Why Britain’s Water Companies are Going Bankrupt

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The Oxford-Cambridge boat race was overshadowed by a warning about high e coli levels in the Thames, reflecting chronic underinvestment since water privatization in 1989. Thames Water is nearing bankruptcy, posing challenges for Sunak.
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0:00 Intro
1:03 Why did the UK Privatise Water?
3:28 When did it all go wrong?
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@dondoodat
@dondoodat Місяць тому
Thatcher would have privatised air if she could have.
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j Місяць тому
O'hare air has entered the chat
@user-yn7ll3qz1p
@user-yn7ll3qz1p Місяць тому
Well they tax it now with this carbon credit nonsense, do indirectly she did...
@wiicow
@wiicow Місяць тому
Already has, we leave it private companies not to pollute air
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 Місяць тому
well wasn't BOAC privatised under her? technically done half the job.
@CulturedThugPoster
@CulturedThugPoster Місяць тому
The script goes thus. Buy national utilities using borrowed money printed for free by your mates. Lobby government to reduce the commitments you are forced to take on. Take out huge loans in the name of the companies. Sell to one of the other utilities providers (many providers were supposed to encourage competition and dissuade monopoly) .. slide towards monopoly. Move corporate headquarters outside the influence of the nation state government. Milk till dry.
@parametr
@parametr Місяць тому
Privatise an essential resource. Privatise into a monopoly. Allow the essential resource to be owned by foreign money. Allow the monopoly to borrow billions just to share dividends. Allow the monopolies to do whatever they want, because it's an essential resource. Rescue the monopolies, because it's an essential resource. Who would have guessed?
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Місяць тому
Because the public system was failing and needed massive investment, yet now apparently we have lots of money for the government to invest in it!?!!?
@parametr
@parametr Місяць тому
@@SaintGerbilUK The privatised water companies are DEEP into debt and have crumbling infrastructure. But they keep taking on debt to pay dividends and not fix anything, while polluting more and more. The longer it takes to nationalise them, the bigger the hole. Water is not an investment. We can't live with that, there can only be one provider, and it's limited. It's an essential resource. It's not an investment. It's a responsibility the government must take on. Ever been to Scotland?
@scpatl4now
@scpatl4now Місяць тому
Didn't the government impose standards? How on earth should it have been legal to borrow money and pay dividends with it???
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Місяць тому
@@parametr they fixed more than the previous public system. I'd suggest you watch the video that's literally why they were sold in the first place. Water is an investment and it needs more investment, there can be multiple providers much like electricity, telecoms and rail there are multiple companies running services on the same infrastructure if it works there why not here? The idea that it must be a monolithic structure is just false. Yes I grew up in Scotland, it was crap and cold.
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Місяць тому
@@scpatl4now exactly the right question, rather than the ill thought out knee jerk "must be nationalized" response from the socialists.
@prideofdurham4776
@prideofdurham4776 Місяць тому
Cause was 250+ MPs voting to allow raw sewage be dumped into our waterways for lets say "certain perks".
@jayc342009
@jayc342009 Місяць тому
The same people happy to tax us more for their green agenda
@andybrice2711
@andybrice2711 Місяць тому
Though (as I understand it) the situation wasn't quite that simple. If they didn't allow the sewage to be dumped into rivers, the sewers could overflow instead. Which I think we would all agree is even worse.
@boarfaceswinejaw4516
@boarfaceswinejaw4516 Місяць тому
@@andybrice2711 which itself only became a problem because the private water companies keep skirting around the need to upgrade their water treatment.
@andybrice2711
@andybrice2711 Місяць тому
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 Well, yes. But I don't think we can necessarily condemn the MPs in that more recent vote. They had to choose between two bad options.
@greyarea6688
@greyarea6688 Місяць тому
​@andybrice2711 The problem wasn't a binary choice. Private firms in charge of public utilities will seek to pay their shareholders before they actually do what they're there to do. The government should have made water companies invest money in water-treatment and infrastructure over shareholder dividends, but that, as they say, is another matter entirely.
@mdr48371
@mdr48371 Місяць тому
Privatize the profits, socialize the risk.
@jacobmacdonagh4070
@jacobmacdonagh4070 Місяць тому
That’s why the govt shouldn’t be involved in managing that risk or bailing them out, they should suffer the consequences of running a business badly
@stevenhenry5267
@stevenhenry5267 Місяць тому
No part of infrastructure should be privatized
@RaRd8z
@RaRd8z Місяць тому
The privatization is not the problem, the problem is that the government granted it a MONOPOLY!
@dickgrayson4237
@dickgrayson4237 Місяць тому
@@jacobmacdonagh4070 So cut off access to an essential service for millions of people?
@gameLode
@gameLode Місяць тому
​@@jacobmacdonagh4070The consequences are people dying of water scarcety. Thats the problem with pirvatizing an essential recource. If Chanel goes bankrupt then we wont have that parfume, which is not as bad as water. It shouldnt be a private bussiness, water shouldnt need profit. Its ok that some things just cost money and thats it
@markportch6526
@markportch6526 Місяць тому
Thames water are absolutely dreadful, they took 4 years to resolve an issue where they kept billing me as a family of 4 when I lived on my own
@mrmg1235
@mrmg1235 Місяць тому
Same here, 18 months to 'resolve' a billing issue which left me a historic debt to clear that was their fault!
@coralink
@coralink Місяць тому
To be fair they had to properly investigate that you're not actually 4 foxes in a trenchcoat
@userxyz64
@userxyz64 Місяць тому
​@@mrmg1235I hope you didn't pay!
@LordWalsallian
@LordWalsallian Місяць тому
Severn Trent are currently doing this to me.
@AngryAmericanWizard
@AngryAmericanWizard Місяць тому
Why doos than have anynhing to do wuth waner service? I'm an American our private water companie don't know or care how many people live here, only how much water they are selling.
@rokaskarabevicius
@rokaskarabevicius Місяць тому
This needs criminal investigation. How is it even legal to pay dividends and CEOs bonuses on borrowed money while running the company to the ground? Madness. Should have never been privatised.
@Vroomfondle1066
@Vroomfondle1066 Місяць тому
I'm suprised the bond holders didn't object!
@Hardcore_Remixer
@Hardcore_Remixer Місяць тому
Because they control the acces to a crucial resource. Of course they can do as they please and then wait for the government to bail them with tax payer money. (Edit: I'm not on their side. What they do is disgusting.)
@markwelch3564
@markwelch3564 Місяць тому
​@@Hardcore_Remixerbut they are a private company, their debts aren't our problem We should force majure buy the assets as they are a strategic necessity for the country, but the debts are all theirs. That is what private means, does it not?
@Hardcore_Remixer
@Hardcore_Remixer Місяць тому
@@markwelch3564 Yes. The problem is that they simply won't be able to pay their debt and will blame it on the government. They simply made sure the government and the people it (is supposed to) serve would come out losing. Bur yeah, they should simply be forced to sell their assets and denied any burrow.
@Kx0195
@Kx0195 Місяць тому
​@@markwelch3564 but they are though... These people running these companies know full well that the water system cannot fail or go bust, so they have deliberately loaded the companies up with debt to fundamentally steal taxpayers money when we inevitably bail them out when it fails. They know this, so they've criminally fucked us to pay shareholders.
@JamesRoyceDawson
@JamesRoyceDawson Місяць тому
So many of our problems track back to Thatcher
@mylesbarrett2031
@mylesbarrett2031 Місяць тому
Similar situation in the US with Raegan. Seems like screwing over future generations was a trend in the 80s.
