Why did we struggle in high-speed corners? | 2024 Saudi Arabian GP F1 Akkodis Race Debrief

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Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team

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Taking the positives from a challenging weekend in Jeddah 💪
Shov talks through why we struggled in the fast corners, why we didn't double stack during the Safety Car and much more in our @Akkodis Race Debrief
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@helix99999
@helix99999 Місяць тому
mercedes version of ferrari's "we're checking"
@calebalxndr
@calebalxndr Місяць тому
3 years of checking smh
@johnw.2869
@johnw.2869 Місяць тому
The real kicker seems to be that in one of these other videos, Red Bull took last year's Mercedes chassis and made it better and is leading the field with it this year.
@dianamaioru497
@dianamaioru497 Місяць тому
@@johnw.2869 RedBull does NOT have anything like Mercedes's chassis from last year dude.
@ryancuda45
@ryancuda45 Місяць тому
@@dianamaioru497 they just made a few things that look merc to tease them lol
@99cya
@99cya Місяць тому
"we try to understand" - thats the theme for the last 2 years. still the same in 3rd it seems.
@schizoYouTube
@schizoYouTube Місяць тому
Every race debrief: "So we're trying to understand why that is."
@igorlh44
@igorlh44 Місяць тому
German/British version of «we’re checking”
@Bestruction
@Bestruction Місяць тому
Right. Do you think Red bull has so much to figure out? Even Ferrari seem clear of merc
@Jakiirr
@Jakiirr Місяць тому
There's something that's just not been discovered yet by Mercedes
@budokpantai
@budokpantai Місяць тому
Unpopular opinion, Merc probably don't care about this year car at all. W15 probably is just a testing bed for them to understand as much as they can for 2026.
@darkwa456
@darkwa456 Місяць тому
3 years and 3 cars later and there still a problem with bounceing
@mesterorange8181
@mesterorange8181 Місяць тому
Yes though this is a different bouncing, yet, bouncing
@darshang1262
@darshang1262 Місяць тому
Ferrari:-we are checking Mercedes:-trying to understand
@hexagonal707
@hexagonal707 Місяць тому
Things to take note of: 1) Investigate if someone is getting paid in your simulator team from competitor team to purposely give incorrect data to mess up the car😂😂😂 2) Time to change your simulator😂
@Wiggy321
@Wiggy321 Місяць тому
You never know....
@pedrammaymand3195
@pedrammaymand3195 Місяць тому
They need to hire Joe Pesci.
@michaelkaluzi787
@michaelkaluzi787 Місяць тому
🤣🤣🤣
@B88_f
@B88_f Місяць тому
We all know how much red bull hate Mercedes, it’s not even trivial it’s radical! I wouldn’t even put it past them 😅
@aluwanikwatsi9120
@aluwanikwatsi9120 Місяць тому
And if there is something wrong with Merc simulator we can all apologize to Elliott bcoz that zero concept was going to work 😅
@kumbainejackson4126
@kumbainejackson4126 Місяць тому
I think that redbulls could win any race on hard tires only
@butterflyblueshorts
@butterflyblueshorts Місяць тому
you could be onto something there. A lot of feedback from the other cars setup that redbull know how to dial out id think.
@M4NA5
@M4NA5 Місяць тому
I think we will see Ferrari and McLaren win a race this season. Not sure about Mercedes though, maybe George could do it (again).
@joshuaokunola6261
@joshuaokunola6261 Місяць тому
​@M4NA5 hamilton was close to winning last year, though. It shows u r just a George fan boy
@Rohan_TD
@Rohan_TD Місяць тому
@@joshuaokunola6261bro chill he is talking about Lewis not being as comfortable as Russel in this car . Long way to go .
@babu7141
@babu7141 Місяць тому
Quite possibly!
@armandomejiacifuentes7576
@armandomejiacifuentes7576 Місяць тому
Its painful to be a Mercedes fan nowadays, but i still believe in the team. I'm hopeful that we will recover from these excruciating three years. The issues with the simulator need to be solved asap.
@therealBocaStudios
@therealBocaStudios Місяць тому
Toto is getting old and it shows, the team cannot function properly in weekend when Toto isn’t there, t is a leadership problem. Merc is one of the richest teams and Toto spend more time focused on keeping the sport from growing last year than he did on his own team. Toto is completely the issue..I hope you understand that
@PeterMarais-wp6me
@PeterMarais-wp6me Місяць тому
I just want i'm an absolute HUGE FAN! Of these Race Debriefs
@munnabhai-il6bk
@munnabhai-il6bk Місяць тому
Love this new debriefs post races , thanks 😍😍
@TotallyFlux
@TotallyFlux Місяць тому
I love this new style of the race debriefs
@bmwracer67
@bmwracer67 Місяць тому
Always some great insight from these videos. Great stuff.
