fascinating discussion. Thank you! we must get the bougie girls to wake up to biological reality. Hit em with the REALITY of biosphere collapse and climate crisis. A REAL calamity for them to focus their drama on. And start telling the bougie boyz, NO!

Not as smart as she thinks she is, smart though. For one, if you're going to talk about the archetype of the porn actress, name it as an archetype rather can casually speaking for millions of women. For two, how is the "coersion" for women in porn different than the coersion for men to do literally any job? These people are trying to throw out the baby with the bathwater as surely as the feminists. You fix coersion in pornography the same way you fix it with work in general - an economic floor for all citizens based on GDP that in America would look like 12k year ubi replacing welfare plus an available to all Easy Jobs program, 23k a year 32 hrs a week of self driven socially positive work (reading, writing, planting trees, learning math, etc) that is publicly reported and doubles as both accreditation builder and public resume.

Are you on Rumble?

Feminism is the creation of women and all the consenquences of it are to be blamed on women!

Harnesss Riscallous Because they are women and they allways play the victim!

I agree. It was also technology that encouraged women to work outside the home, the invention of the modern washing machine for example saved women from two days of solid work within the home, just to have clean clothes.

My mum worked in a factory in WW2, in munitions.

Lots of women worked during WW2 doing jobs which men had done before being conscripted. I've heard it argued that the baby boom was encouraged to free up jobs for returning soldiers.

My great grandfather didn't want his wife to work because he saw it as difficult and dangerous for her. His parents were slaves and I that was what made him to think that way. So he had his own business so he could allow my great grandmother to work from home.

Women also worked in factories in WW1. Even in the Middle Ages women took over whilst men risked their lives at war

Me too but I thought of Sowell’s question,” At what cost?”

Wish more people read and listened to him.

Brilliant man! cheers

I had the exact same thought!

Me too

Right. I think Selfishness it the pivotal issue. Too selfish to concern anyone else.. too narrow minded to look at any topic other than the way it impacts them at the moment. Finally the results of Feminism is coming back to bite Women.. and only now Women care??? Fun Fact: Women did this to themselves.. all while DESTROYING what took men 100s of years to build. Women are DESTRUCTIVE in their Selfishness. They deserve far, far, worse than they are getting! Feminism has killed, ABORTED, more people than Hitler did by a long long shot... Feminism has DESTROYED more families as well. Finally it is coming back to bite Women and only now Women are speaking out ?? SELFISHNESS to the extreme!!

Yup just great for women eh. So stupid.

Again, the road to hell is always paved with good intentions. This rings true for everything and everyone. Those who live more by empathy, and by proxy push their idea of empathy on others, over any form of selfishness create hell.

No. Wrong. Incorrect. Men withdraing from women is a means of Self-Protection. It sounds like she is projecting her own tactics onto others. So, lets do a quick analysis of Women's rights movement versus Men going their own way: the Women's Right movement exposed Women as being Narcissistic Beasts at a street level (attention seeking, gas-lighting, and bullying, as well as killing off their own babies for the sake of convenience.) As well as exposed Women as being seriously Machiavellian (dark triad) at a Political & Society level. NOW, compare Women's personality traits to that to the males in the Men' Rights movement where: Men are going their own way MGTOW, they are Going John Galt, are on a Marriage Strike, and many are not dating or interacting w Women at all -- these practices that men are using are called Avoidance or "Gray Rock tactics" , purely passive tactics, non-interactive tactics, that one is counseled to use when faced with Narcissistic people .. or to use when when interacting with any Dark Personality disorders -- Yes, I am saying that the majority of Narcissistic and Dark Personality people are Women .. and that Men are the opposite: Men are the kind and generous ones, who are withdrawing as a means of Protecting themselves from the EVILS of Dark personalities as well as the Legal system and Political system those BEASTS have twisted the once fine county into. Label me: John MGTOW Galt because Leftism, Marxism, Feminism, and the entire system doesnt deserve honorable men.

It’s up to a woman not to fight the man in the ring, but if she chose to fight him she better be ready for what’s coming. No one is forcing anyone to participate in something they aren’t comfortable, the majority are doing things because of money and prestige.

The authority of a man, the advantages of a woman and the accountability of a child

how come it appears that way to you, do you have an example?

Just like kids then, especially a teenage girl

Yeah, it's always been so since Seneca Falls

She concedes that feminists need to rethink what marriage means. But why, you secured everything that you wanted - don't you like it? Having won the game you know want to change the rules, is it because you don't like how it's turned out!! Unfortunately men are walking away from the current state of marriage. So either the original feminist concept can be seen to be incorrect or they've overplayed their hand as it is men that are walking away from / not seeking relationships. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, it can't have been envisioned that men would walk away, it was assumed that men would remain unchanged while the feminists rolled their dice. Unfortunately it's going to take an equal force, equivalent to feminism for men to come back to the table and reconsider what's in it for them. You reap what you sow, it's just surprising that men are so thick that its taken them 60-odd years to waken up to how skewed marriage is against them. They've finally realised that the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

I am not from the US but I live in the south of Europe. Back in the WW2 years when my grandma was a kid, she was in a family consisting of sisters. Everyone was expected to do everything to help family survive. There was no luxury for having distinct roles for males being out in the fields and females at home. In all eras, the key word is 'survival' not 'this is my role and I only have to do that'.

