Why Renault's F1 team is descending into chaos (again)
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День томуRenault’s Formula 1 team warned the world it would have a tough start to 2024 when the new Alpine A524 was launched.
But when team principal Bruno Famin said it was going to be difficult, even he can’t have known just how bad it was going to get.
The evidence is clear - Alpine is dead last.
To add to the sense of woe engulfing this team, technical director Matt Harman and head of aerodynamics Dirk de Beer have resigned, and this has led to a hasty restructure of the technical leadership of the team.
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@totowolffstable4044 2 місяці тому
Alonso and Piastri dodged the biggest bullet in driver market history
@tHebUm18 2 місяці тому
Poor Pierre. In for the all French play and worse off than RB's B team.
@Lianpe98 2 місяці тому
Mclaren/Honda was a bigger bullet wasn't it?
@ze-ph9774 2 місяці тому
@@Lianpe98 To be fair though. The McLaren-Honda partnership was actually good on paper. It's just that both didn't gel well during their time together and both are at fault. In my opinion though, more on McLaren's zero-size concept and some egotistical decisions behind Honda's back like changing the fuel supplier, etc. Both decided to just ditch the project altogether. They knew where the pen stopped. Now, look at where they both are now. Meanwhile, Alpine Renault just doesn't know where to stop or find where the issue is. Every season it's like they don't know where the goalpost is. lmao.
@GamezGuru1 2 місяці тому
@@tHebUm18 of his own making, no sympathy required.
@menorasendaiba6404 2 місяці тому
"it's the *EL PLAN* all along" Alonso, probably
@Dre_The_Millennial 2 місяці тому
But F1 said Andretti would be uncompetitive and bad for the sport 🤷🤷
@soundscape26 2 місяці тому
What they don't want is basically 11 teams.
@MV1-OP81-Mclaren 2 місяці тому
@@soundscape26well then one team should sell , Sauber Stake is already gonna become Audi so that leaves VisaCashApp , Williams , Haas and Alpine. Williams I would leave because they are a historic team , Haas is owned by an American so they make the most sense to sell , Alpine is a manufacturer brand technically so I wouldn't want them to leave really and VisaCashApp could be another potential team to buy but I don't think Redbull would let go of them
@soundscape26 2 місяці тому
@@MV1-OP81-MclarenVcarb ideally because I'm not a fan of the same entity owning 2 teams but yeah, Red Bull won't let go of it.
@Gleepglurp 2 місяці тому
@@soundscape26 too bad the concord agreement says 12 teams so the teams blocking Andretti don't have a leg to stand on
@soundscape26 2 місяці тому
@@Gleepglurp That's why they didn't use that argument and went with the "don't bring value to the sport" thing.
@rocksmo3384 2 місяці тому
I am happy for Piastri that he managed to escape Alpine.
@Vok250 2 місяці тому
I like Ocon and Gasly though :'(
@Well_be_right_back 2 місяці тому
Same with Alonso and ricciardo
@RS-kl8hs 2 місяці тому
He’s a bit of a snake so not sure why you’re so happy for him
@pogotf 2 місяці тому
@@RS-kl8hstell alpine not to play with people’s careers and contracts. Its their fault for forcing piastri to wait and not having confidence in him
@RS-kl8hs 2 місяці тому
@@pogotf not really every team juggles their young drivers with no real plan in place until necessity dictates. Piastri is still a snake for his role in it
@barrymitchell1488 2 місяці тому
Haas: we will be last Apline: challenge accepted
@calumbishop7082 2 місяці тому
Haas actually look ok this year, I would say Sauber, Haas, 'Toro Rosso'/'Alpha Tauri' and Williams all seem to be in the same place performance wise.
@toyotaecw 2 місяці тому
3:13 Haas .769 (nice) of the pace.
@LipoAkku 2 місяці тому
Apline
@victorvelasquez6863 2 місяці тому
They literally swapped places lol
@yt.personal.identification 2 місяці тому
Next year... why is Alpine a team? ...because Andretti. Wahhhhh.
@nathanb286 2 місяці тому
I feel like Alpine have had more technical leadership restructurings that podiums in the last 3 years
@Dre_The_Millennial 2 місяці тому
It's not a feeling but an actual fact😂😂
@RaptorV1USA 2 місяці тому
Truth. Lol.
@TheGabe92 2 місяці тому
I think it's not just a feeling 😂
@H-Shop 2 місяці тому
As a matter of fact : Mercedes got a problem with their car, they changed their fucking car. (To take the words of a certain team manager). Alpine would rather change their engineers and managers than fix their issue. Very French if anything.
