Why all solar panels are secretly LEDs (and all LEDs are secretly solar panels)

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Steve Mould

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Part 2 - explainer video is here: • How diodes, LEDs and s...
LEDs and solar panels are both made of diodes. A diode is just designed to allow electricity to flow in one direction but because we make them out of semiconductors they can do all these other things.
Video produced in cooperation with Merck ( / merckgroup . Merck is known as Merck KGaA, Darmstadt, Germany in the United States.
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@moth.monster
@moth.monster 5 років тому
Resistors can also emit light but only once
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 5 років тому
They also emit smoke for quite a long time before starting to become light emitters.
@clementdel2776
@clementdel2776 5 років тому
@@SeanBZA pretty unique design!
@rivencraft1734
@rivencraft1734 5 років тому
@@SeanBZA All computers run on smoke, thats why when the smoke comes out they stop working.
@PenPeng
@PenPeng 5 років тому
@@SeanBZA Every machine is a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough
@hebl47
@hebl47 5 років тому
Resistors actually emit light all the time, the problem is we can't see it because it's around 6000nm in wavelenght. But you're right - visible light is usually a one time event.
@error1022
@error1022 4 роки тому
1. electric motor generator 2. mic speaker piezo 3. solar panel diode led
@keelo-byte
@keelo-byte 4 роки тому
galvanic cell Electrolytic cell Beer Hangover Hair of the dog...
@jimmyjohn8008
@jimmyjohn8008 4 роки тому
Now I'll waiting for the next generation of phones to have a solar panel screen charging button
@rwatson2609
@rwatson2609 4 роки тому
roomy's toothbrush toilet cleaner cattle corn car fuel condoms rifle protectors crazy glue wound sealer microwave oven hair drier Lol, maybe not the last one but I liked this video.
@FrankHarwald
@FrankHarwald 4 роки тому
ceramic microphone ceramic capacitor buzzing ceramic caps
@patrikgubeljak9416
@patrikgubeljak9416 4 роки тому
Diodes are not necessarily LEDs. Depends on the band structure, e.g. silicon makes solar cels and diodes but will never electrically emit light.
@ZeldagigafanMatthew
@ZeldagigafanMatthew 4 роки тому
So, should we call solar panels Light Absorbing Diodes (or LADs) instead? I think so.
@AbdullahBilik
@AbdullahBilik 4 роки тому
or LSD : Light swallowing diodes. Sounds better to me.
@DASyam-tb7qt
@DASyam-tb7qt 4 роки тому
Smart LAD
@sandylengerich2304
@sandylengerich2304 4 роки тому
Funny Tad
@dyingofcringe8839
@dyingofcringe8839 3 роки тому
lad lol
@billkillernic
@billkillernic 3 роки тому
Nope because a) all diodes are light absorbing (so there is no reason to distinguish that property of them by a different name for the particular ones used in a solar panel) b) the diodes are only a component of the *panel* hence we name the entire *panel* according to what it does so a *solar* **panel**
@jpopelish
@jpopelish 4 роки тому
I had a long career as a circuit designer, and several times, with high gain circuits, with diodes, I had to take the light sensitivity of the diodes into account.
@mrwess1927
@mrwess1927 3 роки тому
Neat!
@mrwess1927
@mrwess1927 3 роки тому
Care to share what you know?
@jpopelish
@jpopelish 3 роки тому
@@mrwess1927 Any opamp circuits with high gain can be affected by diodes connected to the inputs. I think an audio preamp with a pair of clamp diodes (glass encased 1N4148) across the inputs, for static protection picked up a hum from room lighting. and a high gain DC amplifier (for a seismograph) connected up as an absolute value circuit, had offset problems, if operated in the light. In both cases, either switching to a black epoxy cased diode, or using a black plastic transistor as the diode, cured the interference.
@Cooliemasteroz
@Cooliemasteroz 2 роки тому
That’s interesting, a lot can be learned from experience.
@gorilladisco9108
@gorilladisco9108 2 роки тому
Aren't they usually encased in non-transparent mold?
@positronundervolt4799
@positronundervolt4799 5 років тому
'You can use a speaker as a microphone.' Hello, CIA.
@heroslippy6666
@heroslippy6666 5 років тому
Hello CIA my old friend...
@Yorgarazgreece
@Yorgarazgreece 5 років тому
*NSA joined the chat*
@TheFoodnipple
@TheFoodnipple 5 років тому
LEDs can also act like a pixel from a camera 😉
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 5 років тому
If you take a microphone apart, and a pair of head phones, you will find the diaphragms look very similar.
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 5 років тому
Vincent Robinette depends on the mic. Dynamic microphones are closest to speakers
@JohnnyX50
@JohnnyX50 5 років тому
I first had that eureka moment when I was sat playing with an LED and was reminded of the 'equal and opposite reaction' law. I thought if LEDs emitted light when a voltage was passed through them, would they create a voltage if light was shone at them. To my amazement this was true as I also connected a volt meter across an LED and shone a bright light at it. It was a few years ago when I did this, and now I have discovered this video and it has made me smile! Thank you! True scientific discovery and learning :)
@Kokurorokuko
@Kokurorokuko 3 роки тому
That feeling must be amazing
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 3 роки тому
So if I push my car the tank will fill with gasoline?
@zneebaby
@zneebaby 3 роки тому
@@stargazer7644 🤣🤣🤣 I wish 😛😂😂
@Fine_i_set_the_handle
@Fine_i_set_the_handle 3 роки тому
yea now hook a load up to an oven burner and see if it powers your device by pulling heat out of the air
@markthornemarmaduke
@markthornemarmaduke 3 роки тому
@@stargazer7644 and if someone pushes you..