@houseslippers7732
@houseslippers7732 Місяць тому
​@@mylesbarrett2031 As old Ben would say, "From a certain point of view." Similar to how the saying goes one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. To you that time and those people are the problem but to another because of those individuals we live in a better place.
@SocialDownclimber
@SocialDownclimber Місяць тому
@@houseslippers7732 Yup, those investors and shareholders are now even richer. The people who rely on those water services definitely live in a worse place though, no matter what coloured glasses you look through.
@quillo2747
@quillo2747 Місяць тому
So many of our problems can be traced to mass immigration and simply not being able to build infrastructure, pipes, treatment works, hospitals, schools, houses fast enough to cope with massive demand increases every year. 700k net last year alone, we cant build a new city every year.
@kevinwilde
@kevinwilde Місяць тому
thatcher the milk snatcher diabolical prime minister.
@johnburn8031
@johnburn8031 Місяць тому
Time to renationalise all water companies!
@Snipe_the_Hype
@Snipe_the_Hype Місяць тому
Lol look at everything the government owns and runs, it's worse 😂
@dondoodat
@dondoodat Місяць тому
Time to make them do what they're paid to do. If they can't, let them go bankrupt and nationalise them the day after. That way the taxpayer doesn't get landed with having to buy them out and take on their massive debts.
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 Місяць тому
nah don't bother with the companies. Just the infrastrucuture they control and set up a completely new government owned company to deal with it. Should only cost £1
@johnburn8031
@johnburn8031 Місяць тому
@@dondoodat agreed!
@mathyeuxsommet3119
@mathyeuxsommet3119 Місяць тому
Actually what they need to to merge with each other for better coordination,Nationalisation won't do anything,water is still a limited resource with a price on it so whether private or public the companie needs to be for profit.
@Troy-McLore
@Troy-McLore Місяць тому
Greed by shareholders, CEOs & Tory chums.
@greyarea6688
@greyarea6688 Місяць тому
Absolutely. When the priority to pay the shareholders takes precedence over the service a business is actually supposed to provide this same issue will continue to occur.
@annoyboyPictures
@annoyboyPictures Місяць тому
'Open Borders' Labour is your obvious solution... what could go wrong with having LIMITED RESOURCES for Public Services, and then letting in an UNLIMITED amount of Immigrants to sign up for these Benefits paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAYER? 🤣
@hg82met
@hg82met Місяць тому
And a regulatory body (Ofwat) that exists solely to help the private companies find loopholes, and not to serve the interests of the public.
@stephanguitar9778
@stephanguitar9778 Місяць тому
​@annoyboyPictures I thought they came to steal jobs, not take benefits. Make your mind up. Your tories have done nothing more than swap Europeans for Africans and Indians etc. Bur more so as we cannot move to Europe as we used to. People like you caused this sewage problem and our broken NHS by voting Tory over the last 45 years.
@quillo2747
@quillo2747 Місяць тому
​@@annoyboyPictures700k net new people last year alone. We cant build treatment works fast enough to cope so their turds end up in our rivers and seas.
@vedantgupta01
@vedantgupta01 Місяць тому
I can't believe any sane man with human dignity will auction off water.
@drunkensailor112
@drunkensailor112 Місяць тому
An insane woman
@Kaizen917
@Kaizen917 Місяць тому
It was a Liz Truss but with more budget wiggle room and an army to wage a war
@delldell21
@delldell21 Місяць тому
Tories aren't human. They know the cost of everything but the value of nothing.
@jacobmacdonagh4070
@jacobmacdonagh4070 Місяць тому
Why is water any different than land?
@drunkensailor112
@drunkensailor112 Місяць тому
@@jacobmacdonagh4070 because two days without water and you're dead
@laurentdrozin812
@laurentdrozin812 Місяць тому
We have the same problem with electricity in Sweden, and suddenly we start to realize that the grid has not been invested into for decades, but profits are healthy, thank you very much.
@moos5221
@moos5221 26 днів тому
That's very surprising to hear. I'm from Germany where Vattenfall ist the 4th largest electricity company and it's 100% owned by the swedish state. Germany had begun to buy back electricity grids from private companies such as Vattenfall though. In my opinion anything related to our basic needs (electricity, water, sewage, gas, trash&recycling,...) should never be privatized. Vattenfall is also known for lobbyism (=corruption) and has sued Germany for getting out of nuclear energy for which Vattenfall received billions as compensation. If the electricity/water/... sector is profitable, then it should be owned publicly to share the revenue between the people and if it's unprofitable and causing the companies to mismanage the grid infrastructure then it should be owned publicly to make sure it stays in working condition. In other words: it should never be private.
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 12 днів тому
For my country (Singapore) we opened up electricity generation & selling but not transmission to competition by private companies around 5 yrs ago, & they handed out attractive deals to customers to attract them, but many of those companies have since gone bust & customers have seen their bills go up significantly when they return back to our remaining electricity companies. We also tendered out a desalination-cum-electricity power plant to a private company called HyFlux that was the country's darling, but I heard it underbid too aggressively to win the contract, and thus struggled to have enough money to maintain the plant (partially because it was tendered out around the same time the electricity market was opened up & prices went down).The gov't then repossessed the plant & portrayed the situation euphemistically by claiming that the plant had devalued so much that its valuation at repossession was negative, so thus the gov't was being benevolent by 'only' repossessing the plant & not also demanding compensation due to the plant's claimed negative valuation. Later I heard HyFlux's leader was being investigated for embezzlement, though before that some netizens were already calling her an embarrassment of her alma mater. Still I can imagine some of our ministers using the UK's situation to disparge the criticism that the UK might have of Singapore e.g. retaining capital punishment, detention without trial & contempt of court after the UK had repealed them. One of our ministers also argued that Richard Branson had "no right to lecture" against capital punishment for a drug mule with reportedly low IQ (whom my country argued was lying I think), given that the UK had started the Opium War. Additionally he claimed that no one in the UK wants to become a judge since contempt of court has been repealed there
@Isomoar
@Isomoar 8 днів тому
I mean we have it in water, electricity, rail, post, oil, pretty much anything that would be a natural monopoly is in this country for the profit of a few. But those pesky immigrants contributing to society and all that dog whistling 🙄
@alice1374
@alice1374 Місяць тому
For 35 years, the cost of privatisation has led to £2bn a year out of investment or a total of £70,000,000,000 (£70bn) so it's clear, don't privatise a sector that shouldn't be for profit. Water isn't for sale just like healthcare isn't but seems to be.
@nathanaelsmith3553
@nathanaelsmith3553 Місяць тому
My parents went to watch the boat race. They said one factor contributing to Oxford's loss was their having more preferred rowers off sick with ecoli.
@noelstar1456
@noelstar1456 Місяць тому
Nah, Oxford’s been losing a lot recently. Cambridge is just better 😌
@nathanaelsmith3553
@nathanaelsmith3553 Місяць тому
@@noelstar1456 probably - what I found surprising was that it is an occupational hazard for both teams.
@RealUlrichLeland
@RealUlrichLeland Місяць тому
I used to do rowing and one time I capsized and swallowed some water, and that night I was vomiting my guts out until morning. Rivers have only gotten much dirtier since then.
@OilBaron100
@OilBaron100 25 днів тому
@@RealUlrichLelanddo youz pump raw sewage into your rivers in the UK?
@Kai_Cenat6
@Kai_Cenat6 24 дні тому
i like the idea that the team with strongest immune system wins
@robbiedunn143
@robbiedunn143 Місяць тому
You mean England's water crisis? No issues in Scotland where water isn't privatised.
