Why Is this the BEST SELLING Sleeping Pad on Amazon? SleepingO Sleeping Pad Mat

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In this Episode of TOGR, Luke is trying to figure out why this mediocre sleeping pad is the BEST SELLING air mat on Amazon.
This is the SleepingO Sleeping Pad and the amount of BS surrounding this product is INSANE!
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SleepingO Sleeping Pad - Agenda Free Review
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Price : $40
This is the best selling backpacking sleeping pad on the market today; I got this in a few days ago, have spent one night out with it and these are my thoughts and impressions so far.
Weight : 14.2oz
20D Nylon
Dimensions :
11”x 3.5” stored
74” tall x 22” wide tapers to less than 12” at the foot
Company claims 75” x 23” - a little generous
Company claims 2” of cushion but that’s generous as well. 2” of cushion in spots
Features :
2" THICK SLEEP SUPPORT! YOU WILL LOVE THIS SLEEPING PAD!
Want to sleep comfortably anywhere? No need to suffer with a cheap flimsy short outdoor sleeping pad! This quality portable camping mat pad is perfect. Super sturdy and extremely comfortable. Great for any sleep position.
WEIGHS ONLY [14.5 OZ] AND PACKS DOWN TO THE SIZE OF THIN WATER BOTTLE - PERFECT FOR A BACKPACKING SLEEPING PAD! No worrying about room in your backpack No backaches due to heavy weight very convenient to carry. You’ll wish you found this years ago Comes with a sleek storage pouch.
THIS TOUGH DURABLE LARGE COMFY SLEEPING PAD FEATURES A LIFETIME WARRANTY! - Economically and practically efficient With an impressive size blown up of 75 X 23 this camping mattress pad, will give you the comfort you need.
TEAR RESISTANT - HEAVY DUTY RIPSTOP NYLON FABRIC - This lightweight sleeping pad is made of super strong waterproof and camping grade ripstop nylon fabric With a impressive 20 denier thickness used only for the strongest camping equipment designed to last a lifetime in the most severe conditions.
HASSLE-FREE LIFETIME REPLACEMENT - NO NEED TO RETURN! We take pride in our perfect customer service record on Amazon, and we promise to treat you like family - even for gifts! In addition to our lifetime replacement, if you aren't happy with your purchase, we will simply refund your money - no questions asked - just let the reviews speak for themselves!
Impressions :
No issues with quality that I can see
Good inflation valve
Easy to inflate
Easy to release air
Good form factor, about the size of a bottle of water
I like the green color
Good weight
Size is good for someone who is around 6” tall. Taller individuals should look elsewhere
It’s not very wide and your shoulders may not fit fully on the pad
Pad is comfortable when laying flat on your back or your stomach. Not comfortable for side sleepers. Generally side sleepers need a pad that offers at least 3” of cushion to be comfortable
2” of cushion is inconsistent and you can easily come into contact with the ground.
Good warranty
Fair price -
Not unique : this pad is not unique in any sort of way and is what is referred to as a re-label product. If you go looking, you will find a handful of companies who all over the exact same product; the only difference being the label and logo. What you have is a single manufacturer who is making the pad for everyone.
I have a review for one of these relabeled products already and that is the Outdoorsmanlab sleeping pad if you are interested. Everything that was said about that pad should apply here as there are only micro differences between these products.
I’m going to use this product for the next couple of months and if something comes up that needs to be mentioned, if there is a problem or a difference between it and the Outdoorsmanlab pad, I will put up a supplemental video. If I don’t then you can assume that they are virtually the same.
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@frostriver8686 2 роки тому

Had 2 of these. Both started leaking. Couldn’t find the leaks. Tossed one before I realized it had the LT warranty. Thanks for reminding me to get an exchange on the other one. Using a Nemo Tensor Long Wide now. Excellent Edit: I registered the pads, then emailed their customer support. They have replied and stated they have supplied a refund. Since refunds aren’t instant, I’ll edit again once it is clear that a refund was provided.

@frostriver8686 2 роки тому

Update: I was notified by Amazon that a refund is in process for 1 of the pads. Replied to CS to see if they want to refund or replace the other pad as they seemed to overlook the fact that 2 were ordered even though details were provided for each order.

@maximusjoseppi5904 2 роки тому

I had one. Took it on a long range patrol class.. sucks when you're sleeping on uneven rooty ground in the forest in a bivy. Got the sea to summit ether light insulated long wide and that's amazing. Buy once cry once

@aliaswired 2 роки тому

I was going to say, let’s see if the company asks you to change or delete your review after refund like they did with my sleeping bag review, but seems like you didn’t review and go through the refund process via offer from Sleepingo. I’m still frustrated by this process I’m copying and pasting my other comment so it’s seen: I got the double sleeping bag rated 32-degrees from this company and was repeatedly asked by them to change my review after they refunded me. I took it on two trips, one to MN for a week where my nights were high 40s/low 50s. When I wrote a review stating, it’s fine for 65-degrees, not 50 and definitely not 32, I got an email saying they would refund me and they were sorry I was disappointed. Yes please, got my refund. After my refund I got two emails being like, did you get your refund and also, “I would really appreciate if you update your original review, or maybe just delete it?” I did not delete it nor change my review, but I can see how this tactic works. And it seems all of the low star reviews who say the same as me barely have any likes so people aren’t seeing the critical ones. This is another problem with Amazon reviews.

