White Doesn't Lose!!

5 місяців тому

Puzzle FEN:
8/2p3p1/4p1P1/1K2P1P1/8/8/kp2Q3/1q6 w - - 0 1
Puzzle Details:
Eugene Cook, 1927
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 80

@togishere 5 місяців тому

Wow this might be my favorite puzzle on this whole channel. Started off with queens, had a stalemate trick, knight underpromotion, queens trade and it becomes a pawns vs knight and pawns endgame, then we're solving for black (I like how it's a puzzle for both sides, if you could do more of those that would be so cool) and finally ends in a tricky position where the knight is just barely in time to stop the pawns with some fun forks. Absolutely amazing puzzle!

@johnkesich8696 5 місяців тому

I am just blown away that someone could come up with such an intricate puzzle. The complexity is incredible. Any idea how long it took to create?

@harsh.verma1717 5 місяців тому

i guess this must have occurred in a game or chess engine may have solved it

@paul_warner 5 місяців тому

This was one of the original 1,024 puzzles included in a minigame on Chess: 10 Year Anniversary Edition for the SNES released in 1996 following the success of the original Chess which was included with the NES for its 1985 debut. Garry Chess said that the base game was developed over the course of a summer but the puzzles took him nine months of tireless work. He credits his losses against Deep Blue the following year to "profound mental exhaustion" he suffered from meticulously developing these puzzles. Detractors say the computer beat him fair and square but honestly, after seeing how crazy this puzzle was, I don't blame him.

@dentonyoung4314 5 місяців тому

Absolutely fantastic. I like how at first it's White fighting for a draw, then at the end Black has to scramble for a draw. Also, on chess Adventures, I'm still waiting to find out what happens to Bobby, Peter and Joe. :)

@Penguin4096-si9fz 5 місяців тому

Thank you for this puzzle! This is one of the best puzzles I have ever seen, and it is filled with brilliant moves and perpetuals, stalemates, and hard-to-find moves!

@timothyfrancis1092 5 місяців тому

i love how unique this puzzle is, it starts white to play and draw then becomes black to play and draw

@benprescott9217 5 місяців тому

Great puzzle as always, Nelson!

@plokenv 5 місяців тому

Nice upload schedule nelson! You inproved your videos so much

@buneter 5 місяців тому

As a 1,000 I would have sacrificed my queen and been confused when it was a stalemate

@bookworm9962 5 місяців тому

Wow. That was an awesome puzzle! Really amazing how much there is going on

@nicobrine 5 місяців тому

0:44 Another idea to draw: keep checking until u get the same position and take some of the check

@johnbernstein7887 5 місяців тому

Another idea, promote to a bishop

@nicobrine 5 місяців тому

@@johnbernstein7887 Stalematt

@wolfi4294 5 місяців тому

My daily morning routine with nelson‘s puzzle videos with a nice coffee is just perfect

@prplt 5 місяців тому

btw what if black just plays c6 at 3:20?

@jovindsouza3407 8 днів тому

after c6, white just plays Qd1+ and it'll be the same perpetual check pattern that was seen in the line where black promotes to a queen. White will simply move from d1 to d4 to a4 depending on how black blocks. If in this line black tries the knight promotion trick again we can just trade queens and capture black's pawns because the black king is still too far away. the result will be a draw.

@hassanalihusseini1717 5 місяців тому

Thank you for this incredible puzzle. In reality it is a puzzle inside a puzzle!

@Aligat0rr 5 місяців тому

From 4:29 on, the knight could go to d2, f3, xe5, xg6

@Aligat0rr 5 місяців тому

There's no point in giving that check

@Aligat0rr 5 місяців тому

Looked at it again, if Nxe5, the King can take the knight.

@massimilianogiuliattini4698 5 місяців тому

Great job Nelson! Very well explained and instructive😃 I like how you give me the chance to jump into the action by asking me what I would do 😃You just made me fall in love with endgames!😮😮😮😍😍😍

@MrMagyar5 3 місяці тому

You missed a move which does not allow white to draw. Before promoting the pawn, Black can play C6! This puts white into zugzwang and leaves him without a move. He must move either the King or Queen. If he does not move the Queen, and Black takes the Queen, the King can still flee up the board, game over. If the Queen moves it frees the Black Queen to begin pushing the King around and eventually Black gets his promotion.

@tiletapper4ever 5 місяців тому

This was an amazing puzzle

@mayonnaiseonahotdog7674 5 місяців тому

This was a beautiful puzzle

@valeckseimu3132 5 місяців тому

Complex but funny variants

@sagerozycki3478 5 місяців тому

I'm a fan of situations where you try and draw.

@TheEthikos 5 місяців тому

Good lord, that was like inception in chess...the layers of this is just bonkers.

@johnathanpatrick6118 5 місяців тому

I have to admit, that's one of the funnier stalemates I've in a while. 🤣🤣 (2:05)

@tontonbeber4555 5 місяців тому

Your problems are really incredible, and you explain them very well ... and I admit I find solution 1/100 of them ... But I really wonder what are your sources are there some good books with catalog of problems ?