@greg_mca
@greg_mca Місяць тому
And less of a crisis in wales, where most people are served by a non-profit
@FonFreeze
@FonFreeze Місяць тому
In UK, I feel like Scotland is almost always step ahead in right direction.
@staticgrass
@staticgrass Місяць тому
Yes you know why you keep seeing articles about pumping Scotlands water to London. It’s cheaper to do that than fix their own problems.
@coreymorris2692
@coreymorris2692 Місяць тому
⁠@@staticgrasshaha I was just going to write, loads of articles showing dŵr cymru giving Thames water millions of litres of water.
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 Місяць тому
@@staticgrass The Scottish Publicly owned Water Company sent a subsidiary into England and it has bought pieces of England's privatised water industry. Yorkshire Water's Business Customers in 2019. Southern Water's Business Customers in 2016.
@judewarner1536
@judewarner1536 Місяць тому
According to standard capitalist arguments, dividends are supposed to be paid out of profits generated by the production or service revenue of a company, i.e., they are perfotmance-based. Why are companies allowed to pay dividends out of borrowings when customers then have to pay higher prices on the cost of the borrowed cash? That is not productive business it is an unregulated scam to put extra money in the pockets of executives and shareholders while doing nothing to enhance the business' performance, which latter was the argument for privatisation.
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 Місяць тому
"That is not productive business it is an unregulated scam to put extra money in the pockets of executives and shareholders while doing nothing to enhance the business' performance" that's a nice summing up of neoliberalism
@kurolotus4851
@kurolotus4851 Місяць тому
Yes, dividends are paid according company's performance, but this performance is measured by profit (or by increases/decreases to this profit) which the company makes. For example if company sells clean water for 0.5 pounds/litre, and then starts to charge 1 pound/litre for muddy water (while the consumption of water remains the same), then increased dividends are justified since company "performed better". HOWEVER, normally customers would change service provider at this point, but in this case they can't since the water company has a monopoly.
@runeeskesen5920
@runeeskesen5920 Місяць тому
Not sure what capitalists you have listened to, but the function of companies is solely to provide dividend to shareholders. If the dividend comes from increased efficiency / increased performance it is simply a matter of luck. Dividend through borrowing and under investment is still dividend. It might even unlock a third source of dividend - bailout from the people. Unless nationalised or properly regulated the bailout will go straight into the pocket of shareholders. The bailouts will then continue until stopped because water isn't exactly an optional resource.
@andybrice2711
@andybrice2711 Місяць тому
£100bn of upgrades still needed, £70bn of dividends paid out, £60bn of debt. Sounds suspiciously similar to a Ponzi scheme.
@MettMagier
@MettMagier Місяць тому
@@runeeskesen5920That‘s not the main function of companies. The main function is to make a profit with the service/goods they provide or manufacture. Not all companies are public. And not all public companies behave this way. Con Artist run companies do.
@imtired1696
@imtired1696 Місяць тому
What's NOT going completely wrong in the UK lately? Geeze.
@karlslicher8520
@karlslicher8520 Місяць тому
It still rains enough that Britain could hydro power all of Europe with capacity to spare to lead the inevitable titanium revolution.
@duplicitouskendoll9402
@duplicitouskendoll9402 Місяць тому
The rich are doing better, to be fair.
@andrewpepper3145
@andrewpepper3145 Місяць тому
Well let's see, we can't do water or sewers, we can't do roads, farming, hospitals, doctors appointments, jobs, houses, reasonable costs of living, anything being affordable, real wage growth, worthwhile pensions, military, manufacturing or politics... So.... 😂
@mori1bund
@mori1bund Місяць тому
Welcome to Tory country...
@Dragonaut111
@Dragonaut111 Місяць тому
@@andrewpepper3145 We outsource everything to foreign private companies, we can't afford it, we raise tax to pay for the services, private companies see the raise in tax and raise their prices. This is the problem when you allow foreign investment to run essential services, the societal problems they cause from maximising profits is never seen by them.
@mkvenner2
@mkvenner2 Місяць тому
John snow is rolling in his grave
@BanterRanterr
@BanterRanterr Місяць тому
🐺😅
@KatharineOsborne
@KatharineOsborne Місяць тому
For those unaware, John Snow was a scientist who figured out that a water pump in Soho was the source of a bad cholera outbreak in London, thus bringing about germ theory and recognition that pathogens are the source of a lot of disease. There's a pub in his name near the pump location.
@Jonny5a
@Jonny5a Місяць тому
Bazalgette too
@TheKazragore
@TheKazragore Місяць тому
Yup, probably.
@Randomstuffs261
@Randomstuffs261 Місяць тому
He didn't die though, didn't you watch season 8?
@evelbsstudio
@evelbsstudio Місяць тому
It's well known water companies have had 220 million cash injection to improve sewage systems but spent it on shareholders and bonuses.
@espurr3496
@espurr3496 Місяць тому
Privatized water is the most dystopian thing I've ever heard.
@Robert-hy3vv
@Robert-hy3vv Місяць тому
Why? They have better services than public industries which are wasteful and don't use diminishing resources effectively. The only reason why the UK's water is going bankrupt is because they can't set their own prices based on supply and demand. "Unlike energy companies, water companies do not set their own prices. In England and Wales, price limits are set for them for five-year periods by the independent economic regulator, Ofwat."
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 Місяць тому
​@@Robert-hy3vvNo, the British government is wasteful. When they don't stick their finger in the pie, public industry is extremely efficient. Just look at British Rail just before Privatization. So efficient, companies promised they could run things cheaper and more efficient, and then quickly realized they couldn't. The only problem with BR, was lack of funding. We could have even had a version of HS2 operating right now if BR had been allowed to build it in the 90s. Government ruins everything, and I'm tired of them never getting the blame.
@Wasserfeld.
@Wasserfeld. 29 днів тому
@@mattevans4377 As a rail worker, you're correct. Fortunately rail privatisation is soon over
@Wasserfeld.
@Wasserfeld. 29 днів тому
@@Robert-hy3vv LOL, yes, like everything in the UK, our pritivisted services should be more expensive than nationalised services everywhere else in Europe, so 'they can invest', while in reality, shareholders can get richer and our services always get worse. After 40 years of this nonsense I'd thught you'd have learned by now to stop believing Tory rubbish
@han090
@han090 27 днів тому
@@Robert-hy3vv The only reason? Not because they were paying shareholders with money they didn't have? If you took out the payments to shareholders, they'd be doing so much better. You know, like if it wasn't privatised.
@willieckaslike
@willieckaslike Місяць тому
In a word: GREED ! Privatisation means PROFIT for the Directors & shareholders, without a care for the consumer. (IMHO) No utility should be in private hands.
@hg82met
@hg82met Місяць тому
They've taken on tens of billions of pounds in debt to pay their shareholders £57 BILLION in dividends since the beginning of privatisation, and now either the taxpayer or their customers will need to bail them out. Welcome to capitalism where profits are privatised and losses are socialised.
@Jsnwrd
@Jsnwrd Місяць тому
Last I read they'd borrowed around £50bill to pay shareholders over £70bill
@N.i.c.k.H
@N.i.c.k.H Місяць тому
They wouldn't have any shareholders if they didn't pay dividends. Most people's pensions are invested in these companies.
@richardharrison903
@richardharrison903 26 днів тому
@@N.i.c.k.H Yes, somewhere under that, I think you almost grasped it. It shouldn't be run for shareholder profits.
