@ginaparker-langley you aint a judge. He wasnt cheating

wrong

he did not break the rules, therefore he did not cheat. disgusting that they would not pay him his winnings.

Playing exploitative is still cheating even when both parts agree to it. If you got scammed by some company because you didn't know what you agreed to had some exploit, and you lost substantial money, you'd sue, no?@@Abraham-Kaykski-Steinberg

@@ginaparker-langley both parties, Ivey and the Casinos, agreed to the terms. At any time, the casino could have said no. it is not cheating if Ivey has information they do not so long as that information is available to anyone that investigates thoroughly. If the casino had done their due diligence, they could have discovered the edge problem. That is incompetence on the casino's side, not cheating.

Casino's have rules governed by law that have specific odds that definitely favor the house. But that is what a player is expecting to play against. If you exploit a glitch to change those odds, it's cheating. That's not a hero move, that's a scumbag move. Casinos exist. If casinos and gambling didn't exist, Phil Ivey would probably be an assistant manager at Jack in the Box. While you can argue that gambling is bad and that casinos shouldn't exist, at least a regulated industry you can know what you're getting into.

@@justjeff386 the casinos screwed up they altered SOP to accommodate a whale its their own fault and they should have caught the crap he was telling them to do. but to call it cheating nope. if i.m playing bj and i ask the casino to expose boths card before i and they do it i'm not cheating

@@justjeff386 Meh, context matters. To me, cheating other individual players out of their own money vs exploiting an edge against a casino are two different things. I could accept that it is "cheating", but not in the same categories as any of these others in the video. Someone cheating other players at a poker table is a lot scummier than, say, realizing a few numbers are less likely to come up on a roulette wheel and using that to your advantage, or counting cards in blackjack.

@natecrosman7732 that's for you to decide. But it still shows his character which you can't assume wouldn't extend to fleecing other people

@@justjeff386 I feel like I can assume that, unless it's been proven otherwise. I don't assume card counters would just as soon steal from me, for example. It's a completely different thing. But fair enough.

His whole cards? Do you mean: As opposed to his partial cards? Or do you mean his HOLE cards? Which is it?

@@tomemeigh5338 Yawn, fixed, go grammar Nazi someone else, it'll be just as boring there.

i mean homeboy was legit leaning over his shoulder and looking straight down at his cards. hes a scumbag who was trying to cheat. hes lucky he didnt get shook the fuck up in the parking lot

@@mosesmoses8357 That much is definitely true. He's definitely lucky he didn't catch an ass whooping in the parking lot.

Is there a rule that doesn't allow you to look at another player's cards? Because Barry def didn't protect his hand at all. So shame on him for that. That said, should he be worried that people are going to do that in an organized, public event like that?

ya it's a terrible ruling edge sorting is not illegal, however cheating in a casino is illegal. It's not really cheating when what he was doing they are using their brain and what the casino was willing to offer them to gain an advantage.

Yes. More people need to realize that what Ivey did was NOT cheating. He did not mark or alter the cards in any manner, nor did he use any tools to gain an unfair advantage over he casino. All Ivey was guilty of is being smart enough to take advantage of all the information that was legally available to him. The greedy casinos wanted his action so badly that they agreed to every one of Ivey's requests before hand. They weren't forced to do that, they chose to do that. The rulings were complete BS. The ruling basically allows the casino to freeroll someone like Ivey. Being an "Advantage player" does not guarantee you will win every session. Ivey could have easily lost millions during those sessions and the casino would have happily taken his money, even if they knew he was edge sorting the whole time. Then if Ivey wins, they got to call foul and the courts gave them their money back. The biggest crooks and thieves in the gambling world are the casinos themselves. With the millions in revenue that casinos generate for their jurisdictions governments though, courts are almost always going to side with the casino over an individual player. So in that regard, the court hearings are a fraud in the favor of the casinos too.

@@Zak-jt6nk The casino picked the playing cards, and supplied the playing cards. If the equipment they were using was defective, that's their problem, not Ivey's.

@@cyclopsvision6370 yes exactly what i just said if you read it, but ivy actually picked the playing cards and the casino supplied them.

@@ginaparker-langley that is so wild haha that story just made me like him more

But he had been doing this to other players before this and was only caught because of the extra scrutiny and review of the tapes for the Robi-Garrett incident. It wasn’t a blunder, just irrelevant to the storyline he was giving. Despite hundreds, perhaps thousands, of hours of investigation, not a single shred of evidence has ever been produced against Robi. It was clearly an isolated crazy play and absolutely broke the soul of one of the biggest streaming stars in poker.

