Why Nobody Can Fix This New York Skyscraper

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The Impossible Build

The Impossible Build

2 місяці тому

This is One Seaport, a luxury tower that was meant to be a symbol of ambition. Now, it's an abandoned eyesore, a multi-million-dollar testament to a construction nightmare. Lawsuits swirl, engineers scratching their heads, and potential residents turn away in disbelief.
How did a state-of-the-art skyscraper mega project end up tilting before it was even finished?
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@TheImpossibleBuild
@TheImpossibleBuild Місяць тому
A nightmare for New York, will this ever get fixed?
@edu7979
@edu7979 Місяць тому
its fubar, in my eyes atleast
@BEdwardStover
@BEdwardStover Місяць тому
No. The longer they fight, the more impossible it gets. But trying to go the cheap route in the first place makes the fix much more expensive than if they just went to bedrock all the way around at the start. Now they got the building in the way as well as the half assed foundation in the way. There may not be room enough to work around both, and they may have to drill through some of the concrete they put in place. Which will cost like drilling though solid rock.
@lorenzoblum868
@lorenzoblum868 Місяць тому
All they need to do is change the name of the tower to East Pisa Tower.
@jeffw8218
@jeffw8218 Місяць тому
No.
@scoopydaniels8908
@scoopydaniels8908 Місяць тому
It'll get fixed when they tear it down and build something practical on the site.. something drilled solidly into the Bedrock
@HammerOn-bu7gx
@HammerOn-bu7gx Місяць тому
That $6 million is looking cheep now.
@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79
@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 Місяць тому
Just only
@geniferteal4178
@geniferteal4178 Місяць тому
I was thinking that anyway over the cost of the whole project.
@wobby1516
@wobby1516 Місяць тому
@@geniferteal4178 Like so many companies, Boeing comes to mind! Accountants run the show and look at profits more than quality and safety. Left to engineers they surely would have opted for safety and gone down to bedrock.
@bigtime4794
@bigtime4794 Місяць тому
You don't know cheap
@jonathantaylor6926
@jonathantaylor6926 Місяць тому
No kidding. The legal fees alone will prob cost more.
@johnkeviljr9625
@johnkeviljr9625 Місяць тому
“Caissons to bedrock”. Three words that would have saved the building. I learned those three words 50 years ago in architecture school. Damn.
@zell863
@zell863 Місяць тому
After battle all are generals.
@jonathantaylor6926
@jonathantaylor6926 Місяць тому
And it only saved 6 million doing it the cheaper way. In this context 6M isn’t that much money.
@JosephOlson-ld2td
@JosephOlson-ld2td Місяць тому
Architects are not educated enough to oversee crooked contractors and shady structural engineers > always get a second opinion
@johnkeviljr9625
@johnkeviljr9625 Місяць тому
@@zell863 Lessons not learned. Or not learned from others experience. You don't have to be a general to be a skillful observer.
@johnkeviljr9625
@johnkeviljr9625 Місяць тому
@@JosephOlson-ld2td You don't know the right architects. But I agree on a second opinion.
@wacokidjim1973
@wacokidjim1973 Місяць тому
"A scenic esplanade bustling with walkers and cyclists" Shows elevated highway
@bmichael8187
@bmichael8187 Місяць тому
It's East Side Highway. Should be torn down ..
@bigradwolf5001
@bigradwolf5001 Місяць тому
Must be a retirement esplanade with seniors either on walkers or wheelchairs.
@alanhill769
@alanhill769 Місяць тому
Yeah but you can see over the top the higher you go.
@jamesjohnson1050
@jamesjohnson1050 Місяць тому
There's actually a bike path and restaurants and eateries up under that freeway.
@emjayay
@emjayay Місяць тому
Yes, they should have found some ground video instead of the drone stuff to go with that. But it's all in process of being redone with better river flooding control.
@76UVB
@76UVB Місяць тому
The additional $6 million to properly prepare the foundation when spread across the cost of units in that building would probably not have affected the occupancy rate. It's an example of pure greed on the part of the developer and it looks good on them that their gamble failed.
@scottwooledge6387
@scottwooledge6387 Місяць тому
You’re right. There were 99 units and spreading $6M among them would have been just over $60K. But hey. Developers needed that extra profit margin to buy their private island.