@luizansounds 2 місяці тому
The fact they got a win in 2021 is Crazy in hindsight, if they let Cyril they probably would still underperform but since he left they imploded in 4 years
@sidharthtirkey44 2 місяці тому
"It's Evolving, just backwards "
@JohnWiku 2 місяці тому
That would be called "devolving", sir 😂😂
@Kiwing827 2 місяці тому
They are french, they like moving backwards.
@NicotineRosberg 2 місяці тому
I don't understand. Y don't Renault just sell the team. Ever since they came back in the sport as a works outfit they have underperformed. Pull a Jaguar ffs.
@elacme626 2 місяці тому
@@NicotineRosbergbecause it's got too much history. we need to preserve teams like this even if they are going through a bad period. (Remember Williams last 7-8 years). F1 cannot afford to loose big manufacturers because nobody wants a grid full of kick saubers or visa cash app type of teams.
@nehylen5738 2 місяці тому
@@NicotineRosberg Because Renault can never be seen as a luxury or sports brand (which are pretty profitable for specialised manufacturers these days), which is why they resurrected Alpine. That and their focus towards EVs. But the name Alpine is barely known outside of the national borders. Alpine is thus trying to promote its name through racing. Considering how little known it is, selling Alpine F1 almost implies abandoning the brand and ambitions that go with it altogether. Plus, the value of having an F1 slot has increased considerably, as the whole Andretti episode shows. Finally, Renault has quite a bit of history with F1, whereas PSA is perceived through its WRC/Le Mans performances.
@dave6018 2 місяці тому
I remember Cyril Abiteboul saying Redbull would never win with Honda engines, when they deceded to ditch renault
@saldjs65 2 місяці тому
How competitive will 2026 Redbull Powertrains (RBPT) be? Can they become on par with Honda engines? 🤔
@Lianpe98 2 місяці тому
@@saldjs65Considering Redbull's way of working and the fact that they'll be doing it themeselves, they will get it right, it may take them more than two sesons but they'll eventually get there. If they end up unhappy with Ford and decide to do that themselves too, then it'll definetly take them more seasons or even a whole new cycle of regulations.
@anydaynow01 2 місяці тому
@@Lianpe98I think Ford is just going to handle the electric side, and this time RB won't have an engine freeze to protect the PU they sand bagged to get the rest of the teams to agree with it. They will need big help for the ICE side or hire an ICE genius and stuff his pockets full of cash like they did on the aero side. Their best bet is have someone like Cosworth come in and work with Ford for a total PU they will label as a Tag or whatever the highest bidder will pay to have it called.
@brianmoncion6723 2 місяці тому
Yup. Renault always has had problems delivering. Their current ICE is down 20 plus HP from rest of grid
@brianmoncion6723 2 місяці тому
@@saldjs65Honda is backing with technology and technicians. Pretty sure RB will be ok
@Grooove_e 2 місяці тому
The irony of the team name being Alpine and them going downhill
@corpsecoder_nw6746 2 місяці тому
lol
@falconmclenny7284 2 місяці тому
Noice
@dillonquigley3218 2 місяці тому
You know what the difference between Renault and HAAS? HAAS is underfunded and under supported, Renault is underperforming and under a rock
@Isanion 2 місяці тому
This feels true to me, but on paper HAAS is actually at the costcap. Can you explain in what way they're underfunded? Because they've got as much money to work with as everyone else at the cap.
@Kiwing827 2 місяці тому
@@Isanion Haas spend just under the cost cap for everything (daily operations, car development) other teams are spending right at the cost cap and are spending more on facilities upgrade (new factory, wind tunnel etc) Capital expenditure is recorded under a different set of cost cap
@Lora_Beolab 2 місяці тому
@@Isanion there are lost of expenses outside of the costcap, mostly it's the facilities were the cars are build
@polycube868 2 місяці тому
And Renault has the backing of the French government and still suck...Renault should just stick to being an engine supplier, only championships they have is because they bought Schumacher's old team and got Fernando Alonso in his prime, as an engine supplier they dominated the 90's, and with Red Bull dominated until the current regs.
@dillonquigley3218 2 місяці тому
Gene Haas does not want to spend money to build proper infrastructure like every other team. HAAS F1 team's operation is split into 3 separate bases, the main in the USA, another in the UK and the last in Italy with their partnership with Ferrari. Only RB has multiple locations (One in the UK and the other in Italy) but even then they are moving into the RedBull campus. Proper infrastructure is required for modern formula one and HAAS have the equivalent of a early 2000s setup. Communication is slow between their locations and hence development is slow too. Everything is slow when you have to travel across the world to meet the separate locations. @@Isanion
@rafaelmartinvannostrand2084 2 місяці тому
You know you're in deep trouble when you can't even paint a quarter of the car in order to save weight. Alpine, paint the full car properly, if you're going to be last at least do it in style
@cholatepnabangchang4834 2 місяці тому
That's what Lando said.
