Why American Cities Are Broke - The Growth Ponzi Scheme [ST03]

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This is the 3rd video in the Strong Towns series, and is probably the most important core topic: the fact that American car-dependant cities and suburbs are financially insolvent, and function like a Ponzi scheme. This is the reason most American cities are bankrupt.
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This video is a summary of the "Growth Ponzi Scheme" articles, published by Strong Towns:
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Strong Towns publishes a lot of cases studies of American municipal insolvency. Here are a few of them:
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There is a lot more to read, too! Strong Towns has a library of articles about building strong and resilient towns and cities that goes back over 15 years:
www.strongtowns.org/stmedia
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Other References & Video Sources:
Give Yourself the Green Light (1954) (Public Domain)
Henry Jamison Handy
archive.org/details/GiveYour1954
According to Plan: The Story of Modern Sidewalls for the Homes of America
Henry Jamison Handy
archive.org/details/Accordin1952
Settlement Pattern and Form with Service Cost Analaysis
Halifax Regional Municipality - Regional Planning
usa.streetsblog.org/wp-conten...
Traditional Development - #6 in the Strong Towns Curbside Chat Video Series
Strong Towns (UKposts):
• Traditional Developmen...
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:05 The History of Sprawl
1:03 What is a Ponzi Scheme?
1:51 The Problem
2:19 How it Started
4:17 Graphical Examples
6:27 The Excuses
7:35 The Canadian Example
8:12 Conclusion
9:02 Patreon Shoutout
9:18 Outro

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@NotJustBikes
@NotJustBikes 3 роки тому
Watch the rest of this series here: ukposts.info/slow/PLJp5q-R0lZ0_FCUbeVWK6OGLN69ehUTVa
@Poolie
@Poolie 3 роки тому
77532 haha INS
@tescomealdeals4613
@tescomealdeals4613 3 роки тому
can you do another one of these suburbs videos I like to watch videos on why sprawl sucks, it reaffirms my bias😁
@JulianSloman
@JulianSloman 3 роки тому
@@tescomealdeals4613 But... there's no episode 4! :O I want mooore *mwhuuuaaaeehU* (baby noises :D )
@Poolie
@Poolie 3 роки тому
@Corey Mcnickle bot account
@Poolie
@Poolie 3 роки тому
@Kyle Matthew bot account
@Ochemypie
@Ochemypie 2 роки тому
The more I learn about the U.S, the more I wonder how this country has survived this long
@Conclusius68
@Conclusius68 3 роки тому
Now the rise of the SUV makes sense. The heavy duty wheels and suspension are necessary to survive the crumbling infrastructure. 😂
@NotJustBikes
@NotJustBikes 3 роки тому
The suburban pothole machine.
@AlRoderick
@AlRoderick 3 роки тому
You ain't wrong, I'm from Michigan in the place where all the American automakers except for Tesla are headquartered, and our roads are like what would happen if the surface of the Moon could get snow.
@JasperJanssen
@JasperJanssen 3 роки тому
@@AlRoderick Americans are people who think the roads in Belgium are good. (You can always tell the border from Netherlands to Belgium by the sounds your wheels suddenly start making)
@Langor
@Langor 3 роки тому
And ironically due to the added weight contribute to faster deterioration of said roads 👍🏾
@Zones33
@Zones33 3 роки тому
Also the increased obesity rate in children
@Patangy
@Patangy 2 роки тому
I always wondered how they could afford to build the roads to every house everywhere. It turns out they couldn't afford it.
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 2 роки тому
They could, if they reduced military spending a bit and put that money into infra
@lubu2960
@lubu2960 2 роки тому
@@sepg5084 they can do both actually, have a high military spending and spend more in infraestructure.
@yuanruichen2564
@yuanruichen2564 2 роки тому
without military the US is no longer US
@frankie5373
@frankie5373 2 роки тому
ofcourse they can't afford it. every road has potholes 🤣
@HimanshuSharma-oe4mk
@HimanshuSharma-oe4mk 2 роки тому
+1
@EK-mx7zb
@EK-mx7zb 2 роки тому
As a civil engineer, I have long suspected that our infrastructure is over-built...there is no way it is sustainable, just spend some time in the midwest or the rust belt.
@junioradult6219
@junioradult6219 Рік тому
Were in midwest? Ive seen some amazing places infastructure wise in the midwest. The worst i ever saw was on the coasts and the south
@russshappard1059
@russshappard1059 Рік тому
@@junioradult6219 The Rust Belt... where we used to manufacture cars and export goods from. Then we kicked down the trade barriers to Japan and China, Europe recovered from bombing itself into the Stone Age, and Baby Boomers spent decades living in luxury in single income homes in the burbs. That's what was not sustainable, thinking we would be on top forever. The 70's Union Strikes, OPEC, Nixon opening China trade barriers, and Carter Stagflation ended that dream. Now Michigan, Illinois, Ohio, Wisconsin, Indiana, and Pennsylvania have cities crumbling from loss of jobs overseas. No income, no taxes, no infrastructure. Simple economics. The worst infrastructure goes hand in hand with the largest city spending on pensions, still paying for votes from decades past, no longer able to pay for much else.
@Grateful.knits99
@Grateful.knits99 Рік тому
You angered one.
@malachiwhite356
@malachiwhite356 Рік тому
Do you have an opinion on why Biden is pushing hard for an infrastructure bill?
@LockheedMartinEnjoyer
@LockheedMartinEnjoyer Рік тому
The rust belt is interesting and a case study of its own, where a major city can have just about any type of work force these automotive towns are all built to house majority of it's employees. Grew up in a very blue collar city right outside Detroit the auto plants are construct in a specific zone that no less than 10 mins of a drive away.
@tacticallemon7518
@tacticallemon7518 2 роки тому
went from “America’s ok, could use a little public investment, like healthcare and busses” to “My hometown is a mess” in about a week
@mr.hotpockets3425
@mr.hotpockets3425 2 роки тому
lol
@Grass_on_yo_Lawn
@Grass_on_yo_Lawn 2 роки тому
Literally same
@tacticallemon7518
@tacticallemon7518 2 роки тому
@@urbanistgod Dearest carbrain, i hope this letter finds you well. After marching to my internet lightbox, and doing some typing, I’ve discovered that some psychologists found that the most effective first step in brainwashing among cults, is convincing your victim they were brainwashed. As you can tell, this conflicts with your previous letter. I’d like to believe you’re doing this in good faith, but the tests, both in theory and practice show which one of us stands on the right side of science. Furthermore, I doubt anyone wants to send out upwards of $8k a year just to keep their personal blunt-force-trauma generators running, as there are far better and far cheaper alternatives to appeasing OPEC. Still, war is on the horizon. News has it that Russia is preparing to start a war. Though we may be powerless to stop it, the draft is in Uncle Sam’s hand, ready to be thrown in the name of oil, opposed to humanitarian relief. Other than that, all is well. My three thousand pound paperweight hasn’t been touched in months, and I’ve been able to afford many more luxuries in my life, despite not really wanting them.
@CGI__
@CGI__ 2 роки тому
@@urbanistgod It's allright. I have a master in urban planning and it's not brainwashing. I'm specialized in housing and financial markets and in post-suburbanization. There's evidence. Believe me not too few evidence. When there will be another serious oil crisis someday it will get quite uncomfortable in the usa my friend.
@Starmast3rmusic
@Starmast3rmusic 2 роки тому
@@urbanistgod Not going to happen as fast as we need it to. There are also a bunch of other issues. Charging infra isn't there yet, not to mention power in some states, like California, can be as expensive as 35+ cents a kWh depending on where you are (in this case, gas being 4+ dollars a gallon is still cheaper than charging an electric car). Power in other states isn't generated as cleanly as it needs to be. Producing and recycling batteries will be a huge problem in the near future when electric cars do finally catch on. Also, electric cars aren't cheap enough for the average consumer yet. Electric cars are a bad answer to poor urban planning and terrible public infrastructure. Still better than ICE vehicles, but potentially not by much and has still has a lot of trade offs.
@matthewk6731
@matthewk6731 3 роки тому
Years ago I started to wonder why "They", whoever the heck "They" are, keep building new roads when we can't even pay for the roads we have now. I work for a city and can tell you that the administration may know they have a problem and just kick the can down the road until they retire so it becomes someone else's problem. Now That's Good Government!
@ognargormsby7121
@ognargormsby7121 3 роки тому
The problem is not being unable to pay to maintain the roads, Baltimore gets 17% of all fuel taxes from the entire state of Maryland which is multiples of what they actually pay. The problem with the cities is they are plagued by corrupt politicians who waste money to buy votes and make their friends and donors rich! I prefer to live in a nice crime free area outside of the suburbs and drive to a store over living in expensive, crowded, polluted, mismanaged cities!
@vanessamcqueen5768
@vanessamcqueen5768 3 роки тому
theft in reality
@motokenny8045
@motokenny8045 3 роки тому
You really just described baby boomers
@reubenmorris487
@reubenmorris487 3 роки тому
Happens in big business too...that resignation mindset.
@reubenmorris487
@reubenmorris487 3 роки тому
@@motokenny8045 Many of us were raised by the baby boomers.
@Waldemarvonanhalt
@Waldemarvonanhalt 2 роки тому
The 1940's was basically when the American motor industry grew big enough to buy the political clout necessary to direct government policies regarding urban development in their favour.
@nogitsune4542
@nogitsune4542 2 роки тому
As a german who lived in the us, ca and many other places i must say i never noticed how well designed europe is until i watched this channel. One of my dreams was always to someday move to canada bc of many reasons. Now i know better than that, its rlly sad seeing how the us and ca are screwing themselves over with this scam growth scheme.. as someone who doesnt even have a driver license i sincerly thank you for bringing these issues up as i wouldve hated it living in na!
@lynb87
@lynb87 Рік тому
There are nice areas but sadly it's not the norm and people recognise it as nice so it's way too expensive.
@danieljprice9317
@danieljprice9317 Рік тому
To be fair, in the 1940s your country lent a hand and…let’s say “incentivised” so many European cities to rethink how best they could design their communities. My country did much the same in Japan and later, Korea. US cities haven’t had to completely begin from scratch all over again (yet).
@trequor
@trequor Рік тому
Canada is larger than the United States with a tenth of the population. It's either drive cars or don't leave home.
@_SereneMango
@_SereneMango Рік тому
Here in Chile I'd always hear that "driving is a privilege, not a right", both at driving school and taking the license exams. But now I see it's a forced right in the US and Canada.
@MrCarpediem6
@MrCarpediem6 Рік тому
having grown up moslty in N.America; what attributes of American 'city design' do you dislike most of? I wonder, as having family from Europe they disliked the windy bendy roads of their countries past.. me.. i prefer the quaintness, and practically of it - streets and roads, as opposed to "stroads". :)
@dannyhantx
@dannyhantx 2 роки тому
"America is one giant shopping mall." -George Carlin
@erickjuma7643
@erickjuma7643 2 роки тому
Haha yeah, big malls and mini malls
@donaldspaulding6973
@donaldspaulding6973 2 роки тому
Without sidewalks, so you are forced to drive to it!