@williamhaynes7089
@williamhaynes7089 Місяць тому
@@scottwooledge6387 - you never know this fiasco could have been finaced by your retiremnet fund...
@elizabethwitt2621
@elizabethwitt2621 Місяць тому
What about the buyers of these condos? Are they still on the hook for the mortgage because the building isn't finished or safe?
@AnonymousGameWarden
@AnonymousGameWarden Місяць тому
This isn't a new concept.. At one point in New York history. Entire buildings were going up in flames because builders were trying to save pennies on light bulbs.
@scottwooledge6387
@scottwooledge6387 Місяць тому
@@elizabethwitt2621 I read that the buyer's deposits were returned. I don't think they would have had a mortgage before taking possession of the units, which no one has done.
@Leftfield71
@Leftfield71 Місяць тому
Those ultra-thin skyscrapers freak me out.
@markthompson180
@markthompson180 Місяць тому
Me too - they just look like they don't have a wide enough base to remain upright for long.
@horseshoe182
@horseshoe182 Місяць тому
it does my head in, how can they build so high with such a comparably small foundations, but they can do it.
@Crazy-Clown-In-Town
@Crazy-Clown-In-Town Місяць тому
Skyscrapers are getting thinner while people are getting fatter.
@justSTUMBLEDupon
@justSTUMBLEDupon Місяць тому
I watched videos saying they creek loudly during windy days.
@bigradwolf5001
@bigradwolf5001 Місяць тому
They should have consulted SEA where technology of such are a science.
@craigphillips3189
@craigphillips3189 Місяць тому
Greed Before Safety.
@artistny0000
@artistny0000 Місяць тому
In the building next door 181 Maiden Lane most of the piles are driven to “the “point of refusal” with large pile caps. It has not tilted at all in 43 years.
@Thundergy
@Thundergy Місяць тому
that buildign is also fat as shit
@calvoh9715
@calvoh9715 Місяць тому
you would rather have problems in beams and slabs than foundations and columns.
@lingeng2659
@lingeng2659 Місяць тому
They took the risk for the 6 million additional return. Now the risk is being realized.
@spacecadet35
@spacecadet35 Місяць тому
I have discovered that most engineering disasters are caused by some manager going "we could save a bit of money by...." They don't realise that good engineers have already designed the structure to be as cheap as possible, but still meet all of the engineering requirements. Usually the management's cost cutting comes straight out of the structures safety margin.
@Giggiyygoo
@Giggiyygoo Місяць тому
All the high tech computer designs and engineering, but the ones built in the 30s with guys throwing hot rivets are still standing strong.
@terry_willis
@terry_willis Місяць тому
And slide rules too.
@MrBronx61
@MrBronx61 28 днів тому
💯💯💯 I used to work in the Empire State Building. It's a work of art.
@jamesthornton9399
@jamesthornton9399 27 днів тому
it is goodfoundation not the rivits. The need foundation to bedrock.
@kkapalle
@kkapalle 27 днів тому
Then go look for yourself 🤥
@hieverybody4246
@hieverybody4246 26 днів тому
Well, the ones that didn't get torn down.
@BOBBOB-tx7ox
@BOBBOB-tx7ox Місяць тому
As an architect I would have gotten fired from this job in the design phase because I would have insisted that the foundation be set in bedrock. I hate cheap clients trying to save a buck instead of doing it the correct way in the first place. Also, these super thin towers defy logic, the structure required to keep them standing is unreal.
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 27 днів тому
They knew the issue right from the start...they collectively used an alternative method...just didn't work out.
@BOBBOB-tx7ox
@BOBBOB-tx7ox 27 днів тому
@@GSP-76 alternative method means cheaper, cheaper means problems, I run into this all the time, I fight it all the time. Cutting corners means future problems just ask Boeing. Buildings, planes bridges fail because of stupid human hubris.
@mikedonnarumma5337
@mikedonnarumma5337 Місяць тому
greed takes a SMACK here
@tobygoodguy4032
@tobygoodguy4032 Місяць тому
180 Maiden built 40+ years ago never has any of these foundation problems ... because back then, we knew how to build.
@rb5174
@rb5174 Місяць тому
The Hyatt regency construction didn’t do so well 40 years ago in Missouri
@NOMOone
@NOMOone Місяць тому
Back then, the people who built the original buildings in NYC, were from a different time and culture, they had more advanced tech then these dummy architects we have today. These modern architects you see taking credit for the construction of these buildings, were not even on earth when they were built. No contemporary architect will ever be able to emulate any of the Tartarian super structures all over the earth.
