Why Ryanair is withdrawing more and more from the German market

Why Ryanair is withdrawing more and more from the German market | DW News

9 місяців тому

One of the EU's top airlines, budget-carrier Ryanair, is continuing its dispute with Germany over what it says are 'excessive' airport levies.
The airline releasing a lengthy statement Monday blasting plans to raise security fees again in January - saying that Germany's overall fee structure is reducing the competitiveness of smaller players, like Ryanair, which plays into the hands of flag-carrier Lufthansa. Both Ryanair and Easyjet have reduced their presence in Germany, despite expanding elsewhere in Europe.
Airports and governments charge airlines a long list of fees, such as tax, landing charges or security fees... which makes Germany a less attractive place to operate. That's according to budget airlines like Ryanair and Easyjet, both of which reduced their presence in Germany last winter despite expanding elsewhere in Europe.
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@frannyp46

Not a huge fan of Ryanair, but they grew a tiny Blackpool airport and put on regular flights to Belfast and Girona. The airport was busy and responded by putting the rent up. Ryanair almost immediately withdrew their planes and the airport closed down not long after.

@jsperdigao

I live in Stuttgart and used frequently Easyjet in pre-covid times. After covid airport expenses were driven up, and easyjet ultimately dropped all its connections from here. Within an year Eurowings (Lufthansa low-cost daughter company) replaced all those destinations. Of course for higher prices.

@lordkorner

I'll tell this story one more time.

@samc8623

The same happened in Estonia. There used to be loads of Ryanair flights going everywhere and then they hiked the fees at the airpot and Ryanair left. Now, to visit my parents in Portugal, there is just Lufthansa at silly o'clock for 500 euros round trip. The solution: I just take a boat to Stockholm and then take a Ryanair flight from there instead... still cheaper than Lufthansa, which is just a low-cost quality airline disguised as a premium.

@eddy66t6

1.) Ryanair complains in EVERY country that the airport fees are too high. Look up their arguments with the DAA in Ireland.

@AndersHenke

There's a catch RyanAir's CEO Wilson doesn't mention: back from the cold war era, Germany did have quite a lot of military airbases, airfields and the like, operated by air forces from the US, Canada, the UK and many more countries. After the breakdown of the Soviet Union and Germany's re-unification, those air forces left Germany during the 1990ies, leaving behind a few dozen or so of runways and military airports.

@theniallofella

Really good discussion. Not a fan of Ryanair's product at all but between O'Leary and Wilson their PR firepower is unmatched - two really smart guys. Kudos to the interviewer too who held his own really well.

@HS-kx1ho

I live in Frankfurt and the Lufthansa prices have gone through the roof, at least 40% more expensive. Unfortunately some of the pre 2020 low-cost airlines have quit operating. It is impossible to find anything below 300 Euros during summer. I live next to the largest airport in Germany and I sometimes have to drive 130km to Hahn because the prices are often twice as low. I always thought it was mostly a demand and offer issue coming from the pandemic but that seems to be just a part of the problem. Hopefully the new low-cost terminal will solve the problem here.

@betterbhagalpur8837

I live in Hamburg, Germany. This is the second largest city in Germany. If you look at the flight connection here, it is ridiculous.

@franksilva2600

How is Ryanair a smaller player? The CEO is ridiculous.

@eliseumds

Frankfurt 's was probably the worst airport I've been through... badly-designed signs, rude staff, bad food and I lost my connection because baggage handling took 2h 🤡 It must be even worse nowadays.

@tommay6590

He choose a remarkable wording in the beginning when we said Ryanair was able to hold all its employees…how many people at Ryanair are actually employed by Ryanair and not by a sub ( or sub-sub) contractor? Who exactly is the German consumer? Does Ryanair now sell more tickets from airports close to the German border to prove Germans choose foreign airports as a cheap alternative?

@Ondrus90

The main idea is to limit people from flying by rising prices, sadly. Lufthansa just takes the ultimate profit as lowcost pulls out people are "forced" to pay up if they want o fly.

@CuracaoRevisited

went through Frankfurt airport once as a transit and it was a nightmare. Long waits, rude staff and lots of checking going on (even while having an EU passport). Not sure if the lack of competition is the result of this, however I guess that more competition would not hurt better service

@halleffect5439

We need a better train network. Flying short distances is uneconomic and will not stay this cheap in future.

@durchschnittlicherzuschaue9733

Ryanair isn't a "small player" by any kind of measurement. He just wants the taxpayer to subsidise airports in order to be able to offer ridiculously low fares. It's not a realistic price model when a flight from Germany to the South of France costs less than the bus ride to the airport. Their largest base in Germany, Airport Frankfurt-Hahn, went bankrupt because of their unsustainable fee structure. There is also absolutely no reason why Ryanair should pay lower fees at Frankfurt International than Lufthansa, as it did during the initial period, even though Lufthansa is by far the larger customer in Frankfurt. I feel absolutely no sympathy with Ryanair. BTW, there is also a good reason why Ryanair is flying 737 only, as Airbus isn't willing to sell their planes at dumping prices.

@user-er5wf8ve5t

Expat living in Berlin:

@DorianOrage

I live close to Frankfurt and I decided to take the high speed train to Basel in order to fly with easyjet to Sardinia. The same flight from Frankfurt would have been four times the price. I think that explains everything there is to know.

@DieKorkwandplayer

the problem i see is that germany wants to reduce the attractivness of flying in general so this might be a reason why they chose to do this, but if it just helps lufthansa but reduces competitiveness on the remaining market this most likely is the wrong approach. maybe a percentage based fee on the price of the ticket that gets invested in the railway system?

@hillockfarm8404

So a ceo of a everything cheap company is complaining that airports maybe charge enough to pay their people a decent wage?! Do they even do that themselves?