@frostriver8686 2 роки тому

Update 2: Sleepingo has given a full refund on both pads. So, I have to give them full credit as well. No cringy requests, just a well written apology.

@mikemansour1166 2 роки тому

@@maximusjoseppi5904 Thank you for your video it's really helpful, I also was researching about this company and i figured out that they do have used illegal practices to gather their reviews there's even a post on them and another company selling sleeping pads that they do violate amazon terms of service sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/amazon-purposely-allows-violation-for-some-sellers/501131

@thesagedwizard 2 роки тому

Not just Amazon reviews. I don't trust reviews anywhere anymore. Even tiny little online shops have inflated BS reviews now. That's why channels like this are so important!

@deschbono5242 2 роки тому

except i weigh 180, ive spent over 100 nights on this pad as a restless side sleeper, my hip doesnt bottom out, and the valve is actually bomber...so can you really trust this review without having tried it yourself? great value : weight ratio. not ideal for car camping.

@KurtFrederiksen 2 роки тому

I somewhat trust negative reviews. I deliberately search for the negative reviews to see how the company handle issues with their products. It there are no negative reviews they most likely have had them removed and I will skip the product and company. If there are negative reviews I will try to evaluate if they are legit and how the company have handled them. I try to take into account how different platforms handles reviews and how companies can interact with those reviews. I have mostly avoided the really crappy products this way. A really high number of positive reviews is in itself a warning sign. How many can reasonably buy the product and how many will write a review? In a review I wanna know how the product and company fails and what is done to mitigate that failure. I have little to no use of reviews with nothing bad to say unless they are very specific in their claims like pointing to a specific use the company doesn't talk about themselves. For the time being this seems to work fairly well.

@Adam-vx6to 2 роки тому

The biggest reason I think they get high reviews is that people who buy these dont have experience buying the quality ones costing 5x more so they simply dont know how good these can be. They assume this is what good is.

@deschbono5242 2 роки тому

@@Adam-vx6to I've tried 100-200$ Nemo's, big Agnes,and thermorests. The Nemo tensor is actually pretty comfortable but 4-5x the price. The big reason people give this pad negative review I because theyve never given it a chance

@thedude883 2 роки тому

@@Adam-vx6to good point Adam. If someone never experiences driving a Ferrari, that Ford Fusion seems just fine to them.

@mistress24099 2 роки тому

The best part I find hilarious is that on the outside of the box it states “heavy duty will not leak” yet open it up and it comes with a repair kit. LOL

@lesliegibbs6296 2 роки тому

My thoughts exactly. Lol

@jakejake7162 2 роки тому

Hilarious but aye Atleast they prep you for the worst 😁

@blurryeyestf2 2 роки тому

the Iron E

@CanItAlready 2 роки тому

I imagine the reasoning is that "will not leak" doesn't mean "can't suffer a puncture".

@mcse-nv2ou 2 роки тому

funny

@georgewilson7433 2 роки тому

“I do like the green color”. Really reaching for pro’s. 😂😂

@missedmurphy 2 роки тому

As a side sleeper, I thank you for always mentioning it. Actually, not only do you mention it but now you're gonna suffer on your side while you test it out. Thank you for always doing your due diligence!

@lynnk.7587 2 роки тому

I have never camped in my entire life, but your channel really makes me want to go camping. Love your videos man, I learned a lot through them, and they really motivate me to go camping. Greetings from Germany!

@rickycowan6969 2 роки тому

Get out there!👍

@sagichdirdochnicht4653 2 роки тому

Camping toug isn't that great in Germany. It's forbidden in Public places and you got to have an aggreement on private Ground. Other then that, usually only Campsites are allowed, wich aren't exactly like the wilderness thing. Most Campsites are rather funny, they are basically a retirement home, with elders living there in tiny houses.

@lizzaangelis3308 Рік тому

Get out there and give it a go.

@dude_man_bro 10 місяців тому

@sagich dirdochnicht that's absolutely dystopian

@pismorichy 3 місяці тому

Go Outside😅😅

@Panda-uh3zy 2 роки тому

I use this pad for hammock camping in florida. I havent had any issues after 20 trips. Blows up quickly, deflates quickly, hasn't leaked, and fits in my hammock perfectly. Maybe not so great for ground sleeping, but works well for hanging in the trees.

@leejohnson8095 2 роки тому

This is why I have it.. “budget price” and for the hammock..

@edm9704 2 роки тому

It is okay for sleeping on the ground too.

@rogerhaynes2661 2 роки тому

That's how I use mine and same results. Seems fine for hammock use.

@atomicpsych0 Рік тому

@@leejohnson8095 I'm curious as to why you're using it in a hammock? Is it for additional insulation?

@carltonp420 Рік тому

@@atomicpsych0 I found it just better when you don't like your shoulders curling up

@BushcraftingBogan Рік тому

I'm 5'8" and 210 lbs (yes a walking basketball) and I've slept on my side on this without bottoming out. I've used it 4 times so far with no issues. I also like the size. I've decided to attempt a few stealth camps, and this works great. I don't know what It would be like for days in a row. But for 1-2 days I'd use it.

