True

Not only Western but in many countries where people didn't even know what K-pop was before BTS. Idk why they are still in denial?

@@shinedreamsmile789 you should watch the video of ' boracity magazine' channel ,he explained every thing like why there's no next BTS and why k-pop industry don't acknowledge BTS etc

@@shinedreamsmile789 you should definitely watch those videos

@Toufik Hassan already a subscriber 🙂

I noticed a lot of 3rd gen performed like it was do or die but they always looked like they enjoyed being on the stage. They looked so loose and carefree even while delivering hard hitting choreo, if that makes sense

2nd gen idols used to roast and make fun of each other and enjoy their life And be happy with the members 3rd gen idols could do that too but not like 2nd gen idols But if any 4th gen idols do these then netizens will call them pick me or a bully

Hey! thank you so much for watching! Yes yes! i very much also think Twice blueprinted and eased the acceptance of a cute concept, could've add that to my video indeed haha

Hi, first of all thanks for watching and leaving a comment 😊, and if you did watch you must have seen that I said BTS is indeed the biggest name of non only the 3rd generation, but also in the world at this very right moment. Now like you said, if we're reading half of the definition of "pave the way", what is said is that it makes things easier, make things more achievable for people behind you. Which is what BTS did and is still doing, without a doubt, I would agree with you if it was that simple but it's not. Because in the complete definition we read right after what you said "create the circumstances to enable (something) to happen or be done." And you also said something very interesting yourself, because you said that BTS eased things for kpop groups to tour, sell records in other places in Korea ECT, but they aren't the first one to have done it, unlike what the definition says, which is to DISCOVER, CREATE so in fact DOING IT FIRST. Though nobody here, and certainly not me, is denying BTS's huge influence. I understand that for most armys BTS paved the way since they discovered kpop with them however unlike what you said, these aren't the facts. BTS didn't pave the way, maybe they smoothed it, or like you said eased it. Because paving the way requires to be the first one to do it.

@@multiomi well it's really a complicated thing...but i just wanted to highlight what army means when we say bts paved the way....we mean they made things easy,made kpop a global phenomenon,made kpop a trend outside kpop community...now even non kpop fans knows what is kpop irrespective of whether they listen or not.....we never want to discrete the hardwork of other artist ..... everything happens stepwise music or non music but there is always a certain someone who makes it trend and in case of kpop it's bts... anyway it's a discussion which will never end 😂... paved the way or not but they will be a historic act to remember forever 💜

@@multiomi but BTS indeed were the first to achieve multiple records as a kpop act. Who would have thought kpop would also be mainstream in the West the biggest music industry? It's all thanks to BTS . They even shocked the West by their increasing success ever since their first AMAs win, no one thought they would get it next year not even getting the best group and being a 5 time Grammy nominee. Even TIMES magazine ,Forbes, Billbord and Grammy said that they definilty are bigger than kpop as the paved the way to them. I'm not an army but it would be foolish to describe them and say that they didn't pave the way when they did exactly that . Psy had a bit song that's true bit he didn't pave the way for the kpop industry in any way as it didn't have an impact at all locals still use it to this day to mock and belittle kpop and it also didn't any further recognition as in it got no awards or nominee . Paving the way is not just about doing something first but also about leaving a good impact on the public and that's what BTS did. People who have no idea about kpop know about BTS which shows how impactfull they are.not to mention that even 2nd generation idols such as Sunmi stated that they paved the way. It's about what army think ,it's a FACT that the whole kpop community need to stop denying as it wouldn't change. I'm saying this with best of intentions as this argument is tiring and it shouldn't be an argument in the first place. There are also several economical articles that state that the WHOLE KPOP INDUSTRY BENEFITS FROM BTS . There is really no reason for denying this fact, it doesn't dwscrit any other idol or their hard work.

