“When I say sleaze, which party comes to mind?” | LBC

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The word 'sleaze' became synonymous with politicians in the 1990s - and still sticks to Westminster today. The latest in a recent string of scandals concerns Mark Menzies, who allegedly misused campaign funds to pay off 'bad people' who were holding him hostage in a flat.
But is this a problem that affects the entirety of Parliament? Or is one party more guilty than others? That's the question Shelagh Fogarty poses to LBC listeners. To discuss this, she's joined by political columnist Rafael Behr, who wrote the book 'Politics: A Survivors Guide.'
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@lizardtattoo1
@lizardtattoo1 14 днів тому
Because many of the Tories don't see their job as representing the people- they think they RULE the people.
@bellywood7688
@bellywood7688 13 днів тому
Rees mogg with his feet up in the house of commons
@cupguin
@cupguin 14 днів тому
I think you'll find Tory MPs are far less likely to have ever sold a council house, can't imagine why that is, and as such we must trust that they are incorruptible.
@georgec7899
@georgec7899 14 днів тому
LOL LOL Reality seems to have escaped you TOTALLY!
@cupguin
@cupguin 14 днів тому
@@georgec7899 Or sarcasm has totally escaped you.
@Chasingthelight_67
@Chasingthelight_67 14 днів тому
@@cupguin😂
@EdJames-tb9oz
@EdJames-tb9oz 14 днів тому
​@@cupguin Add a ellipsis (...) when using sarcasm. It how you write sarcasm. Many people still won't get it but that's how you write sarcastically.
@IMBlakeley
@IMBlakeley 14 днів тому
@@georgec7899 Whoose
@sbrown314
@sbrown314 14 днів тому
What are the Tories playing? The same game they've been playing for the last 200 years. Which is to pretend to act for the middle class but in reality acting for special interest groups or themselves. It's time the average person woke up to this.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 днів тому
💯
@Rancid-wd3ty
@Rancid-wd3ty 14 днів тому
Sleaze= tories. Simple as.
@nazarethpa1833
@nazarethpa1833 14 днів тому
No, wrong way round.........Tories=sleeze!!
@jeddward9464
@jeddward9464 14 днів тому
What no liebour? you don't think they are corrupt, it's 99% of all politicians, sweep clean vote reform, we may have a chance....
@chatham43
@chatham43 14 днів тому
@rancid Certainly simplistic.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 днів тому
💯👍
@jhonson7079
@jhonson7079 14 днів тому
Lady porter in the 1980 stole hundreds of council properties another Torie
@sarahashun1180
@sarahashun1180 13 днів тому
Yep, fled to Israel and avoided the law.
@user-sd3ik9rt6d
@user-sd3ik9rt6d 14 днів тому
He slipped, fell and found himself inside the young man from Brazil and needed the £5k to say thank you, no, sorry, I meant to say sorry.
@breamoreboy
@breamoreboy 14 днів тому
Have you been watching Little Britain again? 😊
@user-sd3ik9rt6d
@user-sd3ik9rt6d 14 днів тому
@@breamoreboy Maybe
@sarangistudent8614
@sarangistudent8614 13 днів тому
@@breamoreboyAli G, too. The Tories, where parody has no chance.
@alana8863
@alana8863 13 днів тому
I think he was taking a Murry Mint out of the glove compartment when he fell into the rent boy.
@ThomasKing19933
@ThomasKing19933 14 днів тому
Tories. Simple as that.
@jeffsimon9594
@jeffsimon9594 14 днів тому
You certainly are 'Simple as that'.
@ThomasKing19933
@ThomasKing19933 14 днів тому
​@@jeffsimon9594 No problem 👍
@kevinjohnson3782
@kevinjohnson3782 14 днів тому
​@@ThomasKing19933Take no notice. It's the tories every time. Snouts in the trough as usual.