The employee flipped out when Robi agreed to give her chips back to Garret and then took the 15k off her stack right before she gave chips back. It's certainly very suspicious. Either Robbi is the biggest idiot in poker for going all in on J 4 or she is cheating. The one thing she isn't, is a great poker player.

It is crazy that after all this time, there are still Robi backers out there. They're like covid deniers, despite all evidence to the contrary, they persist. So much so that even some bloggers like Matt Berkley have been intimidated into qualifying there accusations, and waffle about how she "might, maybe,. probably" cheated. Meanwhile she gets a pass and plays in games regularly. It's insane.

He was most likely helping her in exchange for taking a small amount of her winnings. Either that or it's a wild coincidence that she did this the same night he decided to steal from her.

@@usernamesrlamo except everytime she plays now she plays completely different than those few stream games. Not to mention the employee never once took chips off someone else’s stack? Also the investigation was done internally with zero incentives for them to turn up wrong doing - can’t even trust they aren’t in on it

I don't think you understand what "danger" means.

@@cocainecarl4200 "Dangerous" is definitely the right word here.

I think it's dangerous to confuse tf outta me with wrong graphics 0:23 secs in. Guess nobody else cares but F this channel imo.

​@@cocainecarl4200it is dangerous you can get sued

Dangerous to whom?

Most of these tools will narrate a stool passing if they thought it would earn ad revenue...At least he didn't do the "never ending prologue", in the beginning; Repeating everything 15 times in different phrases...

A lot of these channels are run by people who aren't native English speakers, so they use AI to generate English voices. You can tell when they mispronounce common words or people's names.

Also saying AK off suit is the best starting hand in poker...shame...

It's an AI voice over from text

I was wondering that exact same thing...also common poker things are just described in weird ways.

True!

Pretty sure she thought she had J3 and should have just admitted she misread her hand.

Not having a clue isn't cheating. Why cheat only on THAT hand? It's a ridiculous notion that a group of cheaters, which is obviously the accusation, would pick such an obviously suspicious hand to cheat on when they could have picked and stolen so much more from a dozen less obvious spots. That was the WORST possible hand to cheat on in that way. And a cheater would never just hand back the money. I played 1-2 with a visiting friend last night. Calls like hers were happening every third hand. The ONLY reason people think this is different is because of the amount, and they assume no one would play at such high stakes who was fundamentally clueless, but it wasn't her money, just a very rich guy letting her play for free. And look at Garrett. How many millions has he lost over this? He had a nervous breakdown and threw away this opportunity over it? After all the money he was winning? Why wouldn't he keep his mouth shut, go to the organizers, and catch the cheaters in the act? The cheating idea doesn't make sense. I agree, she's not making any sense, but go watch her interviews. That's who she is.

​@@commenter6722stupidity at its finest!😂

@@commenter6722 she was 100 percent cheating, she is just a moron, she knew her cards and was terribly acting so she would be able to say she had a pair, obviously she knew her hand was good, the only thing I do not get is why she did not cheat on a stronger hand, which leads me to conclude she is just really dumb and terrible at poker. She changed her story so often since it did not line up ever with how she was talking, during the hand when she called she said she had a pair, then when asked about it she thought her jack high was good and no longer mentioned she had a pair, too much inconsistency, just a dumb cheater,

casino mad they got beat at their own game lol

@@maxwellboyne2770 that isn’t the same at all. He changed nothing about them. He didn’t mark them, he didn’t hide something on them - nothing. He asked for certain conditions- where by the way the casino had the odds set to take all his money - and the casino said yes. Not at all cheating. It’s called “advantage play”. Which is exactly what the casino does to players.

@@maxwellboyne2770 the casinos greed caused this situation. They cheat people every day, for once someone beat them using their own flawed equipment. That is 100% on the casino.

@BeeHash lol them accepting his requests doesn't make it not cheating, dumb@ss. if he'd made the requests and let the casino know it was because he wanted to read the backs of those specific cards in order to CHEAT, then they wouldn't have allowed it. really really stupid 'logic' by you.

He did 🤡

whether she cheated or not, Garretts behavior is inexcusable. He accused someone of cheating and bullied them into giving him the money back with zero evidence. At first this situation seemed suspicious to me, but once I heard her talking afterwords it was clear she was just an idiot who didn't know what she was doing.

I don't know how she cheated. She called an all in on the turn, she was not favored to win, so if she knew what Garret had, the best move would be to fold. She made a rookie move and it paid off

@@marcoponce2461 Except that it wasn't a rookie move. It's not a move that anyone would make regardless of their skill level unless they had some amount of information about where they were in the hand. Keep in mind too, that Robbie wouldn't need to know what Garrett's exact hand was. All she would need to know is whether she was "good" or not. We already know from her play history that while she may not be considered an elite player, she's also not a rookie. At that point she did have a history of playing in some medium stakes games, and higher priced tournaments. Someone at her level of play would definitely know not to just call off that amount of money with J-high in that position. The odds that she did this just on a "hunch" are incalculably small.