@yt.personal.identification 2 місяці тому
Many teams started this set of regulations doing exactly that. It isn't new.
@ThatMattWhite 2 місяці тому
Yeah basically every other team is only barely painting their cars, just enough to be somewhat distinct and include sponsors.
@aslamnurfikri7640 2 місяці тому
Carbon is the new white
@phightinphil25 2 місяці тому
To be fair they were one of the least painted non naturally black cars on the grid last season too. I just get the feeling Renault corporate have no interest in the Alpine brand (they have released 1 road car in 5 years. I get they are the sports and niche part of Renault but a car company can't be that slow at releasing models unless they only do exotic hyper cars.) and no knowledge of how to get back to the top in F1.
@patrickbateman1660 2 місяці тому
Feel bad for Gasly. Thought he was jumping to ship to something better
@phightinphil25 2 місяці тому
I mean for 1 season it did probably help him, beating an established driver for the team in Ocon at the first time of asking can't have hurt his reputation. Unfortunately having the team devolve the next season can't have been what he was hoping for.
@GAC8 2 місяці тому
1) he was team mate with cOCkON
@MarkyFormula1 2 місяці тому
I still believe he made the right choice. Works team vs junior team. He should be better off long term .....
@Youtubax 2 місяці тому
If they don’t sort out the situation before summer I can see Renault’s board taking the decision to sell the team once again. I just don’t see them bodering sacking/replacing more names there…
@jamescurrie01 2 місяці тому
Would love to see them sell to Andretti .
@FreddyMacT 2 місяці тому
it's sad because I have memories of the great days of Renault... even the 'ok' days were fun. But they're a joke, get out while the iron is hot for F1, as I don't think it will last long term.
@paperplane-db8qf 2 місяці тому
@@jamescurrie01Andretti can’t even create a top team in Indycar where there are spec cars and you expect them to do something in F1 😂
@hallo0hoi 2 місяці тому
At some point they are going to run out of people to fire or have resign at this peace
@jamescurrie01 2 місяці тому
@@paperplane-db8qf no one is saying they are going to win... would just love to SEE it 😃
@troyr3478 2 місяці тому
Piastri had a premonition about that dumpster fire.
@elcactusdelamuerte506 2 місяці тому
Not really sure if you’re predicting the future when the place has been a dumpster fire since their last world titles
@stillious 2 місяці тому
*Coulthard
@3rdGenGuy 2 місяці тому
one should always bet against French people. when has France ever done anything good without exploding long term?
@timaz1066 2 місяці тому
I think Weber had the premonition.
@DJA1599 2 місяці тому
All thanks to Weber, I'd say.
@tng2057 2 місяці тому
Oscar Piastri bailed out at the right time. Mark Webber was the genius. Maybe he knows best - Renault’s success in the 00s was mostly down to Briatore.
@Kiwing827 2 місяці тому
Briatore was also Webber and Alonso's manager, i wouldn't be surprise he was pulling the strings and get Webber to look at the contract thoroughly for any loop holes. Afterall, he did get Schumacher out of the Jordan contract.
@Vok250 2 місяці тому
As an engineer i definitely see red flags of corporate business meddling, which is poison to innovation
@McLarenMercedes Місяць тому
French corporate/state business meddling has historically rarely, if ever, been a successful formula for lasting success.
@user-st6dp1ug8f 2 місяці тому
How does a team go from 4th fastest to dead last in 2 years
@m_cabral 2 місяці тому
Chase away all the good people. Fire whoever doesn’t leave. Frustrate the middling. Promote the poor performers (I.e. their senior leadership) into the positions at the top.
@0megalul309 2 місяці тому
alonso and prost leaving.
@elcactusdelamuerte506 2 місяці тому
Ask renault who went from 1st to 8th within two years 💀
@teabagtowers3823 2 місяці тому
When you have CEO who was as incompetent deluded and off-putting as Laurent Rossi it tends to not help results.
@marcmillis3867 2 місяці тому
Hire clowns like ocon & gasly instead of Alonso & piastry.
@msagoo29 2 місяці тому
Alain Prost warned Luca de Mao that Laurent Rossi was inexperienced and arrogant and that would destroy the team, and Prost got sacked by Rossi. He's out there laughing his head off now.
@timquerengesser1561 2 місяці тому
I take issue with "descending" and "again." The team is in chaos perpetually.