@DeanStephen
@DeanStephen Місяць тому
@@rb5174Totally different issue. Plus, that was a result of an unauthorised change by the contractor.
@calvoh9715
@calvoh9715 Місяць тому
@@NOMOone you mean architects are structural engineers in the US?
@bobsmith6079
@bobsmith6079 Місяць тому
@DeanStephen You're incorrect, the change in the walkway supports was authorized by the engineering firm going from single rod supports to offset rods with the tension transmitted through a hollow horizontal support which doubled the load on nut on the upper support rod. It was the largest death toll in US history from a building collapse and kept that title until 9/11. The engineers lost their licenses as did the company which failed. There is one interesting fact about the level of corruption in that the entire inspection process for the building took less than an hour so it wasn't so much inspected as just rubber stamped.
@grantdennis8678
@grantdennis8678 Місяць тому
should have spent the $6mil on the foundations to bedrock. DOH!!!
@mvd4436
@mvd4436 Місяць тому
They opted for this nightmare to save 6 million? That's insane 😂 i assumed the extra cost would be 20-25 million
@madratter
@madratter Місяць тому
U Mass Amherst built a 26 story library with brick facade. They didn't estimate the weight of the books correctly. When they started to fill it, bricks under compression started blowing off the sides... Their fix was to wrap the entire building in fence 30' away from the building and make one entrance under a covered roof while only using half the floors. There are entire floors with no access and no books. Other floors are empty except cubicles for people to study. On the same campus the residential buildings known as, "the towers" were built in swamp land and have continued to sink since they opened. Over the years they have had to remove and lower the stairs at the entrances to accommodate the new depth of the buildings
@williamgottlieb8723
@williamgottlieb8723 25 днів тому
The information from all of those books that needed a 26-story building to house it could probably fit on a single hard drive today.
@pyhead9916
@pyhead9916 24 дні тому
26 stories of brick? That's ridiculous!
@BEdwardStover
@BEdwardStover Місяць тому
Yup, they screwed up. Saw the cost, went cheap. The cost wasn't even that much 166 feet is done all the time.
@BlueGoat682
@BlueGoat682 Місяць тому
This problem reminds me of a similar problem with the Millenium Tower in downtown San Francisco.
@kevinjay5908
@kevinjay5908 Місяць тому
The leaning tower of San Francisco.
@germansniper5277
@germansniper5277 Місяць тому
finally someone admitting that 3 inches is a lot
@martinogold
@martinogold Місяць тому
😆
@wilsjane
@wilsjane Місяць тому
As my nan always said, add one inch to the end of your nose and everyone will notice. LOL
@Splash111
@Splash111 17 днів тому
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@billhammett174
@billhammett174 Місяць тому
Thus being the Big Apple, the obvious questions are: Which NY City politicians reaped contributions/favors from the developer? Which NY City building inspectors received favors/jobs from the developer? Which consulting firms received contracts/favors from the developer?
@MVos-md3rp
@MVos-md3rp 24 дні тому
There is a Kojak episode circa 1975 ish exposing exactly how it gets done!
@rms1034
@rms1034 Місяць тому
considering that the foundation caisons to bedrock was only 6 million, and units sold for over a million... it should have been a no brainer to go for the sure bet and not risk your massive investment.
@MrManfly
@MrManfly Місяць тому
The builder wanted to pocket that money, that’s the problem 🤷🏻‍♂️
@howardfam49
@howardfam49 Місяць тому
Hindsight is always 20/20 cheaper.
@williamhaynes7089
@williamhaynes7089 Місяць тому
just because they sell for 1 million doesnt mean its all profit... but now its a loss for sure
@dixonpinfold2582
@dixonpinfold2582 Місяць тому
Excuse me, but no building of just 60 stories, only 670 feet tall, can even come anywhere near "dominating New York City's downtown skyline." It ranks 87th. That's like saying some player who's 6'3" dominates the boards in the NBA.
@Ues2DC
@Ues2DC Місяць тому
Chuck is about 6’4 so close 🙂
@eyefreely9682
@eyefreely9682 Місяць тому
3 inches ain't so bad... It's All in how you use it!
