What's making EVs dirtier than Diesel? | Akshay Singhal | TEDxGateway

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Akshay Singhal calls attention to the real environmental cost of electric vehicles and how they can be made greener if we transform the way we charge our vehicles. He appeals for the use of batteries with long life, low range, and high efficiency - all while bringing surprising facts to our plate. Dr. Akshay Singhal is the Founder & CEO of Log 9 Materials. He is a young and dynamic entrepreneur and a 2019 Forbes Under30 Asia awardee -- who stands to solve the pressing global issue of climate change with the power of nanotechnology and innovation. His start-up “nannovates” with the objective to pave a sustainable and better future for humankind by using the wonder material - ‘Graphene’. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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@morris_c0de463
@morris_c0de463 2 роки тому
I like the visual representation, but I would have preferred some statistics, as that was his original claim to research. The only statistic mentioned is a green threshold at 100000km. This is an incredibly important topic if this is accurate information, and I wanted more depth than 1:30
@Krupaka2states
@Krupaka2states 2 роки тому
Primary source of electricity generation should be clean..
@Trevor7727
@Trevor7727 2 роки тому
Several Wall Street VC’s have told me the same……
@LisaMaryMarsh
@LisaMaryMarsh 2 роки тому
The latest study on global comparison of lifecycle GHG emission of electric vehicles and combustion engines debunks most of the arguments asserting that electric vehicles pollute more than diesel vehicles. The study was published by International Council on Clean Transportation in 2021 and considers electricity mix in different countries such as USA, China, India and Europe. Specifically for India, Battery Electric cars are 19%-34% lower in lifetime emissions compared to combustion vehicles. I encourage anyone interested in this topic to read it.
@vijaybhai4866
@vijaybhai4866 Рік тому
Very true. EVs are cleaner anyway you slice it
@CustomQualityElgin
@CustomQualityElgin Рік тому
What disturbs and worries me is the scientists who are funded to do the research are the ones who agree with the root causes of climate change as determined by the UN and various governments. I am very familiar with research designed to show a favorable or agreeable result. The Canadian government for example is out right lying to Canadians about the consequences of climate change and our role in mitigating change and using science to prove the value of their solutions.
@coastguy6524
@coastguy6524 7 місяців тому
One important thing I have not seen sliced into most of these studies is the added cost of new batteries every 10-20 years (yes they will eventually get better) but what we have not is misleading. Most ICE engines will last 4-5 times this as evident by older cars still driving around. Now if you had to dig minerals and build a new/replacement engine in same timeframe then things are getting closer to even but they currently are not!
@anthonytrujillo106
@anthonytrujillo106 Місяць тому
The cars don't emit but the power plants do!!!! Charging efficiency in one hour charging is only 5.88%. Fast charging Wastes most of the electricity!!!!
@durgasrinvasvishnumolakala8969
@durgasrinvasvishnumolakala8969 2 роки тому
How about using less cars and more public transport for increasing efficiency?
@steveb.3053
@steveb.3053 2 роки тому
Ride-sharing systems are the solution, the only problem is the willingness of the riders to share.
@CustomQualityElgin
@CustomQualityElgin Рік тому
that only works if you live in a city and push digital paper for a living
@michaelwhite6461
@michaelwhite6461 2 місяці тому
ahh but there was no mention of the environmental impact of extracting, transporting and refining diesel........it is often omitted from representations like this. One study approximated it to roughly an additional 30% on top of the emissions you produce directly from the vehicle. Having worked in the oil industry on the shipping side - I would be surprised if it's any less than that. The differences in environmental impact around the world for running electric cars are enormous depending on the primary source of energy for the generation of energy. With a shift to more renewables or nuclear power - the cross-over point of EV's being lower emissions than their ICE counterparts reduces drastically. For example it's now estimated that the initial 'debt' of producing a new EV is 'paid off' in Norway after roughly a year........but then with over 95% of all energy coming from hydro electric, Norway is pretty unique. It's not always about 'overall environmental impact' either. In some cases, the biggest benefit is to the local environment and that can have a lot of positive effects (as he mentioned the smog problems). However, going full EV is just not viable unless there is a substantial investment in the entire infrastructure to support it - and that doesn't happen unless there is full agreement at the highest levels.....half measures just won't cut it.