@kristopherlee81
@kristopherlee81 4 роки тому
I have forgotten so much of my electronic knowledge from the late 80's ...seeing this video makes me want to learn everything again.. Ty
@desertodavid
@desertodavid 3 роки тому
I also learned Electronics in the late 70s and 80s. I'm not sure what type of diode they use in solar panels. But I always thought they were made up primarily from what we knew as LCDs light-collecting diodes versus LEDs light emitting diodes.
@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff
@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff 2 роки тому
I spent over 35 years of my life in electronics; how did I not know this until now? Thanks for another eye-opening, insightful video!
@DakCuh
@DakCuh 2 роки тому
The energy companies would lose money probably
@berekexer8158
@berekexer8158 Рік тому
Maybe you worked in the warehouse?
@tekamanurag6065
@tekamanurag6065 Рік тому
@@DakCuh No this way is not efficient i think, all diodes contains this property but I think there is a reason we don't really use them like this.
@sethsims7414
@sethsims7414 5 років тому
I saw a video by a professor who researches solar cells. He talked about how LEDs get some amount of their energy from the heat of the crystal lattice. He said if you could get the efficiency of the LED high enough (80ish percent of electrical power into light) they would actually act as refrigerators rejecting heat as entropy in the light emitted. He talked about putting such a super LED across the vacuum of a Dewar flask from a high efficiency PV cell to make a heat pump from the inner wall to the outer wall. All this is pretty well known by people who study PV cells and LEDs, but I had no idea and find it super interesting.
@MushVPeets
@MushVPeets 5 років тому
I imagine a massive bank of these super LED's would make for a nice cooling system for a spaceship.
@BrokenLifeCycle
@BrokenLifeCycle 5 років тому
Wait. Are you saying that LEDs at a high enough efficiency can actively absorb heat in molecules and emit it away as visible light? So is it theoretically possible to pump heat away out of a spacecraft in vacuum just by shining a spotlight with this super LED in a direction?
@sethsims7414
@sethsims7414 5 років тому
@@BrokenLifeCycle yep. It has been demonstrated in laboratory settings but isn't practical at the moment. It's infrared light not visible light though. www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds
@healthytamilnadu8816
@healthytamilnadu8816 5 років тому
Man, thanks for sharing thats so cool to know...
@sethsims7414
@sethsims7414 5 років тому
@@sunmoon1234 Peltier modules are certainly semiconductors that act as heat pumps. But they don't turn the heat into light, they work on a different principle.
@Syncromatic
@Syncromatic 5 років тому
“Diodes are really simple electrical components “... my electronics textbook thoroughly disagrees...
@goncaloaguiar
@goncaloaguiar 5 років тому
The Shockley equation is quite simple ;)
@KuraIthys
@KuraIthys 5 років тому
I've seen someone that was determined enough to make their own semiconductors, and I have to agree. What a crazy process. And she was just about capable of making transistors... Maybe at a stretch an integrated circuit consisting of about 3 components. When you see it as small-scale improvised production it still looks nuts, but not quite as crazy as the real methods. And of course this improvised stuff was using commercially available wafers, which are really difficult to produce in their own right...
@Improbabilities
@Improbabilities 5 років тому
My textbook on the physics of electrical components also thoroughly disagrees.
@poptartmcjelly7054
@poptartmcjelly7054 5 років тому
@@KuraIthys It's Jeri and we all know her. She wasn't "close" to making transistors, she actually *made* transistors.
@PhiTonics
@PhiTonics 5 років тому
They are super simple, just like every other element in modern electronics, its confusing due to the scale(small) and materials used (compounds) but in actuality every peace is just an arrangement of positive, negative, and dielectric materials, even rocks have these various properties, everything dose to some degree, when arranged properly you get what we call electricity. Look into how all these components are made: transistor, diode, compactor, battery, you will see it's just various arrangements of P,N, and dielectric.
@lucasbhogal3790
@lucasbhogal3790 3 роки тому
we just learned that in school, but with this video I understand it
@Hallowed_Ground
@Hallowed_Ground 3 роки тому
@@jatre5938 You're stupid.
@fantaisiechopin8240
@fantaisiechopin8240 3 роки тому
@@Hallowed_Ground Dud just gave the man an advice..tf is ur problem?
@nalyddoow9295
@nalyddoow9295 3 роки тому
@@fantaisiechopin8240 You're stupid.
@Derpuwolf
@Derpuwolf 3 роки тому
nalyd doow you got him there
@Derpuwolf
@Derpuwolf 3 роки тому
Mantresh perhaps they’re not a native speaker, but hopefully it improves!
@Tocsin-Bang
@Tocsin-Bang 4 роки тому
The first observation of the led dates to 1907 when Henry Joseph Round noticed for the first time that when a potential of 10 volts was applied to a carborundum crystal, it emitted yellowish light.
@QuantumFluxable
@QuantumFluxable 5 років тому
hey Steve, I'm studying electronics and I gotta say, pretty well made video! if you want to look at other "reversable" electromechanics stuff here's a few examples: Peltier-/Seebeck-Effect (voltage creates temperature differential, but temperature differential also creates voltage), Piezo-Effect (voltage -> crystal lattice deforms, crystal lattice deforms -> voltage), or coupled inductors (current in one coil -> voltage in the other, but also it affects itself. pretty weird.)
@karlkastor
@karlkastor 5 років тому
Also some motors and dynamos. I was very happy when I found out you can wire two Lego Mindstorms motors together and control one directly by turning the other.