@elcactusdelamuerte506 2 місяці тому
Exactly it’s been a shit show since their return, hell most people would probably agree it goes back as far as the season after their last titles as it takes a special kind of talent to go from winning the constructors to not even picking up one quarter of the champions points the following year.
@GloomGaiGar 2 місяці тому
as expected of the French
@shaunchia9470 2 місяці тому
Locked out the back row is crazy
@jreal54 2 місяці тому
Lol. You heard that too? Like they "accomplished" something.
@emmanuel.gyapong 2 місяці тому
The comment I was looking for. Had me screaming😂😂😂.
@victorvelasquez6863 2 місяці тому
Kinda crazy how the graph at 6:16 is almost perfectly symmetrical 💀
@Mrcento 2 місяці тому
And kinda funny when you realise that the left side was the start of the '5 year plan to win', and the right side is lower than where they started 🤣
@Kiwing827 2 місяці тому
A fully manufacturer works team qualifying in the last row is just a disgrace, never would i thought that i would want Flavio Briatore to manage the team might actually work. Renault should just sell the Enstone team to Andretti and just remain as an engine supplier, this way all resources within Renault can be focused on the Power unit.
@riccardolodi4456 2 місяці тому
The problem is that no one would want a worse, heavier, slower and more overheating PU, and Andretti has General Motors
@paperplane-db8qf 2 місяці тому
Like as if Andretti would be any better. Renault was pretty competitive 1-2 years ago but firing Cyril and Otmar screwed it over.
@riccardolodi4456 2 місяці тому
@@paperplane-db8qf at least they have a team that is still together and not falling apart
@stevenmoran4060 2 місяці тому
Renaults should remember that they used to make the engine every team wanted. They powered Red Bull to titles easily then, when the current turbo era came in they were just way off the pace. Odd really seeing as Renault were the first team ever to use turbo power in F1 with Renee Arnoux.
@09csr 2 місяці тому
@@stevenmoran4060Not necessarily, remember that while Renault started with turbos, but Honda was the ones to perfect them. Renault found most success in N/A-era F1, with Williams, Benetton, Renault works and Red Bull.
@michaelwilkie35 2 місяці тому
Safe to say that Alonso, Ricciardo, Piastri & Prost, (don’t remember if he left or was “dismissed”) made the right choice to abandon the Renault/Alpine ship.
@JMurph2015 2 місяці тому
Don't forget Sainz too.
@andresmartinezramos7513 2 місяці тому
@@JMurph2015Sainz?
@RACECAR 2 місяці тому
@@JMurph2015 I'd argue the lure of Driving for Ferrari was the main reason for his departure, he also happens to be lucky that Ferrari's current bad form is not Alpine's current bad form.
@JMurph2015 2 місяці тому
@@RACECAR I'm pretty sure Sainz went to McLaren after Renault. Then he went to Ferrari after that.
@neillaw9867 2 місяці тому
I want to know what Alpine were giving all the celebrity investors to drink. Must have been bloody strong stuff.
@nchmusic99 2 місяці тому
I'm sure is anything but Red Bull drink
@JoeDaeHimself 2 місяці тому
Prost was pretty harsh with de Meo and Rossi, for the sudden moves in the previous year.
@patepulkkinenvtec2403 2 місяці тому
But The Professor was right, as usual. You don't sack a motorsport genius like him and then wonder why you end up having the worst car on thr grid.
@d00dEEE 2 місяці тому
Let me get this straight: 1) down on power; 2) down on front mech grip; 3) down on rear mech grip; 4) down on front downforce; 5) down on rear downforce; 6) significantly overweight. Did I miss anything?
@nchmusic99 2 місяці тому
Nah , you missed the down on everything part
@phightinphil25 2 місяці тому
It might be faster turned off and left to roll down a hill 🤣
@nchmusic99 2 місяці тому
@phightinphil25 he should have added, increase in unreliability, increase in tyre wear , significantly increase in car size
@TassieLorenzo 2 місяці тому
7) Lost potential Alonso/Piastri driver lineup.
@phightinphil25 2 місяці тому
@@TassieLorenzo That was never an option they were considering for some reason. That makes far too much sense for those running Alpine. A young star and a veteran star is pretty much what every team wants.
@stephanetessier3378 2 місяці тому
Thumbs up for THE RACE for its quality content amidst a sea of click-baiting, content-lacking competitors.
@simonh870 2 місяці тому
Oscar Piastri had a lucky escape.