@Zyphera
@Zyphera 23 дні тому
They should never be bailed out. The company failed its duty. The contract should therefore be null. The operation should be taken back and every singel penny the company has should be forced to be payed to the state. I would even go so far as to say that the shareholders that acted in bad faith should be forced to pay back.
@N.i.c.k.H
@N.i.c.k.H 23 дні тому
@@Zyphera The company's only duty is to its shareholders whatever you think it "should" be. That's the law.
@JohnJaggerJack
@JohnJaggerJack Місяць тому
Rather hard to believe one of the G10 nations is going to have trouble in providing its citizens with water, you know the first human basic right...
@timquestionmark
@timquestionmark Місяць тому
explains why theyre trying to get rid of human rights
@_____alyptic
@_____alyptic Місяць тому
@@timquestionmark Something something sovereignty
@bigleady
@bigleady Місяць тому
Its not unsurprisingly
@mathyeuxsommet3119
@mathyeuxsommet3119 Місяць тому
Need doesn't equal right but okay
@TazPessle
@TazPessle Місяць тому
​@@mathyeuxsommet3119 No. Access to drinkable water is a right by law. It's why no cafe etc. can charge for water.
@matthewframpton8737
@matthewframpton8737 Місяць тому
Privatisation of these Obligate Monopoly Public Utilities was a flawed idea from the start. It's being allowed to continue by a government refusing to acknowledge it's primary philosophy has failed. And we're all going to be left to pay the price.
@user-zf8nz2kh1m
@user-zf8nz2kh1m 26 днів тому
What is privatized is the administration of water, water is not sold. And the big problem with the United Kingdom is that it is excessively regulated. The privatization of water in Chile has been a complete success, it managed to reach the entire country and at low prices.
@TheRebornOne34
@TheRebornOne34 25 днів тому
@@user-zf8nz2kh1m The difference is that while its operated by the private sector, that its also heavily regulated. And even more, the government has invested a lot of money in making sure that more poverty stricken areas of the country could get water access. Privatization is great for bringing in that initial rush of money, but it requires heavy regulation so that the companies wont run away with the profits, just as they did in the UK.
@bam-skater
@bam-skater Місяць тому
'Englands'....Scottish water is still nationalised!
@Mr-Foad
@Mr-Foad Місяць тому
usual stuff ... English problems are labelled british, Scottish problems are labelled Scottish.... you don't see them talking about "british drug deaths", "british hate crime bill". Meanwhile good things in Scotland are labelled british "British oil" etc... sick of this pish.
@geewoods6590
@geewoods6590 Місяць тому
scottish and english water are very different, scotland has much better quality of water due to lochs whereas england has to pump alot of ground water like Ireland. Scotlands water is crazy cheap so apples and orange comparison.
@mmaximk
@mmaximk Місяць тому
@@geewoods6590 The largest draw on water in Ireland is for the Dublin region and it gets 80% of its water from the river Liffey - not from groundwater. A similarity between Ireland and England is in the failure to build a single new reservoir for decades. The government in Ireland struggled mightily to privatise water but failed in the face of massive civic disobedience.
@geewoods6590
@geewoods6590 Місяць тому
@@mmaximk I worked for Irish water for over 3 years in drinking water, and was joining when they brought in the water tax. They didnt try to privatize it but actually just tried to group it as all the counties were doing their own thing and not communicating. You guys just got more council tax when everyone complained about the water tax. The funding was still the same. GDR was my main area and Ireland has way more boreholes than any other water system ive been on. The problem with this video is it specifies "new" reservoirs when it isnt in the water baording interest to build new ones but actually to reduce the total number and increase the capacity of existings as this has much better Opex in the long run. These SRs need regular cleaning and have systems that require maintenance so actually I think the government is doing a good job in Ireland, you are about 15 years behind UK as far as streamlining it but that was because of all the small county and people resisting good change.
@gothicgolem2947
@gothicgolem2947 Місяць тому
And Wales is privatised
@justinjoseph8491
@justinjoseph8491 Місяць тому
When are we going to actually run our country and not rent our people out to capitalists around the globe? The privatisation of basic needs is both a admission of weakness and an act of submission by a government.
@crocodileguy4319
@crocodileguy4319 Місяць тому
An island nation that may or may not soon die of dehydration. "Water, water, everywhere, And all the boards did shrink; Water, water, everywhere, Nor any drop to drink..."
@derekmiller6091
@derekmiller6091 Місяць тому
Not Scotland mate!
@Abdullah_the_Palestinian
@Abdullah_the_Palestinian Місяць тому
None of it is Fresh Water
@HootMaRoot
@HootMaRoot Місяць тому
Don't worry north of England companies sell water to south England and Scotland sells it to north England
@matthewparker9276
@matthewparker9276 Місяць тому
Also currently experiencing unusually wet weather, but still in danger of running out of potable water.
@hg82met
@hg82met Місяць тому
If it doesn't rain for a week, there is a hosepipe ban. If it rains for a week, the rivers are overflowing with sewage. It's almost as if the private companies done zilch in the last 40 years to upgrade the infrastructure.
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 Місяць тому
To be fair Macquarie group is not exactly liked even in Australia
@derekmiller6091
@derekmiller6091 Місяць тому
Glug, glug, my lovely Scottish water is delicious.
@WillyJunior
@WillyJunior Місяць тому
Yeah but you have to live in Scotland
@thesenate4110
@thesenate4110 Місяць тому
@@WillyJunior way better than england
@WillCarrollHamilton
@WillCarrollHamilton Місяць тому
I'm moving North
@W1DO
@W1DO Місяць тому
​​​@@thesenate4110scotland is the nicest place in the world to live for about 3-4 weeks a year.. when it's not absolutely pishing it down, windy as fuck, freezing or covered in slushy snow or re-frozen slushy snow or only light for 6 hrs..... as long as there are no Neds in view.
@biwnzixebrxb4786
@biwnzixebrxb4786 Місяць тому
@@thesenate4110 with Humza Youseff and his new bill? Nah...
@deek0146
@deek0146 Місяць тому
"Nationalisation will cost money" - fuck that. Seize it, leave the investors with nothing. To anyone who says that's extreme, the reply is "no, extreme would be illegally confiscating the private wealth accrued by the ex-investors".
@PaladinCasdin
@PaladinCasdin Місяць тому
The mispronunciation of Macquarie is the funniest thing I've heard today! (It's ma-quarry for future reference)
@turtleflipper9935
@turtleflipper9935 Місяць тому
nah its thinking that sky news and the bbc are on the right
@SuhbanIo
@SuhbanIo Місяць тому
1:29 Pínoché LOL Do they even try pronouncing words right?
@stephanguitar9778
@stephanguitar9778 Місяць тому
In Australia, known as the Millionaire factory. Financial engineering at its worst.
@DanielHowarth00
@DanielHowarth00 Місяць тому
This gave me a good laugh too... its pronounced 'millionaires factory' guys
@BrazenBull91
@BrazenBull91 День тому
No one cares mate 😂
@shaunashton5434
@shaunashton5434 Місяць тому
It's almost like privatisation has removed long tem planning and development that work. Utilities are a public necessity, not a private profit necessity. Imagine the cost of creating the Victorian sewage network we still use. I wonder why it's never been replaced?
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Місяць тому
It sounds like there was no long term investment going on before which is why it required privatisation in the first place. In fact most of the Victorian water main that has been replaced has been done after privatisation.
@jacobmacdonagh4070
@jacobmacdonagh4070 Місяць тому
Because no one privately is allowed to build new water infrastructure even if they wanted to
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Місяць тому
@@jacobmacdonagh4070 that's government creating the problem not the private sector.