@IceMetalPunk
@IceMetalPunk 5 років тому
I mean, he touched on the reversibility of the piezoelectric effect when he demonstrated that microphones and speakers are interchangeable :)
@QuantumFluxable
@QuantumFluxable 5 років тому
@@IceMetalPunk oh yea that's true, i kinda forgot about that video until he mentioned it and even then the memory is foggy...
@GRBtutorials
@GRBtutorials 5 років тому
IceMetalPunk Actually, that’s not really the piezoelectric effect at play, it’s EM induction on the speaker and something more complicated (that has to do with capacitance) on the microphone.
@mr.lasonyer1280
@mr.lasonyer1280 5 років тому
There is no single correct answer to this. There are many different techniques to build a microphone. You can use a magnet attached to a membrane. This membrane is vibrating when you speak on it and the magnet induces a current in a coil. Other microphones use a capacitor with one electrode being a charged isolator (electret). The electret electrode is attached to a membrane similarly as in the previous example. The sound waves make the membrane move again which causes the distance between the electrodes to change. This movement causes a change in capacitance and eventually a change in voltage across the capacitor. Microphones which use the piezoelectric effect exist, but they have a rather bad sound quality. But they are mechanically sturdy which makes (or made) them useful for some applications.
@leonmanetana7987
@leonmanetana7987 5 років тому
This reminds me that the earlier Raspberry2 B models had a single diode that caused the computer to reset when a sufficiently powerful light hit the board. For example, a photo flash... this is why those earlier models were called "camera shy". Fun stuff.
@vitordanieleal
@vitordanieleal 5 років тому
Wow thats true
@melgibson6331
@melgibson6331 5 років тому
Daniel Leal it happend with risc proccessors.
@opensourcememes116
@opensourcememes116 4 роки тому
Sometimes the led right in rpi begins to glow with our any external power supply
@photonicpizza1466
@photonicpizza1466 4 роки тому
It wasn't a diode, it was the power IC (component no. U16), which was a WL-CSP chip. Basically an integrated circuit without any packaging, attached directly to the board. Still caused by the photoelectric effect, so the principle is the same, but it wasn't a diode.
@NazD10
@NazD10 4 роки тому
Realistically this applies to any component, but as far as i know risc is extremely low power, so essentially it's much easier to overvolt.
@tomasdahuabe
@tomasdahuabe 3 роки тому
This video gave me the idea to test old film camera shutter speeds for servicing them. I made a really simple device which is just an LED soldered to an input jack connected to an audio interface to my PC and then on the other side of the camera shutter I put a laser pointer pointing to where the LED would be on through the shutter, shoot the camera while recording the "audio" signal and then see the audio clip to check the interval. And it works perfectly :)
@polymetric2614
@polymetric2614 7 місяців тому
holy shit. that is absolutely fucking mad genius
@lucasheffield7838
@lucasheffield7838 5 місяців тому
this comment is extremely underrated
@trippytrev1421
@trippytrev1421 2 роки тому
I love how you get right to the point and explain it in a way everyone can understand
@time-lapserpro4370
@time-lapserpro4370 5 років тому
Solar panels should be used as outdoor lights. OLED screens should trickle charge your phone. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
@nopparuj
@nopparuj 5 років тому
I’m sorry but solar panels emits Infrared which is invisible to human’s eyes, also power generated from OLED is not enough to charge your phone as it is so low it turns into useless heat when charging.
@nopparuj
@nopparuj 5 років тому
Also thank you for hosting a TEDTalk.
@Jay-kc2pm
@Jay-kc2pm 5 років тому
r/wooosh
@time-lapserpro4370
@time-lapserpro4370 5 років тому
Cole Ikr
@EzeePosseTV
@EzeePosseTV 5 років тому
@Nopparuj r/wooosh
@TommoCarroll
@TommoCarroll 5 років тому
As always Steve...this was _illuminating_ ! 💡 But for real you’re by far one of the best Science communicators on this platform chap! 🙌
@kuro13wolf
@kuro13wolf 5 років тому
That's interesting considering you commented this 3 minutes after this 5 minute video was uploaded. And every other science video I've watched today. Hmmm...
@TommoCarroll
@TommoCarroll 5 років тому
Rhyme Bito Aha I type comments whilst watching the video bud :) Nice to see you’ve got a similar taste in Science UKpostsrs though!
@protoborg
@protoborg 5 років тому
This guys simply does not understand the physics involved here.
@NetRolller3D
@NetRolller3D 5 років тому
_Illuminati confirmed_
@safir2241
@safir2241 5 років тому
Aspect Science You’re great as well!
@ChrisThomasBone
@ChrisThomasBone 2 роки тому
In case anyone's wondering, the term that encompasses both microphones and speakers is "transducer", or a device which converts between acoustic information and an electrical signal
@minkyone
@minkyone 5 років тому
where did you find that concentrated solar cell? Thanks for the awsome video
@Wecoc1
@Wecoc1 5 років тому
In my next concert I will sing on a speaker powered by a LED
@kokorobertco
@kokorobertco 5 років тому
That would be LED Soundsystem
@ze_rubenator
@ze_rubenator 5 років тому
Don't forget your solar power microphone!
@wave1090
@wave1090 5 років тому
Make sure to use a generator as a fan for wind effects
@arsenymakarov6961
@arsenymakarov6961 5 років тому
that would be a massive waste of energy! )
@GRBtutorials
@GRBtutorials 5 років тому
Well, technically the speaker used as a microphone also produces a voltage across it. What you mean is an amplifier connected to a speaker all powered by an LED.
@kikivoorburg
@kikivoorburg 5 років тому
First CGP Grey uploads and now this video? Today keeps getting better!
@matacusa
@matacusa 5 років тому
Within 30 minutes of each other. What a time to be alive.