@Blue_Pumpkin
@Blue_Pumpkin Місяць тому
Keep at it team. You'll get there❤ 🙌
@tetra3000
@tetra3000 Місяць тому
Last year in Australia you qualified on the front row and finished P2. I cant even see you guys being on the 3rd row after what we have seen in the first 2 races. You have got to add rear downforce on the car without bouncing. Most teams have already figured this out and I don't understand why you haven't after 2 years of data collected and analysed.
@Letsplayminecraft1
@Letsplayminecraft1 Місяць тому
On to the next! ❤ ❤
@obez42
@obez42 Місяць тому
This is an excellent show! Well done Mercedes! Would be nice if other teams would do same as its very informative and helps our understanding and enjoyment of F1
@f1greenlight
@f1greenlight Місяць тому
Thanks Team. Keep trying.
@njgrplr2007
@njgrplr2007 Місяць тому
When your plan of action is to design experiments to diagnose the problem(s), your season is in BIG trouble.
@mods4986
@mods4986 Місяць тому
I can sum up these 12 minutes for anyone else. "They dont know"
@ThroughJermainesLens
@ThroughJermainesLens Місяць тому
Oh GG Jodi!!!! I remember the days you did voice overs to now this!!! Keep up the grind Jodi!!!
@lenriew2892
@lenriew2892 Місяць тому
Man the struggle is real 😔 how are you going to turn it around before it's too late 😢 it might not be a win for now but 6th and 9th ain't gonna cut it 🤬
@Andy4495
@Andy4495 Місяць тому
Let's go merc I believe in ya
@AZBCDE
@AZBCDE Місяць тому
Drink your COPIUM
@xXgaucho
@xXgaucho Місяць тому
I have something to sell you then!
@harveyspecter1653
@harveyspecter1653 Місяць тому
Thanks for the vid. The new studio looks nice. Good luck on finding the performance issues. The virtual/real world correlation problem is quite worrying though. Maybe just get the W11 back from the stable. 😀
@TheK5054
@TheK5054 Місяць тому
Fingers crossed for Australia, team! We can do it
@AZBCDE
@AZBCDE Місяць тому
COPIUM IS REAL
@Explorer_1997
@Explorer_1997 Місяць тому
U can’t do shi$t 😂
@sbrader97
@sbrader97 Місяць тому
Australia is also high speed I doubt there gonna make a turn around that quickly its gonna take some upgrades to fix it
@boost800
@boost800 Місяць тому
😆😆will be same, slow and disappointing
@decemberiita4309
@decemberiita4309 Місяць тому
Give up bro
@irradiatedbean2375
@irradiatedbean2375 Місяць тому
Keep at it, “still we rise”
@dshepherd35
@dshepherd35 Місяць тому
Dam understanding. the high speed corners needs your attention. 14 days. Yal have LH going out bad. Heard this for 3years Shov
@vincentcollins1017
@vincentcollins1017 Місяць тому
Whats happening to this team now proves that Brawn and Nikii held this team up Toto's leadership is horrendous
@steers3686
@steers3686 Місяць тому
👏
@the_lost_navigator7266
@the_lost_navigator7266 Місяць тому
The tone of some of these comments, you would think they were talking about Alpine...
@7BD273
@7BD273 Місяць тому
Keep pushing team! We're with you
@Lumi-OF-Model
@Lumi-OF-Model Місяць тому
I have one question Why is it that in every race the team says that Russell had the better setup and lewis' setup didn't work Why dont both the drivers have the same setup.. Also Why does the car still bounce so much even though the issue was thought to be resolved Thnx again big fan..
@WorldFormula1
@WorldFormula1 Місяць тому
Because not all drivers want the same setup. They have diferent driving styles and one setup may be “better” for one driver and another driver would find it “worse”. In that case, probably the car worked better with Russell’s setup than lewis setup. Just my theory…
@agux0
@agux0 Місяць тому
The drivers have the freedom to adjust the setup to their liking in hopes of getting a better outcome, for example lewis mentioned in the race before that he was experimenting with a different setup to george & that it just didn’t work out for him
@mesterorange8181
@mesterorange8181 Місяць тому
Heres the best answer possible: Lewis is a driver that likes to play with the setups and that usually gives him an edge over the others, BUT with these unstable cars Lewis just cant work his Magic and a more normal (simulator) in line setup seems to be better. This info comes from James Vowles, the Ex toto right hand that talked in a podcast about how Lewis Drives.
