Why Linux isn't more popular

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Linux is a great OS with a lot of good ideas behind it. But why is it not more popular on desktop?
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@SurfsharkAcademy
@SurfsharkAcademy 3 місяці тому
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@rohitram9701
@rohitram9701 2 місяці тому
Genuinely saying, very few big games are available on linux. So gaming is not awesome on linux.
@rohitram9701
@rohitram9701 2 місяці тому
No gaming means Low market share of linux.
@revanvonheaven8270
@revanvonheaven8270 2 місяці тому
Garuda460 kde
@AnthonyManzio
@AnthonyManzio 2 місяці тому
Screw gaming will everything still work?
@mchenrynick
@mchenrynick День тому
The really big thing I like with Linux Mint is that it updates everything in 2 minutes or less. No waiting 10+++ minutes for a reboot to "finish your updates"...
@Kolya632
@Kolya632 3 місяці тому
Many people don't even know what an OS is. They think that Windows is "part of the machine".
@Laszlo34
@Laszlo34 2 місяці тому
"Sad but true" - Metallica
@awuuwa
@awuuwa 2 місяці тому
I agree with that. It's just preinstalled on the computer they buy
@xWatexx
@xWatexx 2 місяці тому
The OS provides such an insane amount of stuff for the user, even if there’s no desktop. It’s incredible.
@dm8579
@dm8579 13 днів тому
Exactly. And most people don't want to tinker with their computers. A large amount of users will never even change the default desktop background.
@Kolya632
@Kolya632 13 днів тому
@@dm8579 The kind of people that say "I don't have anything to hide, so I don't need privacy", that's like saying "I have nothing to say, so I don't need freedom of speech". My main concern about today's internet is that most people don't give a damn about their personal data floating around in the web. It's a serious issue. I'm not a native english speaker, I hope I'm clear 🤗.
@gimcrack555
@gimcrack555 3 місяці тому
99% You can't buy a laptop or a Desktop with Linux. And 99% of customer's can't install a operating system. That's the main reason right there. No since to over think it. Been using Linux for the past 20 years. I know how to build and install an OS. Was curious one day about Linux. I install Linux and never touch a Windows OS ever again. Windows XP was the lost Windows OS I ever touched.
@antonioytm
@antonioytm 3 місяці тому
Many people build their PC or buy laptop with freedos and still they install Windows with media creation tool.. so i think your comment is false cause people are capable and its not hard Windows has pros that suits most people
@FunkeyPhysicsMonkey
@FunkeyPhysicsMonkey 3 місяці тому
​​@@antonioytm Before they built their PC they likely owned a PC and likely were already familiar with Windows. When it comes to OSes that come out of the box, they seem to do better like Apples' OS, ChromeOS, Android, SteamOS, ... Another issue is because Windows is the default, many apps and games make their apps for Windows, which reinforces Windows as the default. There have been great advances to proton and WINE, but still what people are familiar with are not there. So in all likelihood, PC builders install Windows because it is what they are familiar with (so no learning curve) and it is what Game companies focus on ... i.e. because it is the default since nearly all computers (not phone and non-tablet computers since Android is the default in those markets) are sold with Windows installed.
@dgrigoryants2017
@dgrigoryants2017 3 місяці тому
You can buy a laptop with Linux...
@antonioytm
@antonioytm 3 місяці тому
@@FunkeyPhysicsMonkey True its familiarity mostly but not always cause for example you dont have same experience on all android phones cause it depends on vendors but still many people choose android and dont care about vendors.. Btw everybody can do better than ChromeOS
@axandraalex5869
@axandraalex5869 3 місяці тому
​​@@antonioytm android is the only cheaper option beside ios that support mainstream apps. Ppl mostly use OS to run application, not really for interacting with the OS directly.
@jumbojoshfrombanban
@jumbojoshfrombanban 3 місяці тому
i love the fact that this is one of the brands that actually embraces linux
@ImTiredOfFindingAGoodHandle
@ImTiredOfFindingAGoodHandle 3 місяці тому
surfshark's vpn on linux is missing a lot of features compared to their vpn on windows. but at least they do have a option for linux unlike some other vpns.
@jumbojoshfrombanban
@jumbojoshfrombanban 3 місяці тому
@@ImTiredOfFindingAGoodHandle yeah, but it might just be more difficult to handle vpns on linux (afaik)
@Visquint
@Visquint 3 місяці тому
@@ImTiredOfFindingAGoodHandle also mullvad is better
@rallen7660
@rallen7660 3 місяці тому
@@jumbojoshfrombanban Linux actually has the drivers for it's own vpn built into the kernel: Wireguard. It's open for anyone to use.
@basi528
@basi528 3 місяці тому
just curious, what features is it missing? I feel like PIA on linux has everything I need @@ImTiredOfFindingAGoodHandle
@kittenzrulz2314
@kittenzrulz2314 3 місяці тому
1. The Linux Foundation has a massive amount of funding that they use to fund Linux 2. Having the option to use it is still amazing 3. When the users come the software will as well 4. KDE Connect does build an ecosystem with Android 5. There are IRC chats for major distros such as Debian and Arch 6. Having options is a good thing 7. Im not going to pretend that major multiplayer games work well but if you're a singleplayer gamer then you should be fine
@needsLITHIUM
@needsLITHIUM 3 місяці тому
Guild Wars 2 and WoW work great on Proton, just saying. I dual boot on my PC. Guild Wars 2 and Path of Exile perform better via Proton and DXVK than on native Windows 10 with MX Linux KDE. I've played MechWarrior 5 on Linux, too, because Epic Games are accesible through the Heroic Games Launcher (which is also available on Windows and Mac). A few other distros I have tried are roughly the same or just shy of Windows performance. Even Fortnite works (technically, though some hardware can't handle it, and see below). The only games that don't play nice on Linux usually have some sort of inherent incompatibility issue, or there is some sort of DRM or Anti-Cheat that is either Windows-specific, incompatible with the Linux kernel (like kernel mode drivers for Anti-Cheat/DRM, and these types of things actually break windows' own security, and can be harmful to OS stability - I boycott these games on principle), or there is an Anti-Cheat patch to enable Linux compatibility, but the developer company refuses to implement it on their end, usually a corporate decision, over the heads of the actual devs (EastAntiCheat comes to mind - like with Fortnite. Sadly, the anti-cheat is the only thing preventing just installing the Windows version on Proton).
@michaelkeller5008
@michaelkeller5008 3 місяці тому
issue is point 3: as long the software isn't there, users won't come (or do come and leave again due to required software doesn't run)
@kittenzrulz2314
@kittenzrulz2314 3 місяці тому
@@michaelkeller5008 For the vast majority of people Linux is good enough, so yes the users will come
@michaelkeller5008
@michaelkeller5008 3 місяці тому
@@kittenzrulz2314that's the thinking keeping people away! sure, there are trillions of programs who can take the job of eg. Outlook, Acrobat , Illustrator, aso. BUT the normal user (those without dev-knowledge) have to find it, get it running, configure it, get used to the program, fight the import/export-issue (if you have to exchange files), and many many more issues a normal user is just willing to accept in small quantities but has to deal with a whole universe of. Something that i've concluded since the early 2000s: if linux-devs would start developing for users, and not for other linux-devs, making programms on linux easier to install, run and to be understood by those without dev-knowledge (and not expecting everyone try to gain that knowledge), success'd be reached. (why is android a success? it's easy to use! find the app, install it, run it, work with it! it even helps during installation to connect calendar, mail aso - all has to be done manually on linux (edit: just think of what's needed to connect thunderbird to your calendar and address-book - why is there still need for an external plugin for xDAV? It's 2024! c'mon! You can't expect a normal user to find the plugin, get it installed, configured then connecting it with thunderbird, just to find out that a change in the address-book is best made on the smartphone for the changes to be working over all plattforms!) ! and on linux, no app looks like the one on mac or windows or tablet/smartphone, it's totally different!) even i, who made the transfer in 2016, have still to run win10 in a VM for the programs there just is no working alternative on linux, and can't be run in wine (IF you can get wine to run properly, that is - the next "pain in the rear for non-dev-users" devs do not understand!)
@nadtz
@nadtz 3 місяці тому
@@kittenzrulz2314 Having helped quite a few companies (small to mid sized) and home users try to migrate to Linux over not sure how many years, Linux being 'good enough' for the vast majority of users often isn't quite true. If you get rid of MS Office and Adobe apps it gets better but there are a lot of people who rely on those apps even if they don't use them everyday and other apps that there just aren't direct replacements for. Someone who is determined to move can mostly make it work, but you might need to dual boot or have a second machine for some things. So long story short a lot of users will need a compelling reason to move but MS is doing a good job of giving more savvy users reason to do so, so we will see.
@Bp1033
@Bp1033 3 місяці тому
Ubuntu: I want to try linux. Kubuntu: I want to try linux but have it look like windows. Xubuntu: I want to try linux but have it look like MacOS. Debian: I just want a general purpose desktop. Puppy: my computer is extremely old but i still like it. Arch: I want to learn everything about linux. Kali: I want to break into my neighbor's wifi.
@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT
@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT 3 місяці тому
Gentoo: i want an excuse to buy an AMD Threadripper Pro 5995 WX
@ArthurKhazbs
@ArthurKhazbs 3 місяці тому
LMDE: I heard bad things about Ubuntu but good things about Linux Mint
@KizukiKotataki
@KizukiKotataki 29 днів тому
LFS: I want to build everything from scratch. NixOS: I want a taste of you.
@TheSillyB0y
@TheSillyB0y 26 днів тому
Fedora: I got it as part of my computer when I set it up
@indetermite
@indetermite 26 днів тому
Tails: I need to hide from the feds.
@nBp4tB12
@nBp4tB12 3 місяці тому
If you want to switch to Linux but are not sure, I have one piece of advice for you: "Start by switching to open source programs". I mean, I started switching all my soft to open source about 2 years before I fully switched to Linux, and that made my switch very easy because I only had to change the OS, not every single program I was used to.
@ArthurKhazbs
@ArthurKhazbs 3 місяці тому
Cool advice actually!
@Rafael-Morais
@Rafael-Morais 3 місяці тому
This is the best advice, honestly. Back in college I was messing with open-source programs because they wouldn't cost me a penny, and I decided to stick with them (LibreOffice, GIMP, Tux Guitar, etc). That was way before I decided to switch to Linux, and when that day came, the switch was much easier.
@computernerd8157
@computernerd8157 3 місяці тому
I agree, I also would suggest duel booting for the more tech incline user. You dont have to give up windows 100% if you dont want to.
