I learned the hard way that chasing money is a fool’s race. A healthy work environment that you can actually stand to be in is priceless!!

I'm surprised that Google have such aggressive deadlines, considering them not having any noticeable new products the past few years, in addition to the closure of many of their products

My year at Google was fantastic (unfortunately my contract was not extended) - having Google on your resume definitely helps open doors.

That perks-so-you-never-leave thing has been around a long time. It was a big part of the reason why EA was sued (and lost) during the whole "EA Spouse" debacle in 2003. I called it a gilded cage. I didn't want any of the perks. I just wanted to be able to go home at night and on weekends and have a life. I've hated all employee "perks" ever since. They even gave out rings, like class rings, with company stuff on them instead, to people who stayed the longest. I remember a woman who lived in the apartments right next to the office won, because she was there ridiculous numbers of hours, and people actually wanted the ring, and put in more hours to try to win one. I thought they were all crazy.

Now imagine being stressed out at a company that has nowhere near the amount of perks and benefits lol

I disagree with this. My experience at Google was awesome. It was like being on a cruise ship and in my two years I can only remember having to stay late 2-3 times. I only left because once you work at Google other tech companies want you really bad and will pay more to get you. This is just my own personal experience. Maybe I’m just lucky.

The thing is, the people that get selected for google are not your avg joe. They will be dissatisfied if they don't get the respect and treatment they think they deserve. Now people disagreeing with them are the avg or below avg joes that gets treated the same but without the perks and salary and they cannot change jobs cause they know their worth in this competing world. Ex Google employees know they have "google" in their resume and can easily land a comfy job but the avg joe is not at that level. Well in the end it's just a matter of perspectives from both parties. Personally if I had the calibre to get in google, i would also leave for better jobs

Worked as an intern last summer and my experience was pure joy. Starting full time next summer. Hope to be the same.

Working at Google and here's my personal experience about these reasons: 1.1. I worked at a office outside of CA, they have only breakfast and lunch, and people just comes in as late as possible right before the breakfast ends, it is hilarious and actually reasonable because no one else is working at that time anyway. The food is not that good though. 1.2. We technically could bring dogs and some does it. They don't want cats to come however, so it really isn't about tricking employees to stay longer. 2. Work pressure differs between teams, some got lucky and has near zero pressure and some needs to wake up at midnight if the website is down for 3 minutes. If you got a good team or manager it is really great. 3. As long as you are hired, it does not take anyone a lot of effort to "just survive" because you already proved, or at least convinced them you are one of the best engineer out there(which actually surprises many engineers how bad other people can be). However you are indeed going to work with or hear stories about some insanely good people who does the work of hundreds of people. IMO it is just something average people needs to suck it up and move on about the fact that some people are really just that good instead of tryharding. 4. I remember average promotion takes 3 years, so yeah if people left with a year or two it's going to be hard. 5. The "worked at google" line on your resume beats ten projects so people gets a lot more chance going to startups and such, so if they get +30k a year then quitting does not seem bad at all. Opening your own startup is not really related to the quit data though, since those people are usually senior engineers and has saved a good fortune already.

Ex-Googler here (Seattle based). I can tell this information is far from being accurate. 1. Dinner is actually very limited, not that good and very few people stay up for dinner. 2. Shuttle back home, most people just chat, chill, take a nap. I rarely see people working on the way back. 3. I have been through 3 different teams. Everyone has families or places to be after work. I can single handedly count the people I have been in contact with who work after hours or reply to emails late at night. 4. You get paid for your on call time. Name one company that does that aside from Google. 5. I used to hit the Gym every other day around lunch time right before I get lunch. And I actually got promoted and was never questioned by what I was doing spending 1.5 hours mid day out of office every other day. Google experience was by far the best experience I had at any company (and I have been through a decent number of the big tech giants). As long as you set the right estimates and expectations and are not a lazy ass who is not willing to work, you will thrive and learn (to some extent). The major drawback in my opinion is the growth opportunity (especially at L5 and beyond). It is hard, very opportunistic and needs so much work that many people just skip such promotions by leaving and going back at a higher level

I've been facing the same problems without been paid like a Googler, and It's even harder when you're the head of your team, and you feel that if you fail everything fail, been a Google you can lean on your teammates (I'm pretty sure they are brilliant people)