@helix99999
@helix99999 Місяць тому
lewis already lost hope on mercedes, he is not gonna work as hard anymore since its his last year
@Andy4495
@Andy4495 Місяць тому
We copying questions now bro??
@a.u.b1
@a.u.b1 Місяць тому
The set up of the race debrief looks nice
@user-dy2nk8fy6d
@user-dy2nk8fy6d Місяць тому
I like this explanation👍🏻
@willdreon9558
@willdreon9558 Місяць тому
The Mercedes Race Debrief and Vowles Verdict. 👏
@Ivan_am8
@Ivan_am8 Місяць тому
Buen video, como siempre
@patricktho6546
@patricktho6546 Місяць тому
thank you for not forcing the subtitles on us. It is way less distracting from the mimik etc for me
@j.tchago5382
@j.tchago5382 Місяць тому
It’ll be interesting to see you navigate these early gremlins and hopefully, get on top of them. Let’s enjoy the journey and it’s pitfalls !💪
@manu-tonyo9654
@manu-tonyo9654 Місяць тому
3 days late but I still love you :)
@brandonmacon-ellis6819
@brandonmacon-ellis6819 Місяць тому
the rb20 at 2019 2020 speed already is insane
@BOPE6
@BOPE6 Місяць тому
W13 W14 now W15, The Frankenstein lives on for another year..
@rurikmckaiser543
@rurikmckaiser543 Місяць тому
I love these comments! It is really awesome!!!!
@ExpertYouTubeCommentator
@ExpertYouTubeCommentator Місяць тому
struggling this hard for 3 yrs for a top team is crazy, i do not have any more hope! LH is really the only reason I supported this team...FORZA FERRARI
@mvmc1607
@mvmc1607 Місяць тому
How long will Mercedes be testing? until 2089?
@ruimssousa
@ruimssousa Місяць тому
In a double stacking, and if there is a queue of cars entering the pit. Is there room in the pit for the first car to move forward a little, while waiting for an opening in the queue, giving the second car space to change tires?
@kalin20071
@kalin20071 Місяць тому
Guys thank you for giving the rivals a fare advantage in first two races in order to keep them in the game. And now we are ready to win around 20 of the races to the rest of the season. 😅 The other will be so surprised that they will never recover.
@steers3686
@steers3686 Місяць тому
Lmao
@Darren-4026
@Darren-4026 Місяць тому
Love your optimism 😉
@sarthakmohanty997
@sarthakmohanty997 Місяць тому
I want to smoke what you're smoking
@tHebUm18
@tHebUm18 Місяць тому
Fancy team-themed shoes.
@BastianMr74
@BastianMr74 Місяць тому
Wake up call! More than 2000 people working for you and you cannot fix those issues for 3 years? You need to hire new members, you have resources, you have everything. It's so painful to be a Merc fan nowadays... After every single GP I read, "We learned so much about the car today", what??? Lewis said many times that the rear of the car is the biggest problem, it seems that all you did during the winter was the development of the front wing.
@englishrichards3727
@englishrichards3727 Місяць тому
3 years later and they still have no idea or understand what they built!!!
@dwnxx4974
@dwnxx4974 Місяць тому
"we're working hard to try and understand-" thats all I need to hear, see yall in 2026
@romor777
@romor777 Місяць тому
Mercedes should ask for technical advice from Gordon Murray's company, he is a master of ground effects, like Red Bull's Adrian Newey. Ferrari is advised by Rory Byrne, another master of aerodynamics and ground effects. This new W15 car needs a lot of improvements, it needs to have efficient floor downforce, good tire management and conservation, better cooling to avoid the embarrassment of the Bahrain and Australian GPs, less drag and more speed on straights, better stability and speed in high, medium and low curves, more traction and mechanical grip when entering and exiting curves, lower center of gravity, better stability in curves. More power and reliability from the PU, especially from the ERS and MGU-K, MGH and Turbo.
@aitanmulti_mediagroup7723
@aitanmulti_mediagroup7723 Місяць тому
For the 1st time this past race, found myself switching off and not listening to anything Formula 1. Never thought this day would come... I feel so sorry for Lewis
@makisan2596
@makisan2596 Місяць тому
Cant wait for cultLH to leave the team and their fake form of 'support'
@DirtPvP
@DirtPvP Місяць тому
He had years of being in the best car by miles, Lewis has been gifted enough
@makisan2596
@makisan2596 Місяць тому
@@Ben_Gunner oh i supported LH since the start, but you cult members treat him like some messiah that can never do any wrong to the point of annyoing every other fan base.