@Blox117
@Blox117 3 місяці тому
biggest problem with linux is that crap doesnt work and you have to understand command line arguments, networking, and code in order to get simple software to work. if linux just worked like windows everyone would use it
@nBp4tB12
@nBp4tB12 3 місяці тому
@@Blox117 I would say that Linux is not for you. I mean, a lot of Linux users can be divided into 2 groups: 1. They don't like Windows and Mac and are willing to use Linux even if it is more difficult. 2. They want to understand and customize their system much more than with Windows or Mac. As for "just works", I would say that Linux does indeed just works for some users. But the opposite is also true, I mean I have problems in Windows that are hard to solve, although in Linux it just works. If you just want to choose Linux and everything works without any tinkering, maybe Linux is not for you.
@TopiasSalakka
@TopiasSalakka 3 місяці тому
Spreading awareness about Linux really does work. My dad had no problem moving to Linux since he only uses a web browser. Though, part of the reason why he was so willing to change was that he has hated Microsoft since forever... So much that he refused to buy me an Xbox when i was little, got me a Playstation 2 instead.
@kolz4ever1980
@kolz4ever1980 3 місяці тому
😂 sounds like he made the right choice too
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 3 місяці тому
kind of a flimsy example if your dad is essentially not really using Linux
@kolz4ever1980
@kolz4ever1980 3 місяці тому
@@xybersurfer yeah unless he has multiple screens of terminal commands and crying daily and beyond suspiciously about PrIvaCy reeee he's not a real linux user.
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 3 місяці тому
@@kolz4ever1980 no. don't be silly. his dad doesn't even have to go that far. it's common to a little bit more than browse the internet
@STONE6969
@STONE6969 3 місяці тому
Folks take note that this guy is making a Linux video on a Macbook, now thats commitment. Great video, lets get Linux to 10% by the year 2026.
@peterbreis5407
@peterbreis5407 3 місяці тому
Good luck with that. Every year is the year that Linux will become mainstream. But most Linux Users would hate that because they hate Newbies and anyone who isn't using exactly what they are using, which is virtually everyone.
@STONE6969
@STONE6969 3 місяці тому
@@peterbreis5407 Linux has gone up from 2% to 4% in the last year. People are now so fed up, that more are now willing to research and try Linux. People do not hate new people to Linux, in fact we are hoping to get to 10% It would make Linux more relevant and ensure that it stays alive on the Desktop. As far as Servers and overall use, Linux is well in the lead. You are misinformed as many Windows users are.
@peterbreis5407
@peterbreis5407 3 місяці тому
@@STONE6969 I am not a "windows user" although do use it when I have to. I use macOS (various), Windows 11, Linux, ChromeOS, Android and iOS. I am far from misinformed. *OS marketshare* Android 41.64% Windows 29.25% iOS 17.71% OS X 6.57% Unknown 1.93% Linux 1.54% *Desktop OS marketshare* Windows 72.79% OS X 16.35% Unknown 4.61% Linux 3.82% Chrome OS 2.42% FreeBSD 0.01% Linux Users seem to hate _everybody_ and are their own worst enemies. Yes Linux is a great choice for servers, because it is cheaper. Irrelevant to desktop and mobile users.
@colbyboucher6391
@colbyboucher6391 3 місяці тому
@@peterbreis5407 Lmao where the fuck did you get that idea?
@peterbreis5407
@peterbreis5407 3 місяці тому
@@colbyboucher6391 Lmao Linux lmao Users.
@devonnboyd
@devonnboyd 3 місяці тому
Adobe did tip their toe in the Linux landscape in the past releasing Acrobat for Linux but discontinued it back in 2013. I think the cited reason was the difficulty of targeting multiple distros and low adoption. I think the low adoption was due to there being far superior PDF readers that are opensource but thats besides the point. I think the community needs to back a single GUI Package standard in Flatpak and as much as i like AppImage and loath Snaps we need to send them to pasture.
@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT
@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT 3 місяці тому
the adobe substance apps are still natively available for Linux
@objectobject9099
@objectobject9099 3 місяці тому
No, imo the correct solution is for software providers to just distribute tarballs, and leave the packaging to actual packagers. Then they don't have to worry about distro compatibility at all. Flatpak also has some other issues that make it undesirable, and I'd rather not be forced to use it
@tilsgee
@tilsgee 3 місяці тому
@@objectobject9099 either that or .AppImage cause, again, .AppImage behaves the same like .msi / .msix on windows or .dmg / .pkg on macOS
@ltcactus5981
@ltcactus5981 3 місяці тому
​​@@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOATBecause in The VFX industry Linux is THE standard.
@electric26
@electric26 3 місяці тому
​@@objectobject9099this. I don't want to use Flatpak; it may not be slow like it was when I had a HDD, but there's still a slight delay if using SSDs when you launch an app with it for the first time after turning your PC on. It also takes up a lot of extra space that I don't really have 🙃
@alphacraft9658
@alphacraft9658 3 місяці тому
The Finals actually got support recently.
@TheSillyB0y
@TheSillyB0y 26 днів тому
Most games do now, and it's amazing, the only ones I can't get on mine are new CoD and Fortnite
@coisasnatv
@coisasnatv 3 місяці тому
Linux isn't more popular because it doesn't work with the stuff you need to work with. I started with *Slackware 3.0* so I know how Linux works, but I'm about 50 years old and I don't have the time or inclination to mess around with my computer anymore, I just want to install the software I need to do my job and that's it. Last week I tried Debian on my computer and there is no audio over HDMI using the amdgpu driver for my AMD R7 250 GPU, if you look for a solution you can't find one, you can only find a bunch of "try this or try that" type solutions. I ended up removing Debian and installing Windows 10, HDMI audio works fine.
@Nobody-eg4bi
@Nobody-eg4bi 27 днів тому
I agree with you even though i am Debian user not Windows but you are right, with Debian you always need to digging and sometimes even we have the documentation but for developers, not for the laymen, other times we even don't have the documentation.
@SZF123456
@SZF123456 8 днів тому
Yeah... Debian is super stable. But it can be TOO stable in that drivers and software aren't frequently updated. If you ever want to try again, a lot of people these days recommend Arch for the bleeding edge - yes, if you want bleeding edge go for it. Me, I want a rolling distro with some stability so I have been actively using and enjoying openSUSE Tumbleweed. Working great with my RX 6750 XT and absolutely sees the HDMI out. But I also get why you'd go to Windows too - time is valuable as I've come to learn.
@Daniel_P116
@Daniel_P116 2 місяці тому
Linux community support needs work. I've never had good help. For example, I once had a bizarre experience with adjusting the time zone in Linux. When I posted this in a dedicated forum, the response was, "I don't believe you." No one else was helpful, either.
@user-kk5pq4wc6s
@user-kk5pq4wc6s Місяць тому
my friend on this is Chatgpt and gemini
@Daniel_P116
@Daniel_P116 Місяць тому
@@user-kk5pq4wc6s Those didn't exist yet. A few years off.
@Nobody-eg4bi
@Nobody-eg4bi 27 днів тому
Linux community support does not know Linux 😆😂
@Axatron
@Axatron 6 днів тому
@@user-kk5pq4wc6s How old do you think these 2 things are? Maybe he had the problem 5-10 years ago, who knows?
@Axatron
@Axatron 6 днів тому
Linux community? The internet is full of useless people talking/not talking about anything, not just linux.
@milosCivejovidar
@milosCivejovidar 3 місяці тому
Linux is the quiet kid in the class that reads book and knows more about the subject than the teacher, but keeps low and doesn't get invited to parties.
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 3 місяці тому
that's not quite accurate. i would say Linux is the quiet kid that knows more, but because of it doesn't know how to apply it. how to keep things simple
@Jacknzyeah
@Jacknzyeah 3 місяці тому
I use Arch, BTW
@verdox0
@verdox0 3 місяці тому
@@xybersurfer more like the quiet kid who stays to himself and works on his career until he has his dream job while other people are living from paycheck to paycheck because every company uses linux in their servers but every random person who has a pc uses windows
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 3 місяці тому
@@verdox0 i disagree with "stays to himself", because of the number of people that typically show up when you criticize Linux. i don't understand the rest of your comment. are you suggesting that using Linux is the only way to work on your career?
@verdox0
@verdox0 3 місяці тому
@@xybersurfer no just no. linux stays to himself because he doesnt focus on partying and trying to show off, he focuses on being practical and hard working. because linux doesnt make itself easy to use and accessible and user friendly like windows, linux is just a good and reliable os but wont work for dummies. the point where i said the career part is that every normal person uses windows, even ur grandma but every server and more professional developers who dont work in game development use linux because it just works easier for that purpose.
@user-pg5sz2vn1w
@user-pg5sz2vn1w 3 місяці тому
i think it comes to down to the fact that people think its hard/confusing, and that is compounded by the fact that there are so many distros.
@amigalemming
@amigalemming 4 дні тому
There are so many versions of Windows!
@NostalgicOccultist
@NostalgicOccultist 2 дні тому
@@amigalemming And only two are still supported and used widely, one of which is going to be discontinued in the next few years. There will soon be one usable version of Windows.
@CathrineMacNiel
@CathrineMacNiel 16 годин тому
@@NostalgicOccultist only one? Mhm... Windows 11 Home, 11 Pro, 11 Pro Education, 11 Pro for Workstations, 11 Enterprise, 11 Education, 11 Mixed Reality, and to that all those N and S versions. yeah only one version of Windows.
@khayyamaurelius912
@khayyamaurelius912 3 місяці тому
Pretty much the main two killers of linux popularity are: - It is not the default OS most of the time. - Some popular software either do not exist on linux, or their linux versions are merely an afterthought and doesn't run as good.
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 4 дні тому
not being the default OS is a result. not a reason
@amigalemming
@amigalemming 4 дні тому
@@xybersurfer No, in the past Bill Gates only allowed PC manufactures to preinstall Windows on all sold PCs or in none.
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 4 дні тому
@@amigalemming how long ago was that? that's no longer the case
@SamirOumghar01
@SamirOumghar01 23 години тому
It's very hard to use , to learn and to solve it's unlimired iasues...
@justarandomguy2478
@justarandomguy2478 3 місяці тому
Watching this on Fedora
@fedora
@fedora 3 місяці тому
👀
@justarandomguy2478
@justarandomguy2478 3 місяці тому
@@fedora Um, hi Fedora!
@ant-dev
@ant-dev 3 місяці тому
👏👏👏👏👏👏
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
@BlueEyedVibeChecker 3 місяці тому
As a developer, I have a good reason. Most distros are trying to be Windows but not, and lack any identity of their own outside of "No we have Windows at home" just with less compatibility/support. Moreover, there are too many distros trying to do the same things, but differently. We need three distros, one for gaming, one for professionals, and a lightweight distro. The fact is, I make game for the Dreamcast and Windows PCs, a game I make on Windows 7 works on Windows 8/8.1/10 and 11, while a game made with Linux Mint in mind didn't work 100% on Ubuntu, SteamOS was flawless, while Arch crashed upon opening and PopOS had no sound. Linux will never catch on until it becomes more streamlined. Not for games developers, nor for the majority of software engineers. Because it's less compatible with itself than MacOS is with Windows.