@awitcheskid
@awitcheskid 5 років тому
Now if only vsauce would upload I'd be in heaven.
@Azivegu
@Azivegu 5 років тому
dont forget Tom Scott
@aaroncameron1494
@aaroncameron1494 5 років тому
Quick! Someone calculate the odds.
@althaz
@althaz 5 років тому
Hah, I came here straight from CGPGrey's vid :).
@atinyknobofbutter9015
@atinyknobofbutter9015 4 роки тому
Coming up next :how your fridge can work as a tv and your tv as a fridge
@pbody6678
@pbody6678 4 роки тому
Hahahahaha!
@seraf8297
@seraf8297 4 роки тому
After that: How your toaster can be used as the pc that runs all my teammates computers
@arthurlouisamv6176
@arthurlouisamv6176 4 роки тому
Well you can use a fridge to be a heater and a heater to be a fridge
@alexb__4133
@alexb__4133 3 роки тому
I mean with a Samsung smart fridge you can do at least the first one
@workhardism
@workhardism 3 роки тому
I can drive my car forwards and in revverse.
@BertGrink
@BertGrink 5 років тому
Steve Mould: "I like to have my old projects at hand" Me: "I'm a pack-rat too"
@TheDIYScienceGuy
@TheDIYScienceGuy 5 років тому
This is one of those channels which always makes me so happy when there is a new upload! Put myself in knowledge absorption mode! 🤯
@Anton-cv2ti
@Anton-cv2ti 5 років тому
It's also the same for electric motors and generators. Heh, it's a fun world we live in.
@jolomies
@jolomies 5 років тому
also peltier elements, put a power in one, and one side gets cold and other hot, create a temperature difference and you get power out of it.
@allanrichardson1468
@allanrichardson1468 5 років тому
And piezoelectric crystals!
@rivencraft1734
@rivencraft1734 5 років тому
All I heard was, you reverse the polarity to solve all your problems.
@TheAngelsHaveThePhoneBox
@TheAngelsHaveThePhoneBox 5 років тому
And unlike diodes or speakers/microphones, electric motors are actually quite often used as generators as part of their normal operation. Eg. regenerative braking in electric vehicles (cars, trains) or pumped-storage hydroelectric power plant. They can be designed in such a way they're effective at both.
@GRBtutorials
@GRBtutorials 5 років тому
NoLlama Yeah, in fact most motors are also good generators, and vice versa.
@goose9514
@goose9514 4 роки тому
"LEDs are solar panels" By that logic, I can make a solar panel by only using christmas lights
@marcelosantos5683
@marcelosantos5683 4 роки тому
Actually, if you search you can find projects of homemade solar panels using only LEDs
@RabbitholeIsrael
@RabbitholeIsrael 4 роки тому
YES, AFTER CHRISTMAS YOU PUT YOUR TREE OUTSIDE in the sun to provide electricity until the next christmas
@AshutoshShelkeP
@AshutoshShelkeP 3 роки тому
@@RabbitholeIsrael dayum!
@santiagocortez9554
@santiagocortez9554 3 роки тому
But a very inefficient one
@DarkDucky79
@DarkDucky79 3 роки тому
What about old LED TVs? Maybe a way to recycle them instead of sending them to the trash pile. Saving the planet one TV at a time.
@wilbur9416
@wilbur9416 2 роки тому
That was really cool and informative thank you for taking apart your camera so that we can see that
@kawsakiTV
@kawsakiTV 5 років тому
Great video! I remember using my cheap on-ear headphones as a microphone when I was a young teen in the late 90s! I always found that whole idea cool :)
@robertwilliams3457
@robertwilliams3457 5 років тому
So my LED tv is not only a microphone but a 70” camera? Hello big brother!!
@superjeffstanton
@superjeffstanton 5 років тому
Woke
@blackturbine
@blackturbine 5 років тому
Life=lie
@erichmarkmann6332
@erichmarkmann6332 4 роки тому
@@superjeffstanton c
@phasm42
@phasm42 4 роки тому
LED TVs are just your usual LCD with LED backlighting instead of the usual CCFL bulbs.
@texasinfobroker
@texasinfobroker 4 роки тому
LG=Looking Glass?
@denismehmedoff7306
@denismehmedoff7306 2 роки тому
Great content! Keep the good work mate!
@kronigen
@kronigen 5 років тому
damn this guy really answered all of my questions! so thankful that you're here on UKposts! just subscribed
@MedlifeCrisis
@MedlifeCrisis 5 років тому
So why don't they just plug in solar panels so they light up and power themselves? I can't believe I'm the only person to think of this. Engineers with their fancy degrees pfft
@SteveMould
@SteveMould 5 років тому
Bloody medics.
@drewadkins4099
@drewadkins4099 5 років тому
STOOPID IT DONT WORK THAT WAY
@mr2octavio
@mr2octavio 5 років тому
@@drewadkins4099 hey man good luck in the Wooshlands
@wierdalien1
@wierdalien1 5 років тому
@@SteveMould Hey! The medics our thing (biomeds/nurses) to lay into
@davidwilliston1209
@davidwilliston1209 5 років тому
Entropy
@CalculatinGenius
@CalculatinGenius 4 роки тому
that is so cool. i never thought about how you can literally reverse the roles of solar panels and leds
@Seriouskai
@Seriouskai 5 років тому
This is a very interesting topic, I liked this. Thanks man!
@KJfourIPS
@KJfourIPS 4 роки тому
I vaguely remember seeing a write up of a display that exploited this principal. It was interlaced, and the currently dark diodes we're used to measure reflected light from the line that was currently active.