​@@userac-xpgcorrect this people that think she still cheated like Garrett that to me is nothing but a cry baby who still has her money out of all of this she Gamble knew this from the beginning cheaters don't Gamble they cheat to win run twice the river if it's a chop or Garrett wins both he doesn't cry an call her a cheater for her to cheat she has to know the last 2 cards for river cards before they are delt and turned over and that is impossible as they debunked in the investigation so as I see it Garrett owes here back the money with interest and should pay for the investigation that cost over 6 Figures it's mind bogging a player at this level and polks that's his buddy as polk probably still believes cuz he's not to bright how they believe she was cheating even at that beginning it's absolutely sad it really is tc

The guy that stole her chips Also moved his desk in the office so he could see all the cards on the screen Of course the casino found no evidence they would be sued by everyone that ever lost money there

No evidence was ever found. However steps were taken later for security reasons. The production room displays could be seen by almost any employees who look at it. It has since changed to a single guarded display only accessed by director. Players already put their electronics away, but now they have to put personal items in signal blockers as well and go through metal detectors every break. So main suspension seems to be that she had some employee that could see production room sending her signals. Her big outfit and jewelry could definitely conceal device that could help her (chess butt beads theory).

If you have a lot of money, and dont understand a lot of poker, you would call the All In. So the call make sense. She is not a pro, she is a player, staked by her husband. The call was Ok, no cheating. Bad played and lucky, but a tipical play for a fish. Basic rule: Dont bluff a fish, they never fold. As she is bankrolled by her husband, she is a average loosing player, if she were a winning player, no stanking by husband would be necessary. So she is a fish. They never fold. No cheating here.

Yeah that was the funniest part about the whole saga, poker pros would come there to play and got warned about Postle, and they were like "Who?". No one had heard of him, yet he was making these godlike plays and winning all the time. Yeah if he was actually that good, he should've taken his talents on the road and make millions.

So is it a humans voice or an AI bot that is reading text?

@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants it's obviously AI lol

But did she cheat? he didn't explain how she cheated! did she pick at his cards? did she change her cards? how?

@@mrkennyfernand Did I say she cheated? There are countless ways to cheat and seeing that an employee was busted later that night, the possibilities of her cheating are high. But nowhere in my comment, did I say that she was cheating

@@alexh8613 How does an employee stealing chips have any bearing on the hand, in which she called before the river? Her play was horrible and definitely negative EV. But, I do not understand how anyone could think that there was any cheating. Had the river been a club, everyone would rightfully ridicule her for calling all-in with J high.

The most likely way she was cheating was that she was getting some kind of signal from the employee who ended up palming 15k off of her stack. The signal was probably something rudimentary like “good” and “no good” since she was still a dog going into the river despite being ahead of Garret on the turn. It was after she agreed to give Garret his money back from that pot that the employee thief audibly screamed in anguish (after learning that his cut of Robbie’s take had gone down by a lot) and then later stole from her stack.

@@notrab13 But, she called before the river. And, there were more cards than not that would improve Garrett's hand against her exact holdings. Had she called a river bet, there may be something there. But, there was still a card to come. Are you also asserting that said employee knew what would be the river card ?

His buddy didn’t get a choice.

Possibly, and now that I've heard that explanation I'm gonna stop defending him as much. Because that would make a lot of sense. Especially him, pretty much only playing Stone and earning his entire notirity there. Used to think, well he's got a good feel for it. I play similar, knowing when to raise someone's bullshit. Sometimes I'll fold the nuts and muck just because I don't like gambling, I play poker. Thought he was a similar player but this changes perspective immensely.

​@@Tony2GlockI'm with you. I thought to myself, they have no real. Proof but this makes sense. All he had to do was installing a mirroring app on the desktop and have it transmitted to his phone. Not hard at all. Explains why he only played at the Stone.

i agree. at least for more severe cases.

You must really love poker too, thanks for your feedback! 👍

3 players at least. Daniel, Scott, and Garrett. To be fair most people pronounce Garrett's name wrong but it's Adelstein and rhymes with fine.

It’s a lazy clickbait channel

Scott Sajver 😂

@@pokerbear7 is that your way of saying, "I know I messed up but at least I got a comment out of it and that's all that matters"?

Is an easy way to check if a phone is ON or OFF to call it to see if it acts like it is OFF?

