That's because it was largely based on rumours.

Yes I remember the BBC mocking Donald Trump for saying that it came from the China lab. (China! China! China!) 😂😂😂

@@s.r.howell1297 lol no it was only based on rumors to those who did not pay attention and put it together.

Yep. Whenever I said that and referred to the outbreaks that have happened in Wuhan for decades everyone said I was just some far-right conspiracy theorist. It's unreal man.

You are accidents are accidents

The politicisation of science? How about the blatant ignoring of science by "independent researchers". Dumb c*nts who believe Facebook articles are more valuable than scientific papers in the study of this completely new disease. They caused havoc for the world and made the pandemic way worse than it should have been. Social media companies need to be held accountable for the lies they allowed to spread.

Why is the reply censored?

Imaginary climate change

There is nothing science we need ,be it lab or any other place ,virus originated from china ,that's a fact

Great question

… if their titles were removed based on that, they really would have to do that, for sure. This is a case where their responsibility to the society has a major impact and they should respond on behalf of their decisions.

To jail for lie and destroy evidence

Probably threatened by their government not to say anything. I never felt it was a coincidence that Covid appeared as riots and protests were increasing in China. But I’d like to see some solid proof one way or the other.

Not politically sensible to dig too deep? The that to the families of the millions killed by this virus.

They should be sent to jail. It's not a lack of knowledge that needs reeducation. They knew what they were doing.

Never mind the fact that the lab it escaped from was partially funded by the US.

Governments are in on it, puppets every single one of them!

Don't forget the financial muscle. Ask Daryl Morey, Blitzchung, and many others. They still have the ability to make everyone from Disney to Musk very financially uncomfortable.

To many governments are scared the real Truth comes out and there funding of said research. Better to blame China and cover it up. Next they will say it was spread by Balloon's.

May I dare point out that the BBC is, directly or indirectly, financially enhanced by the CCP.

Says who?

@@csharpe5787 People that were before on their website listed as staff are not anymore there, and can also not be found anywhere.

Source

@@krollpeter - The lab technician being patient zero, was one of the very early deaths, as her image and profile was first to go from the Lab's website. It was this technician who went to the Wuhan seaford market unaware that she had been affected, hence the SARS-cov-2 virus entering human population and as we know is history.

@@chrismckellar9350 Around the Golden Week in October 2019, right? Yep, they had a young lady on the website, whose picture was then removed from the website's staff list, and never anyone heard about her again. Either a student or a young employer who was there since short time only. Satellite images photographed a high volume of traffic at the institute's car park days after that time. I saw the images of this, and also the image of that lady, before it was removed. There was also a job advertisement displaying the advantages of working at the institute, inclusive a video showing the work with bats. Horseshoenose bats, a kind that does not live in Wuhan. The same kind that left the genetic fingerprint in the virus.

Just like how aids started from monkeys

You can’t handle the truth

Even when our state broadcaster, UKposts or Twitter try to suppress it.

Fort Detrick Biolabs Maryland.

@Jon blame the US yet it was proven as originating from Wuhan... Interesting way to sway a conversation.

@@silveriver9 Jinping's rear end

Let justice be done though the heavens fall…

Don't wait for the BBC to pedal in truth they gave up decades ago and proffer propaganda to control our behaviour

No matter the cost? Why doesn't the cost matter?

WE ARE ALL SCREWED PEOPLE!!!!.WONDERING WHATS COMING NEXT????

There is such a thing as being right for the wrong reasons however... At the start there was no reasonable proof that the lab leak theory was true, unlike now.

Ball Sack!

Delay Lama spits nothing but the truth

Not to mention the wuhan military games 2020 and event 201

Regardless, you still need proof. A conflict of interest in itself isn't enough proof.

COVID was made by the WEST, as a smokescreen to its already 2018 started financial meltdown!