@lordken33
@lordken33 2 роки тому
That hits on a philosophic level
@engrumarkhan
@engrumarkhan 2 роки тому
Come to Middle East baby 😁
@donn.4766
@donn.4766 2 роки тому
Malls are awesome. If you want , you can go live somewhere else. Thought so.
@Octoberstorm333
@Octoberstorm333 2 роки тому
Not having a car in a Texas suburb is absolutely paralyzing. Walking to the gas station in the winter I manage to pass an old barn and pet horses meanwhile ongoing traffic to the right of me, and 30 minutes of walking past houses. Nothing but houses.
@Zeromaus
@Zeromaus Рік тому
That's not even suburbia, you live in a rural country area and there's nothing wrong with this design.
@quintensaenz1538
@quintensaenz1538 Рік тому
i live closer to dallas. not good!! i can walk to a few places as im fortunately close to a main road but all thats walkable is this little shopping area with a coffee shop, boutiques, antique stores, etc. otherwise my city (and every other city ive been to in texas) is not very walkable at all, which makes me quite sad as i greatly prefer walking over driving
@australiantruckspotting8883
@australiantruckspotting8883 Рік тому
Probably still better than driving
@QubicMeter
@QubicMeter 2 роки тому
I've been binging these videos recently, and it always surprises me how similar American suburbs are. Every time I see footage of a suburban sprawl, it looks like my hometown. Same asphalt desert with nothing but a shit fast-food restraunt, a supermarket, and a shady bar to entertain you.
@Zeromaus
@Zeromaus Рік тому
Beats the hell of inner city and the emptiness of anywhere rural.
@kyratawney7591
@kyratawney7591 2 роки тому
Can we also talk about how a lot of city infrastructures like roads and sidewalks don't actually need to be replaced as often as they are due to decreased production quality so that construction companies can replace them more often? Where I lived when I went to high school had an area of roads and sidewalks that were date stamped from the very early 1900s and they looked better than some of the newer roads. The same with my childhood hometown. I went back after being away for 15 years and the rock-paved road outside my old house was almost exactly the same as what was in my baby pictures give or take a small repair here and there. All the time I lived there until I moved in high school, no one ever did anything to the roads because they didn't need to. America is built on a system of waste in a misguided effort to "create" jobs. Not only do our city layouts need to change but how things get built does too.
@karigrandii
@karigrandii 2 роки тому
This is why capitalism doesnt work
@elvastan
@elvastan 2 роки тому
@@Xingmey Until workers size the means of production, the wealth of a society will always flow up, and those who own much will own everything, and those who own little will own nothing at all. That's capitalism's natural trajectory, and awful city planning brought about by lobbying is a symptom of this problem.
@tubetrox2
@tubetrox2 2 роки тому
I used to work for the state DOT in New Jersey. There are some stretches of concrete highway that were built in the '20s that are still in use today. They tend to be in more rural locations where the roads did not need to be expanded. I don't know what they did different with the concrete back then, but I wish we still used concrete like that.
@totaltechno7510
@totaltechno7510 2 роки тому
@@Xingmey It is the least worst economic system, US capitalism doesn't work. A market cannot be completely free because product quality will drop and production gets so efficient that nobody can buy the products you produce. Europe is a lot better but not perfect. Pay grades have to increase almost threefold while regulation keeps improving product standards.
@ixlnxs
@ixlnxs 2 роки тому
You raise a very good point. And the early 1900s is not even that old. I've walked on roads that were built before Christ. And not just Roman roads in Europe. I've seen some here in Asia, from China to India. Cobblestones, of course, but still fit for walking, cycling and driving.
@Plisko1
@Plisko1 2 роки тому
Read a book called "Geography of Nowhere" that addressed this issue in the 90's. All of our sense of place and identity are being eaten up by sprawling suburbs that all look the same. I live in Phoenix AZ... probably the worst example next to LA. Phoenix has a tiny downtown and 100 miles of suburb in each direction. Driving through Phoenix is like a Flinstones cartoon where they are running and the background just keeps repeating over and over in a loop. I also lived in NYC. This is the exact opposite. The problem there is that dense cities are expensive as hell to live in. So the dense urban design is just for the wealthy. Every time the lower ranks get creative and turn old industrial areas into loft apartments... the wealthy make it trendy, the real estate tycoons buy it up, and rent goes up to $3000 per month.
@adriant396
@adriant396 2 роки тому
GG
@matthewfontaine4928
@matthewfontaine4928 2 роки тому
Boy this guy really knows how to kill a buzz
@eduardochavacano
@eduardochavacano 2 роки тому
nice descriptions.
@mephistopheles6806
@mephistopheles6806 2 роки тому
Yeah I hate that sht. It's loathsome actually.
@NJGuy1973
@NJGuy1973 2 роки тому
I read James Howard Kunstler's other books like The Long Emergency.
@jbw53191
@jbw53191 2 роки тому
I retired to a small town in Mexico and everything is SO walkable. Whenever I come back to the US everything seems so big, flat, spread out, and sterile.
@ProudBM19
@ProudBM19 2 роки тому
Yep...
@rorscach1
@rorscach1 2 роки тому
And I always thought this was just a Texas thing.
@josephhernandez9531
@josephhernandez9531 2 роки тому
Its horrible, everything here looks the same. I’ve been all over this country and 99% of the towns I’ve been to are interchangeable square miles of dilapidated, disgusting commercial districts with illuminated plastic signs surrounded by soulless suburbs for miles and miles. “Sterile” is the perfect word for it. It’s no wonder Americans have become so materialistic, we need something to make ourselves happy while stuck in cities hopelessly deficient in community, beauty, culture, and livability.
@ProudBM19
@ProudBM19 2 роки тому
@@josephhernandez9531 "It’s no wonder Americans have become so materialistic," Totally *Agree* With Your Statement!!
@dexterwestin3747
@dexterwestin3747 2 роки тому
@@josephhernandez9531 You don't have to live in the burbs if you don't want - there are many wonderful towns with a lot of charm and all of the qualities you mentioned (community, beauty, culture, etc.). You are just in the wrong place.
@dropGwolf
@dropGwolf 2 роки тому
Once you see how the profitability runs out at end-of-life, the Ponzi scheme analogy makes sense. Basically, the cycle of promised revenue and temporary gains digs the hole deeper and deeper till it crashes. At this point, I've lost track of all the self-defeating and self-destuctive practices that take place in the US.
@xcluenic
@xcluenic Рік тому
Suburbs was built to keep a certain demographic out of the burbs. Now, the children of their grand and great grand parents are trying to move back into the city limits because of the lack of public transportations, walkable cities, etc . How things have changed
@mrmab24
@mrmab24 2 роки тому
This must be why Las Vegas is still developing communities despite the fact that there is not enough water in Lake Mead for the current population. 😒
@mephistopheles6806
@mephistopheles6806 2 роки тому
In other words: Greed!
@AUniqueHandleName444
@AUniqueHandleName444 2 роки тому
@@mephistopheles6806 It's more that people want to live there. There are plenty of places that have more than enough water, but their weather isn't as pleasant, so people don't move there. The Great Lakes region is cheap and has amazing quality of life, but the weather is pretty bad, so people don't go there.
@mephistopheles6806
@mephistopheles6806 2 роки тому
@@AUniqueHandleName444 you think the Great Lakes are cheap? Come to Western NY. Not cheap. Houses are cheaper but the property and sales taxes are brutal.
@jaoh6659
@jaoh6659 2 роки тому
@@AUniqueHandleName444 Vegas doesn't have good weather, it's in the middle of a scorching desert.
@juliussgoatfanatic6133
@juliussgoatfanatic6133 2 роки тому
@@jaoh6659 thats only for 2/3 months, and it aint even that bad, ive gone on walks often here at 100degrees u get used too it, everything is really close here too
@larrydrozd2740
@larrydrozd2740 2 роки тому
I've said this for years, over and over, its not a "democrat/republican" thing, its a broken economic model. It never added up to me, now I understand why.
@notOL01
@notOL01 2 роки тому
Pretty much just capitalism
@ethanstump
@ethanstump 2 роки тому
the thing that eats me up, is that this economic model is supposed to benefit the rich, and yet it almost seems to do just slightly less damage to them than everyone else, rather than actually benefitting the rich. so it doesn't even do the stupid part right, which is the whole point of it! i wonder why the rich are not able to do the right thing, even for themselves?
@lb9355
@lb9355 2 роки тому
If you're assuming the video was being honest. But it isn't honest and it paints an unrealistic picture of revenue and cost that isn't borne out by fact. If it were honest they would have shown hard ledger data proving their point, but they can't, so they don't.
@blantant
@blantant 2 роки тому
To alll the whiny internet people that thinks the "system" only benefits the rich please open a book and study the alternatives.
@TheSiprianus
@TheSiprianus 2 роки тому
@@notOL01 explain
@viewfromthehillswift6979
@viewfromthehillswift6979 Рік тому
I lived in Phoenix AZ for most of 1968-1981. It was obvious that it's own sprawling growth was a major industry and basis for the local economy. It was also obvious that someday the music had to stop. Not sorry I left. I now live in a densely populated old city and take rapid transit almost everywhere.
@jlpack62
@jlpack62 Рік тому
There's a layer of taxation irony that comes with this narrative as well. That is to say that urban dwellers who live in towers, and who are not contributing to the sprawl, pay way more property taxes per acre, even though they aren't contributing to the ponzi scheme. Even at the individual unit level, they are often also paying more property taxes per square foot of living area within their homes, despite not having a plot of land under them that they individually own.
@peperoni_pepino
@peperoni_pepino 2 роки тому
The main thing I've learned most from this series of videos: "Why Cities: Skylines feels so unnatural, ugly and problematic to non-American players." This unironically explains all my issues with the game; I tried to make a game focused on walking and public transport but the whole 'seperate residential and commercial areas' and all that made it really hard and ugly.
@NicholsKT
@NicholsKT 2 роки тому
Oh wow, is that why this video was suggested to me? Just discovered Citites: Skylines about three months ago. So mad I never heard about it before. I’ve started watching Euro build vids recently which made me stop playing the game. The American cities I started to build just looked so ugly and inefficient, encapsulating so many things that are broken within our country. It bothered me, when I zoned my first commercial area, to watch McDonald’s and Taco Bell auto generate. I immediately thought that all my sims should morph into obesity. That would make the gameplay hella realistic. I want to be able to design and build an idealized city, not recreate a bloated American one. I really, really, really wish some company would create a new city builder game that surpasses the limitations of the previous ones.
@Meitti
@Meitti 2 роки тому
But Cities:Skylines is a game made in Finland, so its a european game. Granted finnish cities dont actually look like usual Cities:Skylines cities.