I work for google and I’ve been here for 4 months. And I can say for a fact that it is very stress free. I can get away with working 30 hours, but I probably work closer to 40/45 because I want that first promotion ASAP. I’ve talked to other coworkers in different groups and pretty much everyone’s experience is the same. I’ve never witnessed anyone super stressed or anything. Everyone is nice af too. I know the entire company isn’t like that and it probably depends on your group. But I would say most people love it here. Also, google has been known to have a better work life balance than other tech companies. I’ve talked to friends from Amazon and apple specifically and they are the ones that are stressed out. Not sure where this 1.1 years number came from lol

As a cs student, Imposter syndrome at google seems much better than my backbreaking warehouse position

I worked in Silicon Valley. I worked 80 hours/week and I was salaried. When I calculated how much I made it was closer to $20/hr and I practically lived there. No thanks.

I worked for Google mumbai as IT admin and I agree with perk trap. Google provides free food and IT accessories and travel but not salary

The problem with being “really good at your job”’is many managers won’t promote you BECAUSE you’re excelling in your current role and they don’t want to lose a top performer, esp if it’s to a different department.

I'm starting to see that times really are shifting. Myself who was raised by old school parents use to believe that working hard to climb up to one company that pays well and offers good benefits with a decent/good schedule is enough for me to essentially commit my career and life into that company until I retire. Today it seems that work is all about progression and to continuously grow within whatever field you're wanting to be in or may already be in. In the grand scheme of things I suppose this has always been the game plan to anyone that wants to be successful in life but opportunities seem to be far more available today. I don't see anything wrong with doing one year of time with any job to put on your resume. Take your experience and apply it somewhere better. This my perspective.

I worked at Google myself for 5 years, and I quit during February of this year. This was my experience: - The first team I joined got stressfull after 1 year and shortly after that I switched my team (that's an advantage of working at Google, you can switch teams easily) and in my second team everything was calmed and relaxed. I know people from multiple teams (in Mexico the former informatics olympiad contestants are kinda a comunity, and many of them are or have been working at Google), and usually they are not stressed nor overworking. For Facebook it was a whole different story, all people that I knew that was working for Facebook had to work tons of extra hours. - There is no official start hour nor end hour, so it doesn't mean that you need to arrive at 9 and wait until 6 for dinner, you can arrive at 10 and there is no problem (the breakfasts are served until 11 if I recall correctly). - There is also free gym, so if you want to work just in the time slot 9-5 and still take dinner, you can go to the gym at that time. - I lived in a manufactured home that was right next to campus, so my commute times were pretty short (between 3 and 10 minutes, depending where my building was). - The point of promotions is that employees need to campaign themselves for promotion and convince the comitee that they deserve one(they have to document what they have done, argument why is that impactful and even collect feedback of support from their coworkers) in other companies the managers handle all of that before scenery, but in Google is up to employee to do that. Many people argue that that's fairer, because in Google you can get a promotion even without the support of your manager. - I never had unlimmited vacations, someone told me that Google used to have that long ago. I don't know if things changed in the last months or if this video got outdated perks. - It's not common for someone to take their lunch or dinner to their desk to keep working more time. I did it multiple times but I was the only one in my team doing it and I was only doing it because the lunch time was ending at 1:30pm and I wanted to eat later. - Weirdly enough, before march 2020 I didn't know any single person quitting Google with less than one year working there. But in 2021 there was one new coworker that joined my team and quickly quitted while we were working remotely. - One of my friends from another team told me that most of their coworkers started to quit during the work from home lockdown (and he quited in that period as well). My reason of leaving: I wasn't able to get along with people from Bay Area, and I did put quite an effort in that. The culture there it's very individualistic and impersonal. I didn't want to spend the rest of my life without new meaningful connections (specially when more people that I already knew were moving out from the Bay Area rather than moving in). I'm right now working at my own company back in Mexico.

Also here's the thing. When you're surrounded by incredible people, they can also lift you up. Make you better at your job. If you feel like you're in the shadow, that means that you're not fully on board with trusting your co-workers. If I know that we're all on the same team working toward the same goal, I want people around me who are the best of the very best. I'd rather be with them in the trenches than others who aren't. In my eyes, it's your attitude and the attitudes of the people around you that can make it amazing or difficult.