@ChrisHopkinsBass 2 місяці тому
If I was Renault I’d be asking Andretti if they fancy taking over the running of the team, ProDrive style
@ELSTERLING 2 місяці тому
It's surreal that ten, twenty years ago if you told the mid-grid/backmarker teams they'd be about a second a lap off of the front they'd probably be happy. Thirty years ago and they'd be absolutely delighted by that news. Now it's dead last.
@LMSCa18det 2 місяці тому
Explantation : It's a French company, where there is like 10 manager for 1 dude, there never agree with each other AND they must work with Enstone in UK. BTW i'm french 😆
@EK4B16A2 2 місяці тому
100%. Terrible culture environment if you are after performance and efficiency.
@phightinphil25 2 місяці тому
@@EK4B16A2 They should move the Chassis and car development team to France at least then both teams can understand why the other part is having difficulties more easily.
@EK4B16A2 2 місяці тому
@@phightinphil25 meh. If that would be the case, now both teams would be taking 7 weeks off per year and would become allergic to overtime.
@phightinphil25 2 місяці тому
@@EK4B16A2 Yes but that would be allowed for and built into the schedule. Secondarily why shouldn't they get 8 weeks off per year and not want to work overtime ? I didn't know you were the second leading stock holder at Renault after the French government.
@EK4B16A2 2 місяці тому
@@phightinphil25 they can, but then you are last. That's all. It's all matter of setting your priorities straight. You can see it at a broader level too. If you see the French economy vs a competitive country (US, Japan, Singapur, you name it). They will fall behind year by year until they are not a contender anymore.
@fallenshallrise 2 місяці тому
I don't have any insider info but I would put the focus on the Renault executive team. They seem like corporate types that think the way to motivate the team is by inventing a plan and then making people agree to aggressive "targets" that they must hit even if they are not possible given the constraints. This is how you end up with corporate fraud, cooked books or the VW scandal. In F1 you can't just lie about your results so there must be a lot of pressure when your boss has unrealistic goals and your job is on the line.
@juliuskresnik198 2 місяці тому
Andretti: "Let us in." F1: "No, you'll be uncompetitive and struggle technically." Alpine: *A Works team in last place* Andretti: Bruh
@alexisesquilin5814 2 місяці тому
Just sell the team to Andretti. He'll actually put the care and attention to the team that Renault refuses to do
@woody5109 2 місяці тому
Andretti wouldn’t know how to turn a car in both directions, then all that shifting 😂
@MV1-OP81-Mclaren 2 місяці тому
@@woody5109 Guess someone has never seen Indy car racing before 🙄
@matej6357 2 місяці тому
F1: we can't let Andretti in, it would make our sport and our organization look bad. Sauber, VCARB, Haas, Alpine, Christian Horner: HOLD OUR BEERS!!!!
@niktoi867 2 місяці тому
y'all need to stop with andretti , nothing proves that they would be doing a better job than any other team, same for audi , they're coming soon , but people say that they might not be a front runner from the begining, even tho they have the money and structure.
@KuchingKingVideoGamer 2 місяці тому
@@MV1-OP81-MclarenAndretti at Indycar wasn't that great 😂
@eshelly4205 2 місяці тому
It’s a shame because they have two fantastic drivers.
@FPV-Jon 2 місяці тому
Just 1 race done in 2024, and Im allready popping popcorn ready for "drive to survive" season 7. So much drama
@TheEarlofK 2 місяці тому
I think Renault's commitment to F1 disintegrated when they changed the name of the team to Alpine in 2021, a clear sign that a car manufacturer is hedging its bets, which in the real world means it is no longer a priority and is likely to fail due to lack of funding. The fact that so many senior people have left in recent years simply corroborates that. Nobody can doubt Renault's commitment to the sport over the years, but I think that's likely to be only as a power unit supplier going forward.
@hans-joachim-klaus1087 Місяць тому
i think so, too. One of my first thoughts in 2021.
@daryld149 2 місяці тому
Um...Andretti-Cadillac, anyone? They STILL don’t deserve a go? Oh, right…money!
@Ceece20 2 місяці тому
Even more: “it’s an American team that actually wants to compete. We just want a token American team that doesn’t actually mean anything.” Typical European elitism.
@blakepadilla3202 2 місяці тому
Crazy how the renault v6 PU has been underpowered since 2014 and they haven’t been able to catch up 10 years later
@purplestrawberrysunset 2 місяці тому
Wasn't it one of the strongest engines a while ago but also unreliable?
@junsengjs 2 місяці тому
And Honda came in in 2016 with a worse engine but ultimately delivered what is probably an engine on par if not better than the Mercedes engine, while Renault is still behind.