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
@BlueEyedVibeChecker 3 місяці тому
I would like to add, 98% of crash/bug reports came from the Linux users, while PC users as a whole make up just 42% of my player base. Only 2 percent came from Windows and those were limited to AMD graphics cards due to an issue with Direct X 11, Direct X 12 and an update to support the (12_1) feature set fixed the issues on Windows. And because I make them for Dreamcast primarily, I add support for Windows 98/2000/XP and those have had no issue reports. A further breakdown of issue reports is as follows. Linux Mint: 2% Ubuntu: 18% SteamOS: 12% PopOS: 33% Arch: 22% Debian: 13% To summarise, I made the Linux port with Linux Mint(Cinnamon) in mind, hence the higher compatibility, however, I cannot, and like most, don't want to have to make a separate patch/version for each and every distro to make native ports work. This would introduce more issues, such as physical version sales having to contain all on one disc which could cause conflicts in the files, or having to separate each version into its own disc and overcomplicating the process. And as an indie developer, I have neither the time to do so myself, nor the resources to hire someone to do so. I used to never understand why developers wouldn't make Linux ports, but in recent years, I've never sympathised more with them.
@rookooful
@rookooful 11 днів тому
Steam os was designed to make windows games run on it that's why it works.
@CathrineMacNiel
@CathrineMacNiel 16 годин тому
I don't understand how you didn't achieve api compatibility across the board between Linux Mint and Ubuntu since they are nearly the same thing (Mint is forked from Ubuntu). Perhaps some libraries were outdated, and you failed to account for this possible discrepancy, as in not pinning the required dependencies?
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
@BlueEyedVibeChecker 14 годин тому
@@CathrineMacNiel Beats me. At first I tried using a compatibility layer for DX 11 to varying degrees of success, but eventually switched to Vulkan for Linux since it worked better that way. It does work better now on Ubuntu than on Debian-based distros, but since that would still leave a native Linux version potentially broken on *some* distros, I've decided to just use Windows and have it work on Linux through Proton on Steam and use Wine or another backend on the PC DVD version to make it Linux compatible.
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
@BlueEyedVibeChecker 14 годин тому
@@rookooful SteamOS is fine and all, but Linux Mint is really my distro of choice for Linux. I mostly use Windows 10 since my old PC CD/DVD games for Windows 95 - XP just work on it, but don't support Linux or MacOS. But ideally I'd like to use Mint as my daily OS since I've found it to be the most comfortable and compatible with the things I'd do on Windows.
@infinitymarketing3410
@infinitymarketing3410 2 місяці тому
1. Compitability issues with drivers... 2. Linux being sooo good that no one ever felt to market it... 3. Dirty Microsoft tactics
@SamirOumghar01
@SamirOumghar01 23 години тому
There is no Microsoft tactics. Windows works out of the box easily and smouthly... Linux is very hard to use and to learn. Linux has infinite issues to solve everday not only hardware compatibility! I think we need to wait for at least 10 years to get a good OS for personal computers that can replace Windows and Mac OS.
@CathrineMacNiel
@CathrineMacNiel 16 годин тому
@@SamirOumghar01 perfect Microsoft tactics on display here.
@combatepistemologist8382
@combatepistemologist8382 3 місяці тому
The problem I've had with Linux is how difficult it is when you have a problem. You'll google a problem, get ten different solutions, none of which work because of assumptions the author failed to mention, or because it's for a different version, or a dozen other reasons. It's just one thing after another: To solve A you have to solve B; to solve B your have to solve C; to solve C you have to solve D, and so on. There aren't really any reasonably definitive solution spaces such as exist with commercially supported products.
@aeases-
@aeases- 3 місяці тому
Just out of curiosity, whats your setup, and what problems did you encounter? Anecdotally I've ran linux for a little over a year now and the extent of my problems have been solved by flipping a switch to give an app certain permissions it for some reason didn't give itself. I've never seen a linux app require a "different version"? (outside of Davinci Resolve)
@Trizzi2931
@Trizzi2931 3 місяці тому
May I know what problem did you face? I have been using fedora as my main distro for quite time and have never faced any problem. Given that I am a programmer so most of the time I only interact with projects I am working on and just browsing internet but I can not see someone can face such problem for which they can not find a solution for just day to day use. There are bunch of online forums/community for linux where you can post your ans and get help pretty easily.
@Skelterbane69
@Skelterbane69 3 місяці тому
We can probably help you here, so let's hear the problems
@mechswrd
@mechswrd 3 місяці тому
Using linux for 3+ years never have i ever had to fix solve more than 2 things as you described it. I may had to solve multiple issues for something to run but they are often independent issues. And yes it happened with me that all solutions didn't worked and make me loose my mind.. But late i find out its some silly mistakes such as hidden typos or forgetting to copy necessary files or whatever...
@axethepenguin
@axethepenguin 3 місяці тому
Mostly the reason I don’t use Linux either, I used to go from Linux to macOS back to Linux. But for some reason all the issues I had were apparently so obscure that no one online knew how to fix it and the ones that did are the very toxic Linux community. My distro of choice is elementaryOS mostly because I love the DE. But if I had issues on macOS, 9/10 software update will fix it, someone on Apple’s forums or discord will know how to fix it. not to mention that I have no idea how to install any program on Linux without the terminal because I don’t understand rpm or deb or how to install either. Terminal is nice and all but like come on!
@lukchem
@lukchem 3 місяці тому
I think what Linux needs is hardware manufacturer making devices with Linux. If somebody, that doesn’t know much about technology wants to buy a new computer he would go into an tech store and ask the person there what Computer to buy. The shop assistant would then show them different hardware and software and explain the differences but since there are no Linux devices present he would never mention the existence of Linux to the customer. Only Windows, Android, Mac, iPad and maybe ChromeOS are getting mentioned so the division of the customer will fall between these 5 operating systems.
@nukblack6509
@nukblack6509 3 місяці тому
Really ? System67 or Tuxedo are just two companies who are making devices for linux with their own linux systems both based on Ubuntu LTS..For gamers you have the Steam deck it is a linux based gaming console.
@formbi
@formbi 3 місяці тому
There are some PCs which ship with GNU, but they're not really popular. The Steam Deck is becoming kinda popular and does ship it (there is also some other company which plans to use Valve's distro), so that may be a start.
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 3 місяці тому
your first mistake to sell a computer with Linux to someone that doesn't know much about technology. you are setting them up for failure. you second mistake is assuming that everyone that knows more about technology, wants to tinker with Linux. personally i don't care that much about hardware and software compatibility. usability is the real problem. solving that will really get adoption (not the other way around). the popularity of Chrome on desktop is a good example of how being preinstalled is not that important
@formbi
@formbi 3 місяці тому
@@xybersurfer GNU is way more usable than Windows, which randomly decides to do stupid stuff or just slow down to a crawl
@colbyboucher6391
@colbyboucher6391 3 місяці тому
System 76, Lenovo...
@pascalillustration3650
@pascalillustration3650 2 місяці тому
I use a computer for productivity. Especially illustration. This is my point of view: Simple answer: Linux isn’t more popular because it’s not user friendly to end users. There are much improvements but there’s still the terminal with all these commands that no end user knows. Linux users seems not to understand how difficult this is for end users. In the 80’s computers used command lines and therefore were only used by people who understood it. Then in the 90’s the graphical user interface became popular. This was something end users understood and much more people started using a computer. Linux after all these years still is very dependent on the command line with the terminal. And for the end user this is difficult. Flatpack, distros, gnome, … what does it mean? Most end users don’t understand it. So they stick to Windows or Mac OS with their easy to use GUI. The software alternatives on Linux are good and some are even great, but what if you use an external device like a Wacom tablet or scanner? There are no drivers for it. Only tricks to get it work more or less with… the command line again. And some apps with only basic functionality. For me, an end user who wants to be productive, the terminal is what holds me back from using linux as my main system. I tried, but for productivity it isn’t very usable without the command line. Most people can’t work with it.
@ZeerakImran
@ZeerakImran Місяць тому
I would like to add, a lot of people understand it but don't want to deal with the hassle as it is all additional burden and for what? There are a lot of smart people out there including developers who may even use linux in their workplace, but will come home to use their Windows or Mac OS running device. They are capable of running Linux, but they choose not to. Imagine learning a language no one speaks. What was the point of that? Was it worth it? Doesn't make me any smarter now that I know it. I was just as smart before only with more opportunities and time which I turned down to learn this useless language/skill. Guess that wasn't the smart thing. No worries. I'll learn from this experience.
@Lestibournes
@Lestibournes День тому
Nobody uses the terminal unless he wants to. The ability to fix your own issues is a strength, but it's also a choice. If it was windows and you encountered the same problem you'd go to a repair shop.
@pascalillustration3650
@pascalillustration3650 День тому
@@Lestibournes True. If you have the skills, you can do great things, but the problem is that not everybody has these computerskills or don't want to spend lots of time to find a solution. And a problem can be something like installing a driver. You can do that on Mac OS and Windows, but in Linux it's searching for a solution. There's nothing wrong with that, but not everyone want to spend much time to these technical things. It's a choice you have to make.
@ZeerakImran
@ZeerakImran День тому
@@Lestibournes yup. Or you would find an easy click click youtube tutorial otherwise repair shop.
@Lestibournes
@Lestibournes День тому
@@pascalillustration3650 true, but there's another solution: if it doesn't work then it doesn't work. Life is as complicated as you make it. In Linux there's an empowering culture of controlling your system and making stuff work, but you could just decide that if something isn't supported then it doesn't work, end of story. That's what normal users do. You could complain that in Linux when you in install it yourself on hardware that came with a different OS you're more likely to encounter stuff not working, but notice the premise. The whole situation you willingly put yourself into is unsupported. Mac OS supports less hardware, but nobody complains about how well Mac OS runs on an HP or Dell laptop. Windows has worse hardware support on a fresh install. The reason nobody complains is because they get it pre-installed on supported hardware, or because they adjust their expectations. You take the route of being a tinkerer and throwing random hardware at Linux, thrn complain about it only working 99% when Mac OS would maybe reach 50% and Windows 85% in the same circumstances.
@markusTegelane
@markusTegelane 3 місяці тому
Just remember: you can always dual boot or run a Windows VM under Linux for some apps that are Windows-only :)
@SchmidtDrums
@SchmidtDrums 3 місяці тому
That does not solve the multiplayer online games issue though.