@chatham43
@chatham43 14 днів тому
Certainly Simplistic
@PassiveAgressive319
@PassiveAgressive319 14 днів тому
Remember when the Tories circled Clare Short in 1997 because she had a child out of wedlock? Literally the Angela Rayner story of its day, a nothing burger. It was such weak counter attack. Such a throwback
@chatham43
@chatham43 14 днів тому
@passive What are you rambling on about now?
@vinceely2906
@vinceely2906 14 днів тому
We’re not going to have a general election on a particular day this year. The plan seems to be to just have by-elections in every constituency instead.
@ieuanpugh-jones5284
@ieuanpugh-jones5284 14 днів тому
Haha😀
@richardruff8712
@richardruff8712 14 днів тому
The ' plan ' is to have ' no plan ' whatsoever.... Very simple !
@dianap6264
@dianap6264 14 днів тому
These people are a disgrace, full stop
@intervention.07
@intervention.07 14 днів тому
The minute one allows ones behaviour, issues, whatever, to affect others, one loses the right to sympathy. This government is unfit and should resign, now! I personally don't recognise this government
@jhonson7079
@jhonson7079 14 днів тому
Lady porter in the 1980 stole council property another Tory
@MichaelSmith-ns8ow
@MichaelSmith-ns8ow 14 днів тому
There’s a Que.
@EdJames-tb9oz
@EdJames-tb9oz 14 днів тому
Well I've read 1984 so bits are familiar.
@kevinjohnson3782
@kevinjohnson3782 14 днів тому
I do. They have always been like it.
@joestraughan3944
@joestraughan3944 14 днів тому
Tory is the Gaelic word for outlaw/robber! Quite apt!
@sasserine
@sasserine 14 днів тому
I foresee a tsunami of Little Britain memes, arising from this one MP. "While attempting to deliver urgent aid, to a distressed Brazilian dancer with his visa application, I tripped over the dog that had consumed my unattended whiskey, the buttons on my trousers popped, and I ended up inside him, both of us attempting to free ourselves, we tumbled down the cellar stairs, the door swang shut behind us, and we found ourselves locked in, only seeing the light of day by calling my constituency headquarters to release £10,000 in untraceable funds to procure the services of a locksmith..."
@callum4796
@callum4796 13 днів тому
It hasn't aged well 🤣
@robbie9629
@robbie9629 14 днів тому
How can you feel sorry for this bloke! He thought he'd got away with it, the whips knew about it, yet they kept him in place, right up until he was exposed by the newspapers
@waynekeenansvideos
@waynekeenansvideos 14 днів тому
Self entitled privately educated MP's usually
@Dynasty1818
@Dynasty1818 14 днів тому
Labour then
@tobypettit6417
@tobypettit6417 14 днів тому
@@Dynasty181841% of Tory MPs are privately educated, compared to 14% of Labour MPs being privately educated.
@SM808UK
@SM808UK 14 днів тому
​@@Dynasty1818​ There are around 650 MPs in Parliament, of which 29% are privately educated. 360 of the 650 MPs are Conservative, 41% of Conservative MPs were privately educated, this means 22% of the 29% total. Or around 75% of all the privately educated MPs in Parliament are from the Conservative party.
@brachiator1
@brachiator1 14 днів тому
Every time I try to tell friends that people from any social class or political party can be corrupt, the Tories do something to prove me wrong.
@3ddieLowFilth5layer
@3ddieLowFilth5layer 14 днів тому
Rules to live by; 1. Once a Tory, always a Tory 2. Never trust a Tory 3. Never forget rule number 1 and rule number 2 👍
@Silver-st2zq
@Silver-st2zq 14 днів тому
4th one never vote Tory.
@michaelnovak6928
@michaelnovak6928 14 днів тому
'ilegal immigrants' - to avoid a flight to Rwanda (actually, don't worry, it'll never happen) simply state that you are a rent boy.