I'm a googler in nyc, and it's not as bad as it's made out to be here. the food is pretty good & hours flexible (thanks covid). if you get on a good team you don't need to work too hard to stay on top of expectations. I usually skip one of the meals because it's not worth it to work later if you can go out with friends, etc.

I'm convinced that the whole agile thing is really just a way to pressure devs with aggressive deadlines.

I don't know really. What do you people expect at workplace which pays you 10K a month (minimum salary). To just chill and play games :) Of course it's going to be stressful and hard.

i dont think having those perks is a negative thing since they're optional. People complain nowadays about pretty much everything--including positive "OPTIONAL" advantages. If you're cheap enough to stay 2-3 more hours for a free meal, then it's your fault and not the company's. If you want a free shuttle, then you can't complain "it's too slow". Gosh

Meanwhile me with a Cybersecurity degree, working 12+ hours on a deadend job (Army) for close to minimum wage, and none of these amazing perks: " *interesting* "

I worked two full-time software engineering jobs at one time before and it was a no-sleep grind of epic proportions ... Google is a stepping stone, embrace it and run with it and you can go far. Either you'll get a high ranking promotion at Google or learn all the tricks of the software industry to start your own company.

As a current Software Engineer @ Google that started on 02/28/2022, I can see why Googlers quit! It's hard to past the yearly perk review as a rookie, Junior SWE and if you don't show steady progression within your role, you will continue to barely pass your yearly perk or even fail! The 5 reasons you mention on here are factual but I would add not passing the yearly perk review or getting a "meet expectations", then you will most likely quit, because you will feel the pressure to perform at a much higher level. This takes a tole on your mental and emotional health big time! No amount of money is worth your mental and emotional health and feel like you're going crazy!

I work in tech and my company has no perks like Google's. Yet, I put in way more time than just 3 extra hours a day. Driving in traffic is very mentally draining, and for those single people, grocery shopping, meal prep and doing dishes are all very time consuming. With Google's perks, you can almost surely have your entire weekend to do leisurely things instead of worrying about grocery shopping, cooking, meal prep and so on. So yes, I'd rather put in a few hours doing work things I enjoy instead of things I don't enjoy. Plus, have you gone shopping for groceries in the Bay Area at 5 or 6pm... or Costco run on weekends? Lines everywhere and wait time everywhere.

Regarding point 1 - It's worth noting that another way perks work against you (if your employer sucks) is to do with how much you are actually seen to be using them. For example, if you have a pool table, table tennis or even a quiet break room, spending any time in those spaces outside of a set break period (e.g lunch) can be noted down and used against you in performance reviews if they want to deny you a promotion, leave, etc etc - citing you taking time to use these "free perk" facilities

Google's culture is not as toxic as you make it out to be, especially when you compare it to other high stress paying industries. The politics, long work hours, cutthroat environment will applies across every job. The work life balance is amazing. Here in NY, I've never met anyone who went past 45 hours a week and once or twice on call. Call me bias if you want, coming from Finance and accounting where I put in 16 hour days sitting in a cubicle and where I have to pay for my own food, I'd gladly take Google's work environment anyday. New York's google cafeteria food tastes way better than the lunch that I buy. Yes, the job is stressful, but there is always going to be stress in life one way or another, and I would gladly be stressed working at google.

My last employer was like this... He tried to squeeze every last bit out of his employees but there were no catered meals, no high salary, and taking any PTO at all just pissed him off. So glad I quit working for that piece of crap

Imagine getting PAID HUGE MONEY and finding out the company actually wants you to WORK. The HORROR.

Sometimes you have to fail to succeed, Most times it amazes me greatly how I moved from an average lifestyle to earning over $63k per month, Utter shock is the word. I have understood a lot in the past few years that there are lots of opportunities in the financial market. The only thing is to know where to invest....

I think that google is just trying to stay competitive with other tech companies. It’s probably very difficult for them to allow people to advance in the company when you are always working with amazing talent and hard working people. And regarding the perk dilemma to keep you working. You can drive your own vehicle. Not eat dinner at google and also they offer fully remote positions. I think the problem is employees, especially new ones, see the progress and dedication of other employees and work tirelessly in hopes of matching that same progress. Thus the burnout dilemma.

