Other team got jealous on it so they ask FIA to ban it

aye, i think anything an F1 team create should be allowed and kept no matter what, these people are the smartest mechanics the world will know. banning their innovations is just stupid. F1 needs cars with hidden secrets to keep it more .... unbalanced.

@@preacherz01 I agree, but that's only in the case that the inclusion of the innovation doesn't result in "extended periods of one handed driving", or otherwise doesn't give them a very significant edge.

The fault of people that implemented it in an unsafe manor, IE use of a hand to activate and loss of some steering control.

And that's why i think it is getting more and more boring.

More deaths

Like formula B rally?

Imagine the deaths

@@uuuultra death is good, something you can learn from

Or more deadly lol.

Lol same

I've always hated the spelling of Vodafone so I think I'll start calling it the "ph" duct from now on.

yeah, I've always thought that it's called like that because of the shape of the piping system

I thought it stood for "flow duct"

It doesn't stand for the F in Vodafone

Well it worked - they covered the F-Duct with one hand so nobody sees that the car has an F-Duct. Complex problems require simple solutions.

The reason other teams had to use their hands were due to the drivers survival cell being homologated at the start of the season. Mclaren had designed their safety cell with a hole for the leg to activate it, other teams were not able to punch a hole in it for their leg to activate it, hence using their hands instead.

I think it was more like "Lets use our hands so the FIA bans it three seconds after it finds out we are steering with one hand ROTFLMAOTROLOLOL"

@@armands3153 nah that aint right. come do plumbing and piping work in a derelict house without adequate lighting and comfortable spacing to do ya job. trying to get a pipe cutter onto a gullied oxidised pipe thats 3 ft below the ground floor of a house.

metalhead and a car guy wtf are we twin or something

That was crazy 🤯

You wouldn’t think driving in a straight line would be hard, yet most car accidents happen on motorways 🤦‍♂️

@@Sparrowash97 Absolutely.

Nothing on senna driving one handed around Monaco

Alonso drove with 1 hand in corners! I remember seeing it on TV.

hold my *steering wheel

@@jazznazz8152 you have a steering wheel?

by using the back of the hand there's no need to drive with one hand

Hold my hand

Lecrec Hold my seatbelts

It’s because the FIA is afraid of being more technologically advanced

@@trentwerner366 No, it was for safety, cause of the 1 handed driving

@@irish_mcrae1892 its because they competitors are too lazy to think of ways to make a f duck that doesnt involve the use of one hand and its people like that who got it bannedf

@@irish_mcrae1892 No, because systems that were activated by the driver's knee were also banned.

It was banned for safety also anything activated by using your knee or make u take your hand off the wheel is also banned

They should take all the wheels off the cars and just imagine who would win off of which car looks cooler

@Izan TM so, turn F1 into an e-sport

@@MasrSR mercedes looks the coolest imo

It lasted several years and took several different forms

😂

I blame their stunting of innovation through motorsports for the advent of the absolute crap that mainstream manufacturers are now producing.

mainstream residential cars have been perfected over 10 years ago. People like bells and whistles and stuff that means they can become sh*ttier drivers. Does any racing vehicle have blind spot indicators, pedestrian collision technology or an ability to attempt to drive itself? Exactly. Safety is being a good driver, not a car that lets u not pay attention and rewards you for it by not letting u get into an accident or preventing you from mowing down a pack of school children crossing the street as ur texting ur bff. If you need that sh*t you should take the bus or a bycicle.

@@michael-dm2bv Cue the soap-boxing purist... Boxing people into whatever extreme to disguise personal preference as some sort of factoid is a bit schoolyard silly. Grow up. You've a long way to go before you're savvy enough to "win" the internet award for puerile rants. Comparing two vehicles with entire different design purpose is just pointless. Cars as a whole by dint of being machines will never be "perfected" until people run out of ideas and stop inventing. Hasn't happened in human history yet, likely never will. Cars of all kinds will continue to change as people innovate until something comes along to make them obsolete. Racing rules stunt the pace of progress but do not in fact stop it.

@@machinech183 - someone is mad. u must like ur barely relevant self driving musk ev or ur volvos blind spot warning flashers. i have already won the award for rants. Keeping the sole of ur foot on satans head ain't easy, and i can easily surmise that you would not know.

@@machinech183 - u seem to have run out of ideas. Does that imply that martians have been perfected? You no longer need to improve? have you ever watched "they live"? how about jacob's ladder? Lets talk! Don't be mad. Hell is going to enjoy ur soul! If that's not good news i don't know what is.

I get the feeling you are an idiot. He clearly says, the teams copy and/or campaign for solutions to be banned, stated multiple times.

Coder Stone that’s not a reason for why they lobby that innovations be banned. You could say “unfair advantage” but that’s not entirely true given the technology is in its infancy.

Maybe the one handed driving was deemed to dangerous

Agreed, this is a 3 minute video

It got banned because teams were implementing the technology poorly and in unsafe ways, particularly by driving with one hand to activate the F duct.

V10s have that awesome harmonic sound.

Why was it banned though?

Maxim idk ask Williams

@Ethan Yost lol how did that work out? as cylinders went away, it sounds like that anyway

@Ethan Yost if they did not ban CVTs in F1, i am willing to bet we'd have better CVTs today. F1s sound like high pitched weed eaters anyway.

@@dimitriyakovic1522 - Have you ever listened to a snowmobile competition? Well, that's CVT racing, there's only FORWARDS and BACKWARDS. The 4 most famous vehicles with CVT are electric cars (and some hybrids like the Prius), Polaris UTVs, direct-drive karts and mopeds.