Correct. She won with jack high

She ‘called his bluff’ with Jack high, there is no full proof that she cheated but because the play was so bad, and some of the things she said afterwards, it is hard to think she didn’t cheat. To add onto it, 15k of someone’s chips were stolen that night. This proved that security was poor all night so it makes it more possible that Robbie cheated. There is no proof of anything though, maybe she just can’t play the game very well.

@@matthewfoley9522 oh...I was so stupid to not put a timestamp on this 10mins video. could you time point me to the exact moment? I already forgot what it was all about, but I want to understand your explanation since you kindly took the time to reply. 😊

never play on a live stream

Love when people just start rambling off about a specific person in a compilation video and expect everyone else to know wtf they're talking about...

putz

Love Brill. Wish she was on the webs more often.

took a while before she did. She was on the Mike Postle God train for several episodes.

Most players will tell the player by them if they are exposing their cards to them. Years ago, I was looking at my cards in a way that the player to my right could see them. He was nice enough to let me know. I now do the same. While it would be nice to know the cards everyone else had, I would rather not find out by seeing their cards while in the hand.

it depends on if you accidentally see their cards or are deliberately trying to see them. If a player is trying to protect their hand and you are making an effort to see their cards then you are cheating.

@@userac-xpg If someone accidentally sees your cards and follows etiquette they will tell you that they saw them, and remind you to protect them better. If they accidentally see your cards, and *don't* say anything, (and continue looking), then they have become just as bad as the person who was trying to look on purpose.

@@denisfolcik1373 yup

@@userac-xpg no youre just a scumbag if you are actively trying to look at them unless you are handicapped in some way protecting your hole cards is not difficult .

Preciate it !! More coming soon🌟

It's an AI voice. A lot of these channels are run by people in India and places like that.

I was playing a low limit cash game and there was a player there holding his cards up in his face like he was playing 5 card draw at an old saloon in the west. I told him I can see your cards and taught him how to protect his hand. That's the only thing I thought was right to do.

Yeah they kinda left that out. The point was the guy she was playing against was one card away from getting a straight flush, so he kinda has a reason to bluff and hope he gets it at the end, while she has absolutely nothing, just a Jack high. They both have bad hands, but he has a slight chance of getting a straight flush. Yet she calls an insane pot ($269k) with her very weak hand, and she wins because the guy didn't end up getting the straight flush. So it seems likely she knew his cards, so she could win with even her bad hand.

I agree!

Came to say the same thing. That casino met all his terms to get his “action” they didn’t know they were setting themselves up for failure but that isn’t on Phil… Phil set the parameters of the game he was willing to play, they agreed. 100% their fault, now could they have backed Ivey off? Told him he is no longer welcome in their property ABSOLUTELY but you don’t make a mistake, lose your edge, then whine like babies when you lose.. you do the same thing to every single person walking through those Doors, did Phil have an unfair advantage? Of course he did… he set it up that way, and the casino sooo desperate for the action agreed. They deserve what happened to them and it’s terribly sad the courts ruled in favor of the casinos.

You also got the names wrong. It's Daniel NEGREANU, and Scott SEIVER 😜

@@Joe_C. He spelled them phonetically, though admittedly added a "T" to Seiver's name. But he DID get the word "some" wrong.

@@tomemeigh5338 wrong and also without the phonetic alphabet

Glad you enjoyed. Stay tuned for more!

never cheated period. If you saw something on how a slot machines' reels lined up and knew the next spin would be a jackpot, are you a cheater for putting in a dollar in pulling the lever? Or is the casino at fault for having a flawed machine?

@@userac-xpg Exactly!

Marked cards is about as cheating as it gets, no, getting factory marked cards is not the one weird trick to avoid being a cheat,

He wasn't even playing poker lol

The flop was 8 9 J Giving the J Q top pair and inside straight draw. The guy who made the video illustrated 8 9 4 by mistake. 4 was the turn.

Thimg is, casino's really dont care because they get paid regardless of the outcome...The ability to rake in $1000.00 per table hour without risking a single dollar??? "Step right up!!!"

Did you watch at least 3 times after where she played that same hand and won?

DON'T FORGET THAT SHE IMMEDIATELY GAVE HIM HIS MONEY BACK

Robbie's cheat was a carefully calculated setup. She is an "Influncer" who used this one time event to explode her brand and boy did it work. Doug Polk had the best analysis, but the wrong conclusion. She knew this would go viral as poker cheating controversy and raise her brand to water cooler talk. She played the game and played it well. All of it except the poker.

@@DW-op7ly players do that all the time with shitty hands, they pretend it is their favourite hand so they have an excuse to play like a moron