@thomasyogayoiii3759 5 місяців тому

Incroyable

@ItsAllAboutGuitar 5 місяців тому

This game might be the best example ever showing how stupid of a rule stalemate is and also how stupid it is to be allowed to repeat the position.

@chloesmith4065 5 місяців тому

Broken game lol

@Bobby-fj8mk 5 місяців тому

3:53 - Black still can't escape checks but yes it's true that White will now lose badly. I checked it on Stockfish.

@BruceLinderPT 5 місяців тому

You can move the Queen to D1 early (against your instructions), to start the check cascade very early.

@Galliao 5 місяців тому

5:47 You want me to flip the board? I was a pro in my Monopoly days. Sometimes I'd flip the whole table.

@Astrobrant2 5 місяців тому

Why do I love feeling so dumb? (Great puzzle!)

@NJDJ1986 5 місяців тому

Ok but what bout if black pawn promotes to rook or bishop? How would the game end be like?

@Dman222000 4 місяці тому

At 2:50, what about Queen to c1 instead of b1?

@michasokoowski6651 5 місяців тому

3:05 You should mention why queen on c1 doesn't work for black

@KoNekoNinja- 5 місяців тому

What would happen if at 10:00 white decided to go pawn to g6 ?

@KSFURI 5 місяців тому

I am stuck at 1100 so bad can someone please guide me I sometimes lose to obvious checkmates and sometimes I play like magnus and after a while I come to where I was a few games before

@speedy_brennan 5 місяців тому

After Knight f3 white should move g6. Is this not a winning position for white? The e5 pawn is still defended so if the knight takes it white can capture and then go after the black pawn and get a queen easy. Black can not put white in check with the knight if they don't take the pawn and then white would move to e6.

@wisdom7564 5 місяців тому

What a puzzle so many queens 😂 naturally a noob like me would lose

@farouqbaiti4315 5 місяців тому

I can't believe Nelson when he said:Flip the Board for a second,it's Black to play and save the game instead of white to play and save the game. That was a long puzzle like you mentioned. It was hard but thankfully I solved it.

@reubenmanzo2054 5 місяців тому

What if black plays either Qc1 or Qa3?

@jasonsmith1950 5 місяців тому

In the position where black has two queens? I believe white would then be able to take the queen (with check), and black's only response would be to block with the other queen. At that point, white can draw by moving its queen between c1 and a3 (perpetual check with black unable to do anything but block) or white can trade queens (which I believe would lead to white winning as the white king is closer to the pawns and can take the black pawns and provide a safe path for a white pawn to promote)

@BrawlStarsPearl 5 місяців тому

6:23 This Principle that "Don't put your Knight in the edge of the board" has been broken😢

@zachariastsampasidis8880 5 місяців тому

Only holds for the opening /Early midgame because the centre is typically where the action is.

@BrawlStarsPearl 5 місяців тому

@@zachariastsampasidis8880 Center is always better (still endgame) than the edge

@kustomkode 5 місяців тому

I have never ever once seen a very highly rated player not put his Knight on the edge of the board. It just depends on the position.

@BrawlStarsPearl 5 місяців тому

@@kustomkode Very Rarely (not this) when position counts of this rule.

@yacerhamidi9982 4 місяці тому

10:00 what about king d7 isn't that a win ?

@arafamin8126 5 місяців тому

yes nelson we know white never losses...

@VanillaLimeCoke 5 місяців тому

Lol

@thomasyogayoiii3759 5 місяців тому

Exact@@09f9

@hassanalihusseini1717 5 місяців тому

Especially when played at Cafe Chestnut Tree....

@sieger358 5 місяців тому

Yeahk,whitte nevver loses)

@extra... 5 місяців тому

They lost one

@JustAnotherCommenter 5 місяців тому

We need a Black to play and Lose type of puzzle that synergizes with White to play and Win

@jerrytom4083 5 місяців тому

It turned out to be saving game as black xd

@TCG-Collector77 5 місяців тому

What if black promotes to a bishop or rook?

@mythbusters866 5 місяців тому

Rook or Bishop not stop white Qa4+ - Qd4+ - Qd1+

@Eye-vp5de 5 місяців тому

Why can't white start with kb4 (the first move of the puzzle)

@mythbusters866 5 місяців тому

Kb4?? Ka1! black win now

@mythbusters866 5 місяців тому

lichess computers say black mate white 45 moves...

@keonliller_2287 5 місяців тому

it's better for black to promote to a queen because when they promoted to a knight they almost lost

@thatonefrenchguy937 5 місяців тому

Treat the slaves who made the problems well.

@adityaprakash1029 4 місяці тому

Dude I found the solution in 1min and I'm 900 elo

@danielnelson9411 5 місяців тому

Easy draw.

@BL-vs4cd 5 місяців тому

This is actually so damn awesome! It starts out with white trying to keep the game alive and by the end the tables have completely turned on black, very interesting puzzle!