@markusTegelane
@markusTegelane 3 місяці тому
@@SchmidtDrums how?
@SchmidtDrums
@SchmidtDrums 3 місяці тому
@@markusTegelane Anticheat detects the use of VMs
@markusTegelane
@markusTegelane 3 місяці тому
@@SchmidtDrums yes, but you can dual boot as I mentioned and I don't think there are anti cheats that block dual booting
@SchmidtDrums
@SchmidtDrums 3 місяці тому
@@markusTegelane yeah true, my brain seemingly got hung up on the VM.
@_DRMR_
@_DRMR_ 3 місяці тому
It's really a chicken-V-egg problem. The amount of comments I've seen of users saying "if only software X ran on Linux, then I'd switch over because I hate Win/mac so much". And companies going "if only the market share was at least X% we'd have an incentive to port our software over". Build it and they will come.
@haakon_b
@haakon_b Місяць тому
No sane company that wants to earn money is going into this sharktank full of neckbeards that wants everything to be free and open source. Some tried, all quit after a short time.
@NostalgicOccultist
@NostalgicOccultist 2 дні тому
You can't wait for people to cross the river before building the bridge, right?
@seangreenhalgh7921
@seangreenhalgh7921 Місяць тому
You don't need to use the terminal on Linux. Especially popular distributions. Ubuntu and Linux Mint, almost everything can be done using a GUI.
@armamentarmedarm1699
@armamentarmedarm1699 4 дні тому
...until you run into a problem with dependencies. Until that is solved, Linux will be for enterprises and nerds.
@seangreenhalgh7921
@seangreenhalgh7921 4 дні тому
@@armamentarmedarm1699 usually when you install software, if there are missing dependencies, it tells you the exact name of that dependency. So you literally just install that dependency. If you stick to Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora or OpenSuse. Almost every package is made to be compatible with those distributions. Can't go wrong.
@seangreenhalgh7921
@seangreenhalgh7921 4 дні тому
​@@armamentarmedarm1699 Big software companies like Google make software for Linux. They make Google Chrome and Google Earth compatible with Debian, Ubuntu, OpenSuse and Fedora/Red Hat (three of these are maintained by commercial companies - which are just like Microsoft). There's no difference in how they test Chrome software for Windows or Linux. Since say Google Chrome is designed to run on Ubuntu. There shouldn't be any dependencies because Google would have tested it on Ubuntu before they released it. If there is ever a dependency problem, which I can't remember the last time I had one. Normally the package will be installable from the command line. But to be fair, Windows has dependency problems too! How many times have you installed a piece of software and you needed to go and install something else to get it to run? Lots. Exactly the same on Windows. Another thing - because of Flatpak apps and Snap Apps, dependency issues are becoming a thing of the past with software, because they are self contained. Look up Flatpak software on Flathub. You can Flatpak software for nearly any Linux distro, dependencies are self contained when you install it.
@NostalgicOccultist
@NostalgicOccultist 2 дні тому
As someone who just recently used both Kubuntu and Mint, this is absolutely not true. I had to use the terminal on a daily basis because the GUI didn't cover all the basic setup and customization needs. Not to mention for things like mouse acceleration the GUI doesn't actually work, you have to disable it manually. Many such cases.
@deultima
@deultima 3 місяці тому
I think it actually comes down to what is shipped on the hardware by default. What made Android and iOS so popular wasn't that people decided they wanted to use that OS. They wanted the hardware, and the software came with it. Likewise with most pre-built systems and laptops ship with Windows by default. Like you said in your video, people are more likely to stick with what they have unless something groundbreaking happens. The Steam Deck proves this this point, that hardware came with LInux by default, and is probably responsible for the largest increase in Linux use in years. I think it took the Linux market share from 2% to 3% alone. Otherwise it's mainly just techy types and those who require a special use case like wanting more privacy making the switch.
@309electronics5
@309electronics5 3 місяці тому
Aint android based on linux? And linux is basically just a Kernel where Ha layers and runtimes are stacked ontop
@deultima
@deultima 3 місяці тому
Android is based on a heavily modified version of the Linux Kernel. It's nothing like Desktop/Server Linux that uses GNU/Linux as its base. However that's kinda irrelevant to the conversation as what I'm saying is the way we get more Linux users is by putting hardware in people's hands that has it installed by default. Hardware people want like the Steam Deck. I only use Android as an example as it's become one of the most popular OS in just a few years and it was done by putting the hardware in peoples hands with it on there by default. The focus was never to sell the OS but rather the devices that came with it.@@309electronics5
@rallen7660
@rallen7660 3 місяці тому
I think you're correct. How many people are willing to wipe Windows or MacOS off a working computer to install something new? Kids? Most people just run the computer with what it came with until it crashes or they upgrade to a new machine. In which case, they want the same OS as what they were running before. Most people seem to find it physically painful to learn anything new, and it gets worse as the people get older.
@formbi
@formbi 3 місяці тому
@@309electronics5 Yes, that's the sad and confusing reality of calling the GNU system "Linux". People think Android is almost the same as GNU, when they only use the same kernel and the userspace (which you almost always interact with) is very different.
@CorneliusCornbread
@CorneliusCornbread 3 місяці тому
I strongly disagree regarding gaming. Linux gaming via steam, IS one click play, and 95% of games do just work. I've been playing all my steam games very easily on Fedora 39 and it's been great. And if it's not a steam game then lutris is also pretty dead simple, otherwise bottles is really nice for some advanced setups if you really want to squeeze max performance. The only catch is VR currently which is quite broken.
@ClokworkGremlin
@ClokworkGremlin Місяць тому
Whether the concern is founded or not, the fact is that terminal reliance *is* a huge barrier to entry for Linux use. The fact that you can get through Mint without touching the terminal 99% of the time is irrelevant, because nobody who doesn't use Mint regularly actually knows this. Whether it's true or not, Windows users "know" that Linux requires command line familiarity. That's the problem.
@Rangerman9404
@Rangerman9404 3 місяці тому
I started using Linux back in October of last year. I was given 2 old laptops that ran Windows 8, (strike one), and the previous owner had forgotten their passwords, (strike two), and of course, paying money to put a clean, licensed install of Windows 10 on them was strike three. As for the terminal, I still have a lot to learn, but I found out that you can bluff your way around without it for the most part and that Linux is for most things as easy to use as Windows or MAC OS.
@ExZeMIP
@ExZeMIP 2 місяці тому
people buy windows licenses??
@JimboFixIt
@JimboFixIt 4 дні тому
@@ExZeMIP Theres a youtube video showing how you can get chatgpt to give you product keys :) though I dont think it is truly "generating" them... more just finding the keys from text its learned.
@ExZeMIP
@ExZeMIP 4 дні тому
@@JimboFixIt It's just a crazy concept to me, it's not like Microsoft even does anything against people that don't even activate their windows just some watermark and restricted features. If you really want them to go away there are scripts on GitHub that activate it for you or just find keys but eh that's much more work
@NostalgicOccultist
@NostalgicOccultist 2 дні тому
@@JimboFixIt As far as I know it was trying to find and replicate patterns in known license keys and was able to produce at least one key per batch of 100 guesses, I think ChatGPT updated the user version of it to no longer guess license keys, but who knows
@JamesKaufman1973
@JamesKaufman1973 3 місяці тому
The reason is because many of us rely on proprietary software like Adobe's Creative Cloud that don't have viable (meaning GOOD) Linux alternatives. There are no good, comparable Linux versions of Adobe's Illustrator or InDesign, so people like me are stuck in the Windows/Mac OS prison.
@michaelkeller5008
@michaelkeller5008 3 місяці тому
and not to mention those who have to run proprietary software (like eg. driver-card-readers in europe, tax-software, aso) - eventough wine made big leaps recently, it still does not run well enough to emulate a windows-enviroment so that software'd run. Why switching on linux when you have to run a VM with windows 90% of the day? (written from my linux-pc i use at home - where i still have a VM for the software i can not run on linux)
@MFTAQ
@MFTAQ 3 місяці тому
I have been playing with Linux for a little over a year and recently installed Fedora Silver Blue and I still consider myself very much a noobie. I truly feel that immutable distros will be the future of Linux because I love the aspect that the core of distro cannot be broken as easily as a regular distro which will give folks coming over a better feel and let them just work.
@fedora
@fedora 3 місяці тому
We do love our Atomic editions! Silverblue is a great pick!
@BoxCox
@BoxCox 3 місяці тому
They are interesting but then there is NixOS with snapshots of your system and shell environments. It's really hard to beat it in reliability once you set it up.
@ernon69
@ernon69 3 місяці тому
When I got into Programming it came naturally to use Linux on my Desktop and Laptop as well, it's just safer to use, minimal, very customizable in terms of looks and workspace behaviours which is absolutely lit when you are a digital professional. Another thing that makes Linux nice, especially to smn who's on a budget is the fact that Linux will make better use of the old hardware, usable at least while MacOs and Windows 11 will just make it slow and awkward.
@fedora
@fedora 3 місяці тому
Rome wasn't built in a day, neither is the year of the Linux desktop 😉
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 4 дні тому
i hope you are aware that Linux has had decades
@bobmauranne6829
@bobmauranne6829 3 місяці тому
The problem for a newbie is the amount of choices. So many distros, so many desktop environments, it's easy to have a bad first experience because of a bad first choice and switch back to windows forever (for example: the infamous IQ test to choose the right Debian iso on their website). I think SomeOrdinnaryGamer is right, that we, Linux users, should not be gatekeepers but welcomers, we should not mock those who crave for accessibility and OSes that are easy to use. We should not convert people by telling them Linux is best (and if they don't use it, it's because they lack intelligence), but by showing them Linux SERVES them.
@treetoon_
@treetoon_ Місяць тому
If you want Linux to succeed then everyone needs to use the same distro, it's that simple really; the distro should operate in such a way that the console is never used, the distro needs to be designed from a user perspective. If at any point anyone has to interact with the console doing the tasks you can accomplish on windows (even some of the more complex tasks) then you've failed; there are no exceptions to this, zero tolerance. As of now, linux's design is around linux hobbyists, it's not around the average PC user. If this is done right, then people will naturally begin to switch and the industry (like adobe) will be forced to adapt. As of now, things are too scattered. You can't just tell companies to design their software for multiple distros, it's too much time spent on nothing. One distro... Zero console interaction tolerance, that's it... Every other problem you can think of flows from these two.