@prasanthchunduri3085
@prasanthchunduri3085 Рік тому
What about production of diesel and transportation of diesel to fuel stations.
@tyrastravels7468
@tyrastravels7468 2 роки тому
It’s is true that from a CO2 emissions perspective, if an economy is based on thermal coal EVs take a lot longer to get to net zero against ICEVs. In Europe the only example is Poland, and that is over a 50,000km lifetime. India should stop relying on thermal, oil and gas power generation and these “statistics” (or lack of) make sense. Also you are ignoring particulate matter emissions. India should be particularly concerned with this. No particulate emissions from EVs and if you insist on generating thermal power at least these have better filters than your cars.
@mantrik007
@mantrik007 2 роки тому
Very convenient and partly self serving argument. In case of manufacture of EVs he is tracing back to the mining of minerals and production of batteries. Why not add the polluting factor of every litre of diesel the ICE car will consume, not just in terms of the cars emissions but also in the process of drilling the crude oil, its refinement and transportation? This will bring out an apples-to-apples comparison. By the way, is it a coincidence that an oil company is sponsoring this talk?
@mantrik007
@mantrik007 2 роки тому
Similarly, if tracing back to the minerals is the approach then all the pollution caused in the processes ranging from mining to manufacture of every bit of metal and components used in the production of EVs and ICE cars should be taken into account. So, a comparison should be made for the entire value chain from the minerals to the assembly of cars and for the entire life cycle of the car.
@bigcountry5520
@bigcountry5520 Рік тому
Batteries are the weak point in EV tech. Batteries will sink the industry. I PROMISE.
@CustomQualityElgin
@CustomQualityElgin Рік тому
The amount of diesel needed to mine the material for batteries for Canada would provide enough fuel for every diesel engine in Canada
@63Hash
@63Hash 10 місяців тому
When Crude is refined it yields hundreds of products, so the cost of production will need to be pro-rata spread over that
@okman9684
@okman9684 6 місяців тому
​@@CustomQualityElgingives actual data, do not trust me for justification. I can also say for sure that every ev in Canada can be run 10x times by the amount of energy used to transport oil from rig to the pumps
@mikereinhardt1244
@mikereinhardt1244 6 місяців тому
You didn't give any numbers and I suspect that your numbers are wrong or dated, but also they vary greatly based on your electricity mix. India may have one set of electric production, US, EU (and each country there), China, etc.. different. Even if I take your numbers as fact (which I don't without a lot of background info that was not given), the cars last longer than 100K miles (much less 100K kilometers). In the EU and US the batteries are warrantied that long and the modern ones are lasting over 300K miles (500K kilometers) on average. And yes we do know this because we have commercial batteries that have lasted that long. Second point even if with your current grid the benefits are not going to be realized for 100K kilometers (which again, they will last much longer than that, even the battery), decoupling the transportation from the grid is a good idea. If people keep driving diesel they are tied to burning fossil fuels for the life of those vehicles. If they drive an EV as the grid gets cleaner the EV gets greener. Third, coal (which is what you are using for a comparison), is the fastest fossil fuel to be removed from the worlds electricity mix. It is rapidly being replaced by either renewables or natural gas (not diesel in most places) simple because of cost. Natural gas being the worst option there, is much cleaner burning than diesel, and more efficient in conversion to electricity. My point is that even if what you say is true people should not be holding off on buying an EV and buy diesel cars for the reasons you give. Even with the current battery technology it is better for the environment to buy an EV than it is to buy diesel. Cost too for the US and EU at least. I don't know what EV pricing is where you did this study. In the US the TCO for an EV has been lower than an ICE car since 2018, they tend to break even between 2-4 years now. Given that the loans are 5 years on most cars you will simply pay less for an EV than an equivalent ICE car. People that choose not to buy an EV for cost are not doing the math. There are plenty of reasons not to buy and EV for lifestyle fit, but the cost is not a realistic reason to do it. I should clarify, that is new EV vs. a choice of buying a new ICE car. If you are on the used market it is infinitely more complex.