But that's logical, post modern post industrial isn't logical. It doesn't have to be

Now days people have 2 kids and a home full of appliances. These days stay at home moms aren't spending their days mothering once the kids are grown, they maybe mother for 20 years, with a life expectancy of 80, that's a nice easy ride. Which is exactly what many people think. They don't want to be looked down upon, I understand why, but if all you do once the kids leave is cook for one man, it doesn't leave much for others to look up to.

Like the opening song in Fiddler on the roof, Tradition, "everyone knows who he is, and what God expects him to do."

Yeah, it was called teamwork. Which is what families, marriages, local communities, and so on, used to be based on. Enter the century of self, the narcissistic age, and we see the breakdown of all of those, along with common purpose and meaning.

I agree, they probably don't agree with her too much, but they are still interested...was thinking that too at least. Definitely a pretty interesting point of view for sure.

It’s literally just the bare minimum lol. We’re such a disrespectful culture that even the bare minimum is seen as above and beyond. Sad.

@@christopherpierce4344 I also get the sense that she is holding back quite a bit.

I think they were stunned by what she was saying , even uncomfortable ,

​​@@lorrainericardo8680 well let's just appreciate that Konstantin didn't try to scold her for being too direct and tell her to be nice like he always does with Posie Parker when she says things he doesn't have the balls to say

MSM = brainwashing poison. In case the covid debacle didn’t convince us already. This is not a democracy.

I agree there's a a lot of nonsense in the public discussions on gender issues these days. But I am stopping when the opening remark is so idiotically bad. She said in respect of birth control _"so the contraceptive pill is the first transhumanist technology it's the first major widespread, um, social you know biomedical Intervention which aims not at fixing something which has gone wrong with normal Health but upgrading normal."_ Sorry but that is utter BULLSHlT. People have been practising various forms of birth control going all the way back to Ancient Egypt. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control

@@tonywilson4713 Please review the words 'major' and 'widespread' in your dictionary and try to re-read that sentence, maybe it will make more sense then.

​@@tonywilson4713 I think you missed the point. Of course there have always been various forms of birth control - mostly inconvenient at best and downright dangerous at worst. She is referring to an almost universally accessible method that could be relied upon to a degree never before even dreamed of. Even a little over 50 years ago, as I approached adulthood, my mother's words to me - basically warning me off sex before marriage - were that "hot water and whisky didn't work" as they hadn't worked when she was pregnant with me! So much for the ancient methods!

@@diatonicdelirium1743 Please don't be yet another pompous clown. Its quite simply a bullshit claim that's more hyperbole than fact. And to be sure I don't give a damn which side of the woke argument she's on. I am tired of the bad faith *FROM BOTH SIDES* of the woke discussion.

You got lucky!

What I found interesting of her argument was that the division between the home labor and professional labor is a relatively recent one (a result of the industrialization and modernization) and to me it seems the societies hasn't yet sorted it out and came back to equilibrium. Because in the past being a homemaker wasn't just about doing a nice cozy home, apart from the rich bourgeois families who could afford it. Poor women always had to work hard. But with the industrialization and professionalization of work market, they suddenly had this division between the home presence with children and the need to work which would be outside home. And many lower class women today still have to work, typically low tier jobs, outside home. Being able to stay home andbe a homemaker is obviously also hard work (eg raising kids but even just regular work around the house) but at the same time it's also a privilege and a sign of social status.

They worked hard for no pay and no freedom..

Dad's can be great homemakers as well.

​@@NightinGal89 How much freedom does an impoverished single mother have? We all choose the chains we wear.

And importance of washing the eyes with generous amount of holy water whenever we accidentally see something naughty.

sins? What are sins? Does law, science or common sense define some sin?...

Explain sin. What sins? You are talking like a Roman pope.

As a man of about 30, it gives me hope to know there are women who are questioning the tides of this rip in our society (pun intended, this woke progress is stupid and a rip tide to perdition.)

For those who are asking.... "You are not punished for your sins, you're punished by your sins...."

I love speaking to stay-at-home mums!!! I love hearing about people's families !

I mean I still probably wouldn't have anything to talk to you about at a party. But hearing that, it would definitely raise my eyebrow and then raise my respect for you as well.

people can be SO rude. I have had people laugh in my face and say "but what on earth do you do all day?" when I said I was a full time mother, wife and homemaker.

@Celeste-dp5ur well I am childless and when someone says they are a stay at home mum., I'm Hats off to you! Most important job in the world and you have to e so selfless!

@@chi9153 nice of you. Thanks!

I also learned to bake bread and make pasta....now when we grocery shop all I buy is ingredients...I buy nothing prepared. Nothing processed. All at once, there can appear to be nothing to eat, while in reality, i can make anything my family might want. I haven't yet, but I've been looking at recipes for cheese its. My goal is to not need to buy anything but the ingredients I can't grow and preserve myself. I take being a housewife very seriously. And I prefer housewife to stay at home mom because my work is not just for my child. I work to care for my husband every bit as much, and he works his ass off for us😍

@@jacquelinealthoff5842 I applaud you! I'm a man and I love cooking and I've learned to make my own pasta, bread, etc., and now I'm especially glad I did, because my wife is severely handicapped, so I'm the one who cooks and does all the domestic jobs. Fortunately, I work as a translator, so I can work from home in front of a computer, which also is vital for our marriage, as my wife can't live by herself (she can't even roll her chair) and needs help with everything from toilet to adjusting her position in bed to sleep. And yet, she's my best friend, I'm crazy proud of her, as she's extremely intelligent and overall a wonderful person I admire deeply and feel very privileged to be married to.