@jacobmacdonagh4070
@jacobmacdonagh4070 Місяць тому
@@SaintGerbilUK yes I agree
@olorin3815
@olorin3815 Місяць тому
​@@SaintGerbilUK i mean tha'ts just government not paying for it because it could be put off, always the same with politicians it would strain the budget make some things more expensive and take the budget away from more flashy stuff that would get them votes from next election. Politicians don't give a crap about problems that are gonna happen in 10 years as they aren't gonna be in office anymore, one of downsides of democracy i guess
@george-broughton
@george-broughton Місяць тому
It's because my road has had a leak on it for 17 years that nobody has bothered to fix.
@mitchrils
@mitchrils Місяць тому
I find that very hard to believe.
@RoyalLegend1000
@RoyalLegend1000 Місяць тому
@@mitchrils you be surprised how ineffective private company's can be
@mitchrils
@mitchrils Місяць тому
@@RoyalLegend1000 I work in the leakage department for a water company, there’s no way a water leak would be left for 17 years.
@RoyalLegend1000
@RoyalLegend1000 Місяць тому
@@mitchrils we talking about the same guys who put the whole infrastructure to shit
@BrazenBull91
@BrazenBull91 День тому
​​​@@mitchrilsand i worked at a zoo for 15 years that had a leak just outside of it by a public road, it existed before I started there and it still exists to this day. 😂 I hope you don't work for South West Water.
@Nr4747
@Nr4747 Місяць тому
Still super glad that our former mayor, Christian Ude, flatly refused to have the fresh water system in Munich, my home city, privatized when there was a big push for it. We still have some of the best tap water in Europe to this day, mostly thanks to that.
@richardharrison903
@richardharrison903 26 днів тому
Hey, if Brexit Britain is good for something, it's a lesson others can learn from about what *not* to do.
@MedievalFolkDance
@MedievalFolkDance Місяць тому
They took the CEO salary increases, insane bonuses & maxed out the shareholder dividends. Then they said they can't afford to fix the problems they caused, refused to put up the money they owe & instead (once again) stuck a bailout hand to the government.
@thecrimsondragon9744
@thecrimsondragon9744 26 днів тому
The taxpayer is paying for it. We are being scammed to high heavens. Still wondering why we don’t try the corporations, executives and corrupt politicians for treason.
@Zyphera
@Zyphera 23 дні тому
It's so sad that you give them a handout. They failed there duty and should have there contract broken. The operation should be taken back. All previous handouts should be payed back as they used the money in bad faith.
@Dreams_So_Daring
@Dreams_So_Daring Місяць тому
Because some idiot privatised public services.
@azahel542
@azahel542 Місяць тому
In today's episode of the UK trying to be quirky and doing things different from others and getting screwed over it.
@escomz
@escomz Місяць тому
As an Australian, Macquarie Bank is one of the worst banks to sell your monopolised water utility to!! They literally own a huge chunk of our speed cameras, they were the reason for the deaths caused by a Dreamworld ride years ago, they operate like an unethical Private Equity fund putting profits above all ethics! Good Luck Londers!
@Nikkska
@Nikkska 23 дні тому
>Dodgy bank buys water company >Dodgy bank gives water company lots of debt >Dodgy bank profits off the debt >?????? Seems like a satirical joke 😅
@ratking1608
@ratking1608 Місяць тому
Thatcher was actual poison
@ratking1608
@ratking1608 Місяць тому
But the gammons love her because muh falklands
@lePurpleDragon
@lePurpleDragon Місяць тому
She was half of Satan. The other half was Reagan. Together, they'd form what people call "Anti-Christ".
@user-zf8nz2kh1m
@user-zf8nz2kh1m 26 днів тому
It really has been the best thing to happen to the UK in a long time. What happens is that the majority of British people are not intelligent people and they forget about the poverty that existed before Thatcher and now they have returned to believing that the State should solve their problems.
@ThyTrueNightmare
@ThyTrueNightmare Місяць тому
The tories doing what they want when its not what the public want. nothings changed
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Місяць тому
Started failing in the late 90's who was in charge then...
@jacobmacdonagh4070
@jacobmacdonagh4070 Місяць тому
I mean if it’s not what the public want then why do the majority of them keep voting for them
@inoovator3756
@inoovator3756 Місяць тому
This is how governments have worked since the beginning of time
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Місяць тому
@@inoovator3756 I kind of disagree we used to have politicians who said "these are my values, vote for me if you agree", now politicians don't have values and adopt the whims of the day. It's one of the reasons you can't really tell Labour and the Tories apart.
@mathewfinch
@mathewfinch Місяць тому
​@SaintGerbilUK private corporations were in charge then.
@BIGDZ8346
@BIGDZ8346 Місяць тому
5:29 You're kidding, right? How tf is dumping raw sewage into public rivers not illegal? That utterly absurd for the 21st century!
@matthewhook3375
@matthewhook3375 27 днів тому
It's legal because otherwise all that sewage would be backing up into peoples' houses and overflowing out of the crappers! Fully agree that it's utterly absurd for this to be the case in the 21st Century, but that's where we are.
@CraigSimmonds
@CraigSimmonds Місяць тому
0:13 had the video playing in the background and choked on my tea at this part
@melimoo6656
@melimoo6656 Місяць тому
Anybody in Australia could have told you Macquarie Bank were mercenaries. But the UK decided to trust them to do right?!?! 🤷‍♀️
@DanielHowarth00
@DanielHowarth00 Місяць тому
They arent the millionaires factory from being nice... Just ask the people of texas who nearly froze to death a few years ago...
@escomz
@escomz Місяць тому
Exactly, Macquarie Bank has a reputation for being unethical
@markwelch3564
@markwelch3564 Місяць тому
Tories aren't exactly known for their morals, either
@footscorn
@footscorn 24 дні тому
You allow private companies to control your most important resource. Absolute madness.
@harrietwindebank6051
@harrietwindebank6051 Місяць тому
“Efficiency savings” are always medium and long term measures that are necessary for sustainable infrastructure. So companies show initial savings but then the system falls apart ten to twenty years later.
@lesleyrobertson5465
@lesleyrobertson5465 Місяць тому
?Britain?????? Scottish 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 water is owned by its people
@Mr-Foad
@Mr-Foad Місяць тому
Sick of being associated with that place all the time.
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Місяць тому
It's owned by your government who's been caught stealing from you.
@gothicgolem2947
@gothicgolem2947 Місяць тому
It does say that in the video
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Місяць тому
It's owned by the government not the people.
@lesleyrobertson5465
@lesleyrobertson5465 Місяць тому
@@SaintGerbilUK people pay taxes which pay for the water company
@SiriusXAim
@SiriusXAim Місяць тому
The level of mismanagement needed to destroy a company that sells the very essential liquid of life itself. The one utility nobody can do without, without competition.
@diverguy3556
@diverguy3556 Місяць тому
It's not mismanagement, it's being deliberately done. These companies know they can't be allowed to fail and behave as they please.
@houseslippers7732
@houseslippers7732 Місяць тому
One problem, this is about water not about beer.
@quillo2747
@quillo2747 Місяць тому
They were privatised because they were being mismanaged as state entities. They were not investing, they had no incentive to invest. They were privatised on a model where they make no money from selling water, that is sold at cost, they make money from building infrastructure, the government approves and funds that infrastructure, the companies themselves build as much as they can but its the government that approves it or not. That model was a massive improvement on every metric until the increasing demand from rapid population growth from mass immigration outpaced investment. Nationalising them won't solve the problem, we cant build infrastructure fast enough, increasing demand is the problem, reducing demand is the solution, closing the borders is a start.