@bigradwolf5001
@bigradwolf5001 Місяць тому
They can balance this over time choosing the fatties to live on the other side.
@kelvinkimani1853
@kelvinkimani1853 Місяць тому
Sure
@joevarga5982
@joevarga5982 Місяць тому
We'll take you word for it.
@newyorkeranew
@newyorkeranew Місяць тому
Fact is, this is among the hideous buildings to curse New York’s contemporary skyline. It might fit perfectly well in Miami or even the Upper East Side, but among the array of downtown’s office towers and the Seaport, it’s a blight. It’s gratifying to see the developers take a bath on this one.
@mariuquidiello
@mariuquidiello 15 днів тому
In Miami with the sea corrosion, all buildings are in danger !
@Acehitman369
@Acehitman369 Місяць тому
3 inches is nothing, Mllennium tower in San Francisco Lean 29 inches on one corner of the building
@JohnnyT002
@JohnnyT002 Місяць тому
Until it falls.
@jeffarchibald3837
@jeffarchibald3837 Місяць тому
The Frisco tower is leaning to the left.
@xr6lad
@xr6lad Місяць тому
@@jeffarchibald3837all of Frisco leans to the Left. The Extreme Left.
@Sean-ll5cm
@Sean-ll5cm Місяць тому
@@xr6lad the extreme left is communism, yet the core of its problems is unrestrained capitalism
@simonrockwell4254
@simonrockwell4254 Місяць тому
Ya just got to love these people that know everything. Go fix the problem then...
@cmleoj
@cmleoj Місяць тому
One line from the Wikipedia article stands out: The developer “hired the Italian firm Pizzarotti as general contractor, likely in part because of Pizzarotti's low rates.” The Esplanade gang has entered the chat.
@marks6663
@marks6663 Місяць тому
The Leaning Tower of Pizzarotti
@chriswatson2407
@chriswatson2407 Місяць тому
It is leaning towards the Millennium Tower obviously.
@boxsterman77
@boxsterman77 Місяць тому
I thought it was leaning north.
@jakeforrest
@jakeforrest Місяць тому
If you are at the exact North Pole, any leaning in any direction, will be towards south.
@mitchellbarnow1709
@mitchellbarnow1709 Місяць тому
Imagine if major earthquakes were possible like in San Francisco’s 1906 earthquake!
@7477238
@7477238 Місяць тому
Good video. There's nothing more expensive than cutting costs. Time in and time out people still make that mistake.
@commonsense5741
@commonsense5741 Місяць тому
Even the Bible talks about building your house on sand instead of rock.😂
@steveo3831
@steveo3831 Місяць тому
A house. Not a high rise!
@FastCarsLoudMusic
@FastCarsLoudMusic Місяць тому
The hubris of man knows no bounds.
@OmniGuy
@OmniGuy Місяць тому
It's a shame. I think the building design is stunning. A great looking heap.
@ciuzdamm
@ciuzdamm Місяць тому
Neglected and abandoned building: squatters, what are you waiting for?
@mustafabransfield340
@mustafabransfield340 Місяць тому
I actually find comfort in the fact that 3 inches is cause for concern with construction on a building that tall. Sounds like they are on it, unlike another building i know..
@williamhaynes7089
@williamhaynes7089 Місяць тому
its not at full weight either, plus you have to add the weight of residential furniture/belongings etc
@davidrose9668
@davidrose9668 8 днів тому
Over tIme its no gonna say 3 inches,Subsidence.
@ANT18621
@ANT18621 Місяць тому
I rather have a 100 plus acres of land in the country with a modest log cabin any day instead of living there.
@michaelcauser474
@michaelcauser474 28 днів тому
I will second that statement. You will not get me up in one of those towers except in a straight jacket and chains.
@ANT18621
@ANT18621 28 днів тому
@@michaelcauser474 lol! 😂
@bdickinson6751
@bdickinson6751 25 днів тому
It makes them feel special to be able to say they live in that shithole of a city!