The symptoms it can cause is scary and doesn’t seem natural

Not really. It seems sensible to assume that due to poor quality of living conditions, blood and other bodily fluids would mix in wet markets. This could easily lead to beneficial mutations (for the virus), if at a large enough scale but I agree, it was interesting how much uncertainty there is in the source. It also doesn't seem unreasonable that people would dismiss such outlandish claims, with the flat earth shit and other conspiracies going around these days.

And they still do!

@@deadmemesrus1119 you believed the bat story! lol

well lets not forget the BBC also mocked Trump for saying it came from a chinese lab and denied it and also mocked anyone who said it came from a lab. now they are reporting it likely came from a lab, its hard to know when your being told the truth when the people supposed to be telling the truth decide what the truth is.

@@deadmemesrus1119 uh…no. You were a gullible leftist fool who couldn’t think critically and were projecting your worldview onto your view of SARS-Cov-2. You couldn’t possibly believe what people who didn’t share your politics KNEW to be the case. In short, you were a child. An absolutely close-minded arrogant fool. And then you try to blame the existence of other conspiracy “ideas” as clouding your judgment. What a donkey.

Not to be confused with "conspiracy theory" which is usually unfalsifiable. Any time new evidence contradicts the claims, the conspiracy gets bigger to include the source of the new evidence.

@@theprinceofpie Nor 'Critical Theory'. Being Marxian that also requires no evidence whatsoever...

@@rescyn1190 Agreed. Both the Left and Right have their conspiracy theories.

I bet you are fun at parties.

all evidences are pointing to one direction: the virus is a chinese weapon and it came from lab. otherwise, the chinese can prove their "theory" . the whole world gave them 3 years and they still refused to let investigation take place. there is an famous chinese saying" if you have nothing to fear, nothing to hide" . but they refused to investigate and attack anyone who ask to investigate.

Peter Daszak worked at Wuhan Institute of Virology before the outbreak even took place. he has a conflict of interests and is by no means impartial to this investigation. Im sure the Chinese government paid him very nicely to say what they wanted him to say.

And soooo.... Keep writing

You flipped a coin a year ago, and now you found headlines that agree with you. It’s not even consensus. When you thought it was a lab leak, you didn’t have any substantive evidence or credible agency that agreed with you. You just followed daddy Trump like a sheep, and like I said, you flipped a coin and got lucky. Interesting how conservatives are using this one sensational story to masturbate over

Absolutely. And I nearly fell over laughing when the Chinese propaganda machine spun the lie that that the origin of this virus was in the the West😂. The cheek of it !

Anyone who still has faith in BBC and other mainstream media at this point are really pathetic and should not be taken seriously when they cite information from these propaganda sources.

I’m in two minds about this, I don’t necessarily blame the media for responding with a resounding anti-racist message on this. I would not want to have been a Chinese person living abroad, especially when you had morons such as Trump actively trying to stir up hatred (among other wild conspiracy theories). Saying it is “obvious” sounds rather like the stopped clock striking. At the time there was so much bullshit flying around about the virus and the vaccination, and god knows what else, I think nothing about this is clear cut or simple.

@@btn237 I'm afraid I very much disagree. I don't agree that Trump is a moron. I think he's actually very smart. He's also very egotistical and quite boorish. Nonetheless, he was right about a lot that the media lambasted him for while he was in office. Furthermore, I don't buy the racism hysteria that the media shoehorns into almost any topic when they want to silence or discredit someone. Or even just to attract eyeballs and get clicks. And I do think it was obvious from early on what was the truth regarding covid. Anyone who based their assessment on the evidence observed by their own eyes and on the maths of the whole affair, while applying a bit of common sense, rather than believing the nonsense spewed by the media could identify the truth fairly quickly. This is being shown to be the case by the leaked whatsapp messages from the UK Government, as well as by the truth finally, slowly, being admitted in the US. It was shown by the desperate silencing of doctors who didn't toe the party line. It was shown by the illogical ever-shifting rules around covid; stay home to save the NHS, but eat out to save the restaurants. Wear a mask at work when walking about but you can take it off at your desk, presumably because the virus doesn't infect people when you're sitting down. No mass gatherings, unless you're protesting/rioting with BLM. Don't ask about the Wuhan lab, look at the pangolins, while the CCP lied about infection numbers and disappeared lab workers and doctors who tried to raise the alarm. "The vaccine is safe and effective" while the law was quickly changed to absolve manufacturers of civil liability for any adverse health effects arising as a result of the vaccine, and jabbed people still got infected and infected others. The truth is shown by people's actions and by observable reality, not by the words of media and governments. *Edit - Sorry, that's quite the rant 🙈

