Americans need cars because sprawl and lack of political will made public transportation inaccessible outside big cities but people hate the shady practices that dealerships engage in with customers. This was too long and those two titles convey this message a lot better.

@@LouisSubearth Unless you live in NYC or San Francisco and you never need to go anywhere else outside your metro area, then Americans need cars to travel. Cars are absolutely essential when major cities are far apart, as well as in a country the size, geography of the U.S. Beyond situations where certain people stay in a metro area and never go anywhere else, it is untenable to replace vehicles on a grand scale with public transportation. Just look at areas like Dallas or Houston. The metro areas are just too massive for public transportation to completely replace cars. There would have to be an enormous number of hubs in a dizzying web of routes, not to mention the construction costs and the time it would take. The United States is a large country, but its population density is not like Japan, China, and is much larger than European countries, that are very interconnected with each other with much smaller distances between population centers. For public transportation to replace cars to even make a dent in the number of cars, the U.S. would also need high speed rail. However, this has proven to be impractical and too expensive to implement. Just look at California: They have tried for many many years to implement high speed rail from San Francisco to Los Angeles. It sounds like a great idea on paper, but in reality, it was a disaster. California was awarded $13 BILLION between both federal and state bonds. However, after discovering how difficult the project was going to be, California tried to reduce the scale of the project, and only have a route that would be half of what the promised, and at the same time, provided later estimates that the project could actually cost as much as $77 BILLION. Because of this major underestimation of construction needs, costs, and time, the federal government had no choice to cancel the remaining $929 million. Keep in mind, that this was a project that was JUST for a route between San Francisco to Los Angeles. Just image the time and costs it would be for public transportation to and from major cities in different states, then try and image what it would take for just ONE route that could go to and from the West Coast and East Coast, and you can clearly see why public transportation is inaccessible outside big cities. Another major factor to consider is American values. Americans enjoy freedom, which also includes the freedom to hop into a car and drive anywhere you want, when you want, as well as travel to any of the numerous large state and national parks and wilderness areas. In Europe, there are numerous countries, but they are very small and close together. Major cities are also much closer together. All of this makes it much more conducive for public transportation in between major cities, whereas in countries like the U.S., it is completely different.

That's why cnbc is called as schrodinger News channel.

@@__Paul__ to be fair, you can normally travel between all of the european union countries (correct me if Im wrong) without getting stopped at the borders.

@@g_webb21 I wasn't implying that when in a European country that you are stuck. It is just that there are much larger highways, open roads, and much greater distances between major metro hubs in the U.S. than in Europe. Because of this, the U.S. is much more dependent on cars, and always will be. It also greatly enhances the sense of mobility and freedom while on the roads. All of it is also deeply embedded in American culture and values. Whereas, in Europe, you have much smaller, more narrow roads, more confinement of tight spaces, etc., but it also has the advantage of making public transportation options with buses, trains, high-speed rail, etc. much more feasible and practical. As a result, Europeans tend to be more focused on getting from point A to point B, whereas in the U.S., HOW you get from point A to point B is equally important.

Bought my first car back in 2015. It was a 2012 honda civic lx. Cash price was 12,700$. I financed it and Gave 4k down and somehow the total balanced due was around 20k. So the 12,700$ car ended up costing around 24k. I was 20 yrs old and was too excited to even pay attention to the details and didnt even understand how interest rate worked. NEVER AGAIN!!! please buy used and pay cash people! Dave Ramsey is right about cars.

@@GS.9093_Mart lol rip

@@GS.9093_Mart damn ur interest rate must’ve been 30%

@@GS.9093_Mart live and learn.

@@GS.9093_Mart Damn man....you almost paid the double.....they ripped you hard

I thought this was common sense

@@luccianoblock5127 common sense is learned

@@approx4ft yea that's about right

Incorrect, we ask you so we can know which inventory to show you that will fit your needs and wants.

Where are y’all buying cars

Bruh 🤣 “forever”

I’ll take it! 🤣

I'm sure hybrids rarely need gas if you never drive faster than 30 mph.

@@joemckim1183 all cars need less fuel if they drive less than 30 mph.

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"Don't be afraid to offend people " is a great piece of advice anywhere and anytime.

@@rext8949 unless you are in a fast food drive thru...

Why are they putting old car seats in a new one? Isn't that opposes to having a new one feeling.

@@fatihguner4041 "carseats" is what I call the removal safety seat that small children sit in a vehicle.

What the hell is reconditioned fee?