@hattorihonzo8340 2 місяці тому
Tbh I don’t feel bad for any of them except Gasly. Drove for AT while they were pretty much dead last, moved to alpine for a much better 4th place drive, only to end up dead last again. And to rub salt in the wound RB look like they might be near the top of the midfield. Sad for him.
@phightinphil25 2 місяці тому
He needs some sort of miracle and to for Horner to get amnesia and replace Checo with himself and then prove the last time was due to the car being not perfected and his own lack of experience.
@BonakeleMaqungo-sj9nj 2 місяці тому
Piastri dodged such a huge bullet with leaving this team when he did!😬😬😬😬
@321coley 2 місяці тому
The Renualt engine has been the slowest for years
@marantamil459 2 місяці тому
Stages of Renault misses. 1. Cyril TP 2. Fred Vasseur leaves - should have been TP 3. Not keeping Sainz - there was a good balance with Hulk and Sainz 4. Signing Ric - valuable money for car dev. lost 5. Dropping Hulk - Matched Ric and fired because he wasnt French 6. Signing Ocon - Cost them Alonso aswell 7. Not firing Cyril fast enough 8. Not giving Alonso or Piastri a contract 9. Not giving Otmar enough time. 10. They want to make it french. No one wants that.
@Syphr54 2 місяці тому
It should be obvious national teams don’t work. Just look at Ferrari for example, ever since they switched back to an all Italian team behind the scenes, they have not won a single championship. Now that Vasseur is TP, we all see some stuff improving and Ferrari getting competitive.
@ChloroFluoroHexane 2 місяці тому
Cyril had a lot of constraints to deal with, there's a french interview where he talks about it. Not everything that happened to Renault back in the days is Cyril's fault
@TassieLorenzo 2 місяці тому
What's wrong with Cyril as TP? It was unwise to waste $20m p/a on Ricciardo, but Ferrari will be wasting $100m p/a on Hamilton so it's not out of the ordinary. The inability to have a budget to match or exceed Red Bull, Ferrari or Mercedes and invest heavily in facilities while it was still unrestricted, was out of Abiteboul's hands. If Renault Sport F1's budget wasn't so limited compared to top teams, then $20m here or there for Ricciardo wouldn't matter. Renault never brought the attitude to win at any cost like Mercedes - neither on the power unit nor on the chassis!
@yahyayazgi8 2 місяці тому
9:08 el plan😂
@anjaneyatowar7571 2 місяці тому
1:36 They surely knew !! Look at their faces 😂
@nirmaljoseph1402 2 місяці тому
The ONLY way that this team can be turned around is it Bruno Famin is the greatest team principle ever. And judging by the fact that he has no control over the situation since Otmar left, this is gonna end badly for Pierre and Esteban and the entire Enstone team.
@lavonwatson8814 2 місяці тому
Has some have said, sell to Andretti....
@yt.personal.identification 2 місяці тому
Why? Feelings? Last week it was Haas. Just stop hating every team because F1 doesn't want more privateers.
@nukenet1 2 місяці тому
3:14 Why is the Qualy 2 the metric used for a graph that is titled Gran Prix pace? GP Pace surely must be either the best racing lap or average pace of the best car in each team, i.e. maximised data for that car under race conditions. Picking a qualy 2 time where there is no incentive to be the fastest makes no sense, you just have to be in the top 10. I'd argue average race pace is the better metric because that is what wins races, fastest lap is largely meaningless, HASS used to provide spectacular single lap pace, but it's still a rubbish race car. Ferrari didn't win the GP, it didn't get the best lap in the race, so it can't have the best pace.
@PoshBergie 2 місяці тому
The inserts of the animated game-like trackside visuals are subtle
@matej6357 2 місяці тому
Wouldn't it only help if they moved both engine and chasis departments to the same location? They've tried it separate for years now to little success. With a cost cap in place, it seems this separation would hurt them even more.
@elcactusdelamuerte506 2 місяці тому
Engine development is paused bar reliability upgrades, so not much is gonna change it will remain underfunded, underpowered and unable to be adapted to better suit the car
@Me171 2 місяці тому
Merc have the same set up
@09csr 2 місяці тому
It could, but it would be expensive, and as long as communication is good base of engine and chassis shouldn't matter, it's not a suitable excuse IMO. Remember: Honda developed the current RB units in Sakura, Japan. And Mercedes built their engines in Brixworth, not Brackley like the rest of the car.
@project182r3 2 місяці тому
When you look at De Beers previous cars - you wouldn’t employ this man in this role.
@apple-ientje4566 2 місяці тому
The cars apparently don't run good on turmoil..