@lyman135 2 роки тому

It isn't the best seller because its good. Its the best seller because it is inexpensive and markets itself well based on what they say on the box. IT looks uncomfortable just looking at it. Too many uninflated spaces.

@MakeCriminalsIllegalAgain 2 роки тому

No. It's the best seller because amazon puts it at the top of the list and calls it the "best seller" then everyone falls in line like the cattle they are.

@edm9704 2 роки тому

@@MakeCriminalsIllegalAgain I like your hefty dose of skepticism about people making careful judgements.

@BornIn1500 2 роки тому

@@edm9704 People love being told what to think. Just look at our propaganda media and the people who blindly believe it all.

@thedude883 2 роки тому

@@BornIn1500 Amen to that!

@WlSD0M 2 роки тому

This is the first time I’ve seen a review of something I’ve bought that doesn’t reflect what I’ve experienced. I’ve had this same sleeping pad for years now and it’s held up this entire time. I reallly like it for a lightweight option. Works great in a hammock because of the shape of the air pockets that allow it to form around your body. The ONLY complaint I have is that it’s noisy when moving around at night. But I’m really surprised at what you get for the price with this sleeping pad.

@MidgeDiabolik 2 роки тому

Hi, the very reason I'm thinking of getting this type of pad is because it looks a lot more 'flexible' than the self inflating foam types and so should work better in a hammock. so this has been your actual exprience? t.i.a

@WlSD0M 2 роки тому

@@MidgeDiabolik this pad has been perfect for hammock sleeping. I like that it's so versatile in that I can scrunch it up if I want more support under my knees or even sleep on my side because it forms to my body. But just like any sleeping pad in a hammock, it takes some patience to stop it from sliding around underneath you and you really need to play around with the amount of air in the pad (I like it less inflated). Also, I'm 5'10" 170 lbs. so my experience may differ slightly from someone not my size. I hope this helps

@barrybear2012 2 роки тому

I have this pad too, and I like it as well. When I lay down on it, I feel nothing but comfort. Now I do agree that if you sit up while laying on it, you will feel the ground. But it's lightweight, easy to inflate, and easy to deflate and store. I'm glad I bought it.

@ClippedStreams101 Рік тому

So many bots

@WlSD0M Рік тому

@@ClippedStreams101 nah. Just some people that's tried many different solutions to problems we've found.

@sergeant_salty 2 роки тому

i've had one of these for a year it's basically the bare minimum. has virtually no R value. only weird thing was getting a letter from Mr Coy West over a year after i ordered it asking me for an Amazon review

@forty9r9r7 11 місяців тому

and now I'm responding to your comment a year later... I think asking for reviews a year later is actually great. If you haven't popped it in a year that's pretty good for 35$ or whatever it is now

@paulcontursi5982 2 роки тому

I have the Outdoorsman Lab version and I even bought another for my son. For camping or hiking from late spring to early fall, it's just fine.

@k0pper 2 роки тому

I've found Outdoorsman Lab to be a decent brand for low/mid tier stuff that's not complete garbage. Yeah it's mostly the same stuff made at the same factories all these other brands are selling, but they don't try to oversell it and inflate their prices in the process. I have several of their camping blankets (basically a sleeping bag without a zipper) and they're great for what they are.

@iceman256 2 роки тому

I don't read the reviews on Amazon. I do all my research on YT on many channels. You get the odd channel whom are sponsored by the manufacture. Thanks for the review 👍

@mattcook1257 2 роки тому

I have this pad. It's okay. It's slippery. There's absolutely ZERO "r" value. Great for summer. Light, and small. Worked well with my cotton rope hammock. Good price.

@cyclopeanserver5444 2 роки тому

I just got done with a 950 mile hike and used this sleeping pad every day. I started the hike at 200 pounds and ended at rought 170 pounds... am a side sleeper and never had my hips touch the ground. The hike was from Springer mountain GA to Luray VA on the AT. Again, I used this pad every day through hot/cold/snow/rain/sleet etc... I love it, never had a problem. But.... it seems manufacturing is hit and miss, I met 3 other hikers that started with the same pad and 2 of 3 of them had it leak in the first week, the 3rd just didn't like it. For the price, it's a great pad in my opinion. I picked it up when preparing for the hike and watched a video of "Dixie" who recommended it. I thought why not, and I wasn't disappointed. It outperformed pads that cost 5 times as much in my experience. It did accumulate some condensation inside as I blew it up every night... but hanging it in the sun during zero days with the valve open would reduce this. You really need to blow it up "tight" though to make it comfy.

@HickeyTKE118 2 роки тому

I've had the same experience, I like the pad, when it is cold I carry a foam pad to go under it and it seems fine. I'm 6', 200lbs and sleep on my side. I got it a couple years ago for less than $20. It's a great budget item.

@simunator 2 роки тому

never had problem with this for 2 years even in snow. albeit i use a $300 -30c sleeping bag so it compensates for the thin air mat, but i guess you just make do with what works for you

@tommythuntdeer 2 роки тому

Interesting! I had no idea reviews could be bought. I appreciate your blunt honesty! Thanks!

@winnguyen443 2 роки тому

Not just camping, learning a lot from you! Thank you! Great video! Amazon reviews! Thanks for that tip!