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Not the sales guys, but the manager who push the extra stuff. Then the finance guys who spin the finance stuff to someone who would just say, yea what the month payment and where do i sign so i can leave.

I avoided dealerships altogether and buy used from private sellers.

You’re so wrong lol you clearly haven’t been on both sides.

VW has the weirdest way to get a warranty I said forget it. They wanted me to pay $1,100 up front for a basic warranty and pay that much each year when I approached the dealership about it a couple years ago. What a joke. Yet new cars today come with longer warranties.

How many dealerships did you work for?

I had the same experience working at a dealer.

I don't believe you ever worked at a car dealership.

@@xavierkoolat6926 Get a life.

@@xavierkoolat6926 I'm telling you as a car salesman for 9 months. The video is unfortunately accurate. But you can blame a news station like a political news nut I guess.

Only today I found out American car dealers aren’t owned by the brand. I recently bought a luxury car in India and when we told them our budget, not once did they ask us to go above it. This is in India. You can even ask them to drive the cars you’re interested to your home. And once you book it, you get a new car from the factory

Only six hours? That’s a piece of cake. I actually try to make an entire day out of it. I made a sport out of it by saying,, “I’ll think about it”, “I respectfully disagree,” “I don’t understand these fees.”

I never bought a car from a dealer ship before.

@JNightlife Not true.

@UFB-NFW X Just do not give them your keys.

Which has nothing to do with the dealership network. Because Volkswagen won't sell Joe Shmo a new car directly in Germany, either. Not even at Autostadt (which it is actually called).

Yes but they do also have a dealership that’s only if you ask for that kind of experience but they do also have dealership so stop telling people that you can buy your vehicle directly from factory you still got to place your order through a Volkswagen dealership stupid get the info right

@@hectorcarcamo9681 what about the dealerships that’s are owned by the car company ? When you buy a Porsche in Zuffenhausen it is basically directly from the car company😅

@@Casskario and yes you are right but that’s only in Germany you can order and take delivery from the factory you can also buy a vehicle here in America and ask for European deliver but don’t make it sound like like we r the worst ( sales. People) from this industry Not all Sales people r the same

@@olfrygt Well yes but actually no. Every individual car brand here has show rooms for their cars and you can custom order...

Beautiful!!!

LMFAO YOU GOT RIPPED OFF IM SURE TELL ME HOW MUCH AT THE END WHEN YOU MAKE THAT PAYMENT YOU WILL BE PAYING TELL ME WHAT YEAR MODEL MILEAGE OFF THE RAV4? CARVANA IS AN OVERPRICED BS DEALER LIKE EVERY OTHER ONE OUT THERE !SO ILL WAIT FOR YOU TO TELL ME?

@@anijp9275 Yeah Carvana having the same car at 8k less than it’s supposed price sounds impossible. They are selling 10 year old Corollas for 16k.

Well said. Never give the upper hand away. Remember they need you, you really don't need them.

Leverage goes to he who has the least to lose in a deal

Damn, that bad.

@@Silver77cynbut then you worked 20y so that mean you wer one of them riping ppl off

@@addison2901 I’ve never worked at a dealership.

@@Silver77cyn not you the person from this mean comment

Well at least I wouldn't feel screwed over at dentist, well figurative speaking

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I hope you get over your fear for the dentist soon!

@🔴Warped🔴 lol awesome!!!

Enter a car dealership or enter a Hot girl! Choose wisely.

I have been bicycle commuting for over 20years; car-free for over 10years now. I estimate I save approximately $10K/year (give or take a couple K). My savings reflects this.

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Get a Tesla instead

I agree. I’m so fed up with it my plan is to either buy a new car at MSRP or buy private party cash. The used cars are always such a rip off. They offend have damage that was very poorly repaired that you don’t notice right away until the pain fades a bit. Private party cars usual are more obvious on repairs needed and a discount negotiated as a result.

Troy J I used to be like you, but I toasted my knees. I miss the independence and the daily challenge. Now I drive a Prius to try and keep the air clean as possible for you all. Cheers!

Or don’t buy a car you can’t afford to buy outright.

@@xiaoka I did financing for a year not because I needed it but because I wanted to get more credit history. That is the other bad thing here, you need to take financing out to get credit history. I paid it off in cash after the 12. payment reported.

​@@PascalGienger yeah I got a car loan for a car I had cash in hand for for this specific reason. moved to the US 10 years ago, and when you do that you have zero credit regardless what you had in your last country. I moved from the UK where I had an 800+ credit rating from Experian, but they didn't care about that in the US. so car loan and 3 deposit backed credit cards it was...