@@jacquelinealthoff5842 Outstanding. To all those angry, bitter women offering nothing to modern relationships and demanding to know, "where all the good men" have gone.... they've married women like Jacqueline. And I'll add, before any feminists go off about how this woman is victimized and oppressed, you can clearly see she's happy and fulfilled with being a good wife and mother who does her part to care for her family, and I'd bet a handsome wager her husband not only works his ass for them, but probably treats her with the utmost respect.

Agree that maintaining a home and family is work! Thank you for sharing your life and skills with us.

If you don’t feel comfortable sharing I totally understand but I want this so bad. How does your husband support your family? Does he work 2 jobs? Do you live in an apartment? My (soon to be husband) and I live together, he makes we both make about 23/hr, are extremely frugal and still could not afford a child, especially not on a single income

Many things that are taboo about what this woman terms “feminism of care,” particularly within conservatism: 1. It is the hardest work you will ever do, physically and psychologically. I could tell you straight off this woman is not a mother. Just as out of touch as any other academic. 2. The suffragettes were pro-life Republicans. Eventually, they were shafted for the black male vote. This is sad, as these women were all abolitionist Christians as well.

@@suigeneris2663 She has a daughter.

@@marty9011 I stand corrected then. She is an academic, tho?

Community and support is found at a church. I recommend it, it’s wonderful in more ways than one!

@@kristinrichmond8185 Absolutely agree !

I’ve been single 20 years but my ex was alcoholic it was terrible , he was crazy

I agree. My dad was an alcoholic. He was a total drain on the family for many years, I used to beg my mom to leave him. She stuck through and he is now about five years sober and I feel like I have a dad for the first time in my life. He’s taught me the meaning of forgiveness and redemption.

@@TheAmericanFrugalHousewife wow!!!! I hope my kids get to experience that with their dad.

That’s not true 50% divorces is because of abuse, and abuse manifests itself in many forms emotional psychological, financial etc Not only physical, and any of those forms can escalate to physical violence and murder any time. So people don’t just divorce out of the blue, there are always very good reason why they shouldn’t continue and why it’s the best for everyone. Many women live in abusive marriages and unable to leave because they depend on a man financially. They have been cheated on repeatedly, beaten, disrespected and still continue because they are trapped.

@@TheAmericanFrugalHousewifeh good grief, not every alcoholic sobers up, many die alcoholics. This is like committing yourself to many years in prison, never.

The same women participating in hook up culture are the same ones saying how bad men are, and they can't find anyone. They are distracted. You are doing great.

Interesting story, while I agree with you that this new culture is toxic to women, I also have a hard time not supporting birth control because so many future children were saved from unfit parents and a poor, traumatized upbringing. That's one aspect I wish was more talked about, the kids and the reality of unfit parents.

Weird how hookup culture I'd never toxic to men, only women. 🙄

​@@sophieruby5893no its toxic to men too, what planet are you on. Open your eyes

@@jimijamesatlantian4423 My point is that it is only ever pointed out as being toxic to women. If it's bad for women, it's also bad for men.

Stay home. Cook and clean. Unplug your brain. Teach your daughters to do the same. Saves a lotta $$$ on education costs, doesn't it? What do girls need to do anything more than have babies anyway? And they wonder why these kids are having their breasts cut off.

isn't everything women do underrated and underappreciated ?

@Matt ???????

And underpaid, lol

More power to them ❤ But perhaps we should enable stay at home mothers with universal basic income? Why should we not support women to be good mothers if they choose to do so? ❤

They are right to tell you to stop being sensitive. It's an assumption because most people go out to work. That said, there is nothing wrong with staying at home. But the assumption that you wouldn't is simply a function of the work based society we live in. It's not something to get worked up over.

@@diranshouse7061 Invalidating response as usual. Men are scum.

That's how I feel when people ask me when I'm going to have kids. At 43 I still dont want any

Sis, just answer them with this back question: "When do you go back to slavery". Money is a trade for your time. No time of your life can truly be paid with money. So make enough for the family but try to rely more on yourself. Don't trust society. Blessed be all the families who still use their time for their children and the home. ❤

Try being a minimalist man. People treat me with much disrespect, if not more than a woman. Why would I hold a career when I can simply have no costly desires? I would rather not contribute to societal problems than make enough money to fulfill the desires that create those problems. People complain their taxes go to funding wars, why do they not respect the idea then of not contributing any taxes at all?

You picked the wrong man

Yes but it's the point. Right? That right man can be a shit man at some point in time? And you'll be completely dependent on him

💯% agree! S/he who has money has control. Money = power = control Absolute power (i.e. control/money) corrupts (eventually) Any other argument is pure delusion!

Absolutely Chan T. I'm a woman doing a traditionally 'male' job. I've been fortunate to be able to make myself financially independent, own my home, cars, self-employed. I've done this as a reaction to three relationships gone wrong with men who presented as 'good guys' initially but became controlling, didn't like me earning more than them and not dependent on them. As a result I am resolutely single and without children but I don't see any alternative for the sake of my sanity and physical well-being.