@SiriusXAim
@SiriusXAim Місяць тому
@@quillo2747 And as TLDR explained, they ended up being run for profit, at the expanse of the public who is now burdenned with some of the highest energy bills in the world, highest train fares iun the world and a failing water supply system. YEah, it worked so well.... Privatizing monopolies and necessities to be run for profit instead of publicly owned has definitely made life cheaper and more reliable for brits. I mean, they pinky promised! Who would have predicted that a company would put its shareholders first and their trapped customers, forced to do business with them last?
@matthewhook3375
@matthewhook3375 27 днів тому
@@quillo2747 absolute nonsense. They weren't not investing because they had no incentive to invest - they weren't investing because the government wasn't giving them any cash to make the required investments. Also the government is not funding the construction of the infrastructure - the whole point of privatising the system was that the state refused to finance the necessary investment and wanted to rely on private capital to do so instead. Agree with you about increasing demand though, that's also another signifcant problem that needs addressing.
@caseysmith4206
@caseysmith4206 Місяць тому
The story of how Scotland avoided it is fascinating. An informal postal referendum was organised by Strathclyde Regional Council and 97% voted against, the pressure so great U.K. govt had to drop the plans
@FonFreeze
@FonFreeze Місяць тому
as I understood shareholders took out loans to pay to themselves huge bonuses and now blackmailing government if wont give more money they will just go bankrupt and shareholders will walk away with money no problem, laughing in da face.
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 Місяць тому
thats the point of neoliberalism. Profits for the shareholders, losses for the taxpayer
@useodyseeorbitchute9450
@useodyseeorbitchute9450 Місяць тому
Assuming that gov is modestly smart, instead of folding, it should wait and buy those assets from debtors in inevitable fire sale...
@han090
@han090 27 днів тому
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 While they wait, the water systems get worse and worse.
@Bayard1503
@Bayard1503 Місяць тому
WTF? Not even US has private water supply... where's the competition?
@houseslippers7732
@houseslippers7732 Місяць тому
US does in small portions.
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce Місяць тому
@@houseslippers7732 They give contracts to private companies to for example build and operate a sewage plant, which is not the same thing as the full privatisation we have here.
@jacobmacdonagh4070
@jacobmacdonagh4070 Місяць тому
And look how well that worked out in Flint, Michigan
@Bayard1503
@Bayard1503 Місяць тому
@@katrinabryce Actually that happens all over EU, it happens in my country, it was actually imposed. So the treatment plant is private but all the distribution is city owned.
@marktucker208
@marktucker208 Місяць тому
Its a brilliant system that the water companies have made for themselves. No competition, no government involvement, the people who are meant to regulate them have a revolving door to senior positions in the water companies and then once theyve bled all the profits dry the government has no choice but to bail them out while getting all the blame!
@pollutingpenguin2146
@pollutingpenguin2146 Місяць тому
Is there anything that is going well or works in the UK? Lol
@command_unit7792
@command_unit7792 Місяць тому
The Conservative party could get 0 seats in the next election...
@Abdullah_the_Palestinian
@Abdullah_the_Palestinian Місяць тому
Yes. That would be neo liberalism
@matthewparker9276
@matthewparker9276 Місяць тому
They still make decent crime dramas.
@hg82met
@hg82met Місяць тому
The rich got obscenely richer, thank you very much!
@foregone_roulette
@foregone_roulette Місяць тому
No. The UK is basically a corpse being looted by its political class
@tehdasi
@tehdasi Місяць тому
Macquarie is pronounced 'mack-quarry', and they also involved in dodgey ppp deals in Australia too.
@lykou1821
@lykou1821 Місяць тому
Imagine being in a country where it is raining constantly and not having cheap and efficient water suppy
@consultant2678
@consultant2678 26 днів тому
Reason is simple: Huge Exec Compensation + Huge Dividends to Shareholders + No Investment In Infrastructure!
@lukedinsmoreharris3068
@lukedinsmoreharris3068 Місяць тому
Thanks Thatcher! See you next tuesday!
@lePurpleDragon
@lePurpleDragon Місяць тому
... in HELL! And if hell doesn't exist, Thatcher and Reagan together could form it.
@claussenmusic
@claussenmusic Місяць тому
Privatized water is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of
@windwaker0rules
@windwaker0rules Місяць тому
6:09 I'll have you know that our former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull has major connections with that Bank.
@yian9226
@yian9226 Місяць тому
Water Companies Universities Healthcare system
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 Місяць тому
prisons trains
@quillo2747
@quillo2747 Місяць тому
All crumbling because they can't cope with the increased demand from mass immigration, 700k net last year alone. We cant build hospitals or treatment works fast enough. The universities are making a killing from foreign students tho.
@alexb5815
@alexb5815 Місяць тому
In short privatised, were not regulated properly, Australian MacGuarie refinanced to strip all assets and cash while not investing and now taxpayers will pay the price. Perfect model for all
@christopherdwyer9496
@christopherdwyer9496 Місяць тому
You failed to mention Thames water also sold off billions in land to developers that were meant for infrastructure to also pay dividends. The water companies in general were sold off too cheaply based on their valuations at the time, so in general the public have been screwed many times over by government mismanagement
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 Місяць тому
Well planned don't worry 😢😢
@scottbrick9918
@scottbrick9918 Місяць тому
I wonder what the easy solution to sewage dumping is, could it be nationalisation?
@revilokid
@revilokid Місяць тому
But that kinda is quite expensive for the country. Don’t know if we got the funds to handle it to a good standard.
@TheMajorpickle01
@TheMajorpickle01 Місяць тому
@@revilokid unfortunately the only way to nationalize within the markets is to allow it to fail, which the government can't. What is needed is a forced takeover, but that's potentially economically damaging. What the government needs to do is heavily heavily fine thames water for leaking sewage, which forces them to fix thier act or undergo liquidiation at which point the govt could probably buy it for cheap. But even then that'd be very painful during the process.
@revilokid
@revilokid Місяць тому
@@TheMajorpickle01 yeah but I mean when the government has the company. To keep it to a high/acceptable standard I don’t think it has the funds/resources to realistically achieve it.
@Croz89
@Croz89 Місяць тому
There's no easy solution, long term. The problem can essentially be fixed in two ways, the sewer system itself can be replaced to separate rainwater and sewage more effectively, that's the reason sewage dumping tends to occur when it rains. Or you can expand water treatment plants so they have much more spare capacity. Likely we'll need to do both, but the latter is less disruptive (though more expensive) since replacing sewer systems will involve a lot of streets being dug up and roads being closed all across the country.
@quillo2747
@quillo2747 Місяць тому
It would help if we weren't adding 700k people a year to our population via mass immigration. We cant build sewers and treatment works fast enough to cope.
@KimFareseed
@KimFareseed Місяць тому
5:33 And now I am starting to think of John Snow and Germ Theory. Sewage in the Thames did stick in memory.
@ruspj
@ruspj Місяць тому
A load of perfectly timed chocolate bars in the themes for the boat race would have been a great way to highlight problem of water companies dumping raw sewage.
@Lords1997
@Lords1997 Місяць тому
Public services should always be nationalized… because services aren’t meant to “make profit.” Otherwise the police would leave you a bill whenever they show up. Public goods/services bring indirect investment through economic activity.
@rickybojangles162
@rickybojangles162 Місяць тому
Water should be nationalised, full stop. 0 profit. Sell water at cost + a percentage for investment and repairs. Incredibly obvious and simple. If the government can compulsory purchase your house for infrastructure, we can 100% commandeer the water companies and say "tough luck rich shareholders, we own this now".