@SchioAlves
@SchioAlves 4 роки тому
Does that mean that a led panel with lots of led under the sun (like those on road signs) are constantly sending a reasonable amount of power when off?
@intixshintei5429
@intixshintei5429 4 роки тому
yeah, but not enough to induce a change/imbalance in the circuit
@parthgulati4675
@parthgulati4675 4 роки тому
But you have a good point :)
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 3 роки тому
The problem with your statement is the word “reasonable”. LEDs are optimized to emit light, and that makes them poor solar cells. Solar cells are optimized to generate electricity, and that makes them poor LEDs.
@dnzssrl
@dnzssrl 5 років тому
2:59 here you go, your daily dose of nightmare fuel. You're welcome.
@antoniomaglione4101
@antoniomaglione4101 3 роки тому
The reversibility of PN junction is a classical well known into engineering labs. I remember as a young experimenting with the germanium OC71 transistors, some manufacturers used a glass case painted with black varnish. By removing some varnish from the top of the transistor with a razor blade, the OC71 behaved just like a phototransistor. I built an electronic rooster, a control system for model railways, an RPM counter and a motorised gate control, all with scraped transistors. Thank you for the inspiring video; the electronic as an hobby has disappeared almost completely (especially the analog parts, which are erroneously considered obsolete), so a video like your is able to recall the spirit and the curiosity of experimental electronics, which appears nowhere along the Internet. Regards, Anthony
@vikrantKumar-gh9xn
@vikrantKumar-gh9xn 4 роки тому
Thanks for sharing this amazing information . I was totally unaware To this before.
@zorgatron8998
@zorgatron8998 3 роки тому
Light Emitting Solar Panels! Amazing. Seriously, I always wondered how you know if the solar panels on cheap garden solar LED lights are good or not, without testing and benchmarks and stuff. This is a super easy way to test them. This could probably even be done "in the field" which is while you're at the shop, so you pick out only the good ones.
@GRBtutorials
@GRBtutorials 5 років тому
Well, you still call it infrared “light”, so yes, IREDs (including those designed for that, like those in a remote controller and solar panels) are also LEDs.
@0MVR_0
@0MVR_0 5 років тому
Indeed, most light is outside our visual spectrum.
@GRBtutorials
@GRBtutorials 5 років тому
Omar Omokhodion Yep, though we can still see some NIR from remotes and perceive FIR with our skin as “heat”.
@inteuniso
@inteuniso 4 роки тому
@@0MVR_0 light, electromagnetic radiation, same difference.
@ft7397
@ft7397 2 роки тому
Always good content on this channel. Thumbs up
@markman1276
@markman1276 2 роки тому
Very informative and interesting.thank you. Please keep it going ☺️
@melodyqueen6432
@melodyqueen6432 5 років тому
Cellphone makers listen up - I wanna charge my phone by leaving it in the sun. Make it happen
@einHOCHaufWISEGUYS
@einHOCHaufWISEGUYS 5 років тому
except the display heats up pretty signifigcantly by absorbing all the light heat degrades overall lifetime of any electronics, but especially for the battery :/ I had my phone shutting off due to overheating (on a relatively hot day, mind you) after I left it in the sun for a while
@marcusfred4480
@marcusfred4480 5 років тому
You can get USB power banks that have solar panels to charge them.
@Unerty
@Unerty 5 років тому
@@marcusfred4480, that solar panels on powerbanks aren't made for charging them, but only for keeping energy
@marcusfred4480
@marcusfred4480 5 років тому
@@Unerty What??? Lol! I can assure you that the solar panels absolutely put charge in the batteries.
@Charlesincharge42
@Charlesincharge42 5 років тому
But then they will want $3500 for a phone.
@axelelmfeldt4540
@axelelmfeldt4540 3 роки тому
Imagine having your phone screen act as a solar panel to charge your phone
@jamesdeegan7365
@jamesdeegan7365 3 роки тому
well apple did upgrade there firmware so you can charge your phone in the microwave
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 3 роки тому
You could do that, but you’d need infrared vision to read the screen.
@bruhmoment1835
@bruhmoment1835 3 роки тому
@@jamesdeegan7365 It's faster than using their chargers too!
@naraydaniels7832
@naraydaniels7832 3 роки тому
@@jamesdeegan7365 screw you guys because of you not just did my Phone not charge but i wrecked it and my microwave and my phone now i have to buy a new one Screw you Nah im just kidding
@archie2934
@archie2934 3 роки тому
@@fayenotfaye you ever heard of a window lol
@tielessin
@tielessin Рік тому
Thanks for shining light on such an interesting topic
@robertli2988
@robertli2988 3 роки тому
Hi Steve, Tks for the interesting findings sharing. Now I understand why the HS code of solar panels/modules is leveling LED. Excellent.
@okboing
@okboing 2 роки тому
One thing I noticed about solar cells is that covering them from one side, even just a little bit, caused the voltage to drop dramatically, but covering from either adjacent side, even a lot, doesn't lead to as much voltage drop.
@zoned7609
@zoned7609 2 роки тому
I do this every day at work - load up a module into the (pitch black) EL chamber and run a current through it, and use a camera with special aperture and exposure/ISO settings to capture the pattern and check for any cracks. They become very obvious under these conditions. Oddly enough, some of the extremely cracked modules sometime still produce an OK amount of power. Depends on how the damage happens. If you have solar panels, clean any leaves that fall on them. If they shade the exact percentage of a cell needed to cause a 'kink' in the electrical flow, heat builds up and it can literally catch fire. We do a test called the "hot spot" test that puts various sizes of square tape over a section to find the magical % of a cell that causes the "kink" so the manufacturer can put it in their specs/manual.