By the very nature of having children it makes a women dependent - that is why choosing who you have kids with is such a big decision. I have an absolutely lovely husband but I still have my own bank account

Healthier for your body too.

@@kc6810 yes but I don't use a calendar method.i use Creighton model. I'm currently breastfeeding and my cycle is all over the place. Plus I have PCOS.

The ability to tell him no? You always have the ability to tell him no unless you are in an abusive relationship.

@@katiez688 You can tell him no and same like he can tell no to you as a husband and go and find alternative for him. The sexbots are coming most men will choose those sexbots and replace women with sexbots.

You seem to have a very limited notion of the potential range of sexual activities which can satisfy both partners

My siblings and I are a bit younger, but my sister did the same thing. Got married and had her first child at 20, second at 23. 23 years later, my nieces are WONDERFUL young women, my sister and brother in law have a great marriage, and she's working full time. The idea that women should avoid marriage and a family in favor of a career first is a sickening lie.

The key word in your reponse is "sacrifice." That is what love entails. Love is "wanting the good of the other" more than your own. This holds families and mariages fast!

Awesome! 🙏!

@@lisalapoint7022 AMEN! I pray for a widespread revival of this wisdom. I actually do believe we’re in the infancy of one already.

@@Rogueagent21 facts!

Super-articulate in a broad ranging, down to earth, sexually literate way - what a precious resource in our atomised ‘post-truth’ unconsciously cyborg era.

Yeah,loving and as the other commenter said she is very articulate. I'm not so I always admire that ability to convey something so clearly.

Yeah I totally agree as well

@UpperclassHomosexual Wow! That's quite wild that you did that so you could get guys. I must be low Machiavellian theb because I could never do that.

"Cyborg feminism" is genius.

Yes, I never considered that point. Very thought provoking interview.

Vegan Bacon with Hot Sauce is forever burned into my brain. BDSM = VBHS

How to say this, hasn’t there always been a certain amount women throughout history who were willing to do some questionable sexual things ? The oldest job in the world and all that, although maybe it just massively increased those type of behaviours ?

​@@adsldaveProstitution is not the oldest job; it's the oldest form of sllavery. With that in mind, ask yourself if this ancient woman was actually willing.

The problem is BDSM didnt start with the pill; it has existed for thousands of years

I'm a little younger, and I rejected the feminism of the 1970s as a child. I honestly could not see anything in it that was positive for women.

0:57:45 but isn't this the goal of the Marxists? They don't want women - or men - working in free market, volunteer capacities. They won't everything managed by the state. Look at how the British developed private charity in 18th & 19th centuries. Now you pay 50%+ in taxes. They nationalised moral behaviour.

I was born in the 80's and am a male, but in my life time life has never gotten easier or better. Smart phones and internet are a mask that life is easier, but these only very narrow aspects of life. The fundamental parts of life that are absolutely necessary, earning money, food, love and companionship, exploring interests and hobbies, none of these have gotten easier, all are tougher. I imagine been born in the early 60's you would of seen this occur far more than I have. It may not necessarily be you, I hope life has gotten easier for you, but if this is the case, look at the friends around you and how they are fairing in these aspects of life.

Karen Grignon, are you a feminist? And if you are, can you please tell me one thing in the western world that a man can do but a woman can't?

@@kingcosworth2643 do you watch many coming-of-age from the 80s & 90s? Just looks so liberating. I know they (we) had problems too, but so much fewer self induced problems vs today...

Many have considered, but too afraid of getting cancelled to say anything.

@@user-pc8ee8sx7v You give people more credit than I do.

@@glenncox9128 or I have smart friends.

There you go!SHE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT MEN!

One born every minute.

Bravo, sir. You sound like my life partner man (husband not on paper). Many people's partnerships are not so appreciative of each other. It works well for us. We're proud of our little family 💕

I loved your comments. But when I was home, I felt I was living “real” life, and I felt sorry for my husband who spent his days in the workplace, where behavior, emotions, etc. must be tailored to keeping a job/getting a better job. I used to say that I spent my days with people who loved me more than anything else in the world (the same for me), not to mention that I had pretty much complete control over how I spent my time. My husband, on the other hand, had to adapt himself to the standards of his workplace, right down to how he dressed. This is why people heave a sigh of relief when they step into their homes at the end of a workday ~ this is where they can be themselves, where real life lives. Frankly, I think hardworking, faithful, responsible husbands are the unsung heroes of at-home motherhood. My only regret is that I didn’t appreciate my husband more all those years ago ~ although I have told him many times since. All the best to you!