@famousmwofficial8046
@famousmwofficial8046 Місяць тому
Chrome os is the perfect user oriented Linux out there. So good and so user focused that the gnuvangelists say it's not Linux and give it it's own category. There will always be chaos in Linux maybe if linus torvalds and the foundation decided to lay some ground rules there could be unity
@mlevesque33
@mlevesque33 3 місяці тому
I'm a new Linux user as well. It was confusing at first, finding the distro I wanted, the desktop environment (as a Windows user you don't care much since it's the same for every user), what kernel to use. I understood I didn't have to choose the kernel but mostly the desktop environment but then I didn't know if there was any distro that were new user friendly until I found out which ones. So it took me quite a few weeks deciding what to use. Once you're in tho, I think it becomes easier and clearer what to use. I still have Windows 10 installed for some of my software but my daily driver is now Linux.
@Lestibournes
@Lestibournes День тому
Reasons: 1. Isn't available for purchase preinstalled at retail stores. 2. No advertising. 3. No commercial app store. 4. Users are already used to something else, and change is difficult and scary.
@mjmmohiuddin4898
@mjmmohiuddin4898 2 місяці тому
If I copy paste all the files and directories from 1 Linux system to another linex system, would I be able to run the same application which was there is previous system from which I have copied the files and directories. Please kindly check and advise...
@TuxLiberator
@TuxLiberator 3 місяці тому
Your team seriously need to work on for .rpm packages or least favoring us with flatpaks.
@SurfsharkAcademy
@SurfsharkAcademy 3 місяці тому
Flatpak support is being considered, for now there's a beta version of the app on snapstore
@Drew_pew_pew_pew
@Drew_pew_pew_pew 3 місяці тому
Your comment needs more upvotes. It's a little hypocrite to make a 13:40 long video on how you love linux and in the meantime only support debian based distro's. I'm not going to install snap on fedora just for this single usecase
@TuxLiberator
@TuxLiberator 3 місяці тому
​@@SurfsharkAcademyNo way Snap packages are exceptionally slow and does NOT meet all FOSS criteria. Your team must ignore packaging in Snap and consider Flatpak completely.
@TuxLiberator
@TuxLiberator 3 місяці тому
@@Drew_pew_pew_pewExactly I use openSUSE and their team has ignored Snap packaging because it posses security risks and has never defaulted to Yast install and will never do so
@fedora
@fedora 3 місяці тому
​@@SurfsharkAcademy👀
@thecastiel69
@thecastiel69 3 місяці тому
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
@mapu1
@mapu1 3 місяці тому
Yea, but saying Linux includes non-GNU Linux distributions too, and is shorter and easier to say as umbrella term as it also implies the Linux licensing rules apply to the thing, implying the legal definition of the thing that is broader than the more specific label. Saying Linux is better than saying GNU-Linux, and couple of distros not using GNU. Actually you should be saying "Open source operating system software containing" and then list all the distros you are talking about and that your definition applies to. Cause you know we would not want to exclude information for sake of brevity.
@sergeykish
@sergeykish 3 місяці тому
He is talking about Linux Desktop that's built on top of GNU, Freedesktop, Mozilla and countless other projects. Most of Linux users don't care about software freedoms, just like on Android.
@riturajkansabanik
@riturajkansabanik 3 місяці тому
One of the main reason I reinstalled windows 11 after trying linux beside the lack of adobe apps is weird bugs that I encountered. Like I used my msi laptop to install linux and right after installation I faced a weird brightness bug which randomly turns up or down the brightness. Then when I updated the amd gpu driver it blew out the whole brightness slider and capped the display at a blinding brightness.
@maxyudin
@maxyudin 2 місяці тому
PEBCAK
@needsLITHIUM
@needsLITHIUM 3 місяці тому
Even if malware is developed for linux, the OS is designed in a way that makes it inherently more secure and more, because it follows the Unix/Posix philosophy, which is also one of the big reasons MacOS is so secure, being based on Free BSD/NeXTSTEP BSD Unix, and the Mach BSD replacement Kernel. These systems don't just benefit from security through obscurity, though. The fact that the code is openly perusable by anyone makes bug bounties a more streamline process, and many software and toolkit/widget projects are works of passion - people making software because they themselves plan to use it, and we just happen to benefit from the use of the same software.
@ZeerakImran
@ZeerakImran Місяць тому
i'm not sure i can agree with that. throwing sudos around is the opposite of secure.
@needsLITHIUM
@needsLITHIUM Місяць тому
@@ZeerakImran individual users can have sudoer permissions granted or blocked based on Unix permissions. Every time you type "sudo" in the command line, you need to type in your password. Likewise, "su" can be used instead, requiring a separate root password. Linux, BSD, and Mac OS all utilize this security structure. If you don't understand how that's inherently more secure than something like how Windows works, I can only recommend that you do some research. If nearly all IT professionals tell you you're wrong, and you still disagree, idk what to tell you.
@neonshadow5005
@neonshadow5005 3 місяці тому
I'll be swapping to Linux with my new PC. So I *will* be using it, actually!
@fedora
@fedora 3 місяці тому
Welcome, we have cookies! 🍪
@singam7436
@singam7436 3 місяці тому
Also, I feel that lack of industry standard software. In particular, I would switch to Linux but can't at the moment because the exam software my university uses only supports windows and Mac OS
@Mavendow
@Mavendow 2 дні тому
Thumbnail: "The Best OS You'll Never Use" Me, on Arch with zen-kernel: _"Hard to beat this..."_
@BruceWayne15325
@BruceWayne15325 3 місяці тому
I love Linux for surfing. I run it in a VM all the time. It will never be my main OS simply because it doesn't have the software that I want, and hardware is not as well supported on Linux.
@unixson8038
@unixson8038 3 місяці тому
As a developer, and a linux enthusiast myself, I might add something from a technical standpoint 1. immutable distros - yes, it's the future of Linux. If the system can't be easily broken by a user, it's a big fat plus. And having an actual restore points that actually *work* is fantastic. In fact that is a selling point of chromebooks. Oh and Valve already done it with steamOS. So it's a no brainer not to try. 2. single or at least 2 packaging formats that work everywhere. We do have Flatpaks and Appimages but they are still a bit ruff around the edges. And rn we have another format war... But despite all of that things are improving pretty fast. 3. finish transitioning to Wayland. It's just out of the question. 4. finish transitioning to pipewire both for audio and video. and make sure apps are using portals. so that means low latency, permissions, security and all that jazz Not bad huh? Considering the fact that desktop linux really became a thing only recently) Everything beyond that would be an icing on a cake! 0. Oh and I would like to see a linux-wide app store where you can actually sell your work (thinks steam but for apps that support linux, or at least accessible via proton?). Flathub already announced that they might support paid apps and even subscription models. Sooo... Fingers crossed I guess. -1. You 👏 Have 👏 To 👏 Pre-install 👏 Linux 👏 On 👏 Computers! Heck, even something like Chrome OS would do, as people are familiar with it, and Google is making huge efforts to make it a "real" linux distro so people could install Steam and other "non web-based software". If that works, I would be so happy!
@akeem2983
@akeem2983 3 місяці тому
May be the best reply that I have seen here
@alexeypolevoybass
@alexeypolevoybass Місяць тому
As for Pipewire and Wayland, upcoming Ubuntu LTS is very promising in this regard. I'm using it to livestream my bass playing with Studio One (yes, it's in public beta status on Linux), everything I touch works as intended except for rare and minor hiccups in desktop/window capture (I blame this one on OBS). Immutable distros? That's great for some use cases like IoT, but desktop users tend to add more and more apps while using the system, so there should be a sane way to switch between those immutable states. As for packaging formats… Flatpak sucks ass (albeit much less than Snap), AppImage is too rough.
@rje4242
@rje4242 3 місяці тому
I came across this while browsing youtube on my LinuxMint system. maybe a better point than ecosystem would be "predictable workflow between tools". when I went to upload a file to Discord, the file open dialog was placed behind the Discord window, instead of in front as a modal dialog. Clipboard also doesn't "just work" like it does on windows, requiring additional packages and not supporting all formats.
@theroguetomato5362
@theroguetomato5362 3 місяці тому
Few people use Linux as a desktop (I do), but Windows has completely lost the server market to Linux and FreeBSD.
@Pokeys
@Pokeys 3 місяці тому
Ive been thinking of switching to Linux (specifically Ubuntu) from Windows 11
@pedromain
@pedromain 3 місяці тому
I tried, I don't recomend that. Even tough Ubuntu was great for first time Linux users is not anymore. It doesnt support flatpacks wich is easier for us Windows users. So I came back to W11. Another distro would be more suitable for first time users like Mint. Is just sad how ugly Mint is.
@gimcrack555
@gimcrack555 3 місяці тому
@@pedromain If you want a good looking Linux out of the box. I would say look at Netrunner or PCLinuxOS for starters. Myself liked MX, so I'm a MX user.
@dreamskongz4781
@dreamskongz4781 3 місяці тому
​​@@pedromain I recommend checking out Debian if you find Mint ugly. Yes you could install your own Desktop environment and change how Mint looks but I do understand it's not practical for most users. Debian on the other hand lets you choose your Desktop environment during installation (from my knowledge Debian 12 does), choosing either KDE Plasma or Gnome during your installation will be my recommendation to make your Desktop look sexy. Debian is not the "latest and greatest" in terms of how often they update but is one of the most stable distro you can find. I highly recommend going for KDE with Debian, it comes with an application called Discover that acts as a GUI store to download applications, including Flatpak's packages.
@marcogoncalves1073
@marcogoncalves1073 3 місяці тому
Im a fairly okay-ish linux user, and frankly? Don't do it. It's a pain in the ass. My recommendation? Dual-boot. Try out linux, it has a lot of good things going for it, but it also has a lot of downsides. Nvidia graphics card? Get ready to have the worst experience of your life. Currently, whevener I have a youtube video open, if for some reason I decide that I want to hover the mouse over the video, forget it, everything lags. I have a i7-4790k and a 1070ti, it definetely can run youtube without a hitch on Windows. Obviously not counting all of the glitches I had, that one is just the most annoying one right now. People love to trash on windows as if it was the worst operating system on earth, but apart from the Terminal (which you can kind of use with WSL2) it's easily the one single operating system where I can always boot up and be confident that I'll be able to do whatever I wanna do. Linux is amazing, but windows, at least for me, is miles ahead in terms of usability and performance (and even efficiency, though, my laptop currently has about the same battery life on windows as it does in linux, I recommend System-76 power for that).
@fabiandrinksmilk6205
@fabiandrinksmilk6205 3 місяці тому
@@pedromain I not such a fan of Mint's UI either, but it is great for really old hardware since it's actually lighter. I'd say that Fedora has now replaced Ubuntu's previous position. It's a shame how Ubuntu now suffers from being owned by a big corporate entity (Canonical) who's now pushing their proprietary packaging standard called Snap.