@anindrapratama
@anindrapratama 2 роки тому
i guess it depends on how you play
@AirLancer
@AirLancer 2 роки тому
@@Meitti It's pretty much because they took the zoning system from SimCity, which has no combined residential/commercial zoning. It'd be great if they could implement such a thing, who knows, maybe the game itself could serve to educate people on how our cities could be improved (just as it makes people criticize their area's traffic management, lol). Honestly, as a New Yorker I hate how other American cities are often laid out. It's just so damn inconvenient to get anywhere, and everything's so far away. This sprawling mindset is also found in places like American military bases abroad, though at least in that case you wouldn't necessarily want everything densely packed due to the risk of enemy attack. In Okinawa, it was extremely inconvenient to get anywhere on foot on-base due to how far apart everything was, which sucks because lower-ranked members were generally not allowed to have their own cars. On the other hand, the city immediately outside the gates very often combined residential and commercial spaces to create interesting, walkable areas along with handy public transit.
@Meitti
@Meitti 2 роки тому
@@AirLancer Finnish cities are more like cities in rpg games than cities in city manager games:ukposts.info/have/v-deo/npVzmYuBfIyk2HU.html A strange mix of cityscape, suburbs and forest wilderness.
@RamonChiNangWong078
@RamonChiNangWong078 3 роки тому
When I was in Hong Kong or in Amsterdam, I was like. You know, let's go out, take a walk and grab something to eat nearby and I'll be at home in half an hour In Denver, everything seems so goddamm FAR away and everything is so car dependent
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 3 роки тому
And thus contributing to climate change more than any other country
@Chandiop
@Chandiop 3 роки тому
@@Rainaman- China is
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 3 роки тому
@@Chandiop not per capita. Also China makes everything for the world while US is mostly service based.
@jfo738
@jfo738 3 роки тому
You probably live in a suburb of Denver and not Denver itself. Saying this having lived in Denver proper my whole life, except for college years.
@timdowney6721
@timdowney6721 2 роки тому
@@Chandiop Nope. The per-capita greenhouse gas emissions of the US dwarf those of China.
@haddax
@haddax 2 роки тому
Almost the entirety of NJ is suburbia for NYC, and I think that this really illustrates why the taxes are so high here.
@sourstomacc8596
@sourstomacc8596 2 роки тому
I honestly love suburban environments, but maybe not typical ones that are in most of the US, rather, ones that actually have dramatic variety between home appearances and layouts. Suburban communities can seriously be beautiful and wonderful places to live, but there’s a lot of obstacles in the way of that most of the time. Usually American suburban areas built within the last 40 years are hot garbage though with those things in mind; no creativity or thought to the home or who would be living there. Literally my home is a suburban house from 1955, it’s pretty modest compared to new suburban ones, being at only about 1200 sq-ft and with just one bathroom. But it was built with great attention to detail and regard to who would be living there, and looks completely different from the houses surrounding it, despite being built at the same time by the same developers. Although suburban areas may not be as efficient, I personally would shoot myself if I had to live in a home attached to someone else’s for my whole life.
@DoctorDoom619
@DoctorDoom619 3 роки тому
"driving in soul crushing traffic" Laughs in Indian.
@movement2contact
@movement2contact 3 роки тому
Moscow #1 doe...
@NickRoman
@NickRoman 3 роки тому
Oh my god, I've been to New Delhi; so yeah lol
@DoctorDoom619
@DoctorDoom619 3 роки тому
@@NickRoman lmao. You don't even have to go to a big city. Go anywhere, people drive so haphazardly here omg.
@DoctorDoom619
@DoctorDoom619 3 роки тому
@@safe-keeper1042 yeah. Vietnam is a beautiful country. They share the same problem as us Indians. Poor road ethics.
@curranlakhani
@curranlakhani 3 роки тому
@@NickRoman Can confirm last time I was in New Delhi the tuk tuk driver insisted on driving on the wrong side of the road. Still don't know how I didn't shit myself....
@SuperSmashDolls
@SuperSmashDolls 3 роки тому
Conveniently, the typical length of a home loan is equal to that of the average service life of a new road. So by the time you've paid off your home, you're so frustrated about the state of your current neighborhood infrastructure that you want to leave and continue the cycle.
@SuperSmashDolls
@SuperSmashDolls 3 роки тому
@@dumpeeplarfunny You forgot the step where a land developer buys up a bunch of old, rented out homes and sweet-talks the local planning council into letting them evict everyone and bulldoze the building in favor of luxury apartments that provide less tax outlays, fewer units, and higher infrastructure costs... because everywhere else NIMBY'd the fuck out of his idea.
@virtualatall
@virtualatall 3 роки тому
I live in India, where all cities are growing. I realized same problem here, which now results inner cities in ever poor state. What now I feel that never stay at one home for more than 10-15 years... Keep buying at newly developed location and move on, coz once the infrastructure goes to replacement mode it becomes hell.... A full redevelopment of locality takes at least a generation time.
@hibiskus828
@hibiskus828 3 роки тому
Nobody in America ever actually lives in a house long enough to pay off their whole mortgage. Like 15 years tops, usually more like 7-10 though. You just roll the equity into a new mortgage over and over until you retire and go fuck off to an 80k condo in Florida.
@Rexini_Kobalt
@Rexini_Kobalt 3 роки тому
@@hibiskus828 only to realize that florida is exactly the same as the rest of america in this regard, only somehow its more... cursed? unappealing? shit? i dunno the word to describe it other than a pile of shit... thats been poorly spraypainted with, like, not gold... maybe a shade of bronze that _almost_ looks like gold? tl:dr florida is like the rest of america, only somehow its just way shittier
@sarahwood8943
@sarahwood8943 3 роки тому
@@Rexini_Kobalt The fact that most people are envious of Florida in America makes me loose hope in humanity as a whole. The place is bad but the people make it so much worse.
@Lemonz1989
@Lemonz1989 2 роки тому
I live in Denmark, and I love that I have a 5 to 20 minute walk (depending on which store) to like 10 grocery stores and a shopping center. Have access to around 7 bus lines within a 5 minute walk and a city rail system that drives directly to the central intercity train station in the city center, that also doubles as a shopping center. If I don’t want to walk I just use my electric bike. I will be investing in an electric scooter soon, that can ride on bike lanes, for longer trips as well.
@elenachristian9860
@elenachristian9860 2 роки тому
Sounds wonderful. I just moved to Denver, Colorado and incredibly I can walk to two grocery stores in shopping centers. A park with a 16 mile trail that leads to downtown is right there. I will never move back to "the burbs".
@MzShonuff123
@MzShonuff123 2 роки тому
I is loved being there! I walked everywhere and everything opens onto a public park with a ton of greenery.
@Ezekiel903
@Ezekiel903 2 роки тому
the same in Swiss and Italy!!!
@KBS_ar
@KBS_ar 2 роки тому
Denmarc is tiny. Your model can’t be used universally.
@Lemonz1989
@Lemonz1989 2 роки тому
​@@KBS_ar Universally compared to what? Most people live in cities, and if cities are designed properly, then there is no reason why it shouldn't be possible in a lot, if not most cities. My city has almost 300,000 people, it's not like it's a small, close knit village with 10k people. It's the same in capital Copenhagen, where 1.3 million people live.
@davidguiney1746
@davidguiney1746 2 роки тому
I've always known what a ponzi scheme is, but that was easily the simplist clearest and most concise description I've ever seen.
@eclipse369.
@eclipse369. Рік тому
he described all banks in a nutshell
@runswithraptors
@runswithraptors Рік тому
@@eclipse369. not banks necessarily just the practice of fractional reserve banking
@drafmine4526
@drafmine4526 3 роки тому
This really seems like a ticking time bomb ignored by almost all politicians because most regular folk don't know or care enough.
@harryraam9566
@harryraam9566 3 роки тому
thats why there is corona. cant figure out yourself, think further.
@Adderkleet
@Adderkleet 3 роки тому
It's worse: most regular folk want a large house in the suburbs. So any politician acting against it is going to lose a huge amount of voters.
@kevinlove4356
@kevinlove4356 3 роки тому
The planning time horizon for most politicians ends abruptly at their next date for reelection. If a major problem is looming, but will not manifest itself until after that date, then the attitude of most politicians is "not my problem."
@fisherfriendman
@fisherfriendman 3 роки тому
A ballot democracy ensures issues like this will never be discussed because which politician will want to upset their constituents?
@kevinlove4356
@kevinlove4356 3 роки тому
@@fisherfriendman Yes, the constituents have to care about the future. In a democracy the people get the politicians they deserve. May God help us all, because we have done an excellent job of demonstrating our incapability of governing ourselves.
@Realistic_Management
@Realistic_Management 3 роки тому
My hometown of Calgary has this exact problem in a really a bad way... since the price of oil tanked developers have been pushing to build over 14 new "communities" on the outskirts of town, just for the sake of economic growth. It's worrying because the associated cost of maintaining these communities could bankrupt the city, with office towers empty and businesses closing, the city's existing tax revenue simply can't make up the difference.
@NotJustBikes
@NotJustBikes 3 роки тому
Yes, this is exactly what Calgary is doing. They are the quintessential example of being in a period of decline due to the failure of an important industry. This kind of "growth" is just patching up the problem, while making it even worse for future generations.
@CLMBRT
@CLMBRT 3 роки тому
The council voted no to 11 of these new development though, while there are lots of mixed us development being built downtown and nearby. Calgary is (slowly) getting denser and with the to be constructed Green Line, I think the city is going in the right direction?
@Realistic_Management
@Realistic_Management 3 роки тому
@@CLMBRT There are certainly some positive things happening in Calgary, like increased density in the downtown core. However, the city continues to promote sprawl (I was referring to the 14 communities approved in 2018, not the 11 additional ones voted down last year). And now the provincial government seems intent on killing the Green Line...with the municipal election next year, things could go from bad to worse if this trajectory continues...
@Ikreisrond
@Ikreisrond 3 роки тому
While we, former urban planning students from Breda, The Netherlands, have explicitly given some sound advices on where and how to develop and grow. Mostly TOD further outward and more density and mixed use more to the city center. But hey, what do we Dutchies know, right? 🤣🤷🏼‍♂️
@Realistic_Management
@Realistic_Management 3 роки тому
​@@Ikreisrond Thank you for your hard work, I'm sorry we let you down. Unfortunately, what usually happens is our leaders choose the most politically expedient plans, regardless of their negative downstream consequences, to help with their own re-election. As we all know, if you want to change things, you're going to have to risk ruffling a few feathers. Until our leaders can get beyond, we're stuck with the status quo.
@k.chriscaldwell4141
@k.chriscaldwell4141 2 роки тому
My dad had a friend take a job with his small town (~13,000 pop.) as department head of public works. The friend found that, despite his reports reporting ample funds, he could not buy a new front loader. He was told that, despite what what was on paper, all the accounts had been raided. He had no money. He resigned soon there after.
@dohminkonoha3200
@dohminkonoha3200 Рік тому
I’m surprised that ordinary road of USA is much wider than Japanese highway. Even financing small roads of Japanese standard costs so much money,and I can’t imagine how vast amount of money is required for entire US roads.