Oh boy when the pandemic began I saw 1 article, it came after I fuckying found a news paper online from 2015 talking about missing tubes or vials from Army facility a biological army facility with lvl 5 clearance. The papers was from a state where no one lives like Ohio, Montana some state of those where everything is just grass and not many people. So I started digging on the army and missing viruse a found an article writing details like 'a military spouse of one of the soldiers got sick, another army personnel got sick after returning from Wuhan" Such an interesting two articles I found a when the pandemic began, the one from the army missing vials was from 2013-2015 and the other one It was most likely after COVID but I don't remember.

Do you know anything? Armchair expert

Arrested? Where ? In China maybe…

The media had reported on this theory previously, but back then there was little other evidence. The only evidence back then, by looking at the sequencing of the virus, pointed to a natural causation.

@@RealMonkeyB I bet you knew everything during the pandemic and are fully boosted though lol

"Knew since day 1", pfft... they still can't say for sure. It was simply one of the possibilities which was widely discussed at the start of the pandemic (no-one was arrested). If you care about truth, you need to let the experts do their work and come to a conclusion.

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the lab is from North Carolina Chapel Hill in US tho. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/mpdjhX2Ymoydz30.html

China does not want to admit that the virus was rampant in Wuhan for months and months before they admitted its existence. This does not necessarily favor the lab origin theory. The wet market origin is just as problematic. Having wet markets is a proven way to create dangerous viruses, yet China allows them to continue. We, the global community should demand the end to these dangerous virus producing markets.

That’s just semantics for “we want to put the blame on China’s shoulders”. It could quite objectively be anything if people abandoned their emotion in evalutating the rationale of all this.

I think a more tolerable answer is, _"The preponderance of evidence points to ...."_ (China as the source) Slightly different than "we" say "it came from China," and China says, "no, it didn't," and we say ..., and China says ..., and ....... Further, this presentation pushes China to respond to the "preponderance of evidence" bit.

Well, first of all, China didn't "disappear" any whistleblowers. Second, the world's top virologists were allowed to look at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, see its facilities, its records, and interview its staff. They all unanimously concluded that it was "extremely unlikely" the virus was leaked from there, and there had never been any evidence it was. The only reason this discussion has come up again is that two U.S. government agencies, who frankly have no business looking into virology leaks - the U.S. Department of Energy and the FBI - are making claims that they cannot possibly substantiate (which is why they don't even try).

@@77thTrombone But it doesn't. Chinese media has been pointing out the obvious for years now: the first known case of covid-19 infection in a human was in France on November 17th, 2019. When the Wuhan outbreak was occurring, the virus was already in the U.S., Italy, France, Spain, etc. China has been continuously blamed for the outbreak because they were the only country to discover that covid-19 was a new virus. Of course the U.S. and its allies want to blame China for it.

the truth is that viruses exists for many millions of years and will not go away. The way they are spreaded may differ but that does not change anything. we could have prevented the spreaden in many countries but it was said we could not, because otherwise we would have made bad decisions. and politicians want to be reelected.

@@ichauch110really do not like this kind of diverting the main point to other direction. here we are talking about only one simple truth: is the virus came from the Chinese lab or not? simple. if we know this, we can do all above.