@jazilzaim
@jazilzaim 3 місяці тому
The other issue is that there is a strong lack of adoption and it hasn't been appealing to developers that need to reach more users. Especially during this high-interest rate period, it is tough to focus solely on fun and community projects. Usually for a new platform, a company like Google or Apple will provide subsidies or some good framework to jumpstart a developer's journey to build apps for their platforms. But in this case there hasn't been a single Linux company that has stepped up except to provide help for cloud deployments. Even for Steam Deck, the user base is quite low to compel the big game developers to also build a Linux version of their game. Right now the only way I see Linux take market share in the desktop realm is if ChromeOS takes off since ChromeOS is Linux-based and technically a Linux distro. ChromeOS already has tapped into the education market, is slowly growing into the enterprise market, and is able to leverage Android developers to build ChromeOS desktop apps similar to how Apple has been able to leverage iOS developers to build macOS apps. Google is a Tier A company with solid marketing and their retail distributions of ChromeOS devices through stores like Walmart and Best Buy does give them a significant leverage to grow Linux and take more market share from Windows as well.
@dorian1370
@dorian1370 День тому
I built my first desktop PC 1 year ago and installed Linux from the begining. Never installed Windows or Mac on it. Triple monitor gaming setup, Musik, Internet. Works smooth and fast! For me I will never go back again.
@heatherharrison264
@heatherharrison264 Місяць тому
I have been using Unix-like systems since 1990, so Linux is natural to me, and I can have a hard time with Windows (which I only use on my work laptop). I must be rather old fashioned; my screen is covered with terminal windows. I would rather type in commands than search through menus. It's what I am used to, so it works well for me. This sort of inertia is a major explanation for why Linux isn't more popular. A lot more people are simply accustomed to Windows and Apple, and these platforms have suites of software that large numbers of people use. Linux is a lot easier than it used to be, but it still requires a higher level of computer literacy than Windows or Mac if you want to do much more than basic activities such as web browsing or watching UKposts videos. I play a lot of video games. Fortunately, I am only interested in single player games, so the big multiplayer games that will not run on Linux are not relevant to me. It used to be very difficult getting video games to run. It is a lot easier now, but it can still require tinkering, and some games are extremely troublesome to get working. Even native Linux games can require tinkering. Depending on the Linux distribution, they can sometimes run into dependency hell, and there have been a couple cases where I found it easier to run the Windows version using Wine than to resolve the dependency problems. Furthermore, NVidia graphics cards have rather crummy drivers on Linux, and these cards have the greatest market share. I ended up getting an AMD graphics card when I built my latest PC, and it has been a better experience so far. AMD supports the open source Mesa drivers. This helps since the community is involved in keeping things running, and very old cards continue to receive support, potentially extending their longevity. Most people don't want to deal with these types of problems, and I can't say that I blame them. I'm glad we have the option of using Linux since it is the system in which I feel most comfortable, but it is likely to remain a niche for people who are used to Unix-like systems, people who have better than average computer skills, people who are devoted to the open source movement, and people who have grown tired of problems related to Windows and Apple and are willing to go through some pain to get out from under those systems.
@sanekibeko
@sanekibeko 3 місяці тому
Number 3 is the reason I'm still on Windows and even Mac. I'm not interested in changing most of the software I use or bought for alternatives. Some of that software is required for my career such as Toonboom Harmony.
@idcrafter-cgi
@idcrafter-cgi 3 місяці тому
the Finals does now run like Apex also runs on Linux
@wlarsen70
@wlarsen70 3 місяці тому
More a question than a comment, but why can't I just auto-install Linux Mint? I went to the Mint website, had to download a .iso file, check to see if it was authentic (via terminal)...and I finally gave up because it was so un-understandable. For an amateur user like me the complexity was overwhelmingly frustrating. I really want to explore Linux, but it is so difficult for me, a basic user, to install. Any advice?
@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT
@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT 3 місяці тому
once you downloaded the ISO you can install a program called balena-etcher to flash the ISO to a USB (⚠️!!!this will wipe all the data from the USB!!!⚠️) now make sure the USB is plugged in and reboot your computer, the next step is to enter your BIOS/UEFI which can be achieved by spamming a specific button while your computer is booting up, this button is usually F2 but it can also be F8, F10, F12, or del. in your BIOS/UEFI there should be a section where you can choose what device to boot from, boot from the USB you flashed earlier, now you should be in the linux mint installer where tou can install your new penguin operating system 🐧 (⚠️!!!this will wipe all the data from your computer!!!⚠️) also you don’t necessarily need to authenticate the ISO, you can skip that step if you want to
@wlarsen70
@wlarsen70 3 місяці тому
@@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT Thanks so much! I will try this. 😸
@nubatman
@nubatman Місяць тому
​@wlarsen70 You can give Ventoy a try too. It creates 2 partitions on a USB (one for the loader / one for isos). It basically let's you mount the image for easy testing and installation. If you're still on Windows the installer is straightforward. I would recommend a drive that's 32gb or higher to drop in multiple iso images.
@wlarsen70
@wlarsen70 Місяць тому
@@nubatman Thanks! I will try this. :)
@thechappist
@thechappist 20 днів тому
I do love my Linux laptop for travel and I'd want to use it for photography but any program I want to use (Affinity or Luminar) says they won't make it for Linux... and I'm just not excited to try and figure out WINE right at this moment. I might have to break down and figure it out for Affinity someday... maybe.
@cjscreations_2012
@cjscreations_2012 3 місяці тому
wow idk how this channel doesnt have 1m+ subs with its pro channel level quality!
@JoeStuffzAlt
@JoeStuffzAlt 25 днів тому
I like Linux, but man, I keep running into issues. It's beautiful once you have it set up Problems I encounter: * The graphics environment can randomly die, and now you have to fix it in command-line * You do a setting in the UI, and it doesn't take effect. Sometimes you have to modify a text file to get it to work reliably * I installed Linux onto a VM. Mapped a 2nd virtual drive to a folder. I put a ton of stuff into said folder, thinking it was mounted (it was not). Ended up bricking the OS because main drive was full If you want a lot of Linux software, a Mac can work pretty well. I hate admitting it. Another issue is that you have to download the OS from the Internet, and figure out how to boot it. It sounds simple for most of us since we're deep into PCs. For a newbie, it's like you feel like you are diffusing a bomb.
@dreaper5813
@dreaper5813 23 дні тому
As a Linux user of 8 years, I have to ask; just what are you doing? FYI, running Linux in a VM has to be the worst experience. Just please get a cheap AMD or Intel laptop and run a distro of your choosing on that. And avoid Nvidia. lol
@dreaper5813
@dreaper5813 23 дні тому
BTW, my old boss at the computer shop repurposes older PCs and Macs with Linux (Zorin OS). And he sells them to his customers. Or he has switched people to Linux who have computers that don't support MS's artificial hardware requirements for Windows 11. His customers are happy to not pay an arm and a leg just for the sake of buying a newer computer. One customer literally came in and asked my old boss at the computer shop if there was anything else she could run on her computers other than Windows. Apparently, she wanted more of her privacy back. So, he set her up with Zorin OS. And apparently, according to him, she loved it. So, it seems more people are starting to see MS for what they really are. And so, more people are running Linux.
@dreaper5813
@dreaper5813 23 дні тому
But if you want a new computer that just works with Linux out of the box, consider Linux system manufacturers. Tuxedo, System 76, Slimbook and Framework are great examples. Don't go with the typical Windows OEM trash like HP and Dell.
@CathrineMacNiel
@CathrineMacNiel 15 годин тому
how the frick did you "brick" your OS in such manner?
@mattnordsell9760
@mattnordsell9760 4 дні тому
I like that SurfShark has the GUI now on Linux, it was such a breath of fresh air going from the command line interface. It would be nice if the same features available on the Windows version would be available on the Linux GUI.
@SabiazothPsyche
@SabiazothPsyche 3 місяці тому
The reason that my Being uses Linux is because it's been several years without even reformatting my Linux OS. With Windows, my Being had to reformat at least once to twice a year; but with Linux, it is so "grounded", that IT can't see reformatting my Linux any span soon. Also, every upgrade has been fantastic with Linux.
@rbush2335
@rbush2335 3 місяці тому
I would love to use linux on my laptop but- use too much power (Windows lasts twice as long on battery), Sound levels are low for many distros, difficult to find fixes and help that is relevant and easy to follow. We are not all experts.
@joeschmoe3815
@joeschmoe3815 2 місяці тому
Buy better hardware next time. Really. When I started using linux 10 years ago I had the same issues. But today it's easy to buy a good system (Tuxedo, System76 etc.) or do some research on which notebooks run well with linux before you buy it.
@NostalgicOccultist
@NostalgicOccultist 2 дні тому
@@joeschmoe3815 That's a lot of effort for an OS so unfinished it doesn't even have a completed GUI and still requires command line for basic functions.
@joeschmoe3815
@joeschmoe3815 2 дні тому
@@NostalgicOccultist Tell me you don't know anything about Linux, without telling me that you don't know anything about Linux. Better luck next time, mate!
@danieljoseph6404
@danieljoseph6404 3 години тому
Yeah linux heats up my laptop considerably more than windows, at idle. So much for efficiency
@esphilee
@esphilee 3 місяці тому
80% of photoshop users do not use 80% of photoshop feature. But they paid 100%. If they Gimp is the first photo editing software, they will have the same problem if they transition to Photoshop. Ya, familiarity. Gimp is not a replacement to Photoshop. They are very different.
@ZeerakImran
@ZeerakImran Місяць тому
gimp is exactly what it sounds like. a joke. The interface really reflects the problem with linux distros themselves. Libreoffice looks straight out of windows 2000.
@esphilee
@esphilee Місяць тому
@@ZeerakImran,Yes, the UI is not that good, but it can get the job done. I have been using it for over 10 years. Since I know the way around, I am ok with it. I use blender and Libreoffice too, they get the job done, and that is all that matters. I teach my students to use Gimp. Because I know if I teach them Photoshop, they will have to use pirated software. I would rather they do the right thing, albeit living with a little inconvenience.
@dreaper5813
@dreaper5813 23 дні тому
That's great. I agree with teaching people too. BTW, for digital art, Krita is awesome.
@esphilee
@esphilee 23 дні тому
@@dreaper5813 , krita is awesome. Inkscape is good for vector art too.
@CathrineMacNiel
@CathrineMacNiel 15 годин тому
@@dreaper5813 Krita is the best :)
@formbi
@formbi 3 місяці тому
An ecosystem for GNU would be almost guaranteed to be freedom-respecting and multiplatform, so it could work on other OSes too (and would actually work). The biggest problem (and also advantage) would be that there's no central entity to host the servers, so it would be federated or p2p (each has the issue of connecting all your devices properly). 9:20 That issue is very overblown. I just tried several distros in a VM until I decided which one to use on bare metal.