@SergeyYakimenko
@SergeyYakimenko 2 роки тому
"Don't get me wrong: our cities need affordable housing" - always thought that affordable housing means apartments in multi-storey buildings, while separate houses is actually the most luxury option - just because they occupy more land and the infrastructure is naturally more expensive.
@petersep2100
@petersep2100 2 роки тому
Most Americans don’t understand this logic
@ironboy3245
@ironboy3245 2 роки тому
Yeah, apartment complexes is the most efficient way to provide cost-effective housing. Singapore HDB flats are exhibit A, look for polymatter's video on how Singapore solved housing
@pm2886
@pm2886 2 роки тому
@@ironboy3245 They only solved it because their citizens are socially responsible and compliant. Would never work in the West - people would gripe that the homes were not good enough, or were in the "wrong" place etc.
@ironboy3245
@ironboy3245 2 роки тому
@@pm2886 we also have racial quotas so we have diversity in our neighbourhoods. Helps stop racism when you're neighbours with Malays and Indians
@MADOUT_VPS
@MADOUT_VPS 2 роки тому
@@ironboy3245 where are they forcing non white families to move in? That’s horrible
@Timbotao
@Timbotao 3 роки тому
So true, I'm from Australia, and drove 12,000klms (8000miles) across America from New Orleans, Austin, Mississippi area, Memphis, Nashville, St Louis, Chicago, Detroit, (Toronto, Montreal), Boston and New York, doing music-y things in 2017... and did a lot of small towns, festivals in other areas, and side adventures along the way. Major highways, byways, and tiny country roads for nearly 4 months, spent time in lots of places and drove around the cities and suburbs and got to chatting to lots of people in music bars all over... and the thing that struck me the most about all over America was... it definitely wasn't as prosperous as it's made out to be. The infrastructure was definitely bad in a lot of places, roads were particularly bad in places, I also saw cement bridges, and highway overpasses that had concrete falling away with the steel reinforcing showing and rusting... It was like a lot of what you see on TV, the places that were significant, the big highways / important ones, main streets / tourist streets etc, were well maintained... but you could go 2 blocks over and they were in a terrible state of repair, pot holes, cracks, surfaces that were falling apart. And there definitely was a cookie-cutter vibe to what was available n the suburbs, deadend places with a Sonic/MacDonalds/KFC/Wendys and a gas station, then a strip mall with all the same outlets. Only some of the more important cities had managed to hold onto some of their own flavour/culture/individuality ... Some of the bigger cities the more poorer areas the streets looked like some of the destroyed, war torn eastern block European countries I have been to. It was an eye opener for what is supposed to be 'America'... it definitely had a facade feeling to it
@thevisitor784
@thevisitor784 3 роки тому
John Steinbeck described it perfectly. Roughly paraphrased, he said "The trouble with Americans is they don't know they're poor. They all believe they are temporarily embarrassed rich..."
@justleaveit1557
@justleaveit1557 3 роки тому
@@thevisitor784 Steinbeck wrote that a long time ago. A looong time ago. He is mostly talking about people that are dead. If you talk to your average American this is not a notion they harbor. It is a very simple, superficial way of dismissing American's though.
@thevisitor784
@thevisitor784 3 роки тому
@@justleaveit1557 People who think they are "free" because they don't have to spend 4% of their income to support free healthcare for all, while spending 20% of their income on health insurance, are operating under the same delusion. The symptoms may have changed a little, but the propagandized culture of loving your abusers and believing in the myth of upward mobility as tirelessly advertised by popular culture has not changed at all in 100 years.
@justleaveit1557
@justleaveit1557 3 роки тому
@@thevisitor784 You talk like nobody knows this. That was my point. Steinbeck was talking about different people. We know dude. We know what you are saying, we're not all just a bunch of walking nationalist zombies thinking we're going to be billionaires. That is superficial at best. Your point is meaningless, Steinbeck is talking about other people. If you think that's what all American's have as the foundation of their psyche, that helps us know more about your psyche, not American's.
@thevisitor784
@thevisitor784 3 роки тому
@@justleaveit1557 At least 50% of Americans have no idea. The point in quoting the past is that human attitudes can remain terribly constant. That's why we have this thing called "history". Read about it and while you're at it fix your grammar: it's not " American's " - a singular possessive, but " Americans' " that you're trying to write. The fascist colonialism that started picking up serious speed with Reagan selling drugs and defunding public education has had a profound impact, and the result is that the average American today is not only poorly educated compared to other wealthy nations, but also much less well-off relative to the country's GDP, more like in the dust-bowl years than in the '60s. What is called "middle class" in the US today has a lot of similarities to dust-bowl sharecroppers, esp. when it comes to existential insecurity: Almost 10% of all Americans are at risk of eviction right now. "We know dude" is not true. Nor is "Steinbeck is talking about other people". Try going to California's central valley. It got popular on social media to recognize how capitalism is screwing people in the past 5 years, but it it still a minority. The truth is that the average working-Joe believes that working harder will remove the insecurity, that there is some sort of "meritocracy". In reality the only merit that capitalism really rewards is the ability to help separate other people form their capital, and most working people don't realize that they're merely trying to earn enough to die while working in an idiotic Ponzi scheme, and believe they will eventually strike some sort of motherlode.
@ConWolfDoubleO7
@ConWolfDoubleO7 2 роки тому
Colorado Springs is a great example of this. The city bought into this idea that we needed more water for a future influx of people with growth like 20x its current size on the very outskirts of town. Then 2008 hit and all the housing developers pulled out. But they had already spent millions upon millions diverting a river uphill for the houses and not even paying for it, just giving an "IOU" to the land owners. They tried and failed to pass a tax to pay for it 3 times over the years and it only barely passed before the whole project was dropped right before it was finished.
@TheIronhyde1
@TheIronhyde1 Рік тому
See This is why I started to hate playing 'SIM CITY' on my PC, I feel the devs designed the game with American mentality in mind , cuz everything is split into zones. then I'm forced to expand the residential zones to bring more ppl to increase income & keep growing it more & more until I fill the whole cluster & my PC starts to lag. lol And you still get get enough income to cover the city's expenses. Literally even a computer city Simulation game can show how bad US style urbanism can be. They just want more land mass to consume.
@louwrentius
@louwrentius 3 роки тому
It’s called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it. - George Carlin
@Professor_Utonium_
@Professor_Utonium_ 3 роки тому
Cute quote, but largely useless for solving anything.
@barvdw
@barvdw 3 роки тому
@@Professor_Utonium_ Carlin was a pessimist through and through, he'd probably say we're f$cked either way, so stop whining, or something to that effect. I like to be a little more hopeful, but honestly, I understad why he thought it's all going to ruin.
@Professor_Utonium_
@Professor_Utonium_ 3 роки тому
@@barvdw I can accept that "so stop whining" part of it. Complaining just drains effort from doing more practical stuff. I also understand my hypocrisy here complaining, myself, so I'll see my way out now lol
@louwrentius
@louwrentius 3 роки тому
@@Professor_Utonium_ it isn’t meant to solve anything. And it is not useless: it makes an important point in a funny way that sticks.
@steve00alt70
@steve00alt70 3 роки тому
A dream is unattainable usually because its a dream
@Againsthegradient
@Againsthegradient 2 роки тому
It's so sad...I've been living in Europe for a couple years and can't believe how well designed and walkable most cities are. Coming back to Canada and the idea of walking to the store is just unheard of because the suburbs are so massive it would take over an hour just to get there without a car. I have a car back in Europe but only use it for road trips on the weekend and for large grocery trips. Otherwise it's actually more efficient to walk or bike into town.
@Blackstar1701
@Blackstar1701 2 роки тому
@@jourgil what
@lukasrojko5455
@lukasrojko5455 2 роки тому
I don't like walking. I love driving my car. For me it's relax.
@robert2690
@robert2690 2 роки тому
@@lukasrojko5455 Yes, driving a car with 10k of other cars, thus creating traffic. Yes, and while you stay in traffic, a guy with a bike is beating you, laughing you. Who gets the last laugh?
@epbski
@epbski 2 роки тому
Where do you live exactly?
@roteschwert
@roteschwert 2 роки тому
@@lukasrojko5455 You don't, but other people do. They should have the option to walk like we do to drive.
@rew1309
@rew1309 2 роки тому
Urban sprawl is the scourge of mankind. This is a great video. Having said that, I recently retired from working in the engineering department of a suburban city of Vancouver, BC. City finances were in great shape and I worked under the infrastructure planning section. We had sophisticated detection methods and software to optimize spending on roads, water and sewers. Not all cities are in dire deficit spending situation on infrastructure.
@jeremytheoneofdestiny8691
@jeremytheoneofdestiny8691 Рік тому
Urban sprawl is fine I guess. Suburban sprawl is the one that’s a scourge.
@jonbezeau3124
@jonbezeau3124 2 роки тому
I have lived in the same medium sized Canadian town most of my life, and seen the sprawl lifecycle go to the crisis point... new suburban development side-by-side with earlier neighbourhoods crumbling under the residents' feet
@KoenPrins
@KoenPrins 3 роки тому
The one thing I really do not understand is why it is deemed acceptable to build a country, a culture on debt. How can you sleep at night like that?
@tmnvanderberg
@tmnvanderberg 3 роки тому
Gotta beat the commies
@NotJustBikes
@NotJustBikes 3 роки тому
Better debt than red! 🤣
@bootedbuilds
@bootedbuilds 3 роки тому
I think "buying on credit" it's very much built into the North American culture. It's the danger of growing up with credit cards rather than debit cards. You get so used to actually paying for your stuff 'after the fact' that you become numb to the dangers of doing so. I'm not sure how much worse the "U.S. debt" is compared the the "Dutch debt" as far as the country as a whole goes, but when you've been raised to believe in growth and past generations always managed to pay off their debts (or they thought they did, anyway), you loose track of the debt and you become convinced a 'solution will come along in due time'. Until it doesn't... The problem is that far too many regions on earth are suffering the same. China has a massive real estate bubble, the shape Russia's in is no better and the U.S. I am sorry to say is also teetering on the brink. And when any one of these big three falls... I fear they'll pull down the rest with them because investments are so interwoven and international now... And adding covid to the mix...
@TheBigGSN5
@TheBigGSN5 3 роки тому
Debt is irrelevant. Fiat currency and MMT.
@Conclusius68
@Conclusius68 3 роки тому
The short answer: the Petrodollar.
@cearnicus
@cearnicus 3 роки тому
I look at aerial shots like 0:52, 3:28 and 6:12 and what I mostly see is parking lot. It really seems built for cars, not for people. Ugh, what an utter waste of space :/
@marketmaker2469
@marketmaker2469 3 роки тому
It is because everything is about money in the US. The politicians are bribed by big oil, automakers, insurance companies to create need for cars. That's why the US grants driving licenses the easiest in the world from senior to youth. More car, more oil, more insurance, more driver license and car registration fees -- hence urban sprawl and suburbs.