@@jt-xk4vj it has "some" source. Really this discussion is only to blame it all on asian people, its not about science. The spanish flue did not come from the Wuhan lab and it still killed millions. We dont need labs to get Corona viruses or flues. Why is that question important other than making a racist argument?

@@ichauch110 again, do not try to divert the topic to asian people. nobody blaming asian people. we are searching where did the virus came from or who is responsible for it. no one blaming someone or some group. you are kind of weird . why every time trying to divert subject and play victems card? yes. as you said spanish virus, we should call it chinese virus or wuhan virus.

@@ichauch110 millions lost their loved ones. we only wanted the truth and what happend where it came from. thats it. why someone suddenly mentioning racist? this is kind of weird. what kind of racism? simply asking the origin of virus. nothing to do with racism. i feel like you are trying to hide something

COVID was made by the WEST, as a smokescreen to its already 2018 started financial meltdown!

Exactly. Media have been denying this for 3 years but now they all want to report it and to make the people mad at china.

very true. no one cares before cause knowing so would affect them financially. now doing so is an advantage. everyone let the truth be buried willingly

Exactly. People will hold such a strong opinion on this - whilst completely ignoring the fact that there's a reason the FBI spoke now.

Because war with China is now on the horizon anyway. When we get to the start of it, I predict news will go full bore with the story. And it is the truth, I believe, that the virus came from the Wuhan Lab - with US funding unfortunately.

@@adrianalanbennett i doubt it would be a physical war, but a cold war, they want to further that divide and stoke up anti Chinese rhetoric. Its all so transparent.

What you are saying scientifically absolute nonsense. You are firing hate propaganda against China. This is another proof how degraded The West is. (imaginary CCP reaction to you)

But there isn't one chimney. These labs exist across the globe. Including UK

@@winstoningram99 R U sure you did get him?

Most probably are, yes.

Common sense seems to be something you are lacking in . The reason the lab is in that position is because it’s the region where various forms of coronavirus , not transmissible to humans , have been found . Having said that it’s not impossible that it was a leak from the lab but there is absolutely no evidence to prove it .

​@@steveosborne2297 I appreciate that you have a different opinion, I just don't agree with you.

If it can be a case, can we start the investigation on the virus laboratories in the United States first? Or carry out cross-investigation on virus laboratories in various countries at the same time around the world?

@@steveosborne2297 I think you forget the 2002 - 2003 SARS Coronavirus outbreak that killed 774 people.

@Steve Osborne - What about the 3 laboratory technicians who were all admitted to the Wuhan hospital during the same week, all suffering from an 'excessive' & 'mysterious' form of flu/pneumonia shortly before actual hospital staff fell ill with the same symptoms & all slightly prior to the outbreak of the Corona virus in Wuhan City itself? 🙄 The coincidences keep stacking up until they're no longer coincidences anymore! 🤔 There's the common sense you seem to feel is lacking, coupled with honesty should've been the way to go & not blame bloody bat's at a market thats existed for 100's years incident free. 😎

Unbiased b🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍

They are just trying to get ahead of it breaking.

It was obvious 3 years ago to anyone with half a brain! Where is their apology for spreading lies for the past 3 years?

​@@ApriliaRacer14 I've been waiting for this since March 1st sky Australia was on date with it BBC must realise its coming

you daft bugger! have you not learned yet?

That's not true. A meta-analysis looking at 36k studies found that handwashing, mask wearing, and physical distancing worked to reduce the spread. "Effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality: systematic review and meta-analysis"

Masks did help, what didn't is how disgusting ppl are and how clueless they were about cross contamination

Masks DID help prevent the virus being transmitted. It stooped people from breathing on each other and spreading the Chinese cough cough.

My reply was taken down…wonder why?…because it was the truth about masks and the stupid social distancing rubbish

💯 agree with you 👍

guess we should start injecting bleach

Actually this story doesn't "prove" anything.