I was thinking the same thing. Also „Make sex dangerous again“ and „stick through unhappy marriages unless they are outright abusive“ are „solutions“ that truly are against progress. Not as in they prevent further progress but they undo what has been done and thus take back the literally sovereignty we have as women today. I was truly hoping that when she said „(all the good things we have today for women) comes at a cost“, she would offer us ways we could adress the rising issues around our failure to adapt to changing relationships dynamics. Not ways to go back in time and trade off for the issues of the past instead. And I am saying that as someone who chose to be a homemaker. It was my decision and I love that it was. I grew up in Middle East where it was forced onto me by culture and circumstances and there I completely rejected it because that’s terrifying. When I managed to get out and it became a choice of mine, I could truly chose to do it because I love it and I care. One can’t bind someone by their circumstances to be a good wife and a mother without their choice unless a level of mental torture forces them submission to such fate. If I didn’t have access to the fertile management and divorce normalization that make me feel safe in the role of a wife, it would have been my lifelong sentence. I find it hypocritical a bit that she talks about how elite women fail to see men who could be dangerous in reference to the trans movement. I think she fails to see what these men would be like in a society where we stick together for the kids through unhappy marriages, have a culture against contraceptives/abortion and hope for men to fraternize into educating each other into „gentleman“. As someone who has seen marriage oriented cultures and upbringing as well as the open sex grounds of Berlin, I will choose sovereignty and responsibility over ensuring my safety any day over „make sex dangerous again“ and marriage oriented solutions to my safety

Me too.

@@longjohnthilver Grow up.

@@longjohnthilver Go back to the pub, have another pint and take your misogyny with you.

@@longjohnthilver Bye. Have a good life.

@Long John Thilver woman thought they had it bad so society changed and now their more miserable 😂

CORRECTION: WESTERN WOMEN.

Mary is astute indeed and more the pragmatic egalitarian rational feminist, rather than the unreasonable militant marxist feminazi that the upperclass society an media like to radicalize young impressionable college women with. 👍

@@Matt-zp1jn Unfortunately those words mean nothing to the rest of the world. China is definitely going to win over more Conservative countries like Saudi Arabia, Africa, Iran, and India and Capitalism is not gonna matter anymore.

I felt that she hasn't really broken any new ground. Most of what Mary Harrington says I could easily say was evident to myself 10 years ago - and is a common observation among most men I talk to. It was however refreshing to hear a woman saying it.

She's intelligent when it comes to keeping all societal focus on spurious and cyclical female issues so she can get everyone to pretend that men and boys don't have a serious lack of fundamental human rights.

I dont think I agree with her statements ….

@@meancookie89 I don’t either.

@@meancookie89 Don't agree or not but it's true, it started with women forcing men's spaces to become coed by lawsuits and legal obligation if needed. There are almost no men only places left, they aren't allowed to survive because someone will sue about it being discriminatory to women while that same person also asks for more women only spaces.

It's true. But not only is it the root of the invasion of women's spaces it also destroyed spaces for boys to interact with other boys and learn to be men. Hence the feminisation of boys. Example being the boy scouts.

@@CazRaX This whole ish started when WW wanted inheritance laws and their own finances Then representation n the right to vote Then wanting to break the glass ceiling She omits a lot….

Mary Harrington is absolutely brilliant! I remember men asking me what "I did for a living" and moving away with contempt on their faces when I said I was a full time mother.

​@louiseparker1915 that's really a shame. I don't want to be part of a society where men act that way. It's funny how they want something to do with you when you're pretty, young, or anything they idealize you to be-- then the minute you defy their preconceived notions, they can't process it in their brains and feel the need to insult us.

@@brianna094 Men and women are natural complements and whether they know it or not men are naturally attracted to, drawn to women who are likely to be , literally good mates. And as they mature they develop the natural perspectives of fathers in suppport of their loved ones. Women are so gobsmackingly wonderful. God given wonders. I salute you all.

Hate to break it to you but usually women in their 20’s would just tell people like this they are just old and to get with the modern times. Then continue to jill off with other feminist.

@@Yeetus223 Nothing as stubborn and fool hardy as someone 16 to 25 years old. The only hope is that people don't screw up too badly during this period.

Please take this right way. You felt something was wrong because you were a feminist and may still be. You even said so based off your comment. See, if you wanted to be part of the solution you would have married at 18 and took care of your husband. Instead you likely had a 304 phase and ruined your ability to pairbond. See the beta males and feminist in power knew what they were doing when they willingly shadowed you wahmenfrom all accountability and responsibility. Likely broke many men's heart(your ego and pride is gonna make you tell yourself that's a good thing) and only perpetrated more misery and suffering amongst others as well. I tell you all this in that if you take it correctly you will devote your life into teaching wahmen not to ruin themselves and men. Now that you are a mother it's likely you know that their not much more to life than what most 18-30 wahmen tell themselves that there is. God bless you and your new child☦️

I so agree

Took u a while to actually find a man and have a baby it seems

And that's great, but what about women who don't want what you want. Are you not happy that they have a choice?

But it’s ok for men to suffer under capitalism?

As she stated, those elites have NO clue about the real world since they're not exposed to it. It's not in their interests to see the huge differences between the sexes. I feel their opinion should carry no weight since it doesn't represent anyone outside that small fraction of other elites.

@@stephenthomas1492 yes

I agree, and I saw this split in 1970s between elevating the position of women in the home, to only valuing women in careers.

Lockdown policies and net zero policies are very class based too I think, as is the way they are promoted and supported in media.

Absolutely

Tell that to men

@@Meandyouisnus She did say "we".

@@Meandyouisnus This is all about women being victims of their own choices. Stop blaming men.

@@Meandyouisnus Okay,... tell it to women. When you're transparently angry and blaming the issue on men, you're doing nothing to help solve the problem. There's no shortage of single, bitter, middle aged women who spent their entire youth sampling penises. If you pretend otherwise, you're lying to yourself.