@LuisRodriguez-ns9mo
@LuisRodriguez-ns9mo Місяць тому
No Thank you.. I wouldn’t go there even to visit
@bdickinson6751
@bdickinson6751 25 днів тому
👍
@mlb6d9
@mlb6d9 Місяць тому
It seems with these tall, thin towers that going the extra mile with foundation prep would be a no brainer
@ronnrayy5449
@ronnrayy5449 Місяць тому
Some people won't consider expensive precautions until they are screwed by the shortcuts. Things like this need to happen sometimes in order for others to not be as reckless in similar situations
@user-ts4fo9ol9x
@user-ts4fo9ol9x Місяць тому
Everybody knows pilings need to go down to bedrock if you build a tower on land created by fill. The owners and engineers on the job were incompetent, crooks, or both. New York had better arrange to remove the structure and do it soon.
@glenndhorallmyxlvntx9294
@glenndhorallmyxlvntx9294 Місяць тому
Don’t even have to be a civil engineer to know this.
@OlDoinyo
@OlDoinyo Місяць тому
There are some places (albeit not here) where bedrock is more than a mile down. New Orleans is such a place. Driving piles to bedrock in those places is simply not possible.
@jus10lewissr
@jus10lewissr 22 дні тому
The fact that the rather severe issues -- and the causes of those issues -- with the Millennium Tower in San Francisco are very well known makes this here seem even crazier. You'd think someone would say, "We're definitely going to do this the right way and drive piles all the way down to bedrock to avoid something like that from happening here in Manhattan," but apparently not.
@adammiller2246
@adammiller2246 Місяць тому
I remember when they proposed this building.. I thought they are out of their minds due to the underground
@yvanhuneault-kudos
@yvanhuneault-kudos 20 днів тому
Fascinating. (Writing and production are excellent.)
@imham984
@imham984 Місяць тому
Thank you for the great video
@ZeitGeist_TV
@ZeitGeist_TV Місяць тому
I can't imagine yesterday's earthquake helping the situation of this building. This is what happens when you put upfront cost over long-term understanding of do it right means you do it once. Whatever cost measures to fix the tilt, prevent further tilting, legal fee's and inability to fulfill residence will all be multiple times higher then $7 million to build to bedrock.
@JakeobE
@JakeobE Місяць тому
0:24 If the tower was visibly tilting (to someone's perspective with just their bare eyes), the tower would have collapsed a long time ago. The Millennium Tower in SF has a far more concerning tilt, yet it is not possible to see the tilt with just your eyes.
@danielwalker6653
@danielwalker6653 Місяць тому
Millenium tower isn't nearly as skinny (lower aspect ratio) as this building. A small lean is much more likely to be catastrophic especially as the lean is to the North across the narrower part of the building. This building will have to be demoed - and without implosion. That will cost $50+ M. The only question is when that will happen and who will pay for it.
@williamhaynes7089
@williamhaynes7089 Місяць тому
@@danielwalker6653 - if contrcator files bankruptcy and disaprears.. the people that own the lot will have to sell it cheap
@spongebob-ek1fp
@spongebob-ek1fp 29 днів тому
The city should be. Responsible for approving the blueprints and the designs.
@raraszek
@raraszek Місяць тому
Because all new condos built after 2015 cut corners like crazy and use very cheap materials. It's a no-brainer.
@markazinker3212
@markazinker3212 Місяць тому
amazing in this day and age that stuff like this happens, i’m sure there are plenty of people right here on youtube that saw this scenario unfolding
@johnpoindexter6594
@johnpoindexter6594 Місяць тому
GREED IS WHAT MADE IT TILT! 😂
@SnowFish-kk6ut
@SnowFish-kk6ut Місяць тому
I find myself most impressed by whomever repelled down and painted the graffiti on the top 8 floors shown at 9:03.
@justaviewer111
@justaviewer111 Місяць тому
The Millenium Towner in San Francisco is leaning 10 times as much as it's full of residents. Why is 3 inchs that bad? Do they expect it to continue?
@scoopydaniels8908
@scoopydaniels8908 Місяць тому
The only thing that makes buildings in New York not frightening to be in is the fact that you know it's literally drilled into the Bedrock.. the actual hard, solid granite crust of the Earth which is exceptionally strong and stable in New York.. the stability of the ground is part of what makes New York city so special.. ( that and the fact that you can drink water out of your faucet anywhere in New York City with total confidence. New York City's water wins taste test over bottled)
@NickCBax
@NickCBax Місяць тому
As for tap water in NYC, don’t look into the roof top tanks that supply water pressure. They’re a cleaning nightmare.