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 14 днів тому
It should be illegal to misspell the word "illegal". 😮
@chatham43
@chatham43 14 днів тому
@michael What's wrong with Rwanda.I wonder?😊😊
@sarangistudent8614
@sarangistudent8614 13 днів тому
@@chatham43ask the 21 odd asylum seekers Rwanda have LEGALLY sent here since the ‘deal’ was signed. That’s right, we’ve paid them over £500MILLION for them to send their illegal immigrants to us. I think that’s great value for money, somehow I don’t think you do.
@michaelnovak6928
@michaelnovak6928 12 днів тому
Well, there's a question. According to the information on the Rwanda 'plan' Wikipedia page, for every person sent from Britain Rwanda will send one back (in fact it says Rwanda will send an unspecified number back). Moreover, Rwanda will not take people who have criminal records. Interesting that they're kept those points quiet when reporting about it in the media, Is Rwanda safe? Hopefully. Since 2022 6 Rwandans have been granted asylum in the UK.
@Royboy50
@Royboy50 10 днів тому
Just say I have fear of flying that's why arrived by boat
@i-am-vonnegut
@i-am-vonnegut 14 днів тому
It's a set in stone characteristic of the Conservative mind ( MPs and supporting voters) to sit on the moral high ground and look down on others with an almost disgust. Meanwhile behind closed doors........
@catherinemartin6258
@catherinemartin6258 14 днів тому
Conservatives all day every day .
@stevebryant5510
@stevebryant5510 14 днів тому
The Conservative party , the gift that keeps on giving !!
@debbywilliams9172
@debbywilliams9172 14 днів тому
Corruption at the highest level under shittysunak
@Keepinitreal61
@Keepinitreal61 14 днів тому
2 secs. TORIES. No question.
@SmokeroftheFuture
@SmokeroftheFuture 14 днів тому
1 sec. LABOUR No question.
@AgentGreyFox
@AgentGreyFox 14 днів тому
Where's the Daily Mail now?
@kevinwilliams1421
@kevinwilliams1421 14 днів тому
It is on the mail on line…it’s buried down with a little tiny picture
@user-hv7kt9zc3m
@user-hv7kt9zc3m 14 днів тому
Welcome to the age of the corrupt Torie
@starmersbarber
@starmersbarber 14 днів тому
I think that age started many decades ago!
@richardruff8712
@richardruff8712 14 днів тому
@@starmersbarber Yes, probably about the time of Heath and Thatcher...
@stevebryant5510
@stevebryant5510 14 днів тому
Calling people of this caliber flawed is possibly overly generous ?
@just_watching_you_tube
@just_watching_you_tube 14 днів тому
Labour is there to serve the public, the Tories are there for the power trip of feeling self important as an MP
@Mikey72182
@Mikey72182 14 днів тому
*Not under Starmer, they aren't. Starmer has purged the Labour party and made it virtually no different to the Tories.*
@polarisnorth4875
@polarisnorth4875 13 днів тому
😂​@@Mikey72182
@stop-the-greed
@stop-the-greed 9 днів тому
​@@Mikey72182we don't know that
@Mikey72182
@Mikey72182 9 днів тому
@stop-the-greed *Google Wes Streeting and his amazing plans to continue NHS privatisation. Liz Kendall also showing her blue colours talking about cutting benefits for disabled people to encourage them to get into work! How Tory can you be?*
@obiassist
@obiassist 14 днів тому
Tories, 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
@richyjay330
@richyjay330 14 днів тому
Con party. Who else?
@lesleyrobertson5465
@lesleyrobertson5465 14 днів тому
How do they think they can get away with it because they can. Prince Andrew then Tory Party
@user-nj1qu1cs7s
@user-nj1qu1cs7s 14 днів тому
unfortunately they are getting away with it, what other country would allow these people to walk free putting the countries security at risk and don't bother about the billions of pounds they've stolen from the public purse.
@stevewilliams2691
@stevewilliams2691 12 днів тому
The US under Trump?