People's reasons for quitting are highly individualized. I bet the majority of people watching and liking this video are people who don't work at Google, like me, and are looking for reasons to comfort themselves for not being able to make it there. The target audience of this video isn't Googlers. It's the people who wished to become Googlers and failed at it or were too scared to even try and are now looking for ways to frame that as an advantage. Just a guess. Maybe I'm wrong.

I think Google is kind of like Harvard/Stanford. If you’re a good enough quality assurance specialist, graphic designer, software engineer etc you can get in. But once you get that name on your resume you can leverage it for better pay and compensation packages elsewhere. I think the grind wears people out the most

The perks of a big company like Google are nice, but it always feels like a very impersonal work environment. You often work in a team, but the teams feel like college group projects where everyone wants to get stuff done, but no one really knows each other. Plus Google goes through a ton of projects every year with a small fraction of that work going public so few people ever actually see your work. Maybe it's a personal thing, but I like working at the smaller companies where I can really get to know my co-workers and have a more personal connection to the projects and products we are developing. I also learn way more in a small company as my older co-workers often don't mind answering my questions because it helps everyone involved, but at big companies I felt like a bother to people around me for asking anything.

I would never compromise on my personal/family time for more perks/money. It always takes a toll on your health and mental well being.

Dinner at 6pm? I'll eat at home. Wifi on the shuttle? I'll work on my skills to later start my own company. Bring pets to work is ok? I don't have pets. Sometimes people create a cage for themselves. The value to Google, of that additional hour you work with no overtime pay - just to get a 'free' meal - is far in excess of what the meal is worth. I don't understand how supposedly intelligent people can't see this? Companies don't do _ANYTHING_ for 'free'. There's always a catch. My games company offered "free medical insurance" - which was the absolute bare minimum, and requires you to work there for 1 year before you can even claim anything. On top of all that? It's a tax deductible for them - and means they can pay you less too - and therefore, lower tax and 401 contributions. So many in tech act like their companies are "so nice" and "so generous" - but they're frankly too naïve to see the truth. For me, it's a well-paid job. That's it. If my side-hustle takes off, I'll be gone without a second's hesitation.

I always thought Google imbued certain values or mindset into its employees that leads them to leave the company and create startups or join another. Since Google is so highly praised from a job perspective, I thought the people leaving it must have had crazy good ideas while working there in such a environment.

Linus shared the story in some LTT podcast of how ex-employees at these companies seek less demanding jobs ( in this case LTT's floatplane ) but expect the same salary as in Google. They are paid so much exactly because how much is expected, it's not like you are now worth this much but google is just a bad company. Don't chase the paper, you'll spend it on releasing stress anyways.

All this “company culture” stuff is super cringe and kind of dehumanizing. Why can’t we just let a job be… a job? It shouldn’t have to rule your life. It shouldn’t be what defines you. It shouldn’t measure your worth to society.

The work stress is indeed a major issue for me personally. I'm not exactly bothered about working the extra hours (it's crazy, but I usually do that for no perks, so having perks would be great). I've worked in environments worse than what's described here. I wouldnt be too foolish to think of Google as just a laid back company. There are always demands, but working at Google would prepare individuals for the stress of work ahead. And I think most people can handle their startups after working at Google because of the extreme work ethics they've learned there.

That's a huge problem in the Software Industry, the pressure and responsabilities that companies and management put onto Developers are insane, and it can affect your mental health without a doubt

Stressful environment is worst situation you can find yourself in. Been there for 3 years straight and was one step from s@side. My mental health went south and was quickly followed by physical health too. Only leaving such environment can change things. Stay away.

From time on time I’ve received invitations to apply for 3 of the “big five” and honestly, I think that all those high salaries and big perks comes with a very high cost on your life balance. This is not all about money, sometimes it’s preferable to work on a more modest company but with an adequate work / life balance. Probably a more younger people may think I’m nut to not take it, but believe me that they doesn’t pay you that amounts for nothing. Even 1 year under that pressure could be enough to cause struggles on your sanity. Bells and whistles cannot hide the horror stories from many people leaving top companies.

I'm not surprised at all. Have been worked in Tech for sometime, I can say that every tech company more or less have the same situation. It's best to jump around in the early days of your career then if you still wanna continue working for a tech company choose which one suits your individual preferences. Some people would thrive in google whereas some might not but they may thrive in some other company. It all depends on the person.