@bigbarry8343
@bigbarry8343 Місяць тому
imposing proportionate penalties would be sufficient deterant, they would surrender voluntarily.
@quillo2747
@quillo2747 Місяць тому
Water is sold at cost. Water companies is make no proffit by selling water, they make money by investing in infrastructure, its the government that approves and funds that infrastructure. The increasing demand for drinking water and for sewage treatment from mass immigration, 700k net people last year alone, means we cant build pipes and treatment works fast enough to cope.
@stantorren4400
@stantorren4400 Місяць тому
@@quillo2747You’re also ignoring how private water is just not a thing? Even America doesn’t have private water. You’re blaming everything BUT the water companies that actually run the water. Thames water is giving its ceo a bonus while the company is in massive debt. They’re giving hand outs to shareholders while claiming they need to raise bills. People like you are why we’re in this shit. Useful idiots who think they’re fighting something when they’re just tools
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Місяць тому
Why do all socialists start with theft before moving onto murder?
@user-zf8nz2kh1m
@user-zf8nz2kh1m 26 днів тому
The idealization you do is only done by ignorant people. Nationalizing something in the end only means increasing public spending and worsening its quality. The problem with privatization in the UK is the overregulation of the State... Because in Chile privatization works perfectly.
@user-xh3cs4ki2q
@user-xh3cs4ki2q Місяць тому
I used to work for Thames Water as supply chain analyst. They hire the cheapest contractors most of the time They dont even give employee discount.
@ihk2421
@ihk2421 Місяць тому
Were there any water suppliers that did make an effort?
@ayoub6792
@ayoub6792 Місяць тому
Privatisation was meant to yield benefits for the local population, as it aimed to enhance water and sewage systems through investments, all the while ensuring the contentment of shareholders. However, in reality, only the shareholders have found satisfaction, while water bills have been on a steady incline, debts have mounted, and the essential investments required for maintenance and improvement of the systems have been sorely lacking. Thames Water stands as a prime example of an organisation mired in chaos and disorder. It is now audaciously requesting a bailout and seeking empathy from the UK government. Why do politicians and companies keep getting away with their lies without any accountability and the general public has to pay for their actions?!
@allyi302
@allyi302 Місяць тому
*England's water companies.
@jayfeather965
@jayfeather965 Місяць тому
At the beginning when he says “throw your Cox in the water” for anyone who doesn’t know a Cox is the name for the leader of the boat
@moos5221
@moos5221 26 днів тому
TIL we (Germany) are losing 5% water due to leakage. I'm shocked, hope this will get fixed asap, that's way more then it should be!
@corz299
@corz299 Місяць тому
Thatcher was the devil.
@lePurpleDragon
@lePurpleDragon Місяць тому
Half of Satan. The other half was Reagan. Too bad it took people over 40 years to start to get the hint.
@user-zf8nz2kh1m
@user-zf8nz2kh1m 26 днів тому
She truly has been the best thing to happen to the UK in a long time. What happens is that the majority of British people are not intelligent people and they forget about the poverty that existed before Thatcher and now they have returned to believing that the State should solve their problems.
@adamross6474
@adamross6474 Місяць тому
Seems that Joe Lycett really can make a change and bring things to the publics attention
@lw1zfog
@lw1zfog Місяць тому
the corporations want ‘water wars’. mr nestle told you all that access to the most basic of resources is in no way to be considered a ‘human right’. get up to speed people !
@Marozi1
@Marozi1 Місяць тому
Greed! - Shareholders are too interested in filling their pockets than investing in infrastructure.
@Srindal4657
@Srindal4657 Місяць тому
If we can just make public food and water, then there is hope for a future
@mathyeuxsommet3119
@mathyeuxsommet3119 Місяць тому
Wtf those public food mean ??
@Srindal4657
@Srindal4657 Місяць тому
@@mathyeuxsommet3119 nationalised
@mathyeuxsommet3119
@mathyeuxsommet3119 Місяць тому
@@Srindal4657 You want to Nations all food production and distribution ? To do what exactly ? If so I beg you to understand economics above some basic superficial level.
@Srindal4657
@Srindal4657 Місяць тому
@@mathyeuxsommet3119 to support people we've invested heavily in from education. So that we don't waste more money
@Nightzo
@Nightzo Місяць тому
@@mathyeuxsommet3119 I think he means he wants communism where the government rations out food
@jacobmacdonagh4070
@jacobmacdonagh4070 Місяць тому
The problem is that nothing about the water market in the UK is private, it’s the same with our rail. Just because it’s not nationalised, doesn’t mean it’s private, it’s just a crony mixed economy where private companies trade on a public system. The fact is you are not allowed to compete with providers, they have a govt granted monopoly, and selling off all the water provision contracts in one go overnight is gonna create monopolies because the market didn’t grow organically, it went from nationalisation to not overnight. Don’t forget nationalisation is the biggest monopoly there is. The water itself is not private so there is no incentive to look after it and no way to compete on the same area as a competitor is not allowed to build new water infrastructure or trade on water rights as the govt still own the water. Nothing about it is a private market so if course it won’t operate efficiently
@han090
@han090 27 днів тому
Did you not watch the video? The profits were most definitely private. A monopoly existing doesn't make something not private. Please google what a private company is.
@JoshMathewsofficial
@JoshMathewsofficial Місяць тому
It’s utterly nuts that water has become a for profit resource.
@arnoldschonberg9598
@arnoldschonberg9598 Місяць тому
Thanks, Thatcher.
@autarchprinceps
@autarchprinceps Місяць тому
One of the cleanest water supply systems? I’ve been in England recently. There is chlorine in your water. You do realise in many other places you can actually drink tab water and they still don’t need that
@izaakbrummitt1992
@izaakbrummitt1992 Місяць тому
Unless you drink water from a lab there is chlorine in ALL drinking water?
@autarchprinceps
@autarchprinceps Місяць тому
@@izaakbrummitt1992 I was talking about chlorinating, as in adding chlorine to it, significantly enough that it smells like pool water. And no many other countries don’t do that, because they don’t need to. In Germany for example this is only done in case of an temporary environmental issue, like flooding, in which case it’s worth an environmental warning across cellular broadcast, and honestly the one time I saw that, it subjectively at least still didn’t smell as chlorinated, as „normal“ water in England does. Looking it up online, at the very least Switzerland and Netherlands don’t regularly chlorinate their tab water either, because it is actually clean. I’m sure with chlorination England may reach similar „cleanliness“ in terms of bacteria present, but it doesn’t really count, does it.
@izaakbrummitt1992
@izaakbrummitt1992 Місяць тому
@@autarchprinceps fair enough, I’ve lived in Germany and England. Some of the water in both areas I’ve lived have been foul. Best tap water I’ve ever drank was in Scotland.
@quillo2747
@quillo2747 Місяць тому
Chlorine kills bad things like cryptosporidum bacteria. Water abstracted from reservoirs and rivers requires treatment, filters and either chlorine or UV but uv is very expensive. Unless you only take from boreholes where just a filter will do as thers no risk of bacteria.
@autarchprinceps
@autarchprinceps 26 днів тому
@@quillo2747 And yet other countries have cleaner water without the need to add chlorine in the water regularly. Again I get it, chlorine is preferable to getting diseases from the water, obviously, but many other highly developed countries have neither, so clearly the UK is doing something wrong here. And no, water costs as a result aren't a big concern either. They're a drop in the bucket in comparison to other house related costs. Most are for the treatment after leaving your house anyway, not for getting the clean water to your house.