@opalprestonshirley1700 2 роки тому

This is why I listen to your reviews straight forward and no BS. Still love my Klymit Static V.

@thedude883 2 роки тому

Ditto! I also like Klymit. I bought three pads and 4 pillows. I only carry one but it's nice to know that I have the other two in reserve at home should I ever need to retire the first one. Klymit also made an inflatable 1 person raft which was always sold out every time I checked. I have several 4 person rafts but they are too heavy to pack on an excursion. I hope Klymit still makes their raft because I'm certain that it must be of equal quality. Rest well upon you Klymit!

@DoseofDirt 2 роки тому

Great video! I have this pad and some other $40 pads. This one is my go-to if I'm going as light as possible. 14oz is pretty impressive and I haven't had any issues with it as far as leaking, durability, or anything else. Is it the most comfortable? No. If I'm not going ultra light and comfort is the goal, my $40 Trekology kicks the Sleepingos butt. 4 inches thick, 40D nylon, not too loud, the material feels less plasticky, and it is just SUPER comfortable. I had not heard of those sites to check Amazon reviews, but will definitely have to check that out for future purchase. Purchased reviews are super annoying. Thanks for giving your honest opinion!

@iFlyGood 5 місяців тому

14oz is not impressive?

@christopherhaak9824 4 дні тому

I have both this and the trekology. I'm a back sleeper so the sleepngo is just fine for me in regards to cushion - and it's very light.

@DoseofDirt 3 дні тому

@@christopherhaak9824 Can't beat the price/weight ratio! 2 years later and my Sleepingo (and trekology) is sill going strong!

@shawnsears7590 2 роки тому

6' 0" 190Lbs Inflate to a high pressure. Use in conjunction with a sleeping bag. Sleeps well in any position. 4.5 Stars.

@user-bk1lh6ke7n 2 роки тому

This is what I like about this channel, someone who hasn’t been bought off by anyone or any company but who still gives a fair and reasoned analysis of a product.

@dubc3615 2 роки тому

I bought this for the reason of it being best on Amazon. Being 225lb 6ft side sleeper it was not comfortable so It was a big let down. Now I am still on the search for a good sleeping pad. I did gift this one to someone smaller in which did work out ok. Thanks for the info on amazon reviews It was an eye opener.

@gud2go50 24 дні тому

Just started my return! Thanks for the information.😊

@YankeeWoodcraft 8 місяців тому

Ultralight, comfortable, cheap...pick two. And comfort is relative.

@platforma1974 2 роки тому

you are right actually! . when I started the outdoors and didnt know I looked in Amazon and bought this . Its not that bad but I almost never had a good night sleep as a side sleeper plus its very narrow on the sides. Thats why i watch you all these years because you really say it like it is. Great Review ! thanks

@susiehamm216 2 роки тому

THANK YOU!! We have been thinking about getting this pad for our camping and this says it all!! Thank you!! Say Hi to Susie for me!! Hugs🥰

@leeennddaa853 Рік тому

So I bought this pad and used it a few times... and I have to say, I like it for ONE purpose: hammock camping. This thing isn't rigid and so it conforms to the shape of my hammock and works great for hammock camping to give some insulation and comfort (though I prob wouldn't use just on its own in temps below 60 or so... (I usually sleep with a 40º bag) lower than that, I'd add an underquilt to the hammock to sleep more comfortably). I went and picked up a Big Agnes Q-Core insulated pad for tent camping as I do tend to be a side-sleeper sometimes. This pad was much thicker and comfier for ground sleeping and had a higher R-Value as well for lower temps. It's good to test out your gear and know which works best for certain applications!

@averyeinhorn 2 роки тому

Hey Luke, another fantastic, informative, entertaining review. Question: you review so many products; is there a way to search to see if you reviewed a particular product, and if so to get the link to the video? Be well, enjoy life.

@earlshaner4441 2 роки тому

Hi from Syracuse NY brother and thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures and your family and everyone else

@Fjall-Anders Рік тому

Thanks for a great video😉 I have Exped downmat tt 9 on my wintertrip. The safest inflatable in my opinion. It has six separate tubes, for punk you can replace the broken tube.

@christopherwright4271 2 роки тому

Hi Luke great video as always. None of them are matched with the Thermarest Neoair Xthirm Large mat which is the one I have as I'm 6'3 I would never use another brand after that.

@BlakeTheTerror 2 роки тому

I‘ve got the mat a few year ago but Branded differently. I‘m Pretty happy with it, it slept really comfy and didn‘t leak although my dog stepped on it a lot. I like it for the weight and I like in for hiking in the Summer!

@brnrecluse2946 2 роки тому

Candor & honesty is why I watch your channel, Luke. Strength & honor.

@docgibby469 2 роки тому

Keep up the hard work man. Keep the videos coming.

@zaminator9016 2 роки тому

i just bought this last week, and there were no good video reviews on this item, im happy you did a video on it. im returning it, thank you, thank you

@mcoppock214 2 роки тому

Wow that’s my sleep pad. Alpkit cloud base current price £44.99. Uk. I have used this a handful of times. I originally used the close cell foam roll matts so it’s an improvement on those. I found using the foam roll as well is warmer and more comfortable. But many people in cold weather camping double up if not triple up. Great review Luke as always.