@josefhula9811
@josefhula9811 2 роки тому
Hey there, my father (village mayor) has issues with a company providing public illumination powered by solar panels. We would like to apply this method to check if are some panels faulty. Could you give more practical insight? How much current and what voltage is needed and is a laptop camera or front facing Iphone camera (lacking UV filter) sufficient? We tested both cameras on a TV remote and they worked just fine. Thanks
@josefhula9811
@josefhula9811 2 роки тому
They use Victron Energy SPM150-12/3a 150W-12V Mono. Optimum operating voltage of 17.86 and opt. operating current of 8.399 A
@zoned7609
@zoned7609 2 роки тому
@@josefhula9811 While I am a somewhat knowledgable tech when it comes to solar panels, my expertise ends at testing and identifying problems. I can tell you a good resource: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/cJimiamfcJummYk.html At around 7:20 ish he starts explaining what is needed to capture an Electroluminescence (EL) image. This video shows how to use a multimeter to measure volts and amps, which you can compare with the info sheet on the back of the solar panel. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/nZhnnLCEmWxqyI0.html I haven't had the opportunity to vet everything from these videos, but they seem like a good starting point. Sorry I can't be of more help.
@barbezph
@barbezph 3 роки тому
I love your speaking, you’re so chill🤞🏽
@RenatoCadecaro
@RenatoCadecaro 4 роки тому
Hey Steve, thanks for sharing!
@josephdestaubin7426
@josephdestaubin7426 5 років тому
"I know there is no one there" LMAO. You're my new favorite human being, at least on UKposts. :)
@PyarMatKaro
@PyarMatKaro 5 років тому
Can you explain the bandgap, and why efficient blue LEDs require other elements in addition to gallium nitride? (But I can't promise a Nobel prize)
@FatboySim
@FatboySim 4 роки тому
BitDancer easy. Circle.
@eriktempelman2097
@eriktempelman2097 3 роки тому
Brilliant! You, sir, are an amazing teacher.
@jerrysimeone
@jerrysimeone 4 роки тому
Thanks for sharing this insight. Been in electrical electronics for several decades and never heard this concept. Of course never had an ir camera to test it out either but thanks I learned something today. I remember in the 70s that they were called selenium solar cells but not sure if that was an led then. Anyway thanks for your lesson.
@williamschmidt-hansen6311
@williamschmidt-hansen6311 5 років тому
What was that solar cell at 4:00? I would like to find more information about it.
@intptr
@intptr 4 роки тому
google hcpv
@puffinjuice
@puffinjuice 5 років тому
I feel like I've lost all curiosity at work. how do I fix this? Is it because my work and hobbies overlap too much? I used to do so much experimentation at home. now I can't bear to look at technical things in my spare time. I know I haven't lost my interest because I get excited whenever I see videos like this.
@krap101
@krap101 5 років тому
I go through the same thing. If I'm too concentrated on work or am deeply engaged in something, I don't feel like working more at home. When I am bored at work, I can't wait to come home to my projects
@zachburke8906
@zachburke8906 5 років тому
puffin juice it sounds like burnout to me! It happens to everyone, your best bet would be to separate your job from your hobby as much as possible. That’s not to say they cannot be the same type of work, it’s just having them be different helps keep things interesting. If you are working on one type of electronics at work do something else at home.
@manasaveenapadma2236
@manasaveenapadma2236 4 роки тому
Beautiful way of explaining 🤩
@tonyrking
@tonyrking 4 роки тому
What could have been a good addition to the microphone/speaker analogy would be the TV Remote control diode and the receiver unit diode. Both units have a diode, one sends the pulses of IR light- one receives those pulses of IR light.
@adamlyduch9365
@adamlyduch9365 5 років тому
the same goes for electric motors and alternators, every motor can be used as an alternator and other way round
@rogerbarton497
@rogerbarton497 3 роки тому
No it can't, a motor with a commutator acts as a dynamo ie it has a DC output. If you put a DC voltage across and alternator* it will just twitch and not rotate. Some types of washing machine pump motor will act as an alternator. * I mean a basic alternator, not an alternator with a rectifier &/or regulator built in.
@mananvarma5944
@mananvarma5944 5 років тому
So basically, solar panels , when connected to a voltage source, emit light but we can't see it because they do this in the infrared region and not in visible wavelengths. Good! Thank you.
@Phantom-el6oe
@Phantom-el6oe 5 років тому
Manan Varma No, it's just heated up absorber that emits light and wears off in process. After few minutes of that solar panel loses effectiveness and dependig on type and absorber it could completely stop working
@mananvarma5944
@mananvarma5944 5 років тому
@@Phantom-el6oe So, doing that isn't advisable. LOL I was thinking of doing this. Thanks for saving my solar panel :-)
@Phantom-el6oe
@Phantom-el6oe 5 років тому
Manan Varma Always to your service sir
@mananvarma5944
@mananvarma5944 5 років тому
@@Phantom-el6oe Roger That! Thank you sir!
@patrikgubeljak9416
@patrikgubeljak9416 4 роки тому
@@Phantom-el6oe No, it's not true, and that is not how diodes generate light! If you had a GaAs or a direct gap semiconductor panel, it would glow, once you apply voltage bigger than the bandgap. But it would not emit IR. In the case of Si diodes, they will not emit light because they are indirect bandgap semiconductors.
@quetzalcoatl-pl
@quetzalcoatl-pl 2 роки тому
I love the speaker-microphone analogy!
@robertmccully2792
@robertmccully2792 3 роки тому
Good video. Illustrations such as these are needed for my brain to understand anything. Must have some diodes crossed in my head.
@-book
@-book 5 років тому
When you find a really cool UKpostsr and you're like: Ohhhhhh this awesome dude!