True BUT you dont need to take out a car to do it. @@PascalGienger

@@Princeof1000Enemies True, And it was also very annoying, always ask for an allowance letter from the bank just to visit Canada. All the time. Back in Europe I could ta kea financed car to all EU countries for a trip plus Switzerland and Norway...

"come on, you can afford that payment if we do this for 96 months!!" --sales manager

I would love to just order the car and have it show up like in Japan. I have bought three cars in my life and I have spent literally the entire day each time just sitting while the salesperson goes behind the desk to "talk to his manager." When he's really just in the back playing with his phone waiting for me to get annoyed so I will agree to his terms just to get out of there. It's a sleazy practice and to those who are unfamiliar with buying cars it may cost them a lot more then it needed to. My advice to people is give them your price, do NOT negotiate, and bring some headphones with you. Have them meet your price, if they really want to sell the car they'll give you your price. You will be there all day but you will get your price. Do not let the dealer talk you into buying anything except for the car itself. Thinking about it makes my blood boil.

The Ford “death wobble” brings a whole new meaning to Found On the Road Dead.

Inazarab You just walk. Go to a competitor. Let them call you.

ya im sure that happened

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Well they can’t give you close to what it is worth but you also have the choice to sell it yourself

Brian Matzen they shouldn’t call it “fair market value” of then bc that it is not. Kbb in itself is a sham

That's a private selling price....dealerships aren't private parties. They always sell it it to you for way less than private party because they then have to resell it to somebody else. They need to make profit.

Those are all fine answers. But guess what? I feel no better and I still hate dealerships.

Read the room

well you're lucky to have good taste in cars.

how many miles does your subie have now?

I'm happy with my 1998 Lexus GS 400 V8 with 232000 miles. No rust, leaks or rips on the seats and it still ride flawless better than any new car. I take care of the maintenance when needed and it takes care of me.

@@RiqqJ ? Who hurt you

Omg

This is not Kias fault, blame the dealer

Well keeping it 100, they already had margin where they ripped you off from somewhere else - at least as compared to what someone else was able to talk them down on. With that margin, they accepted the $400 cut here.

Shrewd Negotiation skills: 100

You didn't pay it now, but the maintenance on your car could suddenly become more expensive than usual...

Achievement Unlocked.

Worked in car sales. Trust me they wouldn’t sell the car unless they got you lol. Hate to break it to you, if you bought, you never won

A quick way to ruin their sale is to say you are buying the car in cash after you negotiated the price.

@@Rafa-ln9bz I've done this. I love the face they make.

@@Rafa-ln9bz I did this in March. They were so mad. Me: "Well, you didn't ask how I was paying. "

This is the best comment on this video and extremely true. Like many things in the United States the product is just a tool to facilitate a loan.

Yep. I follow Dave Ramsey. He is so right about not ever having a car payment. Take that money that you would pay for a car payment and put it in the bank. In 2-3 years you can buy a really reliable used car with cash and save yourself a lot of money.

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It's worth it.

I'll take a day of stress if it saves me $2000 lol. Just gotta refactor your mental state. They want to see you a car more than you want to buy a car, really the buyer has them by the balls. Nitpick em' for a couple hours, pretend you don't like the car and you're probably gonna get at least $1k off their sticker price

@@dodobeebee7352 maybe.

I think that we are always screwed by the dealer we just aren't sure how.

I’ve had great experiences at the dealership. You screw yourself automatically by buying a new car.

Came here to comment this

very true!

True I almost skipped the video

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I was thoroughly confused by the two

Just buy used cars

@@HusseyStars Used cars are good if you buy them from old people, less wear and tear. But the Tesla model is the future.

Unfortunately dealers have some of the strongest lobbying groups on the state level. They buy off the politicians to make sure the automakers stay bound to them forever.

I like being a good negotiator.

Tesla claims to make a 30% profit on every car they sell. Walk into any dealership and offer to pay a 30% markup and you will be treated like a king.

Same, people I've known for years will launch into sales mode if I so much say I like a car. They just can't help it

If you know most of them, seems unlikely that they will do anything but try and help you make the best purchase

And they probably still screwed you!!!

Doing research on the Auto Loan and Car Sale research in the USA is it a legal requirement that you have to provide multiple references. Can only get a loan through the dealership bank and have to provide your living situation(i.e. own, or rent a home)?

You’re weak. I bought a half dozen cars from my dealer for cheaper than even the dealer gets them. Master Volvo tech here.