@MriA653
@MriA653 3 місяці тому
I tried to boot pop os on my pc and was sucessful, but for some reason when i dec8de to try desktop ubuntu, the drive got corrupted
@stranded_mariner7695
@stranded_mariner7695 3 місяці тому
Lack of tech support, on the plus side there's also a lack of tech support scammers.
@Marta1Buck
@Marta1Buck 3 місяці тому
Cheap laptops should come with linux mint or something. Giving them windows 11 is such a bad idea.
@KuruGDI
@KuruGDI 3 місяці тому
A small (in effect, not on code) but surely great feature would be if you could have one standard (and just a single one) as online storage for small data (contacts, calendar, settings, etc.). This standard would have be supported by all (which would probably the hardest thing to achieve). My co-worker was telling me about how he loves the ability of his iphone to have a shared calendar with his wife. As soon as he enters or changes a work related entry (he often is away for a week), his wife knows when he will be back home again. This would actually be a really nice feature IMHO.
@CathrineMacNiel
@CathrineMacNiel 15 годин тому
you mean like WebDAV (for Files), CalDAV (for Calendar Info) and CardDAV (for Contacts)? All you need for that is a PIM Provider that provides those features, Proton for example, or Google Mail and Microsoft Outlook.
@l3lue7hunder12
@l3lue7hunder12 3 місяці тому
I think the main reason people "opt-out" is psychological, namely that because there is no Linux but a bunch of "Linx Distributions" ( not to mention branches ), people have issues to "opt-in" since many are bad at choosing especially what they don't understand. This is why so many people try Ubuntu rather then "Linux", because it is a well known name that almost stands for itself. I installed Linux for a good number of my clients telling them that I don't deliver a PC without a system on it, and if they want Windows they can just go ahead and kill the Linux if they wish - but none ever actually did. Sure, most complained not finding what they searched for, and that some things didn't work or were "missing", but they all eventually made do using alternatives or finding tricks. This also tells me that most can recognize Linux for the alternative it is, and that all it takes is a little push - like the "Steam Deck" shipping with Linux.
@CompuB1t
@CompuB1t 3 місяці тому
Linux "desktop" is not famous for one reason is not installed by default on most computers and there are some many options to install Linux and Linix distros (but actually there are less than 5 big Linux distros the majority are forks). Because Linux is actually the kernel the rest of the OS are other software packages developed by other devs from GNU, GNOME, KDE, Arch, Red Hat, OpenSuse, Ubuntu, even Google (for Android and chrome OS), gentoo, void and altruist people. It has so much freedom that people get lost and Microsoft has so much power to control what OS ships the computer.
@pedromain
@pedromain 3 місяці тому
My PC came with Linux and I installed Windows on it. Even if it comes with Linux, the distros available today are not suitable for a normal user. The user will eventually find a way to install Windows cause the need to use the terminal for any reason in modern times is unaceptable, looking at a ugly screen interface while having a modern machine or dealing with help forums to find the command to install a package. It saved me some bucks on the buying price tho. When a distro solves these problems he will rapidly dominate the desktop market, but this distro still doesnt exist, Nobara is the closest we have today, but still miles away. A lot of work still needed.
@CompuB1t
@CompuB1t 3 місяці тому
@@pedromain There are some laptops and desktop computers that comes with Linux but is a minority. And I think the terminal for some basic tasks like installing packages is easier and faster than using a GUI or downloading exe from each websites. What you are talking about is no the "distro" is the Desktop Environment that ships the distro, like KDE, GNOME, XFCE or the combination with window manager + extra packages. I think KDE is what the majority of people is comfortable, and you can do all the basic things with a GUI, even install software with "Discover" but I prefer the terminal in my case using pacman from Arch Linux to manage software. I recommend Debian (deb PKG) / Arch (PKGBUILD) / Fedora (rpm PKG) with KDE. Novara is a fork of Fedora with KDE and some extra configurations. And Ubuntu is and old fork of Debian with GNOME. And Garuda Linux a fork of Arch with KDE. And so on...
@fabiandrinksmilk6205
@fabiandrinksmilk6205 3 місяці тому
Some of the big laptop vendors do offer laptops with Linux, but often market them as laptops for developers and it kinda makes sense. Linux is much bigger in the programming world and it's actually easier and more efficient than Windows because of its terminal and package manager.
@antonioytm
@antonioytm 3 місяці тому
"Microsoft has so much power to control what OS ships the computer." So does google with android phone that you mentioned. Also android depends on vendor so your phone gets vendors version of android, UI, apps and more bloat in it.
@sj3614
@sj3614 3 місяці тому
@@pedromain I think Linux Mint is good enough for normal users. Very rarely will you have to enter a terminal on Mint. System packages are quite old but flatpaks exist so you dont really have to worry too much about it. That being said, I understand when people say Linux doesn't fit their criteria. I understand people not wanting to install Adobe products or DAW's through WINE.
@Kinos141
@Kinos141 3 місяці тому
The thing about issue 3 and 4 are that Wine and Steam's Proton, you can run Windows apps on Linux. I think that's a bust.
@ZeerakImran
@ZeerakImran Місяць тому
But that defeats the very point of using Linux. Why not just use Windows instead of using Windows on Linux discretely with worse compatibility and performance.
@dreaper5813
@dreaper5813 23 дні тому
@@ZeerakImran Because Windows is invasive ad serving trash.
@Njinx_
@Njinx_ 4 дні тому
​@@ZeerakImran Performance isn't worse in all cases, some programs run better under Wine than natively on Windows, surprisingly. To answer your questions, it's the same reason Windows subsystem for Linux is so popular. It gives the user the best of both worlds, assuming the user wants the familiarity of Windows with access to Linux programs. I occasionally run programs in Wine (mostly games) because it beats booting into my Windows install.
@ZeerakImran
@ZeerakImran 4 дні тому
@@Njinx_ i completely support wine and if I was using Linux, I would love to have wine by my side. Your take on this is very fair and I agree. My comment was more so directed at the users who claim linux is the best and other operating systems suck. As in why would anyone switch when they would be using windows anyway just with worse performance and support. it may be true that some programs may have better performance but I think the majority would have worse performance or no support at all. If it requires me to spend a lot of time in optimising the program to a stage which then allows it to perform better, that would also count as worse performance due to the fact that the performance is being measured by my time and work done rather than maximum potential output after ignoring the period of time where no work was done but my energy and time was spent. No dedicated support from any important/large program running on wine either so the user is left stranded unless they learn (basically fix it themselves if it's possible).
@NostalgicOccultist
@NostalgicOccultist 2 дні тому
Wine and Proton are riddled with issues, you're better off running Windows in a VM, which is barely any different from just running Windows.
@RalfEngelmann
@RalfEngelmann 3 місяці тому
I think the first and greatest barrier is that the vast majority of computers are sold with Windows or MacOS preinstalled and the buyers do not give much thought on the underlying OS. People who buy computers with Linux preinstalled do it because they searched for exactly such devices. So switching to Linux is a step that must be based on a specific motivation or problem situation. Be it technical curiosity, concerns about security and privacy or the refusal to have to buy new hardware for Windows 11. And not so many people thake that step.
@robert112uk
@robert112uk 17 днів тому
I think the problem that newbies have with Linux is the massive amount of jargon involved. This makes getting on with Linux difficult!
@NostalgicOccultist
@NostalgicOccultist 2 дні тому
This is definitely a huge part of it, the average end user doesn't have the time or interest in becoming technically proficient enough to understand Linux, they just want to turn the device on and do their work!
@Lestibournes
@Lestibournes 3 місяці тому
Linux marketshare has been growing slowly but steadily for over a decade and apparently is now around 3.5%. that's similar to where Mac was before the iPhone was announced. It will continue to grow because it's awesome, keeps getting better, and windows keeps increasingly becoming more of a bloated piece of advertising spyware.
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 4 дні тому
yeah. just a few more decades...
@Lestibournes
@Lestibournes 4 дні тому
@@xybersurfer since I wrote that comment it went up to 4%
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 4 дні тому
@@Lestibournes are you saying that's a unique short term trend?
@Lestibournes
@Lestibournes 4 дні тому
@@xybersurfer I'm saying that Linux has been consistently overall trending upwards for over 15 years and that trend is continuing and bringing it to new heights. And that's besides ChromeOS that has an additional 2.5% bringing the total to 6.5%. Part of it is I'm sure that it's being used more and more as the system on which software developers do their work. Part of it is enthusiasts using it at home for themselves and their families. Part of it is the Steam Deck popularizing it among gamers, part of it is India, where Linux is #2 with 15% marketshare, and part of it is people fed up with Windows for various reasons who are looking for an alternative that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. The more popular Linux gets, the more support it gets, the more viable an alternative it becomes, the more people switch to it and the fewer people switch away from it. It's a slow-rolling snowball.
@mariusz2619
@mariusz2619 3 місяці тому
I think is funny to talk how good linux is and why isn't in the top of all :)... ... in front of MacOS 😂
@JacobP81
@JacobP81 3 місяці тому
9:19 Choosing the "right" Linux Distro. Yes good point. It is overwhelming when you look at all the Linux Distros and your like which one do I pick?? Good point.
@CathrineMacNiel
@CathrineMacNiel 15 годин тому
Mhm, when you are at a car dealer you have the same issue, no?
@nicktheneko
@nicktheneko День тому
at 5:25 i was definitely not expecting to see @AbroadinJapan casually making an appearance in this video🤣🤣🤣🤣
@StarOnCheek
@StarOnCheek 3 місяці тому
I would not expect any "traditional" Linux distro to become popular because updates can break them. Luckily image-based distros with Flatpak are solving this. It is only a matter of time now
@fixer1140
@fixer1140 3 місяці тому
Long live Flatpak
@kensolar69
@kensolar69 3 місяці тому
I haven't had a distro break in a 4-5 years now, and I distro-hop often with more than one installed at all times.
@StarOnCheek
@StarOnCheek 3 місяці тому
@@kensolar69 it is not about it actually happening, it is about the paranoia that it might
@fedora
@fedora 3 місяці тому
We do love some Silverblue in our lives 💙
@karlmader9153
@karlmader9153 3 місяці тому
If Microsoft Office and the Adobe Suite were available on Linux, I would immediately switch. As it is right now, I unfortunately depend on those two suits for business reasons. However, I did switch from Windows 11 to Linux Mint on my personal computer and am loving it!!! It was so much easier than anticipated and my laptop now runs like on rocket fuel.
@7thgenz
@7thgenz 2 місяці тому
Those are subscriptions they aren't too liked with free software like Linux, and there's plenty of things similar to those softwares that support the same files
@ZeerakImran
@ZeerakImran Місяць тому
@@7thgenz there isn't a single viable alternative. Not by a long shot. There also aren't any plans of decent software being developed.
