the weight from the water, black/grey tanks when travelling. Hopefully people will learn from your video because it could save their lives...
@hantaowang9422
@hantaowang9422 3 роки тому
Thank you for explaining to us about the capability things. You are right. We cannot trust RV dealers and even manufactures, such as so called "half ton camper".
@matthewzisman7758
@matthewzisman7758 Рік тому
New truck owner and new to towing. Watched this before getting started - very helpful. Thanks for taking the time to provide detail and clear explanation in a short amount of time.
@luismartinez2701
@luismartinez2701 2 роки тому
Great Video Big Rock! I'm currently planning on buying a truck and RV, I was doing some research in how to find the proper truck for the RV I'm getting and this video helped to understand at the things I need to pay attention to to identify the prior truck. Thanks!
@desertforrest
@desertforrest 3 роки тому
Thank you sir! Great information and very useful!
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
No worries
@CUCHOBX
@CUCHOBX 2 роки тому
I totally agree with everything you said in this video. Unfortunately, many rv owners simply overdo it with the size of rv they purchase and the amount of items they want to bring along. It's always better to remain below all limits or capacities than go overboard. Your safety and the safety of others on the road is what matters here. As informative as this video is, I am really surprised that you made no mention of "VEHICLE STOPPING DISTANCE WHILE HAULING AN RV / TRAILER".
@ablais007
@ablais007 11 місяців тому
Best video I have seen on loading my half ton. Thank you.
@chatchawansukkha9421
@chatchawansukkha9421 3 роки тому
Thank you so much for making this very helpful video. You will save a lot of lives with this video.
@wonderingBadger
@wonderingBadger 3 роки тому
Well done Ian I wish so many more people could grasp this info and take heed to it. Would like to add that age and condition of equipment are also limiting factors, especially on tires. Just because a tire has sufficient tread doesn’t automatically mean they are good to go. If more than 7 or so years old they should be replaced. Thanks for the well thought out and thorough video!
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Thanks Lynn and good point about tires.
@mark98070
@mark98070 3 роки тому
Great video! I also see inadequate tow vehicles pulling trailers all the time. In your calculation you forgot to add the weight of your Equal-izer WD hitch. It probably weighs 50+ lbs.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Great point thank you
@rjhohne
@rjhohne 2 місяці тому
This is a fantastic video,, all in one place, to the point, and with no extraneous information. Thanks for doing this!
@StratRider
@StratRider 2 роки тому
ha, I logged in just to comment that I wish you also had a spreadsheet. LOL, I see there is to be one with the other video. I'll be checking that out in a minute. It appears you covered all of the bases here and I'm impressed which is hard to do. Excellent video sir.
@TheLifeandSadEnding
@TheLifeandSadEnding 3 роки тому
This is a very good video. Thanks for getting this info out. I have a F250 with 2852 payload. I tow a Lance 2465 with a max weight of 8000 lb. I think I'm good looking at my numbers. Do have Timbrens or sumo springs on the back?
@SurelyYewJest
@SurelyYewJest 3 роки тому
I don't know what year your F250 is but assuming everything you listed and your trailer is filled to its max cargo weight, and your trailer is transferring the standard-guideline 15% load to the truck's hitch, you still have 1600lbs of payload capacity left.
@adinlucena7047
@adinlucena7047 3 роки тому
Trailer sway... Found out the hard way, but I learned through that experience. Never happened to me again 😂😂😂
@wowwow1718
@wowwow1718 2 роки тому
Always put as much weight as close as possible to the axle of the truck 🛻
@philip48230
@philip48230 3 роки тому
Thank you. I’ve been looking for this information for 4 years. Well done.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Thanks
@bonitarogozinsky3472
@bonitarogozinsky3472 2 роки тому
Clearly you must be an engineer! Your video was so incredibly helpful! Thanks for putting all the effort into the calculations and providing this video without including a bunch of obnoxious music, etc.! Using your real life examples, e.g., your truck with the trailer attached, also put things into perspective. I am trying to make a decision on purchasing a travel trailer to pull with my mid-size SUV and your info was just what I needed to not make an informed, safe decision!! Thank you, nicely done!!! PS, I downloaded and plan to use, your spreadsheet before I make a purchase, so, thanks for that too!
@targadave
@targadave 3 роки тому
Great video! My question always revolves around specifically adjusting your trailer tongue weight percentage between that acceptable 10 to 15% range, and the fact that numerous dual axle trailers can have a huge cargo capacity range. IF you have accurate scales to measure with , then you should be able to adjust the total cargo load, and the cargo load distribution in your trailer so that tongue weight comes out say 12% instead of 15%. You should be well within safe towing parameters while helping with the common payload limit issue. For a loaded trailer weight of 6000#, tongue weight goes from 900 to 720# in going from 15 down to 12%. This approach definitely assumes you are making accurate weight measurements instead of just assuming your running at gross trailer weight, loading everything “up front”, and plugging in the 15% tongue weight number
@billdickerson2228
@billdickerson2228 2 роки тому
I have an Aluma car hauler, all aluminum tilt bed. I contacted the company to get some specifics and talked to one of their engineers. They said they recommend 10-12% tongue weight, no more. They also said to not use a WDH with their all aluminum trailer and went into some deep engineering explanation, but it made sense in the end. Adjust the car forward or rearward to control tongue weight, the balance of their trailer, the distance the axles are from the coupler and other factors, it tows just fine. Anyway, I'd contacted them because I kept reading about the 10-15% tongue weight and thought that's a lot on this type of trailer. For a travel trailer, how HIGH your load is inside that trailer matters. The higher it is, the more trouble you'll have in braking because of the load shift being so high above the axles. Keep your trailer load LOW inside that trailer. And over the axles as much as possible.