Facts it's 2020 and I just bought a 2015 it's was about 20,000 cheaper I'm the 2nd owner.

No way I would purchase a car without a test drive.

I would love for things to be that way.. seeing that I hate dealerships and I'm a truck driver

@@mss627 rent the model for a week

There are a lot of things like that where if they simplified processes, things would be cheaper. To them they probably don't wanna do that because it would eliminate jobs and a lot of money on the line for them.

Agreed

As a car salesman myself can't wait either lol

Ha! If you have a good trade in make them overvalue it and save on the tax difference 😁👍 The only reason to buy from a dealership... they want your clunker for the Used car department!

Hey come on, they're just small business owners serving the community and money has nothing to do with it.

@@draneym2003 Their small business inflate prices of goods that most Americans need to commute. Buy direct from manufacturers and cut out the middle man.

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Who’s That Girl? 😂

8000RPM this made me laugh out loud 🤣🤣🤣

@@paulwilliams2024 For a salesman, money isn't everything,....(but it's way ahead of whatever is in second place).

oh good one, dumb and wrong

Ya that totally happened

I’ll take “things that didn’t happened” for $200 Alex.

Because Tito has every reason in the world to lie to people he don’t even know.

I walked out at 2 hours (just as i got to the sales cotract, which easily would have taken 6-7 hours to read and understand) so i can believe it

That’s why they’re called stealerships. Oh, and I will never buy another Toyota. Last year, they donated thousands to insurrection approving republicans. Phooey on them.

Once again the internet cuts out the middle man. So much for the middle income, sigh!!!

@@hackman669 tell the middleman to get a new gig

Similar to how Tesla does it. Order online then pick up your car. There are some cars on the lot, but their inventory is not your only option.

@@hackman669 It's not even because of the internet. It's more like they have showrooms that have models on display, but then you order specifically what you want. There's nothing you can buy and drive the same day--and so there's not huge lots full of parked cars 90% of people don't even want to begin with.

Same in India

And pay sticker price, dummy?

A Commentator dealers make money off monthly payments they don’t give price cuts on someone cash ready only if you finance will you get a “deal”

@@acommentator69 troll, if we didn't have to pay commission and all the unnecessary fees that come with a dealership, the sticker price would be ridiculously lower. Besides, I suspect there would be a huge incentive for automakers here as well.

Do you mean bargaining or haggling?

@@johnspurrier0001 they will just raise the price of the car. There is no winning plus you can't test drive it.

Case in-point is the necessity of 'gap insurance'. The car loses so much value just driving it off the lot that there is a 'gap' between the actual value the insurance would pay if it were 'totaled' and what you still owe the bank. If you brought in a trade or made a down payment that is greater than the first-year depreciation, you usually don't need it. But you have people who want the car at whatever financial doom they may get themselves into (been there, done that), people who need gap insurance and don't get it, and people who get it and don't need it. The dealer isn't going to educate you fully on these things. They have an interest in getting their cut of the financing, or a commission in their paycheck, or many other ways the dealerships/dealers/factories/banks trade money behind the scenes as sales incentives. If it costs you more money but you still sign the paperwork, they're happy. Their job is to get you right to the edge where you will pay and drive away vs walk away and go elsewhere. After you drive off the lot, they don't care. They got paid. Any 'customer care' shenanigans are simply to convince you to either refer a friend or buy another car there if you decide to buy again.

Once upon a time, you could buy a Model-T in any color, so long as it was black. Point is, humans, especially buying a vehicle, are emotional, not logical.

KIA dealership are all criminals.

As someone who used to work in sales (not car sales), it was once explained to me by a supervisor that, and I quote, "they're adults, so if they can't responsibility manage their money, they deserve to lose it". Didn't say a word to him the rest of the day and never went back to that job. 5yrs later, that place isn't there anymore

I'm reading this thinking about getting a new car lmao

He just wanted your money

The Mullinax Group are a great company!! They care about their Guests and their employees!!!

They always talk about the 'value' never the price; 'And we'll throw in free tyre-rotation for three years. A $120 value!'

Next time just work with the bank and then go to AAA to sign the paperwork. I've done that and it was super easy.

@@kamX-rz4uy Sadly financing through the dealership saved me more, else I would have. :/

I agree. 100%. I just cannot understand however, why it is stupid millennials cannot correctly punctuate a sentence?