@scoopydaniels8908
@scoopydaniels8908 Місяць тому
@@NickCBax I was at a wedding not too long ago and I was absolutely shocked to see a wood water tower on a roof. I had no idea that they were still using wooden water tanks
@NickCBax
@NickCBax Місяць тому
​@@scoopydaniels8908 Yup.. And some of them have dead animals, excess algae, bird poop, and the like floating in them..
@lumbaracres3587
@lumbaracres3587 Місяць тому
different story in the wikipedia article about this building, "The developer hired engineering firms WSP Global and Arup Group, which both concluded that the building's lean did not compromise its structural integrity." etc.
@squallie78
@squallie78 Місяць тому
"The Leaning Tower of Pizzarotti" - a Shining Monument to the "Open-Shop" movement in NYC Construction. BUILD UNION.
@ZT-vr4wz
@ZT-vr4wz Місяць тому
The Bush & Cheny Demolition Company could easily fix it. 😅
@JohnnyT002
@JohnnyT002 Місяць тому
Thy need to take it down before it falls down.
@rdmorris1947
@rdmorris1947 Місяць тому
Trump constructors would underbid, not pay their subcontractors, and then file for bankruptcy while throwing every delaying tactic known to the legal profession. This project is made for the likes of Trump.
@RoadKing65
@RoadKing65 Місяць тому
@@rdmorris1947 And Biden would just drool and ask to play with his Legos
@Ray__E
@Ray__E Місяць тому
​@@RoadKing65that'll be trump. The guy can't even hold a cup of water with one hand. Just like a toddler
@xr6lad
@xr6lad Місяць тому
@@Ray__Eare you in the USA totally in denial of what stuff Biden does that us in the rest of the world see on our media. The man is literally senile asking to met peoples that have been dead for years or stopping in the middle of speeches looking lost? Is your media covering for him that much?
@pauledwards9047
@pauledwards9047 Місяць тому
Keep in mind also the city of New York had to approve the engineering of this building for the permitting. They are partially responsible as well. They should've never taken this risk and made the developer pay for the proper engineering.
@felipericketts
@felipericketts Місяць тому
Not the first developer that tries to save money by not going down to bedrock with piles and runs into trouble!
@garyabc
@garyabc 26 днів тому
We need to know more! Tell us the progress on this building.
@l0os176
@l0os176 Місяць тому
It would have only added $6 million to the total to have a sturdy foundation? Sounds like they could have afforded to do that.
@bdickinson6751
@bdickinson6751 25 днів тому
But they were saving money. 🤔 I wonder how all of those high priced lawyers are making out?
@kevinanaks8554
@kevinanaks8554 Місяць тому
The lean can simply be managed through balancing on the opposite side that sways the structure
@mrtechie6810
@mrtechie6810 Місяць тому
The tree with deepest roots remains standing after the storm.
@juanhaver6584
@juanhaver6584 Місяць тому
Take the developer to the cleaners over this, sue the shareholders personally for the demolition
@FiveBlackFootedFerrets
@FiveBlackFootedFerrets Місяць тому
Curiously there is no mention of a thorough geologic survey to assess the suitability of building a high-rise tower on anything less than bedrock. From the information provided in this short documentary, it seems obvious the engineers were cutting corners to control cost. The fact that the building began to settle unevenly before it was completed is telling. The design specifications were clearly deeply flawed. I'm a geologist and this is what happens when a building is poorly designed and under engineered. I've read the book about the construction of the Brooklyn bridge written by Stephen Ambrose. That structure which crosses the east river stands as a testament to robust engineering accomplished well before scale models or computer modeling was even a pipe dream. It was the world's longest suspension bridge for twenty years.
@just_in_key
@just_in_key Місяць тому
Millennium tower has a competitor now
@mayling141
@mayling141 Місяць тому
They could have saved themselves 6 million headaches when they just embedded the foundation into the bedrock.
@robertspeschel9868
@robertspeschel9868 Місяць тому
I’m just a small builder, but how many times in the past have I said “ Never enough time to do it right, but always enough time to do it over again,
@africantraveler7004
@africantraveler7004 17 днів тому
This tower was just down the road from our apartment building on Pearl Street while visiting NYC last summer. My kid & I noticed & chatted about odd design & the tilt. We thought it was part of some innovative design 😂😂 But my kid did say "looks really scary & ready to topple over"
@Blaqjaqshellaq
@Blaqjaqshellaq Місяць тому
That was a fearless graffiti artist at 09:00 !