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 14 днів тому
I blame the (private) schools for encouraging entitlement and dumbing down due diligence. (Yes, 😉👍, he did go to one...on an assisted fees scheme).
@lesterfalcon1350
@lesterfalcon1350 14 днів тому
Basic pay is £91,346 before costs.
@wayneford2481
@wayneford2481 14 днів тому
9:52 Costs = expenses. Like 2nd houses. Travelling to work. Food in the parliament cantine. Drinks in the parliament bar.?????
@adamedge128
@adamedge128 14 днів тому
What?? The privileged tories don't need that kind of money. They love taking money from the poorest for a laugh I think
@lesterfalcon1350
@lesterfalcon1350 14 днів тому
@@wayneford2481 drugs, rent boys
@caboosealmighty3735
@caboosealmighty3735 12 днів тому
@@wayneford2481 I think the average expenses claim is about £200-250,000
@rchas1023
@rchas1023 14 днів тому
I read somewhere that they have too much spare time on their hands [ Parris ? ]
@patrickburns574
@patrickburns574 14 днів тому
What an irrelevant rhetorical question no doubt aimed to conflate all MPs as being corrupt.
@stephanguitar9778
@stephanguitar9778 14 днів тому
All tories are.
@alexvince461
@alexvince461 14 днів тому
Tories can always get lower
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 14 днів тому
name a tory who isnt corrupt?
@coppershark1973
@coppershark1973 14 днів тому
When I say CORRUPTION, which party comes to mind? FTFY
@zoranblackie5921
@zoranblackie5921 14 днів тому
When you take on charismatic idealogues above competent technocrats...
@karenwright8025
@karenwright8025 14 днів тому
Ty for putting into context the issue of how candidates are being chosen. I wonder how, as voters, we can effectively change the narrative, in a democracy whose logic base is competing self-interests (btw, I’m American), to one of consensus-building wellbeing?
@yackulb1
@yackulb1 13 днів тому
It's very simple answer. They are privileged and what ever they do, do not dare to criticise
@christopherj8280
@christopherj8280 14 днів тому
All pigs feeding from the same trough
@mauricetucker8754
@mauricetucker8754 14 днів тому
Where is the local conservative party chairman and committee that must have a view on things going wrong?
@jasoncooper9391
@jasoncooper9391 14 днів тому
Oh dear James daly throwing stones at Green Houses again 😂😂😂😂😂
@user-tx1rr3rb1q
@user-tx1rr3rb1q 14 днів тому
My question regarding this is he was locked in a place with people demanding money he asked someone to send him money because he was in danger. Them grant shapps of all people came out again him again defending the undefendable we are on the verge of all out war which could happen at any time and this happens.
@David_Bower
@David_Bower 14 днів тому
Unfortunately, none of the ones I've been invited to in the last 20 years.
@MARKSTRINGFELLOW1
@MARKSTRINGFELLOW1 14 днів тому
Nobody has kicked the tyres on the candidacy 😂😂
@kevinwilliams1421
@kevinwilliams1421 14 днів тому
I would love to see my bosses reaction to me phoning him asking to open the petty cash to pay for my bugle and brasses when I’m out on a mad one
@TheGearsofwar2010
@TheGearsofwar2010 13 днів тому
The Tories are obscene.
@duncanbradshaw8993
@duncanbradshaw8993 12 днів тому
What do you expect farts to do?
@wevminster234
@wevminster234 13 днів тому
Which party??? All of them!!
@disenchantedwanderer9033
@disenchantedwanderer9033 13 днів тому
The syatem itself creates this in the political system and political parties and politicians. So I don't think of parties, I think, the system. As such, all the parties are afflicted with this problem.
@stop-the-greed
@stop-the-greed 9 днів тому
It's contempt
@richardgough1393
@richardgough1393 13 днів тому
Compassion?🤣😭
@zingo2664
@zingo2664 14 днів тому
all of them
@johngalvin3124
@johngalvin3124 12 днів тому
Boris and the Tories who aided and abetted him! Still about, aren't they...?