@shawnenser2610 2 роки тому

Thanks, Good information, really like your in depth reviews for serious for great gear . I'm curious about a review of the Wiggy's Ground pads? Although you will have to get in the cold weather to review them.

@johanlars87 2 роки тому

Hi! Thanks for a great resviews! Is it possible that you could have the measurements in meters or centimeters on the screen when you say them in feet or inches?

@hillerdevildog1073 2 роки тому

I bought 2 fruiteam sleeping pads ...would love your review on tbem...I personally think they are a good bang for there buck...I normally just use a air mattress in my truck reny but started trying these so my wife and I don't disturb each other while moving in our sleep...me the most cause I have leg issues...been trying them out around house relaxing before the full test..hope ya try them and give a reveiw..live your videos...I love honesty..rock on brother..🤟

@pismorichy 3 місяці тому

Hey Luke , I just bought this for 20 bucks on eBay( I avoid Amazon) . Im taking this Spain for my Camino , as my other one is 28oz. Klymit. I've slept on this pad several times let's see how long it lasts . Happy 2024 to you and your family

@TrekkingPackingGear 2 роки тому

I kind of liked the letter from the owner and the lifetime guarantee, would appreciate that from more companies not only TaR

@TooTall_hikes 2 роки тому

Yeah I believe you nailed it with this review. I had a major issue with mine. 1st night out it deflated twice. I literally had to blow it back up in the middle of the night. Then I switched to the big agnes 3 inch pad because I am a side sleeper. In the summer I switch to a nemo mini non insulated

@scottbutler1561 2 роки тому

Nice review. I bought one labeled different for @$30 for my wife for summer use. It's held up for a year and suits her needs. For the money it's a nice starter, but honestly there are a multitude of pads on sale in the $40 - $60 range that are far more suitable, and some are insulated. For the extra $15 or $20 which of the pads in this range do you prefer (ex: Klymit and Trekology have some nice options in the $40 - $60 range)?

@joannekeefe426 2 роки тому

These are better than nothing. But to get better r value you could simply throw a mylar blanket over it. Or one of those reflective solar windshield thing they. Put on car windshields. The dollar tree sells one for a dollar.

@robertmcclain5032 2 роки тому

Being a non minimalist car camper, the $14.97 walmart queen air mattress will give you a good nights sleep. And yes I do know that TOGR is more for the backpackers. Luke dose an excellent job in helping me hold down the overall vehicle weight of my four wheeler. Also TOGR has saved me time and money in getting the right gear the first time.

@OldPackMule 2 роки тому

I've had one of the other labels. Used it in a pinch and it was minimal. It lives in my emergency pack if I need to insulate from cold ground.

@Darignobullseye 2 роки тому

Thank you!! There was a time I considered purchasing this pad because of how small it packs up but those small bumps didn't look thick enough. You have confirmed this for me and I THANK YOU for it

@thedude883 2 роки тому

Check out Klymit pads! They compress down to about the size of can of soda.

@Darignobullseye 2 роки тому

@@thedude883 . Fantastic. Thank you

@icequeen8504 2 роки тому

I’ve seen a couple of backpackers here on YT recommend this pad as a decent budget option. I almost picked one up for my son (14) because he only likes to camp/backpack in the summer and doesn’t need a pad with a high R-value. I’m glad I passed on this one.

@Zeriel00 2 роки тому

If it's only for the summer then this is not bad because a kid doesn't need a lot of thickness in the pad and the R rating doesn't matter in the summer. This is not a bad pad, just a little over rated and not good for cold conditions. Anyways what pad did you went with? I hope you didn't spend 150$+ on a professional pad for a kid lol unless you're rich.

@edm9704 2 роки тому

Ice Queen: This IS a decent pad. I've slept well on it. It should take care of your son. It's quite good enough. If someone wants a pad that is 3 or 4 inches thick, it will be more expensive.

@paladin11C40 2 роки тому

I have this pad and used it several times in all seasons, I use it in conjunction with a sleeping bag with a bivy, so I dont lose too much heat from the low R rating. I paid 27 bucks for it a few months back, they had a great coupon on Amazon. Its a good budget pad. Some reviewers who are accustomed to a lot better gear will not like it. Its kind of like going from a Mercedes then renting a Ford, while it does the same thing, its just not the same.

@thedude883 2 роки тому

*Sleepingo!* Auto correct got me again! Tried to edit the original reply to correct that but YT kept "failing to post"....

@Zeriel00 2 роки тому

@@paladin11C40 Wow that was a steal! Yea for 27$ you can't do better than this! then when you have more money and experiment you can upgrade what you need. This is the best way to go. Unfortunately, I bought my stuff in a hurry and tried to get middle of the line/good gear right off the bat because I may have to camp in cold climate and because I need smaller gear to carry in a backpack. I went with a 100$ Hammock Gear Pad that has 4 R Rating and 2.5 Inches and packs really nicely and a Econo Quilt that's not economical at all!!! but it's really good 20c rating and packs small for around 200$. My tent is a Greycliff 2, I can't find ANY reviews on it but it's the best I could find for the price (175$) and very similar to the Lynx 2 but with more mesh.