@@hamentaschen Little bit ironic considering your own spelling in that sentence.

kenneth Delgado they are an annoying part of the process, just give me the keys and let me test drive the car. They always try to sell you on a car like if you aren’t already set on a specific car

Went to Darcas dealership for used Toyota venza, price = 23k Went to dealership auction for used Toyota venza, price = 8k. Plust taxes, regulations, license plates, dealers percentage = 10k.

Only problem is that those salesmen have family's to feed as well . That is a livelihood for so many individuals that's just walked over

watch "the homework guy" channel

Financing is where they make most of their money. When they get offers from banks on your behalf they get offers such as, we'll finance for 5%, but you can try to wiggle 7% from the buyer. If they get you to agree to the 7% they get to keep all the money from the extra 2%. This is why if you start to walk away because the monthly fee just isn't working out, they'll go back and magically find they can now offer you 5.5%. You will ALWAYS lose if you let the dealership handle the financing. If you do walk in with pre-financing they will try to convince you that they can get you a lower payment. In reality, that is probably true but their lower payment may cost you thousands over the lifetime of the loan because they'll get you a loan takes 7 years to pay off vs maybe the 5 years you walked in with. The dealership will always try to get you to focus on the monthly payment and not the total cost of the loan. Most people are easy prey to this tactic. Now, in the defense of the dealerships, they are a business and thus they are there to make money. Prices on cars are so competitive that they just can't stay in business solely on the profits from the car itself. Upselling on services and things you don't need and financing are a neccisity for them. Without most people falling for these, you wouldn't be able to go to any dealerships because they would go out of business. And finally, the sad thing is the financing you can get from dealerships often ends up with someone purchasing a car they truly can't afford. This later leads to repossession and these people are the worse victims here.

Lmfbao now that’s a statement

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Damn that’s intense lol

Sooo True

Thats the comment of the year of 2020

I have been bicycle commuting for over 20years; car-free for over 10years now. I estimate I save approximately $10K/year (give or take a couple K). My savings reflects this.

@@xjarheadjohnson I wish i lived in an area where I can just commute on a bike.

@@mackenziegray2090 , I have heard that concern from people I work with (in different jobs) for years. That said, I live in one of the best cities for it. *Minneapolis is Redfin's most bikeable city in U.S. for 2020* www.kare11.com/article/news/health/minneapolis-2019-redfin-most-bikeable-city-in-us/89-7baac702-af99-405a-b1f4-ad12431220df

I'm not a fan of car salesmen but I have benefited from learning how to haggle from my father and his mother. Nan always ran a table at the market in London, just like her mother. I would help her run her table as a kid and was given some leeway selling stuff. Mostly, I get frustrated with car dealerships as a woman. Instead of talking to me about the actual engine and gas mileage etc..., they want to tell me how many baby car seats it can fit and up-sell me to an SUV. I don't want or need a minivan or an SUV or a pick-up truck. I don't care about their entertainment system. I understand the initial mistake but when I've made it clear, that isn't the stuff I want to talk about, I really wish they would change gears and stop insisting on telling me what I want. I get the sense I disappointment dealerships.

Me too..my is 2008...my pregnant wife and I have to go back 7 times to finally resolve the problem..we finally got the right car that the salesperson had made a big mistake...Awful!!!dealership...

That depends on which make. Automakers such as Ford and GM are heavily in debt, they might not have the capital to overhaul the entire dealership landscape. You also need to know Dealership rarely makes money off selling a New Car, they tend to lose money on it, but make up for selling Extended Warranty, Customer Package, and Loans. If you simply learn to walk in and say you want the car only and nothing else, with a Good Credit Score, you won't get rip off. Everyone likes to use Tesla as a prime example of direct sale, but do some research first, Tesla doesn't see that many cars, and their Service Center don't require as many employees as Brands with 4000 dealerships across the US. And then there is the whole Used Car and Trade in complication, go look for a video of how Tesla deals with their Used cars, it is a disaster. My point is, Automakers might not want a Direct Sales model, because it adds much more complication to their business.

@Abhijeet Kundu if Automaker wants to sell cars directly, then they will have to waive the franchise fee dealership pays every year. For example, Apple sells directly to their customers, but Walmart also carries their products, but does walmart have to pay Apple a fee to simply carry their product? If you run a company on a franchise model, you will be subjected to a different set of rules.

Big government the biggest cost to business , shrink it 50% and abolish car taxes

@@steak5599 The Corporaton and Government takes 70% profit from franchise owner

Too much of being righteous in doing business, which America don't have nowadays peace.