While we cannot be 100% certain, few months ago a pair of complimentary studies came out that undermined the lab leak hypothesis. Via analysing the genetic code of 807 Wuhan virus samples collected before February 14th 2020, researchers discovered the outbreak was spawned by two genetically distinct viruses, known as Lineage A and Lineage B. They also found that Lineage B infected people first around mid-November, then Lineage A infected people a few weeks later. The fact that the outbreak was spawned by two different viruses, about 3 weeks apart, is not compatible with a Lab Leak Hypothesis. "We resolved this paradox by showing that early SARS-CoV-2 genomic diversity and epidemiology are best explained by at least two separate zoonotic transmissions, in which lineage A and B progenitor viruses were both circulating in nonhuman mammals before their introduction into humans (figs. S30 and S31)." However, it is compatible with a zoonotic outbreak, people getting infected by animals several times over a few weeks. Other evidence in support of an animal origin was the hotspot map they created from dozens of virus samples at the Wet Market, from counter tops, the floor, animal cages. The virus contamination showed a hotspot where live animals were kept, including racoon dogs and an unknown bird species. Reference: Worobey, M., Levy, J.I., Malpica Serrano, L., Crits-Christoph, A., Pekar, J.E., Goldstein, S.A., Rasmussen, A.L., Kraemer, M.U., Newman, C., Koopmans, M.P. and Suchard, M.A., 2022. [The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the early epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic. Science, 377(6609), pp.951-959. Pekar, J.E., Magee, A., Parker, E., Moshiri, N., Izhikevich, K., Havens, J.L., Gangavarapu, K., Malpica Serrano, L.M., Crits-Christoph, A., Matteson, N.L. and Zeller, M., 2022. The molecular epidemiology of multiple zoonotic origins of SARS-CoV-2. Science, 377(6609), pp.960-966.

It's because Trump said it came from Wuhan that they hid and dismissed evidence in the first place.

Pretty insane that most people thought they did not. Especially given the lies of the Iraq war.

Dr Anthony Flip Flop Fauci lol

Nature finds a way 😎 ..sorry had to 🤣🦖

Why would he need to take out the motor to measure horse power? Can just put the whole car on a dyno.

@@nunyabizness9955 please lookup what the word ‘analogy’ means.

@@nunyabizness9955because the whole car is dangerous and can be driven off. The engine alone can’t

No facts and science, please. This is UKposts. It's a place for armchair pundits and morons to discuss conspiracy theories

Fuck the Wuhun

WHO?…there corrupt and run by q guy who has no scientific background whatsoever…

It's from the pizza i ate in March 2019, I have a reason to believe it is earlier than wuhan in Nov/Dec 2019.

Low confidence still means it's likely

More than a maybe if you ask me

@@CaffeinatedMarketing NO ! It does not. It means maybe. And I didn't ask you.

For context, the report claiming that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction had "moderate confidence".

@@theprinceofpie Thanks. Exactly.

While we cannot be 100% certain, few months ago scientists discovered the outbreak was sparked by two separate viruses, that infected people about 3 weeks apart. If they are correct, it disproved the lab leak scenario. The analysis was based on the genetic analysis of over 800 virus samples collected in Wuhan before Feb 14 2020. Another piece of evidence in support of an animal origin was the fact that the highest virus contamination levels were found at the animal cages in the market, where racoon dogs were kept (previously known to host SARS coronavirus that caused the 2002-03 SARS coronavirus outbreak). Reference: Worobey, M., Levy, J.I., Malpica Serrano, L., Crits-Christoph, A., Pekar, J.E., Goldstein, S.A., Rasmussen, A.L., Kraemer, M.U., Newman, C., Koopmans, M.P. and Suchard, M.A., 2022. The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the early epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic. Science, 377(6609), pp.951-959. Pekar, J.E., Magee, A., Parker, E., Moshiri, N., Izhikevich, K., Havens, J.L., Gangavarapu, K., Malpica Serrano, L.M., Crits-Christoph, A., Matteson, N.L. and Zeller, M., 2022. The molecular epidemiology of multiple zoonotic origins of SARS-CoV-2. Science, 377(6609), pp.960-966.levels

We are at war!