@dhands100 2 роки тому

I am a 6+ footer with 24 inch shoulders and can side sleep comfortablyon my Klymit Static V...the first time on a hardwood floor. Good review as always.

@heathereusden3029 2 роки тому

Good review. Always questioned Amazon reviews, thank you for letting your viewers about FakeSpot. Really appreciate your honesty and advice.

@jwoodyard1 2 роки тому

Thanks Dave, for your honest review. I was looking at this sleeping pad ($85 in Canada). Definitely a no go now. Cheers

@jyo8914 2 роки тому

I am WAY too old for a tiny little sleeping pad like that. Outside of those uber expensive sleeping pads, I've been using the inflatable Coleman ones for a while. They're good and won't break the bank. Occasionally go on sale too. They are not for backpacking in the least, but for the type of camping I do, no problems. Thank you for all of your reviews and videos. Keep up the good work.

@heather333 2 роки тому

I purchased the mat from another brand. It was inexpensive and I wasn't expecting great things. I went camping in April and used the mat inside my sleeping bag. It was quite comfortable, didn't leak, easy to inflate and deflate. Like you said, comfortable when on your back but not great when side sleeping. I don't go camping often and I now use it on top on a futon mat when car camping, and it's fine.

@villanuevafamily4 4 місяці тому

I have this pad and I love it. However, I do use a yoga mat underneath because I mostly use it for camping in cold nights in the 40’s. So for warmth, I use a yoga mat. Also, I sleep on my back in cold weather so I don’t know how comfortable it would be if I was to sleep on my side. Additionally, I’m easily comfortable anywhere. I once slept in my kayak so what may be uncomfortable for someone like my husband, I would be completely ok. My husband would not, in any way, be comfortable in this pad. This pad is good for people who don’t need a lot of comfort.

@MatthewLourey 2 роки тому

I have this, a different brand, which I got from aliexpress for $20. Bought it for my son for summer camping as it is small and light. Works really well for that purpose, and would buy again.

@daveh9907 2 роки тому

Thanks for the honest review, I don't read much into Amazon's reviews as I've run into this exact scam and more and more counterfeit items as well. why isn't the seller's name associated with counterfeit items? Is Amazon protecting the sellers even when being dishonest. I haven't tried this pad and like you I think deception deserves no reward.

@shouldhavenotshouldof2031 Рік тому

I’ve had one for a couple years now and I really like it. I paid $30 for it and I have had zero problems with mine. I’m 5’ 10” 180lbs And a side sleeper. You just have to blow it up really firm.

@firestarter8202 4 місяці тому

I have one of those and I also have a Nemo Tensor insulated. Luke, that pad may have a zero R-value, but in regards to weight, strength and reliability it’s awesome! You just have to realize it’s a summer pad. I’m 5 foot eight at 140 pounds and on my side it doesn’t contact the ground. No hotspots.

@kyle-qw5yx 2 роки тому

I've had it a few years and taken it out a few times. I haven't done intense testing or anything but, coming from someone who never owned a sleeping pad and just used a piece of foam: it's significantly more comfortable and easier to carrier. Most comfortable nights sleep I've had in a tent. I cannot compare it to more premium pads. For what I spent I think it was certainly worth the money.

@KiczzciK 2 роки тому

I have a re-label and agree. Pretty decent! Not the best, absolutely not the worst and way better than the old foam pads. Especially considering size, weight and price.

@Sunshine_day Рік тому

I had two outdoorsman labs, they both started leaking about 3 years after I bought them. One was barely ever used, and the other was used almost 1-2x weekly. I never could find the leaks, I think it was near the valve. There is no lifetime warranty with them.

@tomlamiam 9 місяців тому

solid review. i've used the outdoorsmanlab since 2018 and have had only 1 rough night of sleep (below 0 in Banff). no real complaints especially if i paid only $22 for it!

@nicholashurley5659 2 роки тому

Love this channel keep up the fantastic work.

@kevinklein4748 2 роки тому

Interesting information about the reviews on Amazon! I did sometimes wonder what constitutes a product being "Amazon's choice", and if the product is really that good... sometimes that's the case, sometimes it's not. There are a lot of mediocre products on Amazon with good reviews, so be aware.

@DGColin 2 роки тому

I think you could really add a lot of value to your review if you had a recommendation as to some alternatives to look at that may better serve a hiker. Just a thought. Thanks for the review.

@danielmart7940 2 роки тому

Also, I do like the ease of deflating it, compared to my thermorest pad. As far as Amazon reviews, whenever I leave a bad review on a product, it magically never shows up in the review section

@ebeavis1991 2 роки тому

I actually received a request once on a negative review I made asking me to edit the review. The company even sent me the preferred wording. As a result, do not trust any reviews and do outside research. This is for Amazon or any other company.