Absolutely

Wrong. Until laws are changed you can only buy new cars from franchise dealers. Tesla does offer dealership models and sells direct. The big 3 is not designed to sell directly to public. Big corporate controls the industry. Autonation is the largest. Tons of jobs would be lost if this is reverse but it will never happen due the money in this system. Mfg,dealership, banks all make money on every purchase regardless if you pay cash or financing. Look up Gulf States Toyota..fees for shipping creates billions in profits

Wrong. Dealership are expanding as well as independent shops. The only competition is in pre own cars but dealerships also invest in preowned centers to maintain a steady supply of inventory. Carvana is owned by guy that owned multiple dealerships Its not new business model just perception

I hope you're right, but the laws protecting dealerships would need to change in order for them to go away. Tesla is helping to force the issue, but until the other large auto manufacturers start pressuring states to allow them to sell direct to consumer in order to compete, nothing will fundamentally change.

You can also rent a car from someone that owns it for an affordable price through an app called Turo. Turo is like Air BnB for cars. It isn't available in NY or California, so you'd have to travel out of state if you live there, but I just did it with a Tesla model 3. I rented the car from a man in New Jersey cuz I live in New York and I took it home and drove it all week. It cost like $120 a day after tax and Turo finders fees and the milage limit was really high so I didn't go over. It was so easy and the vehicle owner showed me how to use all the features. I really want a model 3 now and when I have to buy a new car I will definately rent the make and model of the car on Turo and drive for a week before I buy it. Probably buy second hand from a civilian or lease.

While he steals the paper with the figures on it and rejigs it then brings it back to you with a straight face .

The average price of a new car in America is $37,876. The base price of a new Tesla Model 3 is $37,990. Not much difference there.

Another elon fan for sure

@@waflletoast11 If plain, uncomplicated facts make for an Elon fan then we are all Elon fans, unless that is you disagree with simple facts?

Waffle - A gamble startup is kicking well established car company’s ass.

I have been bicycle commuting for over 20years; car-free for over 10years now. I estimate I save approximately $10K/year (give or take a couple K). My savings reflects this.

In many states extended service contracts or warranties are regulated by the state and price cannot be adjusted up or down

Get better at negotiation and you will pay the best price

Right? They ought to be called CPNS Car Price Negotiation Shops

You shouldn’t have to negotiate. Their intent is to rip you off. They feel great when they do that.

Pastor Emmell's Bible Messages I bought a Tesla with only texting the guy to get the paper work and keys, a fixed same price for everyone, no sleazy salesman to work with not to mention the safest car to drive

@@athithyagounder7954 those non Negotiable prices are usually higher than the market haha

It’s too bad ….. and sad that people are loosing the skill of how to negotiate a deal. I have never or could ever buy a car at asking price! What are they going to do when they purchase property or a house?

It still takes 6 hours to buy a car

what do you say to get below asking price?!?!?@@iam.miikey

Buy Used, we all quite buying new, things might change, Carvana is a start.

Your message exudes snobbery. Car salesman are good psychologist. They see a white couple, middle aged, he drives "shiny" BMW, a car is actually for her. She's got a laundry list of what she wants and don't you dare give your opinion. Yeah bro, you are nobodies favorite customer. I'm sure same happens to you when you walk into the electronics store because people can tell you are a d-bag from far away.

@@InChargeOFFun Goddamn Dmitriy, goddamn...

Bro, you had my ear until you said you drove a BMW. Sorry.

OMG I completely feel you on the second point. I went to go look for a new car with my gf (she was looking for a higher trim civic, maybe even a type r) and the salesman became soooo snobby and condescending with her and flat out refused to show her the sport trim civics (which btw, are only a trim level above the base and are not fast in any way) because it was "too sporty" for her. He also laughed at her when we were looking at the type r (again, not the fastest car). It's just ridiculous to me that this guy is prioritizing gatekeeping one of the most popular commuter cars in America. Thanks to his attitude, we were able to finalize our purchase of a new model 3. So I thank him for his help in making our decision.

@Hello John Stone, How are you doing?

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Carvana always have their cars on markup. You think you're getting a good deal because of the no haggle, but you aren't. Just buy from private sellers. They need cash, you need a car. Done.

Hmoob_Mikah Carvana puts a lot of money in recondition their vehicles to top condition after they buy them. You also get warranty, financing, delivery and other perks like the no haggling. That’s worth it to most people especially during a pandemic where you supposed to keep your distance from people. You pay for convenience. Just the way it goes. Private sellers you got to be carful with just like like you should with any car you buy. Just know a good mechanic that can look the vehicle over before you commit.