​@@Meandyouisnus Its funny my fellow men are stupid, women get mad at men for being stupid, get a pill giving them the opportunity to be stupid instantly celebrates women making the same stupid mistakes they wanted men to stop making... 🤣😂🤣 See why men and women who can actually act civilised and think critically wonder why that happened? Instead of damage control women agreed to make the issue twice as bad now both halves of the population partakes in it and celebrates it?..

Sounds like a healthy community.

@@gumdeoprobably full of sex abuse like most religious communities

I've been married for almost 20 yrs now and that's 100% right. I don't buy her flowers every week but when I do it's special. It's the stuff at 2am when ya have to go out for something when she's preggers and you just go. She was happy I had a guys gaming night and ordered us pizza. No guilt trips or silly childish twitterpation.

I also second your description.

If they have children, they should think of them first of all

It's unreal, how everyone just bought this bs with romance! Marriage is an economical solution of compiling resourses of individuals and maybe extended family to provide safety nets for each member and procreate and prosper! You gotta be bonkers to never think of this. Even secular Jews still think in terms of netting family a benefit from marriage, not butterflies in stomach.

You know there are men who buy flowers on valentine's day and buy medicine at 2 am for their food poisoned partner. But women have been convinced that they should take the minimum possible. Like it's not possible that he takes care of you when you're sick and buy you a gift on special days, choose one!! They do it when they have a good foundation and have been raised well (which rarely happens) and when they're in love.

Congratulations 🤗

Great job! I'm single Mum & into 2nd yr homeschooling my 9yr & next year my 11yr old. All the best on each chapter if your family 😊

Not as a prostitute, I take? 😀 Congratz & good luck!

Same here! Home-school and all the rest. I make ferments but am about to start selling fiber arts and other crafts at the fairs this summer. The foods I make are for barter only, since I can't sell food without a loicense- LOL. Even though my Amish neighbors sell food freely. Also.... am I the ony one that thinks it's weird that we're called "stay at home moms" now? I call myself a housewife.

I ink we underestimate the power of generational wisdom.

People behaving like lemmings.

They had the choice right? Do you mean: "if they could do it again?". Or am i missing the point?

​@@p382742937423y4 Is it really a choice if you're not given all the necessary information to make an informed decision? I think for a lot of women what happens is they get to a certain age and the doctor says "take the pill, it'll be better/safer" and you have no reason to think much about it because you don't know anything about secondary effects, you're typically in your late teens so you lack the life experience to say "hang on a minute, I want to know all the details before I agree to that" and it’s your doctor, someone you're supposed to trust with your health. So yes, it is a choice, but it's not an informed one and it should be.

I think she means, "if they had had the knowledge to make an informed decision"

Please explain how contraception causes infertility. There is no evidence of this. The vast majority of women who come off the pill conceive within 6 months. Unless you’ve left it until the 40s

It isn't easy to make friends, but I say you can go out and find new friends. Sports and hobby are always a good route. There are odd clubs for hobbies, my friends husband goes to a Scalextric club every week as an example. As a child of unhappily married parents, don't beat yourself up. I grew up in an atmosphere of hidden resentment. Both my parents were good people, but they should have split up and been happier.

I’m sorry to hear about that brother. May I suggest finding a good church. I live out of country, and I’ve never had such a close, caring group of men than at my church. It also helps my two boys make good friends beyond the kids at school (which can often be a mixed bag). In any case, here’s wishing you and your girl well.

​@@Perichoresis777 or an activity group.. Any team sports!!! This way you can meet more people who are from different religions and backgrounds who then can share interesting stories about their lives.

Sometimes when you are in your feelings and listen to social media and entitled people. Some might think that's applied to every household. But critical question was this ask without any merit?

The further society goes away from Christian values the further we will fall. God designed men and woman to have separate jobs

CHILDREN are the ones paying. Women get all these choices & independence. It's children who are paying the price.

It's very interesting seeing the results of 100 years of "progress". It's humanity's trail of tears to extinction.

@@Sngbrd1001 "I don't need anybody. I'm just gonna do ME." "😰😰😰Why am I so lonely?😭😭😭"

@@matthewatwood8641 Right, men have no choice or responsibility at all, all on women.

The Liberal Left experiment has been very dissapointing.

Did you ever give her a holiday? Or was she on call 24/7 365

Funny, men have been saying this since the late 1990s....ever heard of Warren Farrell or Rollo Tomassi ? ...but then again, you ladies keep cancelling us because of mansplaining. Bravo... your ignorance is now transparent to us all.

I agree

Feminist tell women that men are terrible no good useless violent thugs. While in the same breath tell women they need to be second rate men.

@@Yeetus223 Great point ! ...its the propaganda at work...whamen most affected !...lol

I could poke holes in her logic all day...for example the connection she makes between the pill and the trans ideology is just ridiculous.

Almost water tight. After accurately diagnosing modern social ills she let's feminism largely off the hook for the problems it has caused by appealing to "complex systems". Which isn't factually incorrect in a broad sense, but someone like Christina Hoff Summers would point to education as a major source of the problems of men and that is largely the fault of feminism. Maybe she's just being diplomatic, but she's pulling punches.