@Venomixia
@Venomixia 3 роки тому
3:28 is Cleveland. We had a huge influx a while ago and COVID essentially killed it. We’re doing okay it’s just not a lot is open in downtown.
@HellsJerome87
@HellsJerome87 3 роки тому
True, especially when they lay flat and not stacked or underground. But hey, at least that space might someday be used for future, denser developments.
@marketmaker2469
@marketmaker2469 3 роки тому
@@HellsJerome87 - The world population will start decline within few decades. Already started in Japan, Italy, Korea, Spain,etc.
@phillyblunt138
@phillyblunt138 3 роки тому
Paved paradise, put up a parking lot...
@genzu1111
@genzu1111 Рік тому
And it's funny our cities are also so full of cars. I live in nyc and i would love to bike everywhere instead of walking but its so dangerous. The number of people dying from a car hitting them on a bike is so high its astounding. Nyc wants so bad to be like a European city but they need to remove all these cars first
@danielfinn5022
@danielfinn5022 2 роки тому
I'd really love to see you analyse Australian suburban sprawl. It's not your wheelhouse perhaps but we have a similar problem with housing affordability problems thrown in
@mathiastwp
@mathiastwp 3 роки тому
The asfalt waste in American cities is insane.
@gwarlow
@gwarlow 3 роки тому
“Spelling” in American cities is even more insane. ;-)
@taekatanahu635
@taekatanahu635 3 роки тому
@@gwarlow They wizards??
@aorta538
@aorta538 3 роки тому
America, haha... You guys where booming,!!! 40 years ago... ;) -Love from Amsterdam 🤣
@codyherring3895
@codyherring3895 3 роки тому
the good news is - the vast majority (I've seen ~99%) of asphalt is recycled. It's probably the #1 most recycled material in the world. In Russia, somebody literally stole a road to sell the asphalt.
@woutervanr
@woutervanr 2 роки тому
@@codyherring3895 Yeah, but the labour is still wasted. Also the shocks the potholes cause (or even accidents) are a shame to say the least.
@EmperorNefarious1
@EmperorNefarious1 3 роки тому
I was actually having a conversation with my roommate about how infrastructure and urban planning were a root cause for a lot of American problems just before this video came out. thanks for the strong evidence for my point.
@NotJustBikes
@NotJustBikes 3 роки тому
There's way more than this when it comes to the cause of American problems. Watch this playlist from donoteat01: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/aJyniXiwhGOXu58.html
@zaptowee6625
@zaptowee6625 3 роки тому
Who cares if its cause for a problem. I don't want to live in an apartment my entire life, I would much rather own some land & have a house & some privacy. Have some trees between myself & the neighbour's.
@EmperorNefarious1
@EmperorNefarious1 3 роки тому
@@zaptowee6625 And you have that right, but governments need to make fully informed decisions before allowing suburbs to be built. That means the cost of such houses should go up, which raises their property tax, which makes them sustainable economically. In Economics terms this means you pay the full cost including all externalities, instead of being subsidized by the government like houses are now.
@zaptowee6625
@zaptowee6625 3 роки тому
@@EmperorNefarious1 Yeah, people in their neighborhood should be responsible for their own roads. Also developers should be allowed to build as much as they want. Housing is a matter of supply & demand like anything else, if the big problem & not affordable housing then increase supply. If there is financial incentive for devs to build then let them. But then communities should be on the hook for maintenance but now this presents an issue. What about lower class communities who cant afford to pay their own maintenance, well its gotta be subsidized. But is that fair for the people who have to pay a higher property tax, why should they pay a higher tax if their not getting anything in return for it? See now it's too complex, are places now suppose to privatize road maintenance to avoid this? I think the current system is actually pretty good as is. Year crap roads suck but that's one of the tradeoffs we have to make. Also worse roads lead to worse properity prices. It's all supply & demand.
@EmperorNefarious1
@EmperorNefarious1 3 роки тому
@@zaptowee6625 The problem is housing really isn't just a matter of supply and demand. if Local governments knew the true cost of a development they would go back to the developer and say "We did a cost analysis for the next 30 years and it looks like we're going to be up to our ears in debts in the long run with this deal. So give us a better one or no permit." then they would reach a good deal and the houses are built, or they don't make a deal and other developers get a chance to bid for the land. Or even a private individual, or group might want to buy the land and create actual sustainable communities that people want to live in, instead of the dead cookie cutter developments. It is an extremely complex problem, and the only solution to complex problems is information. With out it any answer people find is always going to be wrong or incomplete. My comment on property taxes is related to land value, if it costs a developer more to build the houses, they will charge more to sell them; Property tax is usually a percent of land value with some adjustment. Oh and thanks Not Just Bikes for the playlist, it was very informative. My roommate will be pleased to know I have even more facts to drown our discussions with.
@onceagain569
@onceagain569 Рік тому
I've never ever sat through an ad before but the ad you put from nebula with the people biking was totally worth it. No annoying voiceover about anything; just a nice sunny day with the sound of bikes in the background. Now this I can sit through ;)
@vokasimid5330
@vokasimid5330 Рік тому
1:10 In Indonesia, this is called 'Gali Lubang, Tutup Lubang' (Dig a Hole, Cover Another Hole)
@connoralexander5999
@connoralexander5999 2 роки тому
All my favorite city planning channels always call out my hometown metro of Kansas City. Which makes sense, we got duped into removing all our streetcars in order to get a car factory. Hey, you should do a video in that!
@SSW9133
@SSW9133 Рік тому
As a kc native this hits hard
@justinbremer2281
@justinbremer2281 Рік тому
Damn, Judge Doom got to you, too? Condolences.
@blakksheep736
@blakksheep736 Рік тому
I'm so sorry.
@HansLemurson
@HansLemurson 3 роки тому
"Every year we just build a bigger suburb to pay for the maintenance costs of all of our previous suburbs, _thus solving the problem once and for all!"_ "But..." *"ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!"*
@marcosorduno9203
@marcosorduno9203 3 роки тому
Futurama reference
@RunBayou
@RunBayou 2 роки тому
We need Futurama now more than ever
@fiddleriddlediddlediddle
@fiddleriddlediddlediddle Рік тому
The first things I associate with America are not baseball, apple pie or soul-crushing traffic. Instead I associate America with obesity, children pretending to be adults and the American dream, more specifically how it was snuffed out.
@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736
@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736 Рік тому
The American dream exists, the immigrants are living it.
@medicmule
@medicmule Рік тому
I work in a community that is far below the poverty line and possesses the largest trailer park in Indiana. Personally, I think the roads were more drivable before the state gave the county a multi-million dollar grant to improve the roads in 1996... Dirt and gravel roads are more drivable than crumbling asphalt without the funding to repair it.
@julialopez-herrera9410
@julialopez-herrera9410 3 роки тому
In the Netherlands we also eat a lot of apple pie, I didn't even know it was considered American lol
@fndngnvrlnd
@fndngnvrlnd 3 роки тому
That's because America doesn't stand for any other values 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@NickRoman
@NickRoman 3 роки тому
the saying is "as American as apple pie" so I guess we really like our pie
@lying_lynx
@lying_lynx 3 роки тому
Because ours is different and it was also brought over by your immigrants that your government illegally brought over here
@iwantiedema33
@iwantiedema33 3 роки тому
@@lying_lynx hey we gave you apple pie. So be happy 😜
@taekatanahu635
@taekatanahu635 3 роки тому
In my mind the most American food are hamburgers, followed by barbecue, hot dogs, milkshakes, cornflakes, orange juice and Coca-Cola.
@bobocaterpillar3697
@bobocaterpillar3697 3 роки тому
roads DONT last 25 years! I have literally WATCHED a developer pave asphalt right on top of DIRT! what does he care? once they turn it over to the city - ITS YOUR PROBLEM!!!
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 3 роки тому
By the books it should be re-surfaced every 10-15 years. Maybe in dry southern states it can be 25y, but in north with frost, rain, salt the surface can degrade fast.
@Amin.Ashraf
@Amin.Ashraf 3 роки тому
@@Rainaman- I think you might have missed the point there. While weather and temperature can accelerate the degradation of the road surface. Therefore, resurfacing interval. The amount of traffic also play a role. The weight of every vehicle that use it. Different dirt can hold different amounts of load.
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 3 роки тому
@@Amin.Ashraf "different dirt" roads are not built on dirt lmao. It is gravel and sand at frost level that holds it.
@Amin.Ashraf
@Amin.Ashraf 3 роки тому
@@Rainaman- right, I forgot to put quotation on dirt. As long as you get what I mean, it's fine.
@codyherring3895
@codyherring3895 3 роки тому
@@Rainaman- engineered dirt can hold a surprising amount of load.
@randombassguy5780
@randombassguy5780 2 роки тому
I remember reading a reasearch paper that basically concluded that for future suburbs you will get the worst of both worlds. That is the crowd and crime of the city because of population density and the boredom of the suburbs as sprawling takes you far from entertainment districts.
@MikkelMadsen
@MikkelMadsen 2 роки тому
Interesting video. And a small observation about "USA-vs-Denmark"; when you (rather seldom) see one of those huge american SUVs or pickup trucks on the streets here, they simply seem out of place, size-wise. Like they were not really built for foreign markets, exept maybe Canada, Australia and the Gulf states.
@bruhbutwhytho2301
@bruhbutwhytho2301 Рік тому
I mean they are good in rural areas, I see them all the time in Latin America but yeah most of the time they don't really work well in cities.
@ScottTooley
@ScottTooley Рік тому
Funny story (well, at least to me): I lived in the UK for nearly 8 years, working for the US government on a military base. Because of this, we also were able to import American cars. My wife and I had a 4-cyl Ford Escape at the time. We regularly would get comments from Brits on our "big american car", even though it was literally the same size as the Ford Kuga (which was seen as sensible). Even had it said once when I was parked next to a much larger Range Rover.
@Basta11
@Basta11 2 роки тому
This explains so much. It really feels like America is in decline and why being a millennial feels like you're getting screwed. It explains why many Rust belt and North Eastern cities look so dilapidated, neighborhoods in terrible shape, population decline, and no money to fix it. California is so expensive, rents and taxes are ridiculous, but what you get in services are hardly worth it. California is nearing at the end of its cycle. Florida, Texas, Nevada, and Idaho are booming with low taxes because they're in the early stages of this Ponzi scheme.
@rjacobherman
@rjacobherman 2 роки тому
The North East and Rust belt have taxed residents into submission to pay for insane programs. Social programs and wasteful spending will kill anything.
@godw1ll99
@godw1ll99 2 роки тому
florida is in the early stages? lol thats a good one...