@rushthezeppelin
@rushthezeppelin 5 років тому
BTW cameras with the IR filter removed might not be able to do thermal imaging BUT they can act as a digital night vision.
@jelteklaswijnja4055
@jelteklaswijnja4055 5 років тому
And it's super easy to modify most webcams!
@sidharthcs2110
@sidharthcs2110 5 років тому
But needs IR illumination
@JefeInquisidorGOW
@JefeInquisidorGOW 4 роки тому
@@sidharthcs2110 you can do that with your remote control led
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 3 роки тому
No video camera will do thermal imaging. Glass lenses wont even pass the light.
@CELTICSAVAGE32
@CELTICSAVAGE32 3 роки тому
Fascinating!!!!! Thank you for sharing this!!
@patrickhowden1601
@patrickhowden1601 3 роки тому
Presentation Excellent. Immensely interesting in a short time. Likable chap. Thank you.
@PierreThierryKPH
@PierreThierryKPH 3 роки тому
Is there a link between the frequency of light emitted by a diode and how it would absorb light? That is, for example, do solar panels absorb near-IR better than other frequencies when they emit near-IR?
@Rudxain
@Rudxain 2 роки тому
This is related to resonance. My hypothesis is that if a solar panel is "tuned" (like a string instrument) to resonate at a specific frequency or wavelength, it should be very efficient at absorbing it AND emitting it. However, ultraviolet light has *A LOT* more energy than infrared, and more than visible spectrum. This is why the sun is used as source, because it generates more energy without the need for "tuning". Quantum Dots have the special ability to be "tuned" (only at build time), so if you make a QD solar panel with a lot of QDs tuned to multiple frequencies (specially UV) you get A LOT more energy than traditional panels!
@matthewgiles5757
@matthewgiles5757 5 років тому
Every diode is a light emitting diode, but sometimes only once!
@GRBtutorials
@GRBtutorials 5 років тому
Same applies to almost any component!
@nopparuj
@nopparuj 5 років тому
Also smoke emitting diode as well.
@GRBtutorials
@GRBtutorials 5 років тому
Nopparuj Oh, yeah, the SED
@pentachronic
@pentachronic 5 років тому
Yeah and after that once, it becomes a Dark Emitting Diode !!
@SamuelLing
@SamuelLing 5 років тому
*ElectroBoom agrees
@jek__
@jek__ 3 роки тому
2:15 lol, i love the cut of you almost looking at the camera, but stopping just before you get there solar panels would be pretty cool for sending secret messages, flashing text in infrared if you could apply a very specific current to them, though maybe they need more control to be used to display data
@WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc
@WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc 5 років тому
Used to use speaker as a cheap mic in my place, usually using the tweeter
@RobertCole1981
@RobertCole1981 4 роки тому
just a quick question, does this mean Infared leds will act better than regular leds as solar panels?
@johnlocke9609
@johnlocke9609 4 роки тому
Great question! Didn't even think of that.
@andrewnetherton652
@andrewnetherton652 3 роки тому
Infrared LEDs can absorb a broader range of the solar emission spectrum than visible LEDs, yes. But both IR and VIS LEDs are bad solar cells.
@thisisamazingrl
@thisisamazingrl 4 роки тому
Question: how many usual LEDs would it take to make a decent solar panel ? Thanks for the awesome video 👍
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 3 роки тому
LEDs don’t make decent solar panels. If you optimize an LED to efficiently generate electricity, you end up with a solar cell.
@Korgon2013
@Korgon2013 2 роки тому
This is pretty cool. Well done.
@mathewghoneysett7756
@mathewghoneysett7756 4 роки тому
Hi Steve I had no idea about diodes thankyou from Australia
@shakibm1558
@shakibm1558 4 роки тому
2:53 my 13 year old emo self would've created a UKposts channel just so I can upload videos with visible light filtered out
@snakeru1
@snakeru1 2 роки тому
Filtering out visible light is easy. Just put the lens cap back on.
@rakeshvishwakarma2205
@rakeshvishwakarma2205 4 роки тому
Super one bro, you kind of superman the way your voice and briefings its all awesome, you rock and einstein
@scarce911
@scarce911 3 роки тому
I was just wondering about rectifier diodes and how similar to leds are..4 days ago. Interesting! Subbed for the learning!
@jamesb2291
@jamesb2291 3 роки тому
I remember reading a Robert Heinlein book or story that had basically foretold PV solar panels and described them as emitting light when fed electrical current or producing energy when exposed to light.
@ronnor1579
@ronnor1579 5 років тому
can you light up a LED just with shining a light on a different LED?
@LeonidasSthlm
@LeonidasSthlm 5 років тому
Yes! It's not very effective but it should work.
@liammargetts
@liammargetts 5 років тому
Yeah, though you'd need multiple LEDs to power the one LED to a good enough standard That is if you're not artificially powering the LEDs, but then again you'd probably need quite a few LEDs
@karlkastor
@karlkastor 5 років тому
Yes! It's similar to an optocoupler.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 5 років тому
Yes but you generally need to have a lot of light shining on the first LED and the second must have a lower voltage drop. done it shining a blue LED onto a green GaAsP led and using the voltage generated to light a hyperbright red LED. You generally will have to shield the blue LED and the green one, as otherwise the light from the red is nearly invisible in the glare, the efficiency overall is so low. You also have to couple the blue and green together well, so flat top ones are best with some tubing joining them.
@DanteYewToob
@DanteYewToob 5 років тому
Wouldn't that just be using a solar panel to light an LED? Hahaha
@tttITA10
@tttITA10 5 років тому
Aren't the circuits' schematics at 0:13 reversed in relation to what the battery is doing in the experiment behind?