@@aaronvt9980 100% - she’s being somewhat coy here. I feel she’s fully aware of the sheer devastation inflicted on masculinity over the last few decades but that she also enjoys some aspects of it. I reckon this conversation could have also gone other places if she could be truly consistent logically. Good spot

Yes she lets the femanazis off the hook. Women created this fuckery by using the cops against their husbands then shaming us men into submission. men don't marry or have kids. Don't give them this power over you. Mgtow

@@bradleyjackson7168 while I agree that men have been shamed for being men for many decades, I made the choice the be married and have a child. I’m no longer ashamed of being male and my wife isn’t ashamed of being a stay at home mother. We do what we think is best for our daughter.

Yes same! Everything I've observed and experienced as a mother and wife and homemaker, she very eloquently described and I'm left feeling very grateful for my life and for what I know to be normal.

Yeah. Messing with hormones is stupid. You need maybe 3 Brain cells not to fall pregnant😂

The population collapse is coming. So damn hard, it ain't funny. Nothing can be done. You ladys😁

Just say you are lazy and don’t want to work

This is stupid, since when did women have power to shut down boys clubs. Very silly woman

Older "conservatives" are not old people "clinging to old, traditional values." They people, like you, who have been exposed to life and learned its lessons, and now simply see the value that those who came before them saw.

She doesn't call out where this comes from. Margaret Sanger, a Eugenicist created abortion and God basically punished the West for defying him

Gotta put the kids first.

The irony. A white female Eugenicist named Margaret sanger created abortion to eliminate black children only for the most users to be Western white women. It's almost like God was punishing you for defying him

But you didn't replace yourself. Replacement only happens with three kids per woman.

My wife and I both felt the same; I didn't want her to modify and chemically negate her normal biological functions; it just seemed unnecessarily dangerous and ignorant; when safe and responsible natural means, that has been practiced since the dawn of time; was much safer for her "Reproductive Health"; ... we too; used the 'Rhythm Method', combined with the withdrawal method, and We too; had two planned children; We are both just starting our 70's; life has been good! Take Care!

She actually did replace herself and her husband. Two kids from two people, a simple replacement. A third kid and other additional kids would be adding to the population.@@somercet1

No. She, like all chicks, always slant everytong to paint themselves as victims. And they think guys serving them and slaving away is fair. Go away, chick.

​@@kaczan3 you obviously didn't kisten to the interview.

Thank-you you so much for sharing all of this with everyone.... 🕊️ & 💕 I do hear you.. Millions hear you.. I wish I made policy.. Men only can make war it seems is what I'm getting back from the screaming media.... Raaaahhh USA . . . Okay AND now ........ Ok, so any child that was just born...... Is being fattened up by his own parents to be sent OFF to fight in some far OFF war some distant president of USA is prepping to invade in 2043...... Ya, I'd Stop having kids too..... If they haven't already killed your eggs and sperm already anyhow so it was already a mute choice out of your hands already.....

If it was hormonal birth control, it would most likely have resulted in a drop in testosterone, which can affect libido and mental clarity (although it does vary in women). Estrogen is actually converted from testosterone, so it's unclear if those effects would have been a direct result of testosterone dropping, or a result of lower testosterone resulting in lower estrogen levels, but lowered testosterone is going to have some kind of effect on a woman.

Thank you for being a SAHM. I'm unable to but I have huge respect for you and your children will benefit.

Eat healthy natural foods. Stop taking that garbage.eat fruits meat and exercise.

I don't think that recognizing norms necessarily means rejecting those who don't easily take them on. It's fine to leave the 99 to find the one lost sheep, unless the 99 get eaten by wolves while you are not doing the boring work of taking care of the average individual. Or perhaps better put: the 'diverse' are interesting and valuable, and the mavericks are fine, but they should not be given unfettered control of the whole enterprise.

Have you considered that your family was just low on the happiness scale? Sadly, the family was so bad at being inspired and excited that it died out as per Darwinian theory. Being poor sucks, but we have to acknowledge that no amount of equity, equality or wealth will resolve the fundamental humanity of us all. Some of us are less suited to society than others. 🤷‍♂️

The pill made me totally uninterested in sex and with a constant headache. The answer was an IUD. It was fabulous.

By design of our wannabe feudal overlords

I'm 73

Marriage is for everyone. Its about letting go of ur personal desires and commitment. What ur trying to say is that some people cant commit to someone else because he or she is too selfish to commit to them.

Yeah I wonder how much hot spice she had to use for her lesbian adventures she mentioned, because you will be hard pressed to find more of a vegan option than that if the danger of pregnancy is the bacon. Besides the fact that I don't remember ever hearing more distasteful idea than that we would be chasing the danger of pregnancy... what a colossally tone deaf idea. She reminds me one of those chat bots that sounds so intelligent until they occasionally slip up and say things like 2+2=5. Overall what a buffoon she comes across as, I wouldn't be surprised if she had autism of some sort..

I am not very aware, but isn't it supposed to be very extreme? 🤨

@@thetechnocrat4979 Bacon? Yes. Extreme deliciousness. Damn...

Vegan bacon, tasteless cardboard, not a very good comparison

That's not what she said. She said it's the hot sauce.

I'm a straight woman. And I agree with you 💯%.