@ShawnJonesHellion
@ShawnJonesHellion 2 роки тому
Florida is part of cuba an I can assume since the Republicans don't see that but do say Nevada an Texas *is* becoming part of another nation; that its worse there
@ShawnJonesHellion
@ShawnJonesHellion 2 роки тому
@@rjacobherman The west coast is herion needles an feces everywhere; just describing the landscape. An every building has a needle deposit box. Grocery stores, churches, etc
@rjacobherman
@rjacobherman 2 роки тому
@@ShawnJonesHellion I have been there. Its a 3rd world country
@timothyblazer1749
@timothyblazer1749 2 роки тому
The other issue is how the streets are built..aka, super cheaply. Germany builds roads that have very small maintenance costs over time. This isn't difficult..you use better process and materials designed to last 50 years without maintenance. I mean...there are Roman roads which are still usable. It is perfectly feasible to build roads that can last hundreds of years.
@jacobsmithjr
@jacobsmithjr 2 роки тому
That's because all of their roads are concrete 8 inches thick
@allykid4720
@allykid4720 2 роки тому
Feasible but not so profitable for governor's nephew, who is also a developer, by coincidence.
@Cujo2447
@Cujo2447 2 роки тому
You forget one VERY important thing: many of Europe's roads are built on top of old Roman roads, and the other thing you're forgetting is that suburban sprawl *just doesn't happen* on the level that it happens here in America. You're not even comparing Apples to Oranges; you're comparing Apples to Almonds while forgetting massive leaps in timelines are happening.
@noaei
@noaei 2 роки тому
I want to agree on principle, but not all roads lead to Rome. In my shithole, roads are terrible because I live in a swamp. It's also terrible because your most pertinent point is correct: my local government doesn't envision roads that last forever, much less for a few years.
@arcticbeak
@arcticbeak 2 роки тому
@@jacobsmithjr You mean american, roman or german streets?
@BlowAway11
@BlowAway11 2 роки тому
Amazing dude! Great video, and your easy-to-follow references and citation is much appreciated!
@saucedopro
@saucedopro 2 роки тому
Not sure why this video and the Houston video showed up on my home page but I’m glad I did. Learned a lot in these two videos.
@SlicedSlappy
@SlicedSlappy 2 роки тому
“So they paved paradise and put up a parking lot..”
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 2 роки тому
I swear I heard that as lyrics in a song a few years back...
@kilikfanof2mrow
@kilikfanof2mrow 2 роки тому
Don't it always seem to go like that
@Aggressiphyst
@Aggressiphyst 2 роки тому
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley nah, it's an updated paraphrased adage from when they tore down 'THE' original enchanted forest to build the colosseum in Rome. The name literally translated to enchanted forest more or less. It was something like mystical arborium or whatever. Anyway, can you beleive they had the nerve to save one tree as an homage no less. A reminder of how beautiful it WAS. Like that makes it okay. That's apparently the origin story of ygdrasil too. Shit's fucked up man. Real fucked up... Guess it just goes to show: You dont know what you've got, till it's gone.
@fiascocam
@fiascocam 2 роки тому
@@kilikfanof2mrow You don't know what you got until its gone.
@matthewr2878
@matthewr2878 2 роки тому
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley you did. Big Yellow Taxi-Joni Mitchell
@yohannessulistyo4025
@yohannessulistyo4025 2 роки тому
I used to think that old buildings in European cities are old... but I couldn't be more wrong. The facade are old, centuries old, the inside however, are air-conditioned, cellular network, wi-fi, fire alarm, adjustable LED lights, smart building systems... it makes them very desireable. These old European city buildings can be repurposed for anything. In Rome, I encountered a Carrefour express supermarket build into an old semi building-part cave systems. The roof are still rough patch of cave rocks, probably dating back to Roman empire era. It is fascinating. Next to it is a trendy Italian cafe. Bright Sun Films has a large compilations of video exploring abandoned American malls and suburban mega store buildings that is practically useless after being abandoned. That unique Taco building, the uniquely designed Toys-R-Us themed building facade might be affable for McDonald's or other business franchise looking for their own "branding" and that's the massive problem. Suburban decay is a blight and left a plainly visible mark, urban decay can heal and re-transform itself.
@ipodtouchfreak100
@ipodtouchfreak100 2 роки тому
As an American we like things shiny and new. Although I feel that desire is now fading with the younger generation more into repurposing and reusing to avoid creating waste
@PershingOfficial
@PershingOfficial 2 роки тому
@@jimmybaldbird3853 lol
@a-10thunderboltii24
@a-10thunderboltii24 2 роки тому
What is affable? The abandoned US mall?
@hildaovalle1455
@hildaovalle1455 2 роки тому
I have traveled to Europe since the 60s and also used to marvel over the beautiful old buildings however, then I re learned about the Marshall Act which reconstructed Europe. Many of the buildings were actually reconstructed as they were originally to keep the illusion of old Europe alive, so they were not as old as they seemed. One example is the parliament building in Budapest and the original construction plans, which were used to rebuild that building which in fact was bombarded during WWII.
@PURENT
@PURENT 2 роки тому
@@ipodtouchfreak100 Nah it's mostly cause the younger generation is too poor for things like new houses and new cars. Young people definitely purchase other goods brand new, they're just cheaper than cars or a house.
@alimanski7941
@alimanski7941 Рік тому
Not to mention, every other infrastructure cost increases superlinearly in relation to the area size of the city. Water lines and fire department are much easier to finance when the city is denser.
@jeffballer9437
@jeffballer9437 2 роки тому
Great video! It’s important to also note the corporate interests that profit from suburbia and could care less about Municipal, State, or Federal debt (they’ve successfully avoided their fair share of taxes for decades): Car Manufacturers, Car Insurers, Home Manufacturers, Home Insurers, Asphalt Manufacturers, Road Sign/Marker Makers, Street Light Makers, etc. These companies aren’t playing in a free market. They are more than willing to induce more demand (more suburbs) by Lobbying and Advertising their product down our throats. As is the case with so many painful, systemic problems efficiency (free market solution) and the social good does not align with profits. That’s why we pay $70,000/yr. per prisoner instead of investing in public education, parks, drug rehabilitation, vocation schools, etc. Private prisons and a whole bunch of prison suppliers would lose their profits
@8stormy5
@8stormy5 Рік тому
When the way we do things doesn't make sense, follow the money to see why...
@bruh-so8vp
@bruh-so8vp Рік тому
a free market solution would cut the government out of the picutre, and there'd be no government to lobby or take advantage of. If cities couldn't grow sparsely in a free market, then they'd just grow compact if that's the ideal layout
@leandrog2785
@leandrog2785 Рік тому
The concept of private prisons is ridiculous. Give huge companies with a lot of money a lot of incentive to increase crime, criminalize things which shouldn't be a crime (drug use), keep people in prison for longer, maintain a fucked up prison culture so that when they get out they stay in the crime life and end up convicted again, etc
@audreycrowe1780
@audreycrowe1780 2 роки тому
Cities tend to cut their own throat when they are forced to give tax incentives just so corporate companies will open shop in their communities.
@vgrepairs
@vgrepairs 2 роки тому
@@AhhhhMyLeg amazon and tesla end up costing cities money in the long run rather than producing. Increased strain on infrastructure and demands for cities provide extra services or else "they'll pack up and leave".
@vgrepairs
@vgrepairs 2 роки тому
@@AhhhhMyLeg damn that's a much different situation than in my city of 4 million where I sit in traffic for 1.5 hours each day. Suburbs, parking lots, crime, and traffic.
@nicmainville9954
@nicmainville9954 2 роки тому
@@AhhhhMyLeg big business tends to bring the low wages with them, making it even more difficult for the working class to be the economic driving force necessary for a modern world.
@nicmainville9954
@nicmainville9954 2 роки тому
@@AhhhhMyLeg if that were true, Worker Unions would not have been necessary for wage bargaining or worker protections.
@nicmainville9954
@nicmainville9954 2 роки тому
@@AhhhhMyLeg no they haven’t, wages have only risen due to people leaving for unionized jobs or threatening to unionize their current jobs, prior to unionization the “precious” big businesses were basically enslaving workers by paying them in a currency only accepted at the company store.
@Leispada
@Leispada 2 роки тому
Ah yes. I remember playing Sim City as a kid, not knowing how to play. My towns ended up just like these examples with roads straight up disappearing
@olafspetzki
@olafspetzki Рік тому
Here in Germany almost every village has small employment zones in the periphery and businesses along the main roads and their business taxes go to the village. That way it seems to work just fine.
@TheJanstyler
@TheJanstyler Рік тому
I don't understand the appeal behind american style suburban living anyway. I understand that owning your own property is awesome and all, but not this way. EVERYTHING looks the same in suburban america. It's honestly almost uncanny valley territory for me. Just imagining myself walking down a street like this at night and seeing 200 of the almost exact same house makes me feel weird.
@Atlene
@Atlene 3 роки тому
can we get a video of comparing north america "mindset" vs dutch "mindset" when it comes to this? roads/building houses . i mean this is super interesting and would like to hear your toughts about our dutch "problem" ( housing problem )
@MrBlueBurd0451
@MrBlueBurd0451 3 роки тому
Best solution to the housing problem here? Stop building row houses (riijtjeshuizen) and start building apartment buildings again.
@stefangrobbink7760
@stefangrobbink7760 3 роки тому
@@TurboEncabulator188 while most "nature" in the Netherlands has essentially been built, I do agree with your point that we should make efficient use of the limited space the country has. We don't want to turn it into one big city after all.
@GulliNL
@GulliNL 3 роки тому
@@TurboEncabulator188 problem with highrise in the Netherlands is mainly the composition of our soil. In most areas our soil is polder or veengrond which has a lot of water in it. That makes for a terrible base to build skyscrapers on because they have lots of weight on a relatively small footprint.
@tony199120
@tony199120 3 роки тому
60s/70s galerijflat habitant here, please dont dress them up a bit, they did that here, living hasnt inproved, but the cost of living is increased from a total of 450 euro to 690 euro a month, and i'm in the ''social'' section. Government needs to build durable modern galerijflatten, its great for ''sociale huurwoningen'' but the current privatised owners of that market will never do that because they want profit each year, so renovation & building cant cost a lot. Dutch politics have to effectively ''socialize'' the social market again but with them spending so much on saving the climate and other invisible problems like cow farts i dont see that happening anytime soon, they will just build more rijtjeshuizen tot de weilanden en parken op zijn. because thats profitable.
@moosesandmeese969
@moosesandmeese969 3 роки тому
@@TurboEncabulator188 Building higher isn't necessary for sustaining housing. 4-6 floor buildings are just fine, it's just that there needs to be more of them. Vienna has almost no high rise buildings but the cost of living there is considerably cheaper than Amsterdam at around 2.5 times the population
@Yano5151
@Yano5151 3 роки тому
Seeing the signage for a “Flaming Hot Cheetos Burrito” is what did it to me
@KleineJoop
@KleineJoop 3 роки тому
@Steve Acho You get what you pay for, i doubt the food is healthy if it's that cheap. Processed, added sugar... But it's not like you have a choice, capitalism fucks everything in our lives if left uncontrolled enough like in the US. The food, housig, work, enviroment, everything degraded and minimal maintainance and investment because profit for the rich few comes first, as they're the major shareholders and wealthy people who have the power.