@vladsnape6408
@vladsnape6408 Місяць тому
0:20 The other tower in the picture is also 'not standing straight and leaning', so it needs to be fixed or demolished as well.
@billalhossain3134
@billalhossain3134 Місяць тому
Would a possible solution be reduce the floor numbers? In that way the building could anchor itself properly.
@josvankrieken6874
@josvankrieken6874 Місяць тому
Stupid cost cut, thanks for the video
@keytothegate68
@keytothegate68 Місяць тому
Three inch lean may not be that bad. The Millennium Tower in SF. Has 14 in lean and it got slightly worse after the attempted fix
@arnkriegbaum
@arnkriegbaum Місяць тому
yes, but a lot of the weight has not even been added nor have all windows been added which both would add to the foundation stress so the whole thing is probably going to be brought down. sad
@Mrch33ky
@Mrch33ky Місяць тому
Hard to believe a building designed like a sail made out of concrete could perform so poorly in the wind.
@S-K69
@S-K69 27 днів тому
This issue is the definition of trying to pick up penny’s in front of a steam roller. They tried to save $6m and ended up costing themselves hundreds of millions. Pure greed and stupidity. You’re building a LUXURY tower. Just imagine the other corners they were cutting. I don’t even mean structural/engineering corners, I mean just on the quality of amenity material they were using. I’ve seen a lot of luxury buildings in NYC in my time and their quality has consistently gone down with each decade. It’s the small things, like seams not lining up, grout and sealant cracking, poor building maintenance infrastructure, things like that. But when you’re buying luxury property it’s those little things that matter.
@bobsmith6079
@bobsmith6079 Місяць тому
This is exactly the same problem that happened in Frisco with the Millennium Tower but it has 58 stories and a 28 inch lean measured from the top. An attempt to fix the lean actually accelerated the leaning rate and amount and it has been halted.
@robinsattahip2376
@robinsattahip2376 Місяць тому
That's another mess like the one in San Francisco that any new engineer would be a fool to touch, it's a litigation trap.
@zell863
@zell863 Місяць тому
3" is not too much of lining. Edit second like in case of Millenium tower of SF after battle all are generals. Structural engineering is not an exact science. You do the best what you can. They tried something new and it didn't work.
@dub604
@dub604 Місяць тому
Respect to whoever sprayed the graffiti at the top.... 😂
@suekuan1540
@suekuan1540 Місяць тому
A building in san Francisco has a similar but worst tilt as well.
@donjensen785
@donjensen785 5 днів тому
You don't need to be an engineer to see that this aspect ratio was guaranteed to fail.
@lifeisgood1488
@lifeisgood1488 Місяць тому
What I see, engineers and architects are taking too much risk in developing these very tall buildings, ratio height 15 - 1 is extreme.
@j-note3285
@j-note3285 26 днів тому
I know nothing about architecture or building but it just seems that cutting corners on the FOUNDATION is really not the way to save expense. I'm shocked that any developer would consider it with a building of that size.
@stevec404
@stevec404 Місяць тому
Millenium Tower anyone?
@KidHorn7001
@KidHorn7001 Місяць тому
Can they attach it to the big building next to it to help hold it straight?
@chickenlittle2206
@chickenlittle2206 21 годину тому
No. It would throw all the math that went into that building clean onto the next page. Wind shears, loads every equation which went into that building would then be mute. It's gotta come down. Anything important to you in life- its important it has a solid foundation. Better you learn from their mistakes on their dime than destroy two buildings.
@kevinjohnson7374
@kevinjohnson7374 Місяць тому
I’d rather live in Brooklyn or Queens for a 10th of the price with a view of the city skyline over paying millions to live in city with a view of Brooklyn, Queens, SI or Jersey.
@sabastian4858
@sabastian4858 Місяць тому
Yes you would.
@billy.7113
@billy.7113 Місяць тому
Brooklyn and Queens are cheaper, but NOT at 1/10 of Manhattan price.
@ohthankg-dforthebourgeoisi9800
@ohthankg-dforthebourgeoisi9800 Місяць тому
I’d rather not live on the east coast AT ALL. It’s disgusting.
@jackmehoff5523
@jackmehoff5523 Місяць тому
Why would anyone wanna live there? It looks like a miserable existence.