Lesbian woman here. I supported feminism when it was about CHOICE. More choice between opportunities. That means that if women wanted to work and not raise families, they could - but so can men. That means that if men want to stay home and raise the kids, they can. That means if people don't want to get married, they can. If men want to fight for sole custody, they are ACTUALLY considered fairly in the rule of law and can actually get full custody. If women want to die in war, they can. I'm for freedom being an equalizer of the sexes. But yes, it brought the sexes so close to the point that now trans people think they can just BE the opposite sex.

@@lalexander1144 So refreshing to see someone's own reasoned thoughts rather than political dogma. Thank you.

Feminism is ever evolving, they get ton of funding from the government so to keep the cash flowing they have to keep the lie of female oppression going

The fact that human beings have survived for hundreds of thousands of years without any medical interventions at all should be good enough proof that something like the birth control pill isn't going to make much of a dent either way, but leave it to conservatives and trads to think that humanity is undone by something that has barely existed for half a century.

Feminists don't think critically

We get duped by false narratives generated by the elites - that it’s about ‘progress’ (profit) ‘education’ (organised childcare for the workers of the industrial revolution) ‘lifting people out of poverty’ (smashing community, resilience, sovereignty and agency) … The doublespeak predates Orwell’s 1984 - he just crystallised what he could see already happening . Huxley too…

Found the distinction between the feminism of freedom and the feminism of care a really useful one. We are now living in the aftermath of the feminism of freedom winning out over the feminism of care 💔💔💔💔💔… how sad for men that the caring feminine has been subsumed by the ‘freedom - loving ‘ feminine - observe how she veers now towards a parody of herself and her original intention- a chimera, a hamster on a wheel, a blow-up doll without roots or vision. What a timely conversation. Mary Harrington - you are causing seismic shifts in the gender conversation … 🙏🏼

@@elephantintheroom-francois494 My thoughts exactly.

Good for you. Some people are not comfortable giving their partners financial power over them. But everybody is different. For example, people would think it's important to maintain individuality and not confused motherhood with one's identity because it's a hat. And it's not unusual for women to be lost after a while. And work as an interest reflects and helps with individuation. But also because humans aren't perfect, extra income can be helpful in case of an emergency or life threatening situation. Furthermore, everybody knows the situation of the average married woman , she's the exhausted, ignored, underappreciated single married woman but nevertheless who likes to care what everybody thinks about her, so she puts up a fulfilled appearance on the outside. And with all the horror divorce stories of formerly kept women who warn against that because of financial abuse and control, eventhough there are exceptions and not all marriage stories are or end the same. People who look at generalities may easily roll their eyes at this idea of marriage as women empowerment. But I think there's a need to respect everybody's choice. The problem with feminism is they think they should rush in to save every woman, instead of just being open to those who allign with their ideas and letting be those who don't. For example, there are women out there who hop from one abuse relationship to another. But just because they do it doesn't mean feminism should feel obligated to stop them or feel upset if they go back to their abusive partners or even cover for their abusive partners. Different women have different purposes in life and people's choices have to be respected. We are all adults.

I would listen to a stay at home mother and wife over a fake social climber . Stay awesome 😎 your kids will thank you for it .

It's a shame that SAHMs have as much voice in modern times as radical feminists lesbians had 40 years ago. I hope that women like yourselves will gecone more vocal and recognized for your value to civilization.

I agree there's a a lot of nonsense in the public discussions on gender issues these days. But I am stopping when the opening remark is so idiotically bad. She said in respect of birth control _"so the contraceptive pill is the first transhumanist technology it's the first major widespread, um, social you know biomedical Intervention which aims not at fixing something which has gone wrong with normal Health but upgrading normal."_ Sorry but that is utter BULLSHlT. People have been practising various forms of birth control going all the way back to Ancient Egypt. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control

​@@tonywilson4713 I think she means pharmacologically. Yes, preventing birth is not new, but this method is.

@@amandaowen5091 Its still a ridiculous statement and that's what I am really getting fed up with in the woke public discussions. There's just so much hyperbole and bad faith claims from *BOTH* sides. I don't know about you but I an getting fed up with the endless discussions when we have some far bigger issues to deal with. I'm an engineer and the energy crisis is only going to get so much worse than it is because there's been so much public BS that the real issues are being lost in all this endless cacophony.

​@@tonywilson4713"Major widespread biomedical intervention", the first industrial level pharmacological upgrade... sounds about right to me. Did she claim there was no birth control before that? No, of course she did not claim that at all.

@@biocykle AS I have said to others its just another chunk of worthless hyperbole in a BULLSHlT public discussion where *BOTH SIDES* seem to think that if they scream louder with worthless hyperbole they are somehow champions. I'm tired of *BOTH SIDES* in this worthless woke garbage pile of crap. There's some real issues to deal with that are worth discussing. You know just some minor things like: The Energy Crisis The Climate Crisis The Refugee Crisis The start of World War 3

I rejected feminism in the 1970s due to the reasons she explores. I can't wait to read the book either

Janice Fiamengo is also a good source.

I too have always cosidered myself a feminist (although not alligned to a particular movement), but have been doing a total 180 on many issues that I never would have forseen. Which has left me questioning so many things. I now look to biology / nature to guide my opinions a lot of the time, and by doing that I have had to revise my opinions, quite substantially.

​@@graceb3934 What issues did you change your mind about?

@@MisyeDiVre I think Fiamengo has also done her research involving reading primary sources of the time.