@@MM-by3vi hi! So: If you check Psy won an AMA award, an EMA award and a kid choice awards nomination, before BTS. So on being nominated or win an award on western award shows, BTS weren't the first ones. They indeed got nominated for the Grammys and the VMAs several times which is a HUGE and NON NEGLECTED fact on my side which is why I added them on my video and called them the biggest name of the third generation. Also another thing about the importance of being the first, it may not be something impactful but the question remains of: would BTS be having the impact they had if Psy, big bang, Sunmi or BoA didn't do these stuff before? The answer to that question is: we'll never know, that's why I consider that "BTS pave the way" not that simple. However I understand people considering BTS as the main pavers since they discovered kpop thanks to them but if we check the data in general, it's not really the case. Trust me, being an army myself, I wouldn't have a hard time or be mad at admitting BTS paved the way, but again it's not that simple.

@@multiomi whenever someone mentions how psy paved the way they only mention that he topped the charts no one ever talked about him winng so I had no idea and that's probably the reason why the western media thought that BTS would only win once and won't show up again. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I'm glad there is actually someone who is trully aware about this topic when discussing it. Keep up the good work.

I agree. I don't know why people deny this statement so much. It's pretty clear that BTS are the reason their faves promote in the American music industry 🤷

you put it very well

​@@y_na553Probably because a lot of armys, not all of them of course, use that phrase to look down on other groups and to downplay their own achievements and successes, so other fandoms may be sick of hearing it.

Hi! Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching ❤️ I didn't watch the video you just mentioned, maybe I should check it out since it's interesting to see other people's PoV And believe me being an army I wouldn't be mad at admitting that BTS paved the way but it's just not that simple for several reasons, I'm thinking about making it a video at this point because some people pointed out that one part of that video in the previous comments. All that aside, thanks again for watching ❤️

Tbh I don't like Boracity's videos. They're very well edited, but her content just comes across as putting down other groups and downplaying their own achievements and successes and looking down on the entire Kpop industry and genre as a whole to make BTS and armys look better in comparison and like all the other groups and fans are all the same when they're definitely not.

@@Kalakeiko im a multi myself, so any negativity towards other groups I don’t accept but that specific video uses direct quotes from artists to back up what she’s saying, which is why I linked it :)

Thank you so much ❤️

That is "No rules" by Baekho!

@@multiomi thank you! I really liked this part of the song sounds like a bop

Thank you so much ❤️ And yeaaaa, Sehun looks so ethereal right 😩😩

4th gen has some great groups.

its been 3 years.....

@@tadashi5731 what’s that supposed to mean?

@@supersaiyanmel8352 its been 3 years yet none of the 4th gen have had an impact like any of the 3rd gen.More 4th gen groups are yet to come so lets see

@@tadashi5731 it’s literally only been 3 years. Give them more time before everyone start saying “no one compares to the 3rd generation”. First, BTS shouldn’t count because BTS is bigger than k-pop. That leaves… who? EXO? Stray kids literally up there right now and I don’t even like Stray Kids but I respect that they’re really big now. Then we got TXT and like… come on. Give them a few more years. Magic was being played everyone not to long ago. Lastly we got my favorite group right, Enhypen! I swear just give these groups a few more years. Especially once BTS leaves the scene and the amount of people listening to K-pop start decreasing, then we can start comparing.

Hi, first of all thanks for leaving a comment and watching my video 😊 To answer you, you can disagree, but I think that 3rd gen idols even taking a break for they mental health is a progress itself, the 2nd gen was just better at hiding it, Korea isn't a place where mental health is taken seriously in the first place in today's day, so let alone BACK THEN. Proof is like I said in the video, many groups from the 2nd disbanded or idols just gave up on this industry and don't want to deal with it anymore for various reasons. We can sadly count the remaining groups that are still here with all the members if they haven't disbanded yet or if half of their members just gave up (tvxq, Suju, infinite, brown eyed girls, girls generation, SHINee, big bang, kara). I don't really want to address racism on kpop ever on my channel but but about the Racism/CA, these issue are older in kpop than the 3rd generation, if you're honest with yourself and you seem to know the 2nd gen very well, the scandal that occured for the 3rd gen just occured because like I said kpop got globalized, all this was normalized before. But you think the 3rd gen was the worst, that's your opinion, however that's just not what I think. That's seems subjective, but you can't possibly imagine that I said that the 3rd gen award shows were the best without knowing what was the 2nd gen was about first, and to me the 3rd gens were more memorable. Maybe it's not to you, and fair enough One more thing, is that it's interesting that you're saying that globalization is the only good point that I made and my answer to you is: if they got that much attention that the people didn't give the generations before it's for a reason. And that's what makes this generation the best, objectively, and non only to me but to millions of people who're not Korean. And the reasons in fact are the other reasons why no one compares to that generation, I listed them in the video you just saw so I won't repeat myself.