I'm assuming one of the reasons is that it's extremely nice to have on your resume. Proof that you are one of the best, you grind your ass off for a bit and then get an easy job that you actually like

It looks like a good step in career and in CV. Seems to be a good exp to work in a strict deadlines for some time, besides headaches it also gives you chance to get a skill of planning with strict demanding PM and getting things done on time. Even if you want to leave in a 1 year.

Highly disagree on the "smartest people in the world." I've worked with lawyers from Ivy Leagues, and trust me, they're not the geniuses the name would have you think. If people can't set boundaries, they're selectively smart. And many of these ideas around pressure are self inflicted. They might be knowledgeable at technical aspects, but immensely underdeveloped emotionally. Like, YAY, you built a life around going to an Ivy League, then working for one of the biggest players in the game. Now, can you use that intelligence and perseverance towards your own fulfillment? No? Oh, too bad.

I can relate. I work for a well known bank and my job is extremely stressful. I don’t work at the window and I don’t take calls (even those positions are also very stressful). But they constantly give us gifts, promote mental health breaks etc. but the considerable amount of pressure that is put on myself & my coworkers is literally insane

This was a crazy interesting video! I have heard of all these things before but not quite in this light.

2:58 The difference between cage and perks is that you can escape perks. You leave earlier on your own and then buy dinner on your own.

DON'T LET ANYONE DECEIVE YOU. First hand experience...Google is by far the best place to work among all the FAANG or tech companies...not everyone resides in California just incase of commute and nobody will force you to stay behind work hour. As an adult I eat 2 times a day, brunch and dinner. All my friends either work for Google, Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Microsoft, Apple, LinkedIn, Nutanix. We always discuss life work balance. Google is the best place to work on the surface of the earth (my opinion). People leave their jobs because of bad mangers and high expectations that leads to burn out. That's why we have hybrid and remote (work from home).

For all those reasons am not convinced that working for google is a bad idea. If you get paid to the extent that you can run a startup after leaving, then the job made you grow after all. Also, for you to get into google, the amount of work that you would have done to get there is way greater than what you do there.

Actually coding is very stressful and tedious to learn depending on the language… but it pays off

Compared to my job as a construction worker, google seems like a really nice place to work for!

That’s exactly what I’m always saying. They try to make the workplace so great, that employees want to spend their life there. WHO benefits? The company 😀

I'm still applying, knowing full well it won't be a fun ride and that my motivation is to learn from and understand the tech giant, and to have a small early short-term boost to my savings (so I can take advantage of compounding interest).

It is no longer a career for life but a life of careers. Also, move every 4 years with a 20% pay rise and make sure you are always learning something new. Do not just work for money. Apply what you learn and money will follow. Job changes with pay increases also put the "power of compounding" to work for you. This also greatly expands your network of contacts. "Know how" and experience are good and "know who" makes them even better. Good luck.

Speaking from experience, Microsoft does the same thing. It is unequivocally an attempt to cajole younger team members to stick around later. However, most of the veteran SDEs I know have a good work-life balance and leave when they have other obligations. So really it is just a perk and only trap if you let it be.

Man….I worked at a cloud startup and it wasn’t a google or anything but it had a lot of similar perks. This was exactly why I left. It consumed my life and eventually I was always at work even when I wasn’t. The second mistake they made was because there was so much work to do I also learned a lot, so when I burned out and started looking for other jobs it was really easy to find a less stressful job lol. I talked to some old employees recently and it’s the same story with everyone.

I wonder how many people who leave Google miss it and regret it? Ten years ago, everyone who left seemed to regret it. These days, a lot less do. Also, I'm certain they hire a lot of people who are most comfortable working around the clock, actually enjoying being productive. Not everyone loves their jobs, but most people at Google seemed to.

I've worked in IT as a programmer for almost 25 years. Almost all those "perks" are just tricks to make you stay at the office even longer. "free lunch" just means you have to work through lunch. "gyms" just means you should now work in the evenings. What's most ridiculous is when you're on salary and they want you to work for free on your days off. However, most of these arrogant executives with their useless degrees are too stupid to realize that when you burn people out work quality goes down the drain. I code the best in the mornings after I'm well rested and after breaks when I get away from the computer for a short while.