@annettenpaul
@annettenpaul Рік тому
You lost me as soon as you blamed 'climate change' for tsunamis!
@CustomQualityElgin
@CustomQualityElgin Рік тому
People blame everything on climate change now - including mental illness. It is easy to get government grants if you get on the "Green Gravy Train"
@michaelpeeples1126
@michaelpeeples1126 9 місяців тому
Yep
@krushnat8053
@krushnat8053 Місяць тому
If it is so, why aren't EVs banned yet??
@battery_wattage
@battery_wattage 15 днів тому
If it isn’t obvious, vehicle ownership is inherently costly to emissions. You would need to ban vehicle ownership, (which would not fly at all in many markets). Also the data from these Ted Talks against EVs are questionable. If you ever remember watching Graham Conway’s Ted Talk, his figures for the average emissions over the life of a gas car is FAR FAR LESS than publicly available data for a Toyota Camry. They cherry pick data.
@user-mt4ny2zw7t
@user-mt4ny2zw7t 2 роки тому
I don't know how he got his number but 100,000 km is that much. He is making it seem like some far off thing
@sajeewakalamba1796
@sajeewakalamba1796 Рік тому
I feel bad about the presenter because of his lack of knowledge in modern EVs. He didn't consider few facts knowingly or unknowingly, 1. Modern Car batteries do not always depend on rare earth metals. They use Na, Li, Fe, which are easy to get through less polluted ways. 2. Modern car batteries have long life. They come with 8 years warranty & last more than 10 years. Thereafter they do not go to dumps & used in battery storages to power houses or supplement national grids. They are used for min. 15 years. 3. Many countries where EV sales are high, do not use diesel or coal to generate electricity. They have nuclear power or large portion of alternative green energy such as solar or wind power. 4. Countries like India can easily encourage EV buyers to fix solar panels on top of their roofs to make their cars really green. India gets plenty of sun year around. 5. A small car dispose min. 100+ liters of burnt engine oil for every 100,000 kilometer. In countries such as India, those oils are not recycled. Either they leaked in to rivers or burnt as substitute in industrial furnaces. This presenter avoid this fact entirely. 6. EVs are much simpler machines than ICE. They have the motor & the battery which are seal type. There are many other parts of diesel/petrol cars (in engine, power transmission & cooling system) such as rubber valves, bushes, grease, etc. which pollute the environment in its production & disposal. 7. This presenter does not consider that efficiency of energy conversation in power plat is much higher than automobiles. This highlights a problem in Educated Indians & their business community. They mostly consider India as the world & failed to look beyond boundaries of India. They are reluctant to adopt foreign knowledge/experience & most of the time try to develop their own. This make them lagging generations behind other courtiers in technology. If they look & get inspired by China, Europe & Amerika, this presentation would be much more helpful for better India & world.
@nicolagianaroli2024
@nicolagianaroli2024 Рік тому
Concerning the point 7 you have mentioned. Wikipedia is reporting the following. Typical thermal efficiency for utility-scale electrical generators is around 37% for coal and oil-fired plants, and 56 - 60% (LEV) for combined-cycle gas-fired plants.". As far as I know the efficiency of a conventional motor can reach 40%. One aspect which is not considered in this video is safety and on this front EV is a much worse technology because of fire hazard and because of the fact that the weight is in average 25-30% than equivalent car with conventional engine. EV is also more prone to show problem if the enviromental condition are not ideal. EV doesn't like temperature which are too low or too high. it also doesn't like moisture especially if in presence of salt. Such condition could even induce to phenomenon of self ignition and putting out a battery in flame is damn hard
@okman9684
@okman9684 6 місяців тому
​@@nicolagianaroli2024fuel cars also have the same problem. Even if one part stops working your car is stuck. So your gas car has 1000s of parts and some parts do fail and stop often than an ev with less part and a good Battery Management System
@andersstengaardjensen2208
@andersstengaardjensen2208 2 роки тому
Very credible😂
@DineshBhatia
@DineshBhatia Рік тому
Get your facts right you are so wrong
@redfern_mike
@redfern_mike Місяць тому
bullsh.t
@SaidAlRashdi
@SaidAlRashdi 3 місяці тому
The most uneducated tedx talk so far.
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