@ThisisFerrariKhan
@ThisisFerrariKhan 2 роки тому
Fire Hot Cheetos sandwiches? Yeah, that’s that classic good ol’ hood eating we did growing up as a kid in the Southeastern US states 😂
@backcountry8405
@backcountry8405 Рік тому
Wow this very informative thank you
@robwilson7530
@robwilson7530 2 роки тому
My employer going permanently remote lead to my exodus from the city. I now live in an unincorporated community in a mostly agricultural county. I have no desire to go back to living in an overpriced 500 square foot shit box with crime outside my window every night, awful public schools, traffic, congestion, etc. Though I am hardly the only person in the world with an all remote gig. This little town of 800 that probably has not had significant outside investment in decades now has a sign for a proposed subdivision off the highway they plan to break ground on. Very disheartening to say the least.
@dissuxx7422
@dissuxx7422 3 роки тому
All this asphalt/concrete everywhere is so ugly as well.
@ingmarsteenbergen2619
@ingmarsteenbergen2619 3 роки тому
if you want to see smooth, fresh (Darker black) Asphalt (we use less concrete), you should visit the Netherlands. We do pay higher bills, but when it has rained and frozen, our streets are so smooth we can ice skate on them!
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 3 роки тому
Bad thing is concrete roads are cheaper and last longer.
@Triggernlfrl
@Triggernlfrl 3 роки тому
@@ingmarsteenbergen2619 Dutch asfalt roads are ugly to and need also to go just like the rest of the system gartbadge.
@theuglykwan
@theuglykwan 3 роки тому
I see those smooth concrete driveways in the suburban american homes and think they look amazing.
@chahineyalla4838
@chahineyalla4838 3 роки тому
It's not just ugly, it's an environmental catastrophe.
@westoncurnow4475
@westoncurnow4475 3 роки тому
I love all of the stock footage of Kansas City. As a citizen of Kansas City, I can say that it really is much worse on a bike. Heaven forbid you try and actually walk!
@petrfedor1851
@petrfedor1851 3 роки тому
Gues go to work on biky is not an option there.
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 3 роки тому
I guess road bikes are not as popular in us then
@mattao313
@mattao313 2 роки тому
@@petrfedor1851 hell no most jobs are far out anyway. 20min in cars
@petrfedor1851
@petrfedor1851 2 роки тому
@@mattao313 Half of that time in trafic jam. Bikes can often take shorter road. Especialy in city.
@mattao313
@mattao313 2 роки тому
@@petrfedor1851 nope 20min is traffic free on the highway
@danguillou713
@danguillou713 2 роки тому
Clear, specific, coherent about suburbias built in dependency on eternal growth and eternally growing debt. Funny thing is, it’s not just suburbia. It’s the entire economy.
@namenamename390
@namenamename390 2 роки тому
I love that there are three types of comments here: People agreeing with the video, complaining about the awfulness of suburbs People disagreeing with the video, saying suburbs are actually good People saying Taco John's is good
@threeriversforge1997
@threeriversforge1997 2 роки тому
What most watching won't realize is that it goes a lot deeper than just the basic ponzi scheme talked about here. It's one thing to say "it happened after WW2" and quite another to actually name names and look at the connections and motivations of those who led the charge.
@dumdiversaspapalbull1452
@dumdiversaspapalbull1452 2 роки тому
This makes so much sense. In my city, all of the credible shopping areas, restaurants, and malls are in the suburbs. They seem to be well off, but they are struggling just like the rest of us. They opened a new mall 10 years ago, but they built the newer 3 miles down the same street. It takes all of 7 to 10 years for the original mall to be filled with Dollar Trees, antique stores, and the newest hair salon. None of which revenue goes into the main city.
@Zeromaus
@Zeromaus Рік тому
The solution is to stop worrying about 'revenue into the main city'. Private industries should be allowed to thrive regardless of how the government is doing. Believe it or not, we'd do just fine if the government stopped maintaining infrastructure and handed it off to private industry.
@Slugbunny
@Slugbunny 2 роки тому
You know, this explains a lot about why my creations kept failing in management games where you have to balance spending with profit and public opinion. 😅
@QuilloManar
@QuilloManar 2 роки тому
Ironic how the country that’s “built for the car,” has the worst roads and the worst drivers. 🤔
@dallashill23
@dallashill23 2 роки тому
Especially those Oregon drivers 🤮
@dylanwelch2269
@dylanwelch2269 2 роки тому
The US for the most part has well-maintained roads.
@miguelena40
@miguelena40 Рік тому
@@dallashill23 I am an airport driver and I heard Oregon ,vegas, texas, LA, new york and I work in fort lauderdale , looks like is in the whole country Americans don't know how to drive .
@uraswami8077
@uraswami8077 Рік тому
Spoken by someone that apparently has not been on streets in many other countries to see how awful the traffic and drivers are around the world. I swear, in many places, they don’t really drive, they just sort of aim their cars and motorcycles in the direction of their destinations and hope nothing gets in the way.
@malachiwhite356
@malachiwhite356 Рік тому
Ever been to Thailand, China, Mexico, Italy, Greece, Spain, India, . . . I guess not.
@damianmcdonagh7908
@damianmcdonagh7908 2 роки тому
Fascinating video, I'm so glad I left New York and returned to the west of Ireland 🇮🇪 . Healthier food, easier lifestyle and astounding scenery.
@ramone.1021
@ramone.1021 2 роки тому
NYC is worse then ever now !
@trilliamc5185
@trilliamc5185 2 роки тому
Plus the lovely Irish women of Ireland are the best women to be around with in the world 👌🏼
@AUniqueHandleName444
@AUniqueHandleName444 2 роки тому
Well....you lived in new york lol. What's not even America, really.
@artemiscool67
@artemiscool67 2 роки тому
Upstate, downstate (NYC)? That's such a broad statement it really does sound like you just didn't make the right moves there....Healthy food and scenery are choices IMO
@baltimorejae7397
@baltimorejae7397 2 роки тому
@@artemiscool67 Born in Baltimore lived in Brooklyn for 10 years. Now I live in Houston. NYC is the greatest city on earth.
@markpannekeet
@markpannekeet 3 роки тому
I read Strong Towns: A bottom-up revolution to build American prosperity after one of your previous videos. I now see that Strong Towns is also one of your Train patreons, so it seems like there is some mutualistic symbiosis going on there ;) I really enjoyed this video and I feel like it did a great job of explaining the American suburban ponzi problem,
@NotJustBikes
@NotJustBikes 3 роки тому
Yes, Strong Towns came in as a patron *just* as I was finalizing the Patreon graphic for this video. It is a bit weird as it makes it look like they sponsored this video, but of course they didn't: they've just found my content (and not just the Strong Towns videos) good at getting out their message. I've been a big fan of Strong Towns for a long time, and I've been promoting them on reddit for at least 6 years already. I'm just glad that I have a platform here to share their content as well, because I think it's really important. You can't make a city truly great if it's financially insolvent.
@Maussiegamer
@Maussiegamer 3 роки тому
how did you comment 4 days ago the video is 19 minutes old
@matthieuraynaud580
@matthieuraynaud580 3 роки тому
@@Maussiegamer I think the video is released earlier for patrons
@Maussiegamer
@Maussiegamer 3 роки тому
@@matthieuraynaud580 ok so you are saying that if i start a communiet revolution i would be able to see not just bikes videos earlier? im in
@matthieuraynaud580
@matthieuraynaud580 3 роки тому
@@Maussiegamer Sorry I wasn't clear enough. "Patrons" are what we usually call supporters on Patreon, the funding platform. Unless you were joking xD
@MisakaMikotoDesu
@MisakaMikotoDesu 2 роки тому
Took me 10 minutes to walk to the store in Norway. It takes me 10 minutes to drive to the store in America. One is healthy and the other is a massive financial liability. Sigh...
@MisakaMikotoDesu
@MisakaMikotoDesu 2 роки тому
@@mattolson7037 It loses value over time, needs maintence, has multiple registration fees, and often requires you to have insurance. It's definitely a liability to own an automobile.
@FourElemental
@FourElemental 2 роки тому
@@mattolson7037 it's not a freedom if you have no choice but to buy a car, just to survive.
@FourElemental
@FourElemental 2 роки тому
@@mattolson7037 where can I go with a car in this country, besides being stuck in traffic on government subsidized roads? Restricted to the whims of the infrastructure on how long I have to wait for me to get pass traffic. If there were less cars on the road, there'll be more freedom for those who want cars. Yet since everyone needs cars to survive in American, you can't have the freedom of traveling across the country without getting through hours of traffic.
@hrnguy500
@hrnguy500 Рік тому
found out that some friends, who live in country (outside a big city) were charged $20k + for the construction/pavement of the road running by their property. It was an unpaved county road. Everyone on that country road HAD to pay ridiculous amounts of money to cover the cost of building the road and that $$ only covered a fraction of the road. The road was connecting a small town to the larger sprawling city. They have been living outside of the traditional city model for 25+ years and they still got screwed over!
@chidenisee
@chidenisee 3 роки тому
I live in Charleston SC and we just moved to the suburbs 4 years ago in March. I hate it so much. The traffic is horrible. You have to drive everywhere. It’s so boring. No bus system comes this far. And they are building more of them and our main road is a 2 lane highway🤦🏾‍♀️. I’m already planning my move in 1 to 2 years.
@3of11
@3of11 3 роки тому
The urban core of pre-WWII Charleston looks like a rather fine place to live, walkable/bikeable. I've semi considered moving there. Brings up another good point made by strongtowns, most Americans see "traditional city development" as a tourist attraction not "how things should be done" (like historic Charleston, historic St. Augistine, the French Quarter, etc)
@kyriacosstavrinides893
@kyriacosstavrinides893 3 роки тому
@Safwaan It's not suburbs per se that are the bad thing and not all suburbs are exactly alike, but what is disliked is the specific sprawling design and strict separation of uses that gives many such suburbs a negative feel to a lot of people.
@chrisfarmer6893
@chrisfarmer6893 3 роки тому
@@3of11 yes, the old town of Charleston is great. Very walkable and would be an awesome place to live. Some parts are bike-unfriendly due to the very bumpy cobblestones! But once you know which streets you can avoid them. Also the drivers tend to be very patient, there are always slow-moving vehicles around (like horse and carriage tours) so drivers don't expect to get anywhere in a hurry! Unfortunately that part of town is very expensive to live in. You can find more affordable housing outside the old downtown but then you lose a lot of the walkability.
@hardrays
@hardrays 3 роки тому
@Safwaan illinois has great roads. you know that?missouri sucks ohio is terrible. indiana is ok but getting ragged around the edges. i dont know a state that knows how to patch roads as seamlessly as illinois.
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 3 роки тому
Pretty much the case everywhere I see. I moved to a small rural town that didn’t even have a police department. Now people found out about the cheap houses here, and immediately there’s so much traffic here. Our roads were not made to handle all this new traffic.