@joshuaokunola6261
@joshuaokunola6261 Місяць тому
​@makisan2596 Yeah, we are leaving. It's not a secret 😅
@ibracadabra8066
@ibracadabra8066 Місяць тому
Great explanations! Keep it up Merc💪💪 One day we'll be back on top🔝
@cbailey3728
@cbailey3728 Місяць тому
It seems clear that the team are having to make more compromises in setup than Red Bull or Ferrari due to a fundamental lack of stability, particularly in the rear. That tells me that this is going to be a season of 'get the best from it', rather than truly competing at the front.
@Wiggy321
@Wiggy321 Місяць тому
That answer to the high speed question with regards to Lewis, the answer tells me MB is still searching for speed. The car isn't fast enough.
@therealBocaStudios
@therealBocaStudios Місяць тому
Speed isn’t the issue, it’s balance. It’s always balance. It’s not the 1950’s
@alecbrown66
@alecbrown66 Місяць тому
Hi guys. Am sad for you after Australia. I am seriously wondering if your cfd/set up woes, an instabilities and oddness in grip and speed from fp to race day, could be due to air density or humidity affecting the aero and grip? Is very hot dry air that isn't very dense or strong, and cool humid air making being stronger, a big part of your setup and speed randomness so far?
@calebalxndr
@calebalxndr Місяць тому
Atleast the pit stops have been decent this year🙏🏽
@hamza-chaudhry
@hamza-chaudhry Місяць тому
12:20 'Nando' is what some people refer to Fernando Alonso as
@manungneer561
@manungneer561 Місяць тому
Keep fighting Merc! I stick with my team, winning or not!
@lenfreeman6958
@lenfreeman6958 Місяць тому
Just seems like whenever they try to go to the ride height that can compete they bounce to high heaven. I think they need to make the floor and overall aero package more stable at lower ride heights. Ie redbull ferrari
@mesterorange8181
@mesterorange8181 Місяць тому
Thats what they been trying to do
@lenfreeman6958
@lenfreeman6958 Місяць тому
@@mesterorange8181 that’s what I’m trying to imply, a team of there stature shouldn’t be struggling this bad. Something has to be wrong
@yco67
@yco67 Місяць тому
on where do we ask questions might be considered to be answered for the next race?
@maglinantmesothelioma
@maglinantmesothelioma Місяць тому
we were slower than alpine in the fast corners while max is almost full throttling through
@Darren-4026
@Darren-4026 Місяць тому
Truth is Newey has made such a difference with his knowledge of aero dynamics no one can catch 33
@iamskipper
@iamskipper Місяць тому
Given if they got a free pit spot for every 10 laps on soft tyres, dont think they can make up to catch the RBs.
@KimJongsMom
@KimJongsMom Місяць тому
you didn't struggle, newey just excelled
@mesterorange8181
@mesterorange8181 Місяць тому
Still We Rise Guys!!!!! LETS HUNT THE COMPETITION DOWN!
@malvinelpinnoy
@malvinelpinnoy Місяць тому
Both cars were slow in S1 even during Practice tests. It's exactly what happened on track! 😫
@aluwanikwatsi9120
@aluwanikwatsi9120 Місяць тому
Am happy with pitstops
@sb-rd8oc
@sb-rd8oc Місяць тому
Lets patiently wait for 2026 😢
@aluwanikwatsi9120
@aluwanikwatsi9120 Місяць тому
This reg won't change 😊
@muhammadazri7631
@muhammadazri7631 Місяць тому
Changing new concepts while others had 2 years advantage and still able to score points is still outstanding. However i don't think waiting for a safety car incorporated in the race strategy is a good idea
@fabianjrilimbi2253
@fabianjrilimbi2253 Місяць тому
Ok let's see
@user-nk8dm7rj6h
@user-nk8dm7rj6h Місяць тому
turn up the engine mode to the highest mode.
@user-je5dn3cp6f
@user-je5dn3cp6f Місяць тому
we can do it
@kiyanjasulah
@kiyanjasulah Місяць тому
Simply put that car is still a long way off. Because now we can only look forward to race tracks that favour the car and that's not the way to win races and later on champions.
@lawless8723
@lawless8723 Місяць тому
who is in charge of the sim and why is it that numbers are being fudged 2 years running.. something doesn't make sense
@mahlatsenkgoeng1255
@mahlatsenkgoeng1255 Місяць тому
It's going to be a long year. 😢. Toes crossed now.