@nhlcfl7733
@nhlcfl7733 3 роки тому
From personal experience (explained further down), This type of video is a must for anyone thinking about buying a truck or evaluating their current truck when considering what they plan to tow with it. You touched on most every point and were truthful about most dealerships and their lack or care or understanding of your set up or intended set up; many simply want the sale! Before I purchased my 31 ft., 7300 lbs. Toy Hauler (1100 lb. tongue “hitch” weight), I thought my truck 1/2 ton was alright and with its GVWR and GCWR. Well, I towed it from the dealership (350 miles) where I got the great deal and felt uneasy the whole way home. It felt okay overall but the squat was excessive and the main issue. I have “The Equalizer” WDHitch system so that was the thing that greatly helped. I realized that for any real travelling safety, I had to upgrade suspension or upgrade truck. I upgraded suspension (RAM 1500 coils with 1300 lbs. payload capacity), two grades stiffer but that didn’t solve it, it did a little but not enough in my opinion. In the end, I now own a 3/4 ton Chevy with a payload capacity of 3300 lbs. and lots of room regarding GCWR, etc., and all the stability with a more robust frame and axle and brake capacity that one could ask for and peace of mind. I like the newer camera technology and more that helps a lot, even with my LT level truck.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Great story thank you
@charlie-qm9gz
@charlie-qm9gz Рік тому
Fist time watcher I think that you have done a great job in explaining all the different things that go in to tow readings
@1mandrywallarmytv144
@1mandrywallarmytv144 3 роки тому
I just bought that same Reese WD and sway control hitch. So good to hear this guy say that this was his prefered type of hitch that he likes to use. I have way more than what i need and am glad i have it
@obiwan6126
@obiwan6126 3 роки тому
Great video, tons of great information here. My only critique is that GCWR isn’t always GVWR + max tow rating. For this reason your formula for tow capacity using GCWR-GVWR accounts for hitch weight as represented in the GVWR/Payload as well as any unused cargo capacity. The weight that presents itself at the hitch with downward force, while certainly playing a role in Payload and GVWR for the truck, is really weight that is associated with and derived directly from the trailer being towed and it’s respective GVWR. Your formula counts it twice, once on the GVWR for the truck and then again in the resulting GVWR tow capacity. For those of us that tow small trailers with hitch weight figures ranging from 300-500 lbs., that represents lost cargo capacity in your spreadsheet. When put on a scale to measure GCWR, the hitch weight associated to the truck’s payload and GVWR will always be weighed as part of the trailer just as it would be if the trailer were to be weighed separately. The only reason to account for it on the truck is to measure the downward force the weight places onto the axles and suspension of the truck. GCWR on the other hand accounts for how much weight your tow vehicle is rated to safely pull and stop. That’s a 12.5% loss in GCWR cargo capacity without reason.
@tylerbrown4483
@tylerbrown4483 Рік тому
Yup. You crushed that. The reason GCWR-GVWR is not equal to max towing is that the three ratings have different basis. GCWR and GCWR are actually both determined by what your braking and suspension systems can handle under dynamic load in extremis. Max towing is based on what your frame and powers train can handle.
@spankroy
@spankroy 3 роки тому
It's always the cargo capacity that limits towing. I was reading about people who had purchased the new Sierra with the 6.2L V8 and large tow ratings, but yet, they too also had around 1500 lbs of weight capacity.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
100% right
@MiriamDandelion
@MiriamDandelion 2 роки тому
Great video. I’m new to RVing and it gave me some idea of where to start with all of this.
@colettematturro2261
@colettematturro2261 2 роки тому
This video will save lives. Thank you for educating us, outstanding job with this information.
@MO-vx3br
@MO-vx3br 2 роки тому
Very informative video. One extra tidbit that I read also helped us was wheelbase concerns. I found this online it may help your readers - “As a general rule of thumb, the first 110 inches of wheelbase allow for a 20-foot trailer. For each additional four inches of wheelbase length, you get one foot more in trailer length.” Safe travels!
@mschrum
@mschrum 3 місяці тому
Never heard this rule of thumb before but I like it. I am getting a truck with 141 in wheelbase which means 27.5 foot trailer which is what I was shopping for. Good to get some verification. Thanks!