@akaski777
@akaski777 14 днів тому
It’s the working class tories
@Royboy50
@Royboy50 10 днів тому
The ah ah ah ah ah tory party, bless you I thought you said snease
@wendyholland2339
@wendyholland2339 14 днів тому
BOTH ARE
@TheWaveGoodbye-Music
@TheWaveGoodbye-Music 14 днів тому
Who did you vote for again Shelia?
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 днів тому
Tories, principally. 😏
@stop-the-greed
@stop-the-greed 9 днів тому
Sir Jimmy savile thatchers mate .
@philipernstzen7702
@philipernstzen7702 14 днів тому
Raphael being quite charitable there.
@kendiamond8722
@kendiamond8722 13 днів тому
They're preventing the course of justice, who ever knew about it and kept it quiet, they need to be investigated 😮tory headquarters 😂
@Ztandard32
@Ztandard32 11 днів тому
Likud?
@TheSashapooch
@TheSashapooch 14 днів тому
Oh, Shelagh ... you only have to look in the mirror to familiarize yourself with the concept of 'having to please' a certain group of people.
@simonwood1402
@simonwood1402 14 днів тому
🧠 The Tories come to mind!
@pipins3616
@pipins3616 14 днів тому
Two come to mind
@markrhoden68
@markrhoden68 14 днів тому
Is it the Tory mindset? By the very nature you feel that Tory values suit you best do you have a superiority complex and hence you feel normal behaviour doesn't apply to you
@pickeledminister317
@pickeledminister317 14 днів тому
Both
@peterfox2538
@peterfox2538 14 днів тому
Tories first Labour 2nd.
@anonitachi7488
@anonitachi7488 13 днів тому
"serve" is an outdated and laughable term. Politics is a self-serving, gravy train. The known and proven track to power and money. It's a career.
@e575fho
@e575fho 14 днів тому
Tories for sure!
@Durka-Durka01
@Durka-Durka01 13 днів тому
All of them in Parliament and in the Lords. They're all on the take.
@stevewilliams2691
@stevewilliams2691 12 днів тому
Er....no ...
@Durka-Durka01
@Durka-Durka01 12 днів тому
@@stevewilliams2691 errrrr, yes! 🙄
@stevewilliams2691
@stevewilliams2691 12 днів тому
@@Durka-Durka01 Can you provide me any evidence that all those in both commons and Lords are criminals? I grant some are..but all?
@Durka-Durka01
@Durka-Durka01 11 днів тому
@@stevewilliams2691 who mentioned criminality?! I said on the take....do you not understand English?
@stevewilliams2691
@stevewilliams2691 11 днів тому
@@Durka-Durka01 Next you will be telling me your a Brexiter. Which sorts of completes my picture of you
@greamespens1460
@greamespens1460 14 днів тому
Sheila just had a caller stating that woman are made of sterner stuff, rather a sexist comment
@scottandcoke1342
@scottandcoke1342 14 днів тому
When i say defender of the apartheid state of Israel, which LBC presenter comes to mind?
@GanghisKhan
@GanghisKhan 14 днів тому
Nick Ferrari and ian Dale
@Anon-xd3cf
@Anon-xd3cf 14 днів тому
Say?
@scottandcoke1342
@scottandcoke1342 14 днів тому
Tom and Sheila too and the younger one with the big head
@Anon-xd3cf
@Anon-xd3cf 14 днів тому
All of them. Even the one that calls out Israel... Still defends israels "right to exist" and "right to self defence" against occupied people. All of them call Hamas "terrorists" rather than armed resistance. And none of them have the guts to call out the UKs role in "BATTLE TESTING" weapons systems on an occupied people... Name one LBC presenter who is NOT a zionist?