I worked at facebook and what you missed is that the dinner would be served at like 630pm and the shuttle shedule was like 630pm then 730pm so if youre going to dinner then youre not taking the 630 shuttle.

Worker retention is one of the best indicators of a good workplace. Ivy league schools like Harvard, Princeton, and Yale have very high retention rates (97-99%). For employers it's Airlines, Banks, and Telecom companies.

Everything is not as it seems but i know for sure im taking my breaks. I dont care how far behind something is when its break time its break time. Refresh eat drink(smoke if you do) and get back to work. Take it day by day. Deadlines are not your responsibility, as long as you’re doing your best.

I love how people from the first world complaining about google. Indian devs, chinese devs and latam dev are the ones that survive in google because they are use to do hard work, first world’s devs are like ‘ohhh no I wont code 9 hours per day!!! My nails!!!!!’ Just look where are from the most important persons in google. INDIA

Thanks for the video!

I think it depends on how you see this. I enjoyed working for Google for 4.5 years. I learned a lot. They will value you if you are creative. As for my deadline, most of those were achievable.

Google sounds like smth I'd use as a stepping stone, like ye put up w hell for a short while and then go out w an awesome looking resume+ start smth on my own.

I still think I’d rather work at google then my old jobs. I’d be working 12 hours a day at my old job with no benefits, no meals, doing hard manual labor and hardly a 30 minute break. Working at google to me sounds like an absolute dream

Not a Google employee or anything, but if I had those benefits, I would just drive myself to work (I already do 1 hour commutes, which can be 1.5 hours with heavy traffic), be early for breakfast, work, get free lunch, clock out at 5, go home. If anything, you get paid enough, try and find close accommodation for housing. The perks of a job aren't meant so that you *have* to take advantage of them even at your own detriment. Take them as a supplement and nothing more. Now that you get free breakfast and lunch, you don't have to worry about going to the grocery store *as often*, nor wasting time on meal prep and cooking. You *gain* some time back, especially when it comes to cleaning. It's always give and take. Those complaining about the perks just never took a second to think about opportunity costs

Perks at the office are just another way to keep you in the office. The best perk a job can offer is competitive pay regardless of the job being remote or not. Money and time are the 2 biggest motivator for staying at a company.

• food until 6:30 is cool. If you work until 6:30. You could arrive late in the morning • dogs in office is a nice police to not have them home bark • if you are in a one hour drive and can work wonderful, it does not mean you are forced

It reminds me of my canvassing job, we basically had a paid place to stay but at what cost was that we had to work six days a week and almost always 12 hour shifts. We also had cars but that too came with working more and more hours. This came with traveling but now they essentially just own you.

Crazy how accurate this is! I just clicked on this video as it explains very well my last 10+ years in the business

Regarding the perks - for me, excessive work perks/benefits are a red flag. I don't want my workplace to become a second home. I want to come in, do my work, and come out - or even better, work remotely (which I've been doing since 2020) and waste no time commuting.

A mate has worked at google for years. He reckons the hardest thing by far was the interview process. When you have so many applicants you need to be able to thin the field somehow.

The name of Google in your CV is a life-saver, that's why.

It is, two close friends state if you take your personal time seriously and are social then you will get the best of both. Both use hybrid work model and free food and gym and get the most out of the perks. Yes there is the social pressure of you got to be a hard worker but if you take Life Work balance serious and do really well on networking, the house of cards analogy is very important, then you will do great.

I work at Google (~3 years) and in my experience, reasons #1 and 2 make no sense. I have a hypothesis that both of these points come from people working in Mountain View or other California offices, which I hear have a worse work life balance and are generally much more competitive and less nice to work at. (I've worked in Seattle and Pittsburgh for reference) For #1, the perks are great. Most people just pick 2 meals a day or fewer to stay for, so the work hours are a non-issue. I don't understand the bus point either, I would either just *not* work on the bus or factor my time working on the bus into my 8 hours of work. Plus the family leave, bereavement, work from home, and other policies are great. Those kinds of benefits far outweigh the frilly amenities like massages for me and they're top-tier at Google. As far as #2, I couldn't have a more different experience. I've had a really laid-back experience (still productive ofc) & haven't felt the stress these people describe in the slightest. Again, this feels like a Mountain View / California specific issue. (maybe New York as well, I'm not sure) I can vouch for #3, working with talented people can definitely give you imposter syndrome and make it harder to stand out. For #4, there are definitely internal politics that make things frustrating sometime, but I've only seen it for project-related stuff (prioritization of projects, assigning work to teams, etc) not for promotions. And of course #5 is very individual, can't speak to that.

as always jack . Thanks for reality In this open world , people are doing same thing to beat the competition & even this is obvious if you're getting paid more you'll get stress more.