@startconvo6857
@startconvo6857 3 роки тому
Thank you. I am so frustrated with RV dealers telling me I will be fine towing trailers clearly beyond its capabilities
@samuelhiggins5250
@samuelhiggins5250 2 роки тому
The rv dealers ive met so far have explained buying the tow trailers first then buy a truck capable of pulling it
@roysolorio8517
@roysolorio8517 2 роки тому
Very great information Sr something I'm learning before something seriously happens which scares the heck out of me great job for taking the time posting this God Bless
@timcarley6392
@timcarley6392 3 роки тому
This is the best video i have seen on this topic. Vehicle dealerships will not tell you the facts. Great job!! I will be using your spreadsheet
@GanderFlight
@GanderFlight 3 роки тому
Payload is the EXACT reason why we moved from a max tow F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost to a Ram 2500 with a 6.4L Hemi. The towing difference is NIGHT AND DAY!
@herb7877
@herb7877 3 роки тому
I'm in the same process only to a F350. Way overkill, but I was on the border on carrying capacity / load and want the extra margin. The F150 had plenty of power and way under towing weight capacity though... better to be save than sorry.
@brettricks3549
@brettricks3549 3 роки тому
Very informative - thanks for putting this together, and great job explaining in a very easy-to-understand way. Cheers!
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Glad it was helpful!
@TommyOhmalley
@TommyOhmalley Рік тому
Awesome video man. This is the 5th video Iv watched and you helped finally understand everything
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c 3 роки тому
Most people don't realize when they buy that decked out fully loaded fancy SUV or pickup that their towing capacity is significantly reduced....everything you add to a vehicle reduces its payload/towing capacity. If a truck is rated to tow 10,000lbs, its the bare bones basic 2 wheel drive model with a certain engine/transmission and axle combination....its not the same model truck in 4 wheel drive configuration with every option under the sun installed in it or on it...your towing/payload capacity is also significantly reduced after you add a lift kit, larger size tires, etc.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
100% right
@gilianrampart8514
@gilianrampart8514 3 роки тому
Mine is not barebones.
@philip600rr
@philip600rr 3 роки тому
I'm buying a small toy hauler to avoid the problems you are having. Throw all your camping stuff/Toys in the toy hauler and have plenty of capacity for the truck left over.
@sparklezandsweetztv
@sparklezandsweetztv 2 роки тому
Best Video On UKposts! So informative! Thanks soooooo much. I will be watching this again and again!
@chris092283
@chris092283 2 роки тому
I'm new to all this and was thinking of pulling an enclosed trailer for my job so this helped alot. Thank you
@bobisrighturwrong
@bobisrighturwrong 3 роки тому
There's pulling and there's stopping and controlling what you tow.
@gilianrampart8514
@gilianrampart8514 3 роки тому
And then there is safety engineering!
@eventhisidistaken
@eventhisidistaken 3 роки тому
In both of the crashes, it looks like neither of them slowed down as the trailer started to sway.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
I think the advice is to apply trailer brakes only in these situations
@1mandrywallarmytv144
@1mandrywallarmytv144 3 роки тому
@@BigRockMoto i thought trailer brakes were mandatory apparently not to them
@davidj1436
@davidj1436 3 роки тому
I don’t know about RV travel trailer, but a lot of at least older work trailers have hydraulic brakes. They only brake as the tire vehicle slows down. It is possible they had a vehicle with a tow package. If they did not understand about brake controllers it may not have been installed.
@1mandrywallarmytv144
@1mandrywallarmytv144 3 роки тому
@@davidj1436 looked like they were rear heavy causing an imbalance in weight distribution
@WisconsinDIYGuy
@WisconsinDIYGuy 3 роки тому
Excellent video. I've also had worn out trailer tires cause sway. Replaced them and all was good.
@Sekaniy
@Sekaniy 2 роки тому
Great video!! Best on YT. In process of buying a truck for everyday use and towing in the future. Loved the explanation of GVWR,GCWR, and importance of payload. They do like to tell you all these lies to make a sell, then youre stuck with an expensive truck that can tow.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 3 роки тому
Wondering if your vehicle can tow a certain trailer? Comment below and we can help you out. First, DOWNLOAD and use the calculator spreadsheet I provided above in the description: drive.google.com/file/d/1gSozUH7LuwsObkaZnY2ek0j-93N4OWtc/view?usp=sharing. Second, we can give you advice. Happy towing!
@afzski
@afzski 3 роки тому
you need to give permission to use it -- only viewable disregard -- fixed it
@RM-pn4hl
@RM-pn4hl 3 роки тому
I need help. 2005 Tacoma V6 2WD prerunner SR5 GVWR 5350 and I the electric brakes. Am looking for an RV can you help me figure out what GVWR RV I need? Thank you
@gardnetbush9768
@gardnetbush9768 3 роки тому
Hi I have been trying to figure this out the how is the tongue weight is calculated for instance my toy hauler has a tongue weight of 1500 a UVW weight of 8700 and a GVW of 12000lb so which number did they calculated the tongue weight from?
@gardnetbush9768
@gardnetbush9768 3 роки тому
One guy at a dealership told me the tongue weight was calculated off the UVW but that doesn't add up but if I do the math it came out to be 12% of my GVW is this right?
@liveworkplayvans
@liveworkplayvans 3 роки тому
Nothing in spreadsheet.
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