Yes, and the FBI is not impartial. Scientists are responsible for the investigation.

Considering what we know the CIA have done, I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI was involved in the whole thing, and that's why they don't want to release the information.

Chinese authorities?...dude...ALL authorities were acting shady a.f

how long did it take to find the natural origin of AIDS? 15yrs

I'm sure worse things have happened

I hope you are well , My regards😀

until Nordstream Gate

I hope you get better soon - and your family. May God bless you with healing, grace, and mercy.

@@adrianalanbennett thank you ❤️ we appreciate your prayers

No, it used to be a theory. Theories need evidence to become fact, and the evidence is only now coming out

No, it is not settled. Probably never will be. It generally depends on who you ask. If you ask a politician it's from a lab, if you ask a scientist it came from animals.

Ignore the other commenters, it's a fact. This whole thing has been a sham and most of the government has been complicit.

@@Diamonddavej Depends which scientist you ask🤷‍♂

Facebook user detected 🤖

since when BBC became a hunt dog.

Here you go 💰💵💵💵

😂

The very fact that the Chinese are very uncooperative and obstructionist is extremely salient and itself makes it much more likely that it’s a lab origin bc if it didn’t come from the lab, the Chinese would leap to share information to exonerate themselves and advance the crucial science. The fact they are instead covering up tells us a whole lot. Res Ipsa Loquitor: the cover up speaks for itself!

Mainstream media is corrupt af

Both

Nowadays one cannot take for granted any information from any source without digging further, unfortunately… (and wait for AI… ⚠️ big warning signs…)

same thing!

Both

Why what money.

cui bono

@@thenoseboyYou mean the Chinese used a part US funded research lab as a cover?

​@The noseboy China scapegoat.

but we do not have the evidence to prove it .

I had a Good day My Dear and how about you ?

I hope you are well , My regards😀

@@Raulsta1985 thank you for your astute observation who deregulated banks in 2018 leading to 3 bank failures in the last week? Don't tell me I know the answer...

Yup, more donation flows by 🧸

I hope you are well , My regards😀

Let's hope soon truth coming out! More effort need to be done to extract within Wuhan region.

It doesn't matter what they wanted - it's what they did that matters! Million of people are dead!

COVID was made by the WEST, as a smokescreen to its already 2018 started financial meltdown!

I agree, humans are dumb

Ballon d’or?

how long did it take to find the natural origin of AIDS? 15yrs. you are jumping into the media trap too willingly

because Biden's people back in Covert operation in Ukraine control it now

You better believe it,best president since JFK

I had a Good day My Dear and how about you ?

I hope you are well , My regards😀

If orange man had said that grass is green the BBC would have a team of "journalists" trying to convince us all it's pink.

orange man also suggested injecting bleach

they are covering up the Nordstream. u are being fooled

I blame China and China must be made to pay full global damages and until then ALL trade should be ceased with them. President Pooh bear needs to learn the China needs Western trade and money more then the West needs cheap poorly made Chinese products.

@@Jeffoneil.BanburyHairSalon. 100%

Except that wasn't what you people originally claimed. They were saying that it was a Chinese engineered bioweapon deliberately released to take power, and reduce the population.

That’s right

the same thing happened to asians after japan attacked pearl harbor. American has always been like this

What if it turns out the lab was run by a USA company. What then.

@@Courierman6 it’s not just in America, it could happen anywhere, otherwise you wouldn’t hear of all the tragic things that do and have gone on in the rest of the world. Anyway, while some ignorant people might attempt to stir the pot, that won’t fly in today’s laws and media.

You mean like how society targeted unvaccinated people during the pandemic, for a vaccine that didn't even stop the spread? Society always looks for a group where it's acceptable to discriminate. Human behaviour evolves and changes over time, but it never changes in nature.