@time-lapserpro4370
@time-lapserpro4370 5 років тому
Shorter is positive.
@stickyfox
@stickyfox 5 років тому
@@time-lapserpro4370 might wanna look that one up again. (yeah, they're reversed)
@MuhammadAhmed-gm1bv
@MuhammadAhmed-gm1bv 5 років тому
i was wondering the same
@ponsaravanan
@ponsaravanan Рік тому
Great video. Learnt a few things about led and solar relationship.
@mariusritschel4017
@mariusritschel4017 Рік тому
Great job you're doing!
@SeanSiquig
@SeanSiquig 5 років тому
*_why don’t we just use redstone?_*
@jesusjesus2807
@jesusjesus2807 5 років тому
2:04 yes you can call it an LED even if it emits IR. Any diode that emits any wavelength of the electromagnetic spectrum is an LED. Look out for those gamma emissions though OUCH!
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 5 років тому
I wouldn't worry too much about gamma rays. Most PN junctions are monochromatic. They emit in a very narrow spectrum. If you can't see the light, because it's outside of the visible spectrum, you might just want to check. (I was going to say: "Look into it", but that might be a bad idea!)🤣😁😝
@neurhlp
@neurhlp 5 років тому
The semiconductor bandgap (1-10eV) limits the photons energy, so you will never get gamma photons (100keV) . The only way to get gamma or X-ray if you put millions of amperes in the diode and it explodes very violently, resulting in lots of UV photons, some X-ray photons, and maybe some gamma photons from excited nuclei.
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 5 років тому
@@neurhlp Is that what they call a gamma ray burst?🤣😁😝 As far as sending and receiving at the same time, to illuminate, you have to apply enough voltage to forward bias the diode junction. If the LED is exposed to light, than if the voltage is reduced below forward bias, there will still be voltage across the terminals. You just need to load the diode, so it stays just below junction voltage, to get maximum energy back out of it. As far as efficiency, it's actually quite high, considering the very small area of the LED Vs a solar cell. A screen has millions of them, giving them the surface area of a solar panel, and producing close to similar efficiency. The only thing that makes the idea impractical for now, is that each pixel, represented by each LED element, needs a push-pull pulse width modulator, with an inductor. The magnetics would be very difficult to scale down that many into something the size of a lap-top, let alone a smart phone. in theory it can be done, but not practical for now.
@g1998k
@g1998k 4 роки тому
Amazing video Steve. Being a Civil Engineering I can confirm that this video was a great CPD for myself.
@TF11studio
@TF11studio 3 роки тому
Dear Steve thank You! You've just opened a window as when i understood microphones and speaker are two ways of the same principle with Sound frequencies. Now You added Light frequencies!!! 😎🙏🏻🙏🏻
@kubeek
@kubeek 5 років тому
0:29 I gues you mean a solid state diode, as opposed to a vacuum tube diode?
@gcewing
@gcewing 5 років тому
Actually, any vacuum tube diode would probably work as a photodiode to some extent, and will emit X-rays with a high enough anode voltage.
@TiagoTiagoT
@TiagoTiagoT 5 років тому
@@gcewing Won't pretty much anything emit x-rays with high enough voltage?
@enoughofyourkoicarp
@enoughofyourkoicarp 5 років тому
Her: "Did you put the Christmas lights up?" Me: *looks at solar panels* "Get a camera." (I am so lazy) Her: (He's so intelligent) Me: *Buys Steve a drink*
@Phantom-el6oe
@Phantom-el6oe 5 років тому
*Wears off solar panel that cost more than whole Christmas*
@oligarchytheatre777
@oligarchytheatre777 3 роки тому
I appreciate your time and video content...
@boatbrokerpro1323
@boatbrokerpro1323 4 роки тому
Great work Steve
@_Dylanm
@_Dylanm 5 років тому
I had to check this wasn't a troll video after the speakers and microphones fact
@HelamanGile
@HelamanGile 5 років тому
solar panel camera next
@nevilsurya1
@nevilsurya1 4 роки тому
Thank you for the information brother
@TheSkaBouncer
@TheSkaBouncer 2 роки тому
2:46 how did you filter out the visible light?? Did you place some other type of physical filter into the camera, or was there some post processing involved? I'd love to know so I can use such a cool look for projects of my own
@AlRoderick
@AlRoderick 5 років тому
Film scene idea, geeky hero jury rigs a blinking infrared beacon on the roof of a bad guy building by feeding a voltage into the solar panels that their backup can spot on night vision.
@heroslippy6666
@heroslippy6666 5 років тому
Now that would be cool.
@hellboystein2926
@hellboystein2926 4 роки тому
Ever heard anything about the difference between Direct- an Indirect-Semiconductors?! Propably not! In fact it's quite difficult to get any kind of 'effective' electroluminescense from Silicon, regardless of other 'tricks' like doping, structuring,..and regardless of the desired wavelength!
@patrikgubeljak9416
@patrikgubeljak9416 4 роки тому
Thank god, finally someone in the entire comment section who knows something.
@allinno168
@allinno168 4 роки тому
Its appreciated that he explains a very complex thing with the laymen understanding way
@MicahTheManiac
@MicahTheManiac 5 років тому
Hello, I was reminded of this video when searching how to convert a camera to an infrared (near infrared) camera. I was first wondering if you did the conversion yourself. If you did, what did you use to filter out visible light? I see many people online recommending a Rosco Congo Blue filter, and I am sure it works, but I was wondering if you recommended something better. Anyways this is an amazing video, have a great day.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 3 роки тому
Ir filter from edmund scientific.
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