@@multiomi Who do you think started the Mental Health talk within Korea if not for BTS, look at their lyric's about their personal stories Suga will to talk about his fight with Depression, Social Anxiety, and OCD topic's that weren't talked about in Korean society let alone rapped about. BTS bringing the topic of Self love eg you can't love another if you can't learn to accept and love yourself first.

The rm accusations are so shallow. People pick on his long gone teen days which he has acknowledged numerous times. That man and them as a group has gotten respect from hiphop geeks for rewriting the history of ignorant folks who don't understand hiphop. That man has spend day and night reflecting on his past because he came from a place where no one was their to teach him how what he thought wasn't insultful could be insultfult. Don't even compare such self reflection to other kpop idols who can barely comprehend the meaning or purpose of hiphop. THIS IS IF YOU WANT PROOF: 1. In an interview Namjoon did Hiphopplaya and talks about some of his past issues with cultural appropriation. Q: You shouted “Westside Till I Die” during ‘If I Ruled The World’ [a song from 2014]. • Namjoon: That’s, well… I was really wrong then [laughter]. Q: What’s the specific reason why you feel you were wrong? • N: First off, I didn’t even live in the ‘west side’… And even if that song had a G-Funk sound, what I shouted wasn’t the way to respect West Coast hip-hop musicians. I believe there are many meanings inside the words “Westside Till I Die.” Sweat, struggles, pride, etc. It’s a phrase that represented all these factors of life. Q: Are you saying that you overlooked the weight and complex undertones that the phrase has within hip-hop? • N: That’s right. I believe it’s very different from words like “yo.” As a result, I was thoughtless. Q: Are you admitting it to be a mistake? • N: FURTHER THAN A MISTAKE, I WAS WRONG. I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY IN DEFENSE TO IT. 2. A famous Korean feminist, eAeon (who Namjoon is still friends with today; this was the first people heard of them interacting), tweeted shortly after the misogyny controversy/apologies: “Recently, Namjoon and I met privately and had a serious long talk about the issue of misogyny. Namjoon felt shame and guilt because of the controversy and revealed to me that he is distressed and unable to sleep due to it. So I said that misogyny is not a label or stigma that cannot be erased, but rather an obstacle in the right path that can exist within anyone. Rather than feeling like it’s unfair or painful, it’s a matter of deciding to fix it or not after discovering it within oneself. I talked about how I am also in the process of continuously fixing myself whenever I discover something I am lacking. Namjoon listened attentively and understood better than other people I have spoken to about similar topics.” 3. January 3, 2017 - Namjoon does a twenty-five minute live video where he apologizes for his racism and ignorance in that past and talks about how he’s been reflecting a lot in the past year and wants to start steadily bettering himself as a person from now on. Here’s one translated excerpt: “I’d never thought that my behaviors or words could hurt others. As I went through the year 2016, I started to think about that. My words or behaviors, regardless of my intentions, can cause trouble or hurt others feelings. I thought, I need to hold myself responsible for that and I need to think about such things. What I said and did can not be undone. I learned how to admit that to myself. It was hard to admit that I could hurt others’ feelings even if I don’t mean to. It took a long time. Now, when I start to do something, I think, ‘how would people feel about my actions?’ Now, as I said, I feel much better about my feelings and emotions. Now when I hear something about myself, even if it’s criticism or condemnation, I think, what caused them to say this about me? What did I do wrong? What did I do to cause others to feel uncomfortable? I need to know how to change my way of thinking if it’s wrong."