@jlt131 2 роки тому

@@ebeavis1991 oh wow, that's shady! the worst I've seen is when the package arrives with a note saying "send us a screenshot of your 5-star review and we'll send you these accessories". The ones that do that, I get the accessories and then immediately update my review to the actual feelings about the product (and a note that they "bought" my review)

@Rob801 4 місяці тому

I have not used this yet but purchased it along with a bunch of other gear to start Motorcycle camping... Then I searched reviews on YT and found yours which I was happy to see as I started following your channel a few months ago :). I purchased this without too much worry due to the fact that I will be using it on a small cot so will not be directly on the ground. I am just getting too old for that. Not intentional, but my cot, this pad and my sleeping bag (also one you have reviewed) are all some shade of green. I am a little conflicted as I almost think it should go back on principle, but on the other hand, for the price, it is probably good enough for my needs, and because I will not be directly on the ground. Edit: I went to return it on Amazon and it is non returnable due to hazmat regulations??? That is not reassuring. Looked at other brands return eligibility (Exped for example) and did not see the same warning. I also bought a Lone Rider Moto tent... I was leaning strongly towards getting one before I found your review, but it helped seal the deal (got it on Black Friday, so saved a bit on it at least). Fits my bike well of course, but I also wanted a tent I can stand in. Can't wait for slightly warmer temps to start my weekend adventures!

@victorparadise5878 28 днів тому

Thanks for an honest review!

@jsutter1553 Рік тому

I’ve used an Intey brand I got off Amazon a year ago for around $30. I’ve used it in a hammock and tent. I’m a side sleeper and I can say it’s pretty ok. I got a sleepingo a couple weeks ago based on reviews and positive videos. I won’t use it by itself, but together with the intey? Chef’s kiss. They are the same size and weight. Worth the extra space they take up in my pack.

@rosspayne9875 2 роки тому

Thank you for this video. I never knew they inflated reviews like that. Makes since. Think from now on I'll look to reviews on youtube instead of amazon

@mantovannni 2 роки тому

I love your honesty Luke and these great reviews. As a side sleeper I'll avoid considering this.

@Sunshine_day Рік тому

I have this pad. It's very comfortable for me, especially if I put a closed cell foam pad under my upper body. I haven't had any leaks yet. My main complaint is that it won't stay under me. I wake up and it's either by my side or the only part of me is still on it; my head & shoulders. I guess I move around too much during sleep. I thought I could fix it by, putting it inside my sleeping bag. That finally helped. It's really good for sleeping in my car too.

@chrisguthrie4378 2 роки тому

I purchased this pad earlier this year. Used it several times camping/backpacking. I loved the price and actually found it fairly comfortable as a side sleeper. Took good care it, always being careful to not puncture it. However it only lasted for five trips. Never fun to wake up in the middle of the night with your hips digging into the ground because all the air has leaked out. Definitely not planning to purchase another, looking a higher quality pad in the near future.

@Lee-70ish 2 роки тому

Ive got the same waffle pad under a different name but I do put a Highlander reflective camping mat on top which makes it just that bit more comfortable. im 210lbs and a side sleeper but cant say ive ever touched the ground. For the £15 I paid its ok however I do have a much thicker pad that I use in autumnal weather again with the Highlander as these waffles imho are way to close to the ground for cold weather use.

@peterk671 2 роки тому

I use one like this with a small form factor cot when I go camping on the motorbike. Together it is rather comfortable, I would like to try it on its own.

@williams1479 2 роки тому

I bought two of these one year ago. It is better than my cheep 1/3 in pad. I'm about 185lbs and don't sleep very well while camping and tend to sleep on my side. It seems to work fine for my kids, but I think I need something thicker or better for side sleepers. I put a blanket over it and then my sleeping bag to try and keep warmer.

@anthonyzummo867 6 місяців тому

Have you ever reviewed the Ecotek Hybern 8 Insulated "4 season" sleeping pad? They say it's four season but, I haven't used mine in cold weather. Just mild weather, but I enjoy it and it isn't as loud as my insulated Thermarests

@alane3983 2 роки тому

Interesting info about the reviews. I will use that site to analyze other products I’m thinking about buying.

@pelewads 2 роки тому

I'm afraid, I have to agree with you. I have owned one for 2 years. And, I have always found it comfortable. I weigh 220 lbs. And am strictly a side sleeper. I simply blow it up firmer. I should note however, that I do prefer a much firmer mattress. I basically only need padding for my hips. So, I might not be the best example. I do agree with you on the deceptive advertising. Had I known that, at the time, I would have chosen another product.

@TheLapierre 2 роки тому

Thanks for the review! Would not by this pad, usually go for some of the stuff our military here in scandinavia uses or with known brands Best regards!

@Silverback_GMT410 2 роки тому

I'm actually considering something like this. Especially if there may be others that are slightly cheaper. For someone who uses an unfolded sleeping bag as a sleeping pad and enjoys the hard floor, this seems alright.

@jesseo715 7 місяців тому

So the quilting pattern on this is a match to my Alps Mountaineering Nebula pad. In my experience, Alps is a good budget brand. It's not top-of-the-line like Nemo, Big Agnes, MSR, Sea to Summit, etc., but it's not cheap Amazon gear either... or so I thought. I have a 3p Alps tent and it's great, on par with some of the nicer Eureka stuff. Is my Alps pad just a clone of this one? The only real difference I can see is that the Alps pad is 40D nylon. I don't know the R value of the pad in the video, but my Alps is a 3.0. So what do you think? is this just a priced up version of the cheap Amazon pad, or is it better?