@tomlandry932
@tomlandry932 Місяць тому
😅🤣
@omgabear
@omgabear Місяць тому
Working hard for 3 years now, p3 or p4 constructors this year?
@d.b.cooper1
@d.b.cooper1 Місяць тому
Lol I hope this stuff is exempt from the budget cap cause why change the format? It was nice & simple before, this whole studio is a bit of an overkill what a presenter just for questions. Simplicity is key.
@benijahosias9959
@benijahosias9959 Місяць тому
Good evening . I have relevant ideas that I believe can greatly improve the problem of low speed in corners, increase the speed in a straight line as well as the stability of the car. I would like to share them with you if you wish. I have them in the form of drawings accompanied by explanations. It’s a huge joy for me. Courage for the future.
@eblast105
@eblast105 Місяць тому
Just listen to the engine tone/speed on the straight. Merc’s engine with drs open sounds like it’s ran out of hp and Redbulls engine with drs open sounds like it’s free to rev to any speed it wants. This is a clear case of how much the redbull unloads the chassis with the drs wide open and until they figure this out they’re not going forward.
@MeltingRubberZ28
@MeltingRubberZ28 Місяць тому
Max used DRS like 4x that race
@Alejandro00710
@Alejandro00710 Місяць тому
All it's about learning, years of learning and none improvement 😒😒
@Isweartolucifer
@Isweartolucifer Місяць тому
*Upgrades needed at speed of light faulty sim maybe?*
@timshearer5589
@timshearer5589 Місяць тому
I miss the factory/design studio
@amc657
@amc657 Місяць тому
We lost confidence in Mercedes.i can't wait to move house😊
@TheSamertannous
@TheSamertannous Місяць тому
Can you please choose the hard questions. We are dying here. Give us anything to hope for
@Armada8589
@Armada8589 Місяць тому
wise move by Lewis.
@BenZ_AMGF1-44
@BenZ_AMGF1-44 Місяць тому
lets see
@denwyngovender9168
@denwyngovender9168 Місяць тому
Guys please sort out the car, I need Lewis to challenge Max again. Give Lewis a proper send off. Find the magic bullet🙏
@sanjeevknight
@sanjeevknight Місяць тому
Guys get the act together
@1302shaun
@1302shaun Місяць тому
this week?,, Been doing it for two years now.
@Nahor94
@Nahor94 Місяць тому
You guys are gonna struggle till the next regs change, so keep it.
@phirozecontractor6905
@phirozecontractor6905 Місяць тому
Seriously guys!! Can’t bear to watch us getting plummeted week after week. 😢
@MeRacko
@MeRacko Місяць тому
yeah i would
@mariohajj9458
@mariohajj9458 Місяць тому
Where is James Alison?
@scgordy1212
@scgordy1212 Місяць тому
I still want to believe 😢 Tifosi 2.0
@Milan0Thapa
@Milan0Thapa Місяць тому
I'm team Merc in F1 forever but I don't feel enthusiastic for the foreseeable future...
@lenfreeman6958
@lenfreeman6958 Місяць тому
I think Mercedes problem is there floor, they can’t run it at the correct ride height. Look at the entrances to all other teams compared to Mercedes. They’re all more open allowing more air
@tobyray4941
@tobyray4941 Місяць тому
" and the Australian Grand Prix winner is Max Ves...." jus wait for it 😢
@hamza-chaudhry
@hamza-chaudhry Місяць тому
Ver: 6:35 6:39 6:51 7:03 7:12 7:20 7:51 8:17 9:53 9:59
@techiist
@techiist Місяць тому
Nando Lorris!
@byrdbl
@byrdbl Місяць тому
There’s a lot of “what we didn’t know.” Why not go aggressive with the strategy one race just to see how it turns out?
@mesterorange8181
@mesterorange8181 Місяць тому
For real, we aint got the pace, lets risk it.
@joshuaokunola6261
@joshuaokunola6261 Місяць тому
That's what hamilton is trying to doing
@Shea-austin
@Shea-austin Місяць тому
Time to change the underfloor
@mesterorange8181
@mesterorange8181 Місяць тому
Its feels like, looks like once again the problem is on the suspension
@Shea-austin
@Shea-austin Місяць тому
@@mesterorange8181It's the floor, the suspension be set too stiff is considered a setup problem, but the bouncing really means that underfloor isn't producing the downforce consistently
@Dalisu87
@Dalisu87 Місяць тому
My god this is soooo frustrating
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