@rayschoch5882
@rayschoch5882 2 роки тому
When I became a citizen planning commissioner, one of the truisms I learned fairly quickly was that suburban residential development NEVER pays for itself (taxed on a fraction of actual value). Another problem that the Chamber of Commerce always fails to mention because it's related to the ever-increasing debt of the municipality in question is that the higher tax rates on commercial and industrial development are also based on a fraction of actual value, and that new commercial and industrial development is often partially financed through tax breaks, which further reduce municipal revenue. "Tax incentives" offered to businesses are essentially bribes, paid to the business in question by the city, and paid for by the other residents of the city.
@johnnyistoc5051
@johnnyistoc5051 2 роки тому
What do you mean taxed on a fraction of actual value? I always found the city tax assessor to value property much higher than what the market calls for. What developments pay for themselves in your experience? I also dont understand how a city trying to secure buisnesses by offering lower tax rates hurts if sales tax and additional income from workers offsets it. If you look at Texas and California as examples you can see how at the state level at least Texas is doing much better at the moment. Why dont we just privatize education and have property taxes go solely into infastructure.
@rayschoch5882
@rayschoch5882 2 роки тому
@@johnnyistoc5051 Your city assessor might err on the side of higher value, and thus higher taxes, but if so, your city is very much the exception. The most recent assessment for my house was about 55% of what realtors are telling me it's worth. "House flippers" routinely offer far more than the city-assessed value, and they intend to put a little money into it and make a nice profit on the resale. Undervaluing residential real estate has been the standard practice in each of the three metro areas I've lived in over the past 75 years. Why? Because NO ONE likes paying taxes. We all (including businesses) want the mythical "free lunch" of streets that don't cost anything, schools that are free, clean water we don't have to pay for, parks at no cost to ourselves, etc. Commercial development comes much closer to paying its own way - one of the primary reasons why cities fall over themselves trying to attract commercial businesses, and perhaps THE primary reason why suburbs fight tooth-and-nail to have the latest/newest shopping area in THEIR suburb rather than the neighboring one. Alas, too often, the same suburb will shoot itself in the foot by offering tax breaks to the developer in the hope that, over the long term, taxes collected will be far more than taxes given up. That's a significant gamble that doesn't always work to the benefit of the city. Even without tax breaks, relying on sales taxes can become catastrophic if/when the economy goes south and people stop spending, as nearly happened in the pandemic. Privatizing education puts us back to the days of the country's founding, when the only people with an education were the relatively wealthy who could afford to hire teachers/tutors. Everyone else largely remained ignorant and illiterate. Good luck maintaining a technological society on that basis…
@bondjames652
@bondjames652 2 роки тому
Anyone ever calculate what fraction of inefficiencies are responsible for the high costs of maintaining infrastructure. You don't have an unlimited amount of money to waste as a city. It wouldn't matter how much they get it will never be enough because in most cases they are incompetent idiots.
@johnnyistoc5051
@johnnyistoc5051 2 роки тому
@@rayschoch5882 Back in the day many children attended Catholic schools which were very cheap. I am aware of 2 private religious schools around a 15 mile radius of where I live that costs around 5000 a year to attend. It's not cheap but when you consider property taxes in my area are around 6 to 9 thousand it makes you wonder why you cant opt out of public education and simply deduct whatever private tuition would be from property taxes. There could still be public schools but it would give parents more choice. The current system as it is, is doing a very poor job of educating children for today's technical society.
@truckdriver8416
@truckdriver8416 2 роки тому
@@bondjames652 in the South before the Civil War the people living here wer some of the most educated people on planet Earth and there were no Public Schools. It takes very little money to educate someone correctly. The government forces the parent to put their children in school or go to prison that should be your first clue. Them the government schools poison the children's mine with a bunch of crap and that takes a lot of money to do.
@marccarp6034
@marccarp6034 2 роки тому
Great video this is extremely interesting information.... but I have to ask - how are cities any different?
@mrsmucha
@mrsmucha 2 роки тому
Thank you for all your videos. They are truly eye opening.
@hudson2441
@hudson2441 2 роки тому
I grew up in a suburb of Chicago that wasn’t expensive when I was a kid but got gentrification within the last 20 or so years. But it was always very walkable. Seems like a lot of the older suburbs that developed along the railroad lines are that way. People all over town walk or bike to the train and are downtown in 20 minutes or so. You could live without a car. Property taxes all over Illinois are insane. But because of gentrification I couldn’t afford to live in the town I grew up in. Moved to a modern sub-division ex-urb semi-rural. It’s quiet. Got a house twice the size of the house I grew up in for half the price. The new suburbs are growing along the interstate rather than the railroad. Can’t walk anywhere in a short time. But with remote work and door delivery it’s kind of irrelevant and I’ve rarely gone back to the city for anything. I got used to it. But give it 10 years it might get congested out here too. The problem is AFFORDABLE HOUSING. That pushes people out of cities even if they want to live somewhere walkable. Doesn’t Matter how you design it if working people can’t afford it.
@derekrichards2859
@derekrichards2859 2 роки тому
Agenda/ideal driven people always create new problems with their solutions... to which they'll be there with NEW solutions... that then beget new problems and so forth. For example, their plan to push people back to urban areas will result in rapidly increasing housing costs, which they'll then subsidize... that subsidization will then increase taxes and/or debt and reduce homeownership... which they'll then have an expensive program to address... which will result in higher taxes... which will eventually result in people at the higher end of the income scale and their businesses fleeing to lower tax suburbs (or states)... which will result in reduced tax revenue and blight... which the people who made this video will then blame on capitalists and people who want a better life rather than bloated, inefficient government, high taxes and the results of their own crappy and short-sighted plans.
@Carandini
@Carandini 2 роки тому
@@derekrichards2859 Worse, as you see with college in the US, subsidies raise the cost because these crooked parties figure they can charge even more than any reasonable, non-subsidized market would allow.
@cabron247
@cabron247 2 роки тому
You mean property taxes around Chicagoland area... because southern Illinois has low property taxes. But why move there? Right? Lol
@hudson2441
@hudson2441 2 роки тому
@@cabron247 the only thing wrong with southern IL is lack of jobs. But also when population increases the taxes get raised to put in infrastructure that people want that wasn’t there before. Remote working might allow more people to live out there though.
@derekrichards2859
@derekrichards2859 2 роки тому
Good points. I think remote working is going to change this whole debate. People will be able to choose to live further from big cities, but not have to commute back to them for work, reducing the strain on infrastructure.
@supersasquatch
@supersasquatch 3 роки тому
"and the same goes for Canada too" - thank you for not leaving us out, thank you
@abdisaniini
@abdisaniini 3 роки тому
Canada is just America with Healthcare lol
@gromm93
@gromm93 3 роки тому
Dude. He's Canadian. That's why he noticed at all.
@supersasquatch
@supersasquatch 3 роки тому
@@gromm93 I realized it later lol Canada maintains it's boring out of the news status then.
@jonpaul3868
@jonpaul3868 3 роки тому
Mexico: sad noises.
@whypopmusicsucks0977
@whypopmusicsucks0977 3 роки тому
Canada is better than America.
@marqitvalyoue9501
@marqitvalyoue9501 Рік тому
There are so many sub-divisions popping up like weeds in a field in suburbia Michigan, but most of them are only half occupied or completely empty.
@jacklocco
@jacklocco Рік тому
Much love from Cleveland for that drone shot of downtown 🙏
@Wopayne
@Wopayne 3 роки тому
Most of Rome, Italy is small neighborhoods that have pretty much all you need within a short walk. A backpack is handy. If for some reason you need something from farther away a cheap cab ride gets it done.
@Peter_Schiavo
@Peter_Schiavo 2 роки тому
Rome is stagnant and dirty and corrupt. And you can't build in any case because the Kingdom, Republic, or Empire are under every shovel-full of dirt.
@jamesmackes4531
@jamesmackes4531 2 роки тому
@@Peter_Schiavo And America isn't? And good, no grubby people to buy up the land and put useless shit there.
@lukasrojko5455
@lukasrojko5455 2 роки тому
I love driving.
@2204JCM
@2204JCM 2 роки тому
@@lukasrojko5455 I doubt you’d love it in places where there is grid lock.
@SamaRazzor
@SamaRazzor 2 роки тому
Cheap cab @ Italy? You must be kidding.
@999benhonda
@999benhonda 2 роки тому
I happen to live in a subdivision, where the developer went to jail shortly after completing the subdivision...except, he never turned the roads over to the state. By the time homeowners realized there was a problem, the state told them that the roads had to be brought up to code before the state would take them over. Just 1 road in the subdivision, about 3/4 of a mile, needed $40k in repairs before the state would take it. And while some in the neighborhood would like to try and solve this issue, close to half the homes are rented out...and obviously they are not about to sink extra money into a place they may not live in for more than a few years. To top it all off, the state has even admitted that if they took over the roads, property taxes would be raised...but no road works would be done for several years, because the state doesn't have the money for it!
@ghostlyhousehorrors
@ghostlyhousehorrors 2 роки тому
absolutely brilliant. (this is sarcasm)
@mrsmucha
@mrsmucha 2 роки тому
I'll bet this happens a lot more than anyone knows.
@munequa81
@munequa81 2 роки тому
Wow
@blakksheep736
@blakksheep736 2 роки тому
Smells like pain.
@FranFerioli
@FranFerioli Рік тому
But a suburb with no public transport and nothing but identical houses keeps at distance all the **ethnicity** out there (#Sarcasm).
@deu8894
@deu8894 2 роки тому
Just subscribed. Very interesting and insightful
@Jakromha
@Jakromha 3 роки тому
Noone outside of America associates apple pie with America.
@NotJustBikes
@NotJustBikes 3 роки тому
Yep, that's absolutely true. But Americans have a saying, "As American as apple pie." Even though Apple pie is Dutch.
@rebeccaalbrecht771
@rebeccaalbrecht771 3 роки тому
@@NotJustBikes However, Dutch apple pie is not like American apple pie. At the risk of offending Dutchies.,not only do I prefer American apple pie, I dislike Dutch apple pie. (Ducks as chairs/ pie are thrown my way) /:
@tmcprod
@tmcprod 3 роки тому
@@NotJustBikes lol
@arnoldwardenaar127
@arnoldwardenaar127 3 роки тому
@@rebeccaalbrecht771 not throwing anything... You can't question tastes
@FeedsNoSliesMusic
@FeedsNoSliesMusic 3 роки тому
It's funny because both apples and pies are associated with English cultures but not apple pies. No justice.
@renepro6964
@renepro6964 3 роки тому
Your intro is so short i can't even skip it, i like that.
@GuyGGormanandtheGMen
@GuyGGormanandtheGMen Рік тому
I love your channel! (I too am a recent immigrant to NL.) I agree with you on just about everything you say! In fact I think that many of the societal problems we see in the U.S. are due to the auto-centric, suburban/exurban sprawl that pervades there. One small suggestion: you make small comments that can be interpreted as disparaging. "Fake London" (maybe it's an endearing term--dunno), "Imperial units are stupid," etc. Potential converts can be very sensitive to small perceived slights. You want them to stay focused on your very valuable message.
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