Hmoob_Mikah not everyone has the time or knowledge to pick out a good used car from a private seller

@@Alister22ful And you think private sellers always take care of their cars properly? It's just luck unless you know what you're looking at. I'm not arguing for one way or another, I'm saying there is no absolute answer

lol thanks for share this experience

@@Waterfound Yeah....something new I learned, which I did not anticipate or thought about. Got to love the Smart Car after 3 months...lol

It's how every car dealer operates through Europe. Much more efficient way. Less unwanted stock. You could buy showroom models after 6 months with a discount. It has been used for the test drives though.

@@martinreinders6870 I learned the hard way...haha. I moved to Germany from the USA, where I had gone through the car buying process like 6 times. It was just out of mind when I was planning my move. Preoccupied with where to live, kid's schools, new job, etc...

Had same problem looking for a bed in Brisbane can't buy the showroom bed that day went elsewhere

Amen....!

Exactly how I perceive it. You need car, seller needs cash....end

@@daveanderson7716 Only thing that's complicated is exchanging the Pink slip at the DMV.

So much simpler. It’s how I sell.

Used cars FTW, only time your should ever buy a car is if you can flush thousands in depreciation

Same

Ethics?

I started working at a dealership almost 2 months ago and it's only a matter of time for me to leave as soon as I find another job. I can't afford to be unemployed and I don't like the way some managers work as far as trying to convince people that having monthly payments for 5, sometime 7 or more yrs is ok especially when these cars lose value So Quickly! I don't see how the finance managers are ok doing what they do either getting people to sign agreements with these Outrages interest rates! My advice: Have cash in hand or a 0% financing loan from your bank before walking into a dealership and Do Your Research!

@@maliroa6113 They're upselling you for the vehicle you so desire. If you don't like it, walk out and go buy your car somewhere else.

@@maliroa6113 wow, you are absolutely right.

Baby Boomers - well you're making 4x the income we did when we started out, your first house is way nicer, your car is way nicer, you don't repair your clothes when they are worn, and you like to eat out more than once a month. So yeah - you are poorer than we were in 1960?! And hey, women are no longer paid 2/3rds of the male wage for the same job, and you don't live under the threat of imminent nuclear war, or being drafted for Asian wars. So, life was better back then?!

@@miken4591 You forgot inflation, middle class now is being comfortable in a condo, in the past it was a two car garage house.

@@miken4591 yea there's no way you can say it's 100% easier now than back then. I couldn't dream of owning a home with a 2-car garage + yard when I was in my 20's. Apartment living with roommates is the new norm for young professionals with highly skilled degrees. All generations have their struggles and overall the newer generations have it better, but to say baby boomers would thrive and be young home owners near a big city with a nice job in the current landscape is extremely short-sighted. You don't know the meaning of the term rat race until you've been to multiple all-day interviews and still not getting the job.

@@boratb258 - yeah, right, inflation in the '70s was up to 25%.!

@@NewWaveSports229 - baby-boomers suffered from the 1970s inflation and then suffered to get rid of it. We also suffered to transform society so all lot of the 1950/60 embedded racism and sexism was reduced. Read up about the 1960s cultural revolution and black rights movements. Sure a lot of baby-boomers became old and complacent, but the changed were profound. Not that much corruption, given the depths of the 1950s military-industrial complex.

Walk in with cash. It’s even better

Just don't tell em you're paying cash.

So if you take out a loan form capital one or a bank you’ll be paying the bank back instead of the dealer ship right??

Not all dealers are like that. Mine isn’t.

32 x 20k = 640k, give or take 100k for trade ins, options. Dam Bless your heart man. Imagine if you bought a couple cars instead and invested that money for all them years.

I’ve come across some horrible sales men, it really irks me when they are nice when they think they have a potential sale but when you turn them down after hours of negotiation their attitude flips and become rude and cold.

ThirtyOne Fifty They are great at wasting your day.

And they never actually 'talk to the manager'. It's a ploy. Often they just leave and gaze out of the window for ten minutes, letting you think he's haggling on your behalf.

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You have to pay cash upfront and wait for a Tesla and returning one is a pain

If that's the only alternative, then we need a third option as the delays for service many Tesla owners experience wouldn't be acceptable to me. I love electric cars, but I'd get one at a dealership so that I have local service and support on a quick timeframe. The dealership experience sucks, but waiting for service sucks even harder IMO.