@thakers123 2 місяці тому
Its going wrong because the board either fire good people or good people leave.
@aubinmonteil2336 2 місяці тому
To be noted: It's the British side of Alpine's leadership that resigned amidst strong friction between the French and British side of the team.
@phightinphil25 2 місяці тому
That's not surprising, they should move out of Enstone to avoid the cultural problems it might not make the car faster but it would help with understanding and communication.
@LtNduati 2 місяці тому
This was the one time Alonso made a smart career move since his championship years with old renault, and it proves if even he can spot this catastrophe from a mile away, then it will surely be a categorical catastrophe when it does inevitably go bang.
@MrDana93 2 місяці тому
I had a feeling something was up when Renault took their name off it
@corpsecoder_nw6746 2 місяці тому
3:15 the fact that Williams is 1.1% off and for reference in Singapore last year Red Bull were almost that far off shows that ironically, bringing everyone closer in pace means no one has enough of an advantage to actually overtake or suddenly spring a surprise. If a team starts a year strongly it's done. The drivers are also incredibly almost robotic, metronomic in their driving. So we can forget the good old days (2003-2013) coming back.
@EK4B16A2 2 місяці тому
French enterprises are - by definition- slow, burocratic, and inefficient. The culture is also low engagement, so the team is likely looking after themselves rather than focusing and sacrificing towards one objective.
@aareyaman2107 2 місяці тому
Just sell it to Andretti
@paperplane-db8qf 2 місяці тому
Andretti should be competitive in Indycar before its fanboys think it’ll do anything worthwhile in F1.
@TheAshleyYoyo 2 місяці тому
What’s he gonna bring that Renault already haven’t
@derbigpr500 2 місяці тому
Why, you want their cars to be 5 seconds per lap slower instead of 1 second?
@yt.personal.identification 2 місяці тому
Not another privateer buying parts. Just no. F1 are in talks with real full factory works teams. Why didn't Chev commit properly?
@ElGuatequero 2 місяці тому
@@yt.personal.identification wtf are you talking about, Andretti is fully backed up by General Motors, you should do some research before open your mouth.
@K9neRapsta 2 місяці тому
Whoever is in charge of your background music for all these videos, please make a playlist!
@frankm7707 2 місяці тому
Alpine is now renamed to Deadpool F1
@CR-jt5pv 2 місяці тому
If Andretti isn’t being allowed to start, why is alpine being allowed to stay?
@yt.personal.identification 2 місяці тому
They are an F1 team. Andretti isn't. It really isn't complicated.
@yt.personal.identification 2 місяці тому
Why didn't Chev commit? They likely would have been successful. F1 doesn't need another privateer buying parts - they are in talks with Porsche and Audi looking for full works teams to add more suppliers - not add privateers. This was huge news. How do F1 fans not know that they want factory teams, not privateers?
@just10kills92 2 місяці тому
In drive to survive, gastly said alpine is where he has a chance to win over alpha tari
@alexnowis2468 2 місяці тому
I have been waiting for this!!
@DonLee1980 2 місяці тому
Alpine qualified worst, but if you look at the lap times of last year, their time would have beaten everyone in Q1. Just shows the amount of improvement the whole grid gets
@PlaySA 2 місяці тому
Interesting point.
@apexyao8931 2 місяці тому
At this rate, just demote it to F3 👀
@SJF98 Місяць тому
Great analysis. This ebb and flow is part of sport. It's super-competitive all teams are up against it. They're likely to crack it, as others in the same plight have done before...
@CringeLord0119 2 місяці тому
It seems that Alpine is not a competitive participant. One could even question if F1 brings value to the Alpine brand rather than the other way around 🤔
@mixmaster1079 2 місяці тому
Main problem is on board side methinks. Sell the controlling portion to andretti with a caveat on first option in future, Pull out on engine side to free them up to use honda :)
@benoitbergeron8858 2 місяці тому
I hope that Gastly and Ocon both have opportunities to shine, this year. They both deserve a better car.
@bosco_bosco753 Місяць тому
Hate to see them struggle. Hope it gets better.
@Whichevertea23 2 місяці тому
this is why they are now called alpine, bearing renaults real name would be bad for their image.
@bobtuiliga8691 2 місяці тому
Anyone who has experienced French corporate culture probably has a strong suspicion what the root problem actually is
@pavise6333 2 місяці тому
Since the car technically has no livery, paint it to 2016 Manor colors so Ocon can have a trip down the memory lane
@Quixpeed 2 місяці тому
Maurizio Arrivabene is their best option if available, he was one of the bosses who brought improvement to Ferrari
@clintondomingo932 2 місяці тому
Alpine :"We stand with the farmers of France. They were the inspiration for this years car"
@cosak23 2 місяці тому
with mr Wheater back in aero from his 3rd rate showing at Williams , renault is well and truly stuffed
@fuzzynutter8344 2 місяці тому
And yet in the WEC's Qatar 1812km, Alpine didn't get off to a bad start with their brand new A424. Mind you, using someone else's chassis and engine and having your works outfit run by Signatech probably helps 😆.