Happiness is ultimately about being in the right environment and everyone has one for himself. One just need to find it.

The 1.1 years is a misleading figure. The number is how long each the average employee has spent at the company, not how long from them joining until quitting. The reason why this is an important distinction is that the 1.1 years figures also includes current employees, and google has been hiring aggressively in the past few years (especially 2021) so now the average employee hasn't been in the company as long

I work as a temp in MV. Blessed to have a good team and my job is pretty chill. It really depends on colleagues and management. I'm enjoying the perks of free food, beverages and snacks. I always pack a box togo at lunch for my dinner. I get free access to the gym and free EV charging. I can't really speak on behalf of the FTE but so far I'm enjoying my time there. However, downside is all contractors, temps, vendors must be onsite 3 days a week while FTE are given flexibility or can get approved to work remote permanently. Traffic sucks. I plan to go back to my old team at another Faang company when they open an headcount for me. 😀

They don't have to be benevolent or malicious. Sometimes it's just a matter of an environment not fitting everyone. some people feel tons of stress from things that others can take in stride and neither is wrong. They're just different

I feel like the reason people quit in just one year is not that Google doesn't provide a good work space, and that their job is not good. The major reason is that people's expectations going into the job is just too high, and when those expectations are not met, people feel massively disappointed.

This sounds so much better than being an auto tech, look into that field. Long hours minimal benefits typically 6 days weeks, you pay for all of your own tools, high stress. We’re usually happy with a pizza day to be honest.

A lot of these issues aren't specific to Google or even the tech industry as a whole. If you work for a company that is at the top of the industry, more will be expected from you and the higher up the corporate ladder you go, the more stressful your job will be. If you want the company prestige and/ or C-level pay, then understand the consequences.

Yeah, I definitely have boundaries even at work. This wouldn’t push me to stay later or eat lunch at my desk.

I work in a call center and everything you said didn't sound as bad. I'm currently trying to learn Python by myself and I would badly take the chance to work for a company such as Google. Someone misery can be somebody blessing.

I've always noticed that, in general, working for someone else doesn't pay off in the long run. Behind any great benefits there will always be an equal dark side.

The real tell is how management reacts if you don't use the perks.

Some of yall have never lived in poverty and it shows , I'm sure that Google's work environment can be exploitive, but they at least compensate you even for entry levels positions. Anyone who's complaining about Google should try working at literally any restaurant...

Every work culture is a gig economy at the moment, seems to be like car insurance, limited perks for loyalty, jumping ship every year seems to be how you get anywhere

It's no surprise that Square Enix only accept Extremely skilled and Experienced employees because they know that their Deadlines are Aggressive depending on their employees' roles.

honestly, I hate how we sugar coat everything and make it seem like it's the company fault. There's a lot of people in the industry who want everything good for them but they don't have the skills or the mindset to learn the skills needed to keep up with the work. The idea work smarter not harder comes from having experience and being able to analyze a problem more effectively. I think most jr engineers lack these skills.

I still want to work with google. Other googler have been there more than 10years and Google is still a great place to be. There's no company on my mind other than google. They have the greatest minds and it will be an honour to work with people like that as a team.

Just for the first point, I think that's really a "depends on your current stage of life" or "personal value" problem. Because to me there's nothing inherently wrong with the surplus of perks, the fault is going into them thinking that you're at Disneyland instead of work. Like ya the perks are super good, but the reason why the model works is because it does get folks to work longer. If you're a young 20-something engineer with no external-to-work responsibilities whose options are that or hang in your small, bay area studio apartment, it may not be a hard decision to stay later and do more work. Harder decision to make if you have an SO or a family to take care of (as an example). I don't think trap is as appropriate of a term as golden Handcuffs are. They are really nice Handcuffs, but Handcuffs nonetheless

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