@ricomacpherson6845 2 роки тому

Great review, this why I enjoy your channel

@weisswurstfruhstuck8523 8 місяців тому

I have something similar from Amazon from Hikenture. Looks a bit better. Actually I love those for my hammock camping in summer. I just need a few blows to inflate it and it keeps me warm at night in the warmer seasons and sleeping in a hammock with one of those is just great :) you don’t need more actually. But you will really suffer with those on the ground!!!!

@Gil_Nielsen 2 роки тому

I have the outdoorsman lab one of these pads, I have used it for over a year now and just like he says if you are a side sleeper it is way too thin. but I use it on a cot and I have no issues. I very often get short shifted at work or work doubles, so instead of going home I crash in the office. for the price it is a good pad.

@thexitto 2 роки тому

Thank You for your awesome honest work!

@tradmanmike3360 2 роки тому

LUKE, NO WORRIES!!! I THUMBS UP BEFORE I EVER WATCH YOU VIDEOS! I KNOW YOU! YOU HAVE COST ME A SMALL FORTUNE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS MY FRIEND! GOD'S BLESSINGS TO YOU AND FAMILY!!! FROM 641....

@RatingARKReviews 8 місяців тому

Sleepingo's compact pad offers great support and easy deflation, fitting backpacking needs. The slippery surface causes slight slippage in the sleeping bag. Noisy cells affect sleep, lowering the rating.

@Kitfoo77 2 роки тому

Have you tried out any of the REI co-op backpacking tents? Would be interested to see how they hold up.

@gregorybiggs2068 2 роки тому

I got the Outdoorsman Lab (w/pillow) clone. it seems fine for $40. Under it I also use a foam pad, so I can't comment on it alone. Comfort is fair. Weight is good. I'm considering getting a higher R-factor and wider mat. Post pandemic everything is more costly.

@oscarmorales2250 2 роки тому

I have 2 of these and both lasted exactly 3 camping trips for me and my wife. I'm a heavier set guy but my wife is smaller (130 lb) and they both started leaking on the exact same trip. I'm also a side sleeper and I did have issues with comfort.

@grob25 2 роки тому

My wife and I live in southwest Washington state. We play in the cascade mountains. We have been on trail with the outdoorsman lab version for the past three years. We have had no issues and we like them. Of course they are not the best of the best but, they are good enough for us. If mine will ever give up the ghost, I will get a nicer one. But until then........

@MuvoTX 2 роки тому

Not a bad low cost option for summer months where you dont need an R value. Ive had a thermarest neo air venture for years... i'm a side sleeper and love it!!

@sloth753 2 роки тому

I'm relatively new to the channel. My boys are in Boy Scouts and we are going through equipment lists and getting supplies. Any chance you review the Kuhee (blue) sleeping matress? Would greatly appreciate it. And maybe some more car camping gear where the weight doesn't matter as much.

@danielmart7940 2 роки тому

I bought the outdoorsman version. I use it for hammock camping n in my usgi gortex bivy, underneath my sleeping bag. It's good in that applica. I never used it for ground sleeping, and I'm sure it would not be very comfortatgat way. As far as R value, deduct 2 R's when using in winter()))))

@dougnymeyer8806 2 роки тому

@TheOutdoorGearReview what pad would you recommend for a 6 foott all + side sleeper?

@andreasweber7828 2 роки тому

Look into Nemo tensor insulated, BigAgnes Q-Core SLX ( wide/long ). Both R-values are around 3,2. I’ve been using them for a while. I know they are bloody expensive but I’m not taking any chances. NEMO has a lifetime warranty on the product

@natlovell122 2 роки тому

Check out the alps mountaineering featherlite air mat sleeping pad at Sportman's Warehouse. It's less than $50 on sale right now and they have a "long" version.

@IPANoah 2 роки тому

Bought it in my newbie days a few years ago. Did one night of camping. Did some more research and promptly returned it and bought something better used locally.

@Berniewojewski 2 роки тому

I absolutely love the honesty.

@sirreedster 2 роки тому

Bro....I caught your review on this just in time. I was looking it up from amazon under the brand name AKSOUL. Your reveiw popped up on UKposts, so I knew right away to check it out. Thanks for saving me from a possible bad buy.

@travelinbeat Рік тому

I know this is an older video-- algorithm is weird-- thanks for sharing and discussing the deception. I agree that alone should be concerning and a reason to avoid them. You said at one point side sleepers need 3in minimum, I thru-hiked AT last year and CDT this year (daily vlogs from each) and I have always slept on a 2.5in mat very comfortably as a side sleeper. Just a heads up for future reference. Love the channel, been checking it off and on for a while now!

@saltyspaceman5697 8 місяців тому

i usually just use foam mats and was thinking of adding this on top of my foam mat for a lightweight, cheap addition for some extra comfort and insulation.....this review suggests its not a bad idea

@melvasaiel 2 роки тому

I bought one of these as a "beginner" pad. It was fine for six nights, then started leaking in the middle of the 7th night. Luckily I had a Thermarest z-lite foam pad under that, otherwise I would have been really cold (the Sleepingo does have *some* R-value because I would feel the cold whenever I slipped off the pad, which was often). The company sent me a replacement, but I went on to buy myself a much thicker/warmer Big Agnes pad. I'd say that this pad is fine for a beginner who's trying to get together a bunch of gear without spending too much: it's cheap and it's light. It can get someone like me out in the woods, and eventually they can upgrade.