@mikejackson9585 2 місяці тому
What on earth is going on with that rear suspension? That's the first time I've seen it, and I can't imagine how that works. The forces that act on it have to be terribly out of balance, and the natural inherent movements can't be in sync (suspensions have inherent tendencies based on their geometry). Hopefully, it's just the angle the photo was taken from, but if not... this is going to be a long season and off-season due to a potentially expensive rework and lost time.
@rapfumaludziramuthaga8523 2 місяці тому
Imagine having an opinion about the video before you even 1 minute of tge video, comments are wild
@thesighbored 2 місяці тому
3:30 "The positive is that everyone is pushing [their resignations]." | Bruno Famin Alpine team principal 🤣
@whassupg89 2 місяці тому
The endless cycle. If it wasn’t for the engine they bring to the grid (which no one else wants/uses) what is the point of this team
@SuaveGuy23 2 місяці тому
“Locked out the back row” 😭
@andyfry745 2 місяці тому
Was there lap time faster last year?
@doxydoxdelamanca9902 2 місяці тому
Locked out the back row. Ouch.
@leblancX94 2 місяці тому
Weird seeing this have no views
@BostonFenian 2 місяці тому
This team's problem has always been at the ownership level, which is the worst possible reality for Alpine fans such as myself
@WjC00LEY 2 місяці тому
Title is exactly my thoughts: here we go again! 🤣
@sleepercell9926 2 місяці тому
Do the Benetton famiy still have any money? Does anyone think that they may want it back?
@8bvg300 2 місяці тому
Ha! I knew they were gone before the race, so why say they only got a notice after the race
@erik_moenart 2 місяці тому
Not to pile on, but the livery also looks terrible. Looks like an expansion team that someone created in a game.
@doctorscoot 2 місяці тому
One race in and everything is suddenly upside down almost everywhere 😮
@jukkalindqvist1435 2 місяці тому
This season gonna be on fire 🔥🔥🔥 literally.
@alias19 2 місяці тому
There’s some interesting data in these charts 3:11 It’s been a long time since Ferrari were at the top of the comparison charts.💯 4:17 You’d expect greater performance gains from the lesser teams, but McLaren are shown with MASSIVE improvement over a fairly advanced standing beginning the end of 2023.
@brendonbalow6488 2 місяці тому
its insane to me that 22 pounds / 10kg can result in nearly half a second. that's literally just a short diet and your in your Q1 for a lot of the drivers
@TassieLorenzo 2 місяці тому
Driver weight allowance is a separate 80kg. You will only be penalised now for being over 80kg. Previously it was 75kg which was difficult for some of the taller drivers like Ocon to meet.
@YouTubeWatcher9000 2 місяці тому
4:20 McLaren with a 1.7 second improvement, 5 tenths more than the 2nd most improved, and still only p7. As a McLaren fan I’m glad they’re improving but I forgot how much they sucked at Bahrain last year. I really hope they improve a lot throughout the season like last year. If they improve as much as they did last year, maybe they can catch Red Bull towards the end of the season.
@chrisc475 2 місяці тому
Constant improvement is something that ALL teams do. It Formula One for heaven's sake! Alpine needs regular, large improvements, which is very hard to do.
@bzilla1090 2 місяці тому
And this is exactly why F1 said no to Andretti, as GM's engines will only be ready by 2026, Andretti were going to have to run Renault engines, so Alpine and Andretti-Renault would just be another Arrows vs Minardi for the season, and Andretti would've been stuck there till 2026, which still doesn't guarantee them being competitive as those who know the sport amd have been here for a while knows how Toyota overestimated their challenge, and they left the sport with their tails tucked firmly between their legs after wasting $5 billion and not getting a single win.
@wraitheful 2 місяці тому
yes indeed!
@vanquish7247 2 місяці тому
Alpine make the Renault+Cyril era seem legendary!!
@chemwrite 2 місяці тому
Really, this should be enough indication that Andretti should simply buy Alpine. Renault is supposed to supply engines. That would a lot easier than building the whole damned car. It would give them something to hide behind and would give Andretti what it needs.
@kitkat224 2 місяці тому
i didnt expect alpine to go backwards this year..
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