@user-sd3ik9rt6d
@user-sd3ik9rt6d 14 днів тому
When I say irrelevant comment, who comes to mind.
@alexvince461
@alexvince461 14 днів тому
Tories gonna Tory
@lobintool
@lobintool 11 днів тому
Tories!
@user-em3vl6li5w
@user-em3vl6li5w 14 днів тому
Tories.
@tomcharles8786
@tomcharles8786 14 днів тому
🤑
@RichardSmallwood-du9qb
@RichardSmallwood-du9qb 14 днів тому
Shelagh, why are you spouting "Whataboutism"? When it's so much current Toryism that seems to be the theme?
@Joshua_Jackson99
@Joshua_Jackson99 14 днів тому
Labour qsking inflation, corruption, immigration or literally anything Rishi sunak: *I haven't heard condemnation to Kamas in his qsn*
@ossealey8995
@ossealey8995 14 днів тому
Sleaze= lab-tories-greens. Simple as.
@Jessjoe1956
@Jessjoe1956 14 днів тому
@ossealey89… Bless you, does your mum know you’ve been using her computer.
@ossealey8995
@ossealey8995 14 днів тому
@@Jessjoe1956 Bless you, I'm guessing your mum would need a donation to buy one
@goattm2
@goattm2 14 днів тому
The UK needs to break up. It's beyond repair and Labour will do nothing to fix it after they get in.
@TheHOOD-ip7ke
@TheHOOD-ip7ke 12 днів тому
Zero sympathy here
@randybackgammon890
@randybackgammon890 12 днів тому
Tories
@everTriumph
@everTriumph 14 днів тому
They are all 'at it'. They are all more or less corrupt.
@rexfordmorgan7552
@rexfordmorgan7552 14 днів тому
Who is this goofball. First time covering politics?
@fredsharp2456
@fredsharp2456 14 днів тому
It's got to be Mr. Corbin, the P.M. said so every P.M.Q.'s Oh! and all the other questions he never gives answers too.
@woodentie8815
@woodentie8815 14 днів тому
Yeah but, what about Angela Rayner???🤪
@Mikey72182
@Mikey72182 14 днів тому
That is a non story.
@andrewelder8212
@andrewelder8212 14 днів тому
Are you serious or just a bitter Tory?😂
@woodentie8815
@woodentie8815 14 днів тому
@@andrewelder8212 Are you serious or just a bitter lemon? (or just another one who doesn’t get irony?🙄)
@dogmatronic
@dogmatronic 14 днів тому
What about Keith Vaz former chair of the Home Affairs Select Committee?! Amazing how someone like him could chair HASC and defend Greville Janner! So no, this kind of behaviour afflicts all parties. A lot of this is product of oppressive Public Schooling. Watch the brilliant film If….
@user-wq6sz7vt3w
@user-wq6sz7vt3w 14 днів тому
The London Labour echo chamber at LBC is always a laugh!
@SmokeroftheFuture
@SmokeroftheFuture 14 днів тому
Sleaze= Labour. Simple as.
@jasoncooper9391
@jasoncooper9391 14 днів тому
😂😂😂😂
@tecdesigns8183
@tecdesigns8183 14 днів тому
Both parties.
@user-em3vl6li5w
@user-em3vl6li5w 14 днів тому
No do some research. The Tories without question. Just look it up.
@Nickelodeon81
@Nickelodeon81 14 днів тому
Nope
@annealbrecht396
@annealbrecht396 14 днів тому
I think Reform is the only way forward
@TheWaveGoodbye-Music
@TheWaveGoodbye-Music 14 днів тому
The Tory B team😂
@Lynnefromlyn
@Lynnefromlyn 14 днів тому
Reform is the only way backwards - to a time when Fascism was plunging the world into horrendous war. Do you not understand what reform are all about?
@vincentblack7467
@vincentblack7467 14 днів тому
Abbott, Lammy.. Horrible..
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