@NuSpirit_
@NuSpirit_ Місяць тому
1:42 - isn't Czechia also democratic? And I think many if not all water providers are private.
@nothereandthereanywhere
@nothereandthereanywhere Місяць тому
The Czech Republic has its waters mostly in the ownership of the local authority(towns), in other words, it is national ownership.
@tomthumb2361
@tomthumb2361 Місяць тому
They still pay out to shareholders. Weird.
@wetbadger2
@wetbadger2 Місяць тому
How’s it legal to take out a loan and give the money to shareholders?
@mathyeuxsommet3119
@mathyeuxsommet3119 Місяць тому
It's probably an bureaucratic mess to do some companies might need that if they to keep a steady flow of investment,long term It's almost always a bad idea.
@peterwait641
@peterwait641 Місяць тому
They also avoid tax with debt repayments reducing it!
@DanielHowarth00
@DanielHowarth00 Місяць тому
Because they aren't directly transferring the money across the balance sheet, so it would be near impossible to legislate around. Loan comes in, end of next quarter raise dividends out of operational cash, no one knows better
@peterwait641
@peterwait641 Місяць тому
@@DanielHowarth00 You could create a law requiring Government approval for loans in water industry.
@olorin3815
@olorin3815 Місяць тому
you could also ban dividends or severely limit it if company is in debt, sure it would make it harder to get investments maybe but it would also make original investors not fk around and actually make sure they manage the company properly instead of just siphoning money from their monopoly
@AngryAmericanWizard
@AngryAmericanWizard Місяць тому
American here, I don't know what you mean by the UK and Chili are tte only nations to privatize their water. American Water a private company manages water for my city. Ours is also private.
@jerrywood4508
@jerrywood4508 Місяць тому
Water and sewer service is locally controlled in the US. That means that local government regulates the companies. So voters have an easy way to express their disapproval if the service is poor. In Texas there are many tiny private water companies, and some are horrible. But, thanks to our legislature, if a local government wants to take them over, they have to pay what the private utility says they are worth. Cronyism is not a problem limited to the UK.
@l.j.turner185
@l.j.turner185 Місяць тому
TLDR you seem to have an issue with spam comments
@wpjohn91
@wpjohn91 Місяць тому
Any medium channel now had these semi nude bots posting the minute the vid drops
@user-gj8kf7yt4g
@user-gj8kf7yt4g Місяць тому
Me who hasn't seen anything:
@airdee
@airdee Місяць тому
means of production should never be privatized
@jb-r9717
@jb-r9717 Місяць тому
Glad to ese you again hosting the videos Ben.
@perjohanaxell9862
@perjohanaxell9862 Місяць тому
Looking at it from the outside this is so mindbogglingly strange. How could anyone think that this would work? I think the best would be to let them declare bankruptcy and then nationalise the companies again. The UK is alone in this for a very good reason.
@robertjohn6585
@robertjohn6585 Місяць тому
The tories sold it off and screwed it up. there you go, save you ten minutes.
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Місяць тому
It started failing in the late 90's, who was in charge then?
@juancarlosalonso5664
@juancarlosalonso5664 Місяць тому
SaintGerbilUK The private companies that now owned the utility, that’s who, Thatcher left a lot of lasting damage through her policies.
@SaintGerbilUK
@SaintGerbilUK Місяць тому
@@juancarlosalonso5664 I guess we should have left it in public hands which would not have invested at all. As said in the video.
@robertjohn6585
@robertjohn6585 Місяць тому
@@SaintGerbilUK the government would have only invested the bare minimum in maintenance sure, but at least it wouldn't have been bled dry and taken to it's breaking point by investors who couldn't care less about the public. Also noticed you dodged replying to me... guess it was just easier to deflect what he/she said than come up with an actual argument other than "yeah but government-run wouldn't be perfect either!".
@anteep4900
@anteep4900 Місяць тому
@@SaintGerbilUK sorry i don't follow, the water companies are privately run?
@mrfr87
@mrfr87 Місяць тому
What’s the point of privatising anything which can’t have competition. It’s a Monopoly.
@han090
@han090 27 днів тому
The point is that the government doesn't have to pay for it. It makes them look good until the consequences start happening.
@lexslate2476
@lexslate2476 26 днів тому
Ah, privatization. Ideal if your goal is to make an important public service perform much worse while becoming more expensive.
@MrVeryfrost
@MrVeryfrost Місяць тому
How can they pay billions in dividends and then go bankrupt? Who made laws permissible to it?
@thevis5465
@thevis5465 Місяць тому
Britains water isn't private. ENGLANDS is. Scottish water is PUBLIC and we have none of these problems.
@user-zf8nz2kh1m
@user-zf8nz2kh1m 26 днів тому
Scotland is a little shit that lives subsidized by England. London alone has almost twice as many inhabitants as all of Scotland. Furthermore, water never belongs to the people, it always belongs to the State, only its administration is privatized.
@GG-hi5if
@GG-hi5if 24 дні тому
Scotland is part of britain you melt
@thevis5465
@thevis5465 24 дні тому
@@GG-hi5if I know... He said Britains water is private, no it isn't. Only Englands is...
@GG-hi5if
@GG-hi5if 23 дні тому
@@thevis5465 /cope
@geehammer1511
@geehammer1511 9 днів тому
Can you not just accept that Scotland isn't always included when someone says Britain? I get that you despise being a part of the United Kingdom but I think you're reading into the word Britain a bit too much here dude.
@Rleatfitness
@Rleatfitness Місяць тому
So in short they prioritised paying shareholders rather than reinvesting back into infrastructure
@keanusolan2844
@keanusolan2844 Місяць тому
The very idea of a private company (and therefore private and/or foreign interests) owning critical infrastructure like power and water has always puzzled me. Thatcher will always have a mixed legacy, having made some difficult and necessary albeit painful decisions. However, this will have to be chalked up as one of her more terrible decisions
@quillo2747
@quillo2747 Місяць тому
Thers an argument for nationalising water and power to a degree, mainly so it doesn't end up being owned by foreign nations. But thers far more cases of nationalised industries collapsing than private. Take south Africa, they were the most prosperous cou try in Africa, they nationalised energy, now they have rolling blackouts. The government cant fill in potholes, why do you think they could manage the nations energy supply?
@joncurry9829
@joncurry9829 Місяць тому
I would argue that water privatisation is not only abhorrent, it is a violation of international law. Access to water and sanitation are UN recognised human rights. If a government makes it so you can be denied drinking water if you have no money, it is a violation of that right.
@userxyz64
@userxyz64 Місяць тому
Just make private companies comply with their obligations to maintain. They will soon sell back to state.
@johnforbes8282
@johnforbes8282 Місяць тому
I saw a programme recently saying that way before 1989. in the 18th or maybe 17th century when they built the London sewerage system they, the constructors had a choice of 2 water systems. one was all the water was filtered into the same pipes, and the second thing was that the water system was supposed to use 2 sets of pipes & not just one. This would of filtered the water into dirty water & clean water elements. iirc.
@felipeyanez7786
@felipeyanez7786 27 днів тому
Thatcher did was ideal during her time, so now we have monopoly, so now go back to the government. It is very simple.
@shorunqualtec2070
@shorunqualtec2070 Місяць тому
"why did Thatcher do X?" Can always be answered with "greed".
@aviatorsound914
@aviatorsound914 Місяць тому
Instead of it being privatized, these water company should be managed by local officials or divided up into regional water divisions managed by the government.
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