And just you wait until you need a part or repairs on that Tesla

Brian The Explorer any idiot with a phone can look up the average msrp of any item don’t have to go to a dealership and be ripped off plus you can always call before going

^^^^^THIS!!!

You mean you don't want a hitch for towing? You might need that in the future of you decide to go camping. Lmao

Yes, but the buyer should cut it short and tell the F&I to skip the BS. Or walk away.

Good luck when you get broomed by service because you were too negligent and cheap to protect yourself. You’re the customer that goes back to finance in 5 years begging to buy a warranty because service just cleaned you out of $4,000 for a $50 part replacement. 😅

⁠@@fromthedigmedia3299You must be in the finance department yourself.

...exactly, I honestly don’t know why these sales people still act like silly buggers....especially most folks out there can do extensive research before showing up in the dealership(s).

My only problem with Carvana is you have no clue how the car will drive, if theres any problems with it. Ive seen some car listings on there where they take a picture of the dash, theres a check engine light on there.

Hell no. You still can't even negotiate and will still get screwed on 7 year loans

Carvana is a horrible business model for consumers , if u do your research and take your time to look for the right deal buying a car from the dealer is still far more affordable as you have room to negotiate as dealers at least let you negotiate whereas caravanas mark ups on cars are pretty outrageous. You're literally paying extra for convenience

It could probably work for a new car, but for a used car I wouldn't buy it with personally looking at it and driving it Even for a new car, most of the times you need to personally compare similar cars across different makes.

But you still need a salesperson

I hate buying things online.

@@ronyates7332 I think the pandemic has shown us some of the problems America has

Buying online is definitely easier

@@brendaalves7842 Absolutely. I've learnt the importance of having friends around. Lol

Dealerships are unnecessary

I find buying used cars Better because u can low ball a guy unlike a salesmen lowballing u😂

@@chinchecker464 then find out car got super underlining problems so they lowballed you.

It is safer than buying private as a major dealer will not hide problems with any car. I usually bargain with them as I know they will offer very little anyway on a trade but these days they are less flexible as they are discounting in advance. I have had offers of 35,000 on old 911's and sold them myself for 54,000.

It is fine to buy from them as long as you do your homework, know your absolute deal, and are willing to leave at any point in the process. It is NOT a place for the naïve or the beginner.

@Esteban Camacho : my respect to you Camacho! You are a real man, not a boy!

You stayed too long.. I bought my car and only went to drive it off the lot, took 15 mins.. I do not go to car dealerships, not even for a free oil change. They are one big scam operation.

@Esteban Camacho I like your style. I also got pre-approved and had two salespeople waste my time. Not much of my time, though. And the salesperson at the third dealer was great. She kept it simple and honest and so did I. She actually transferred my new car out of the first dealer because stock was so limited!

Consider yourself lucky. Most dealerships will spend hours trying to talk customers out of using their own financing. Some even hike up the price if you finance elsewhere.

I got a great rate from my credit union about 5 years ago for 2.9%. Dealer found out that I had a 820 FICA score then called somebody and got me a 2.7% rate. They wanted to only match my deal but insisted they beat it.

3-5 weeks seems lightning fast in todays market

@@gumerzambrano yeah I am in the Colorado/Canyon forum and people have ordered since last Nov, production started Jan 24, and most have still not even heard back when they should expect their truck delivered. So yeah 5 weeks from order to delivery of a personally specced new vehicle delivered to your house, yeah thats great by todays standards.

​@@RossMalagarie I can tell you that the factory that makes those trucks is working pretty hard, but production levels aren't even close to 2018.

@@lordofthefries4140 supply chain problems reducing materials, reducing product output? Less products means less supply and more demand, which means above MSRP?

@@RossMalagarie There's many factors. Material supply is still tight. Stall in labor negotiations, launching a new product means more products on a limited production line, prioritization of fleet customers, and even weather can all have an impact on when your car is completed.

i went there last week for reg service and told me to change the brakes and rotors on a 20k mile car when i recently changed the brakes 3 momths ago.

@@be4unvme So typical! UKposts has become my favorite resource for all things cars and maintenance.

@@adamc.7795 yea it's always been like that for me. I only go to dealership for minor maintenance and everytime I go they think they're talking to a dumb housewife and try to scare me into unnecessary purchases and repairs. That's their bread and butter.

The dealerships can only steal from you if you sign on the line though... Take this simple story to prove my point. Your in a town and at the local tavern all the people say that there is a gang of thieves in a particular house in that town, but oddly enough, they will only steal from you if you walk into that house, and then agree to the theft by signing on a written contract... Is that stealing?