@rhodamiller7338
@rhodamiller7338 Місяць тому
NEVER BUILD ON FILL! See the Marina district in San Francisco after the 1989 earthquake
@jus10lewissr
@jus10lewissr 22 дні тому
I'm not sure how the "unforeseen tilt" wasn't easy to foresee. I'm no engineer and even I know better. Trying to save six million dollars turned out to cost them far more in the long run. I'm honestly surprised that Manhattan doesn't require such heavy highrise buildings to have piles driven all the way down to the bedrock. You'd think that would be something that was very strictly enforced, especially when you consider the soil most of those buildings sit on.
@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79
@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 Місяць тому
The thing that caught my eye was the tagging at the top of the building 9:01. I’m here in Chicago and sometimes you just catch tagging some where and wonder how in the hell did they get up there. Definitely looks like they must have repelled down this building at night and went back to skyscraper window cleaning the next morning.
@MrStevos
@MrStevos Місяць тому
Perhaps, also If you'll notice there is vertical structural truss work on either side (for elevators?) which can be hooked on to in various ways...
@bigradwolf5001
@bigradwolf5001 Місяць тому
That's awesome observation. We call it vandal here in NY.
@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79
@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 Місяць тому
@@bigradwolf5001 stop it! I’m sure some New Yorkers refer to it as tagging as well. That’s a pretty common term for it.
@williamhaynes7089
@williamhaynes7089 Місяць тому
Ha ha I saw the tagging/spray paint.. that would have took a few minutes to do
@charlescheng3480
@charlescheng3480 Місяць тому
There are exposed beams/rebar towards the top. I've actually hit this specific site before, its pretty sketch to get to the very top ledge where they are fastened into the concrete. I'm assuming they got up there and rappelled down, wicked stuff. And for those in the know, its called tagging in NYC.
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Місяць тому
Tony Soprano got involved with the construction I heard...
@jaymo2024
@jaymo2024 Місяць тому
First class lever solution is needed here. The center of mass is away from the center that is why it leaning to the north. They need to counterbalance the building since it's heavy on the north side
@noconsentgiven
@noconsentgiven Місяць тому
The bible verse about building your house on sand comes to mind. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.....the difference between wisdom and knowledge.
@majikglustik9704
@majikglustik9704 Місяць тому
I bet you CDI (Controlled Demolition Inc.) could fix it quick!
@tirpitz61
@tirpitz61 Місяць тому
Shanghai has a much much worse underground, but they make 400m-600m-high towers standing without any problems as they do not joke in terms of piling and shoot rather with cannons on sparrows than having problems later like here described
@vjreimedia
@vjreimedia Місяць тому
Corruption. So many regulations and all that, if you live in New York you know everything is regulated. No one ever would give a permit to build something like that without checking on the foundations. Is so obvious developers just gave a huge chunk of money to the city to get the permits.
@aximisu
@aximisu 25 днів тому
Good American engineers! Just words and show off. Like moon landing also.
@reho7387
@reho7387 25 днів тому
I'm guessing that the engineers will figure out a solution. The building in SF that is also sinking/leaning has proven to be a tremendous challenge. Hopefully the outcome in NY will be better.
@chadhemingway3335
@chadhemingway3335 3 дні тому
What a headache! The developer, contractor, architects, and engineers will be suing each other for decades.
@TommyShlong
@TommyShlong Місяць тому
The original WTC, the new WTC, the World Financial Center and every building in Battery Park City are built on landfill. None of them are leaning or sinking due to unstable soil. The developers for all of those buildings had the correct foundations engineered and built. The disaster at 161 Maiden is happening because the developers tried to build a foundation that was much less expensive and inferior.
@emjayay
@emjayay Місяць тому
Notice how the depth of the bedrock is reflected in the heights of the buildings in the graphic at 4:30. Tall at the southern tip of Manhattan, then much lower and then tall again you go north.
@timmannchicken
@timmannchicken Місяць тому
Not anchoring to bedrock? Where have I heard this before, oh that's right, One Seaport, say hi to your West coast equivalent, the Millennium Tower. Two peas in the same pod.
@beemerkon
@beemerkon Місяць тому
What's the point of having engineers when time and time again you see things as messed up as this
@tarkus4283
@tarkus4283 Місяць тому
I keep hearing 'unforeseen'. Building on a soft base and it shifts. Shocking
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