@rhiantaylor3446
@rhiantaylor3446 19 днів тому
Can you suggest an up to date Linux distro that runs on older 32 bit CPU ?
@leemanwrong
@leemanwrong 11 днів тому
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, Linux Mint Debian Edition, MX Linux.
@Schattennebel
@Schattennebel 9 днів тому
Debian itself still offers a 32 bit version and some Debian based distros.
@Britishblue.
@Britishblue. 3 місяці тому
The reason I wont swap to linux is because of compatibility. If a larger number of apps were available id definitely consider it. Windows will just do anything though and its supported by every program no matter how small the developer is. Linux is gonna struggle to get that level of support because so little people use it. I wish I could try it but every time I have its just not there with compatiblity. The os itself is pretty good.
@maxz339
@maxz339 3 місяці тому
Your macbook isn't fit well into this video
@proboi_qwerty6969
@proboi_qwerty6969 3 місяці тому
Lmao true
@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT
@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT 3 місяці тому
maybe he installed asahi linux on it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@maxz339
@maxz339 3 місяці тому
@@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT I think he would mention it and show us as an example...
@ArthurKhazbs
@ArthurKhazbs 3 місяці тому
He is addicted to Adobe products for video editing, he needs his fix of those
@ZeerakImran
@ZeerakImran Місяць тому
@@ArthurKhazbs you're addicted to oxygen.
@stenboss1816
@stenboss1816 3 місяці тому
Gaming is the one and only reason why my desktop is still using windows.
@hera9539
@hera9539 3 місяці тому
The reason why I use Nobara Linux: The games I play run much better on Linux than on Windows 10. E.g. Snowrunner - under Win10 with micro-stutters, under Linux butter-smooth.... And now? ;)
@NostalgicOccultist
@NostalgicOccultist 2 дні тому
@@hera9539 Do you have any examples with more demanding games? Like Cyberpunk, Warzone, or Baldur's Gate 3 with co-op? Those are the things Mint and Kubuntu couldn't ever run for me.
@hera9539
@hera9539 2 дні тому
@@NostalgicOccultist Sorry, I don't play any of these games. Everyone chooses the system that best suits their needs......but I don't use Windows anymore for many other reasons.
@CathrineMacNiel
@CathrineMacNiel 15 годин тому
@@NostalgicOccultist CP2077 runs butterly smooth under Nobara Linux (and for that any Linux Distro with Wine-GE or Proton-GE running the show)
@Dexter101x
@Dexter101x 3 місяці тому
The problem for me, is like all the things that were said i.e. the terminal, some features you had no option but to use the terminal. The lack of general support from software developers for something like Office and video editing, but Blackmagic Davinci Resolve is available for Linux, but I think that's for certain distros, and the lack of good games for Linux
@smallsquatch3683
@smallsquatch3683 22 дні тому
As far as using the terminal. When I have to use it. I usually just copy and paste a command. And at most I have to change some arguments or specify a path.
@kayachan5198
@kayachan5198 3 місяці тому
You better be running asahi on that mac in view, sir
@danielmugas3009
@danielmugas3009 3 місяці тому
as a linux user, i agreee in the most part, especally in the gaming part, i know that linux seems complicated to the new user, but once i explain that is basically a lego set, they understand everything.
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 3 місяці тому
really everything? that's an huge exaggeration
@danielmugas3009
@danielmugas3009 3 місяці тому
@@xybersurfer it's a way to say things... But you get the point
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 3 місяці тому
@@danielmugas3009 it's a very dishonest way of saying things
@lifeindivine
@lifeindivine 8 днів тому
Doggie Doggie
@KipIngram
@KipIngram 2 дні тому
I use it. I use it ALL THE TIME, every day. Linux is and will remain my "go to" operating system. I've been using it since 2002, when I started a business and needed to design electronic circuits and lay out printed circuit boards. I couldn't afford tens of thousands of dollars for a high end commercial workstation for that, so I rolled my own using freely available software running on Linux. Linux was still rough around the edges back then. There were stability issues, etc. I've watched it solidify over the years, and now it is every bit as good as (actually BETTER THAN) Windows or any other offering.
@adampippert8314
@adampippert8314 2 місяці тому
You know what's killing Linux on the desktop? The fact that it's not necessary. Linux already does all the hard work on the back end of the Internet to make sure it's working properly, you don't really need it up front if you like the interface you're given. Linux already is making the compute experience better for everyone whether you know you use it or not, and in the end that's probably all that really matters for most people. For the rest of us, that have actual work to do and aren't just mindlessly pushing paper around, we'll use a UNIX-like or UNIX OS to do our work because the architecture behind shared computers has been doing real work for real businesses since the late 60's (when it was Multics).
@xE92vD
@xE92vD 3 місяці тому
Its not that I cant use it, its just that it mostly isnt as beautiful like windows or that it has many software compatible with it. There are also driver compatibility issues.
@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT
@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT 3 місяці тому
“Linux isn’t as beautiful like windows” bro have you every visited r/unixp0rn before
@tzarcoal1018
@tzarcoal1018 3 місяці тому
Windows and beautiful?? That's new for me. I find it kinda ridiculous ( at the same time funny) how you have this inconsistent design that is essentially a bit of leftover from all the different windows OS systems of the past. Also you can have dark mode in all the new stuff, but once you need to jump into the control panel for instance you are back to a white background. Taste is different, but I think KDE is looking much better and delivers a consistent design language.
@xE92vD
@xE92vD 3 місяці тому
@@tzarcoal1018 KDE indeed looks nice, but it lacks some nice UI design there and here.
@NostalgicOccultist
@NostalgicOccultist 2 дні тому
@@tzarcoal1018 KDE is pretty nice looking, just a shame half the GUI doesn't even work and you need to manually change those options in command line.
@raza_the_nerd
@raza_the_nerd 3 місяці тому
linux is awesome
@fedora
@fedora 3 місяці тому
No, you are awesome! 💙
@samshort365
@samshort365 3 місяці тому
I recently installed Manjaro Linux on my sister's early 2009 24in iMac. I doubled the ram and installed an SSD and revived a platform that Apple abandoned years ago. The computer works like a charm. They can keep their @#_$# ecosystem.
@themisterchristie
@themisterchristie 3 місяці тому
Being more readily available on new machines without having to install is a big thing. As for the gaming, the big companies need to get their head out of the sand and enable Linux support in their anti-cheat systems which, at least with Epic's anti-cheat is simply a flag that any developer can set to allow it. Also if Linux gamers are such a small, no concern, number, would UBIsoft feel the need to ban people's accounts who are using Linux.
@neek8044
@neek8044 3 місяці тому
W Surfshark
@marekkedzierski8237
@marekkedzierski8237 3 місяці тому
My list would be: 1. Terminal and config files. Yes, you can install Linux distro nowadays without using the terminal, but if you run into any problem whatsoever you will immediately need it. The same goes for config files - any problem at all and you have to hunt for some obscure file in ridiculously named directory. 2. Open software UI and how crappy it is. FOSS software UI tends to be convoluted, unintuitive and simply strange. 3. Almost religious convictions FOSS enthusiast exhibit talking about freedom, big corporations, privacy and so on. I tend to stay away from such people whenever I can, just as I do when I encounter a streat preacher.
@gruntaxeman3740
@gruntaxeman3740 3 місяці тому
1. That is great thing. One reason why Microsoft did fail with ISS because Apache HTTP was superior to configure. Folder structure also have standard: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard Also do you understand how much harder it is to copy configurations that are in obscure registry keys instead of simple file? Configuration files are usually having comments, Windows regedit does not show comments for registry keys. Issue in Windows is that folder structure is not standard, it affects all development and also user while location of files changes time to time. Also while Microsoft is caring backward compatibility, many software is failing because of file system or security conventions are changed. 2. Depends on software. I prefer using open source software with good UI. It is usually better to use not so perfect UI if software is open, because we know that big changes in environment causes -30% productivity drop for while. And that happens when software support ends. Open source software are easily have longer life cycle than closed ones. Oldest softwares that I use is something like 50 years old. 3. Those FOSS enthusiast are weird, they are rare of course. Everyone can choose where to give data or like to use big corporation software.
@ZeerakImran
@ZeerakImran Місяць тому
@@gruntaxeman3740 you don't need to go into the windows registry. terminal on the other hand..
@davidjeter5067
@davidjeter5067 3 місяці тому
One thing that held me back is music software. Sure, we can run Reaper natively, but not Ableton Live, Fruity Loops I got to install through Wine and seems stable, Native Instruments Kontakt libraries have issues, Cue Base, but due to how well Proton runs my Stram library as there are no online shooters or MMO I play (and I have 3tb steam library), in time all my music software will work just fine or I'll figure it out. Even though getting Mint to work how I want it to work has taken me so far about 12 hours, and I am learning the command line, in the future this will be totally worth it to walk away from Windows.
@richardb4787
@richardb4787 21 день тому
The amount of Linux distros can be confusing but you can make it part of the learning experience. Using virtual machines can help.
@no-stresscat1519
@no-stresscat1519 3 місяці тому
The Distro-Hop is real. Even among us seasoned Linux users. I would like to bring up another point: 8. Most people haven't even heard of Linux, or even know what it is. One of the most frequent questions I get when I mention Linux is, "Linux? What is that? I've never even heard of it."
@fixer1140
@fixer1140 3 місяці тому
Yeah, mentioning Linux to the average folk is almost like speaking Elvish or Klingon. They just look at you like you're speaking nonsense.
@gabriels.carrionvivar5060
@gabriels.carrionvivar5060 3 місяці тому
Would chrome os count as a Linux ecosystem together with android?
@notjustforhackers4252
@notjustforhackers4252 3 місяці тому
Chrome OS, pretty much yes, it's not a very good version of desktop Linux but you can class it as such. Android? nah, not really, sure it uses the Kernel but the user space is radically different.
@user-tw2kr6hg4r
@user-tw2kr6hg4r 3 місяці тому
Linux, BSD, and all open POSIX compliant OSs have an "ecosystem" KDE Connect allows connection with smartphones, localsend is like Airdrop, Nextcloud is a cloud; calendar; note taking app; etc.. There is also GNOME and KDE, Flatpak, Snap, and AppImage.
@fargoth92
@fargoth92 3 місяці тому
Biggest reason (and thats beacuse Linux isnt really corporate or maunfacturer backed) is that Windows is already preinstalled on every device you buy or you just get a Mac. Installing Linux isnt really that hard anymore but non-tech-savvy or non-gamers just dont want the hassle of learning how to install another OS. They just use whats already there.
@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT
@Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT 3 місяці тому
most non-tech-savvy’s don’t even know you can install a different OS, they think the OS is part of the computer so if you want a different OS you need to buy a different computer
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