I really don't get that. I would understand the ban, if it has potential harm and danger, but otherwise... How can they innovative, if the teams are required to follow specific set of rules which don't account any kind of technical freedom. And if someone legally "bends" the rules, other teams like sore losers right away try to ban it, because their engineers didn't thought of it. Like what is this? Why is everything so imprecise and cryptic?

@@racetracknerd9484 We shall see.

That's why F1 is basically parade laps determined by the size of your wallet

Well f-duct wasn't banned, is just by the time DRS was introduced, the f-duct became pointless

@@armands3153 Potential harm and danger... Like drivers going flat out with one hand on the wheel?

Pikachu *Wait, DAS illegal.

Also Ferrari International Assistance: Hey guys! Why the hell is everything so expensive? (Answer: FIA keeps removing all the "cheap" options)

Sad but true

Think of the system as a whole as the switch. By putting his hand on the hole in the cockpit the driver activates pressure differences and changes how or where the air ( fluid ) is diverted , hence a switch.

its digestible recycled youtube content. There are some great explanations of it out there.

You know when you stick your hand over the end of the hose on a vacuum cleaner and the motor spins faster? You can use that kinda thing to switch which pipe the air flows through. And if you throw some air at a wing in the right way, it messes the whole thing up and stops moving air, less downforce = less drag.

Air goes whoosh whoosh. When driver want air to go whoosh over the airplain wing, driver block air window to make whoosh go over airplan wing. FFS it's a fucking duct, dude. What's to understand?

I mean it’s always gonna be unfair, racing against spaceships...

Salt especially weaponized ones

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@@AutosportOfficial you already did a video. great!

Autosport lmao top lad

DAS / F duct / W duct, and thats the only one i have in mind atm, but its still full of innovation dw.

@@Amauvy There are hundreds, it's just that most are not prominent enough visually or performance wise to get a name and attention of the public eye. There's also the snowplough, s duct, and those rear wing cutouts to bleed air.

there's still innovation but it's less visually obvious now which, imo, makes it even more brilliant

not banned so much as made redundant. DRS made it pointless

also some teams made it so the driver would have to take their hand off the wheel which was dangerous

The FIA banned it on the grounds of safety, soon they saw the teams using one hand to drive and the other to cover the F-duct hole, it took 2.5 seconds for the FIA to ban it (and laugh maniacally because they could finally ban it muahahahaha).

Alonso was shown in replays using his left hand to block the DRS duct. Since he had to use his right hand to adjust the break bias that left no hands on the steering wheel. The FIA realized that this was making the device too dangerous. If all the teams had used a duct activated by the left leg it would have been safer, but it wasn't practical to cram it into an existing car. The point was proven though, stalling the rear wing helped the cars pass. So rather than make the F-duct, all all the associated complex pipe work, legal it made more sense to introduce DRS instead because it was just a flap in the rear wing that did the same thing but with a greater effect and significant less development cost. Plus significantly safer. Ross Brawn later commented that the DRS flap was worth 10x times more in helping cars pass than all the aero changes they introduced in 2009 combined. He admitted that none of the brilliant aero guys involved in the 2009 changes thought of just putting a flap in the rear wing, if they had they would have saved everyone a lot of trouble.

​@@darkalman I know all this, I'm just pointing out to the Autosport channel that their title is misleading.

It's public safety that is the problem. If a car going at 200mph goes off the track it's weight and volocity turn it into a large bullet causingall sorts of damage when it hits. Look at the crowd stands in Abu Dhabi, imagine an F1 at 200mph going over the fences into the crowd. Think of the law suits! F1 has to be safe for the audience as well as the drivers, so anything that makes the cars good faster and thus more dangerous has to be banned. Compromise. Make the cars go faster, put the crowd further back - 200m. All the crowd would see is coloured dots whizz past.

Back then in Ferrari not much was a good idea.

@@The_Curious_Cat arguably still a relevant statement for their current situation

Using the driver to manipulate a static fluid switch stems from a ban on movable aerodynamic surfaces (which would include air valves used for aerodynamic purposes). DRS is the same thing, but using a moving aerodynamic surface.

well, the 2022 cars have ground effect so we’re getting there

One hand on the F-duct and the other on twitter, while steering with his knee.

@@The_Curious_Cat Lol XD

Innovation is being creative in the way you interpret the rules. Just because the a rule says "the cars can only be black" doesn´t mean the teams can´t paint it in matte black to improve weight and by doing so, they are not doing anything illegal, just applying the rules in a different way.

Dont hate the playa', hate the game

They still do but it's not as visually obvious now.

Functionally yes, but the DRS is much better at it. Significantly cheaper, and arguably safer. The problem that led to the F-duct is F1 has a blanket rule than bans 'moveable aerodynamic devices' ie flaps in the wing. However at the time the driver was not considered as part of this rule, which is why a fluidic switch covered by the drivers leg/hand was legal. The F-duct is actually the reason they introduced DRS in the first place.

There is no traction control, abs, or active suspension there hasn't been for over a decade unless you mean the computers that control the fuel injection?

Jack Danny I suppose my comment is more of a melancholy lament. In the late sixties and seventies it seemed like there were a greater percentage of teams that could be competitive without needing the financial resources of a Boeing or Microsoft (a decent example was Rob Walkers efforts). One arena is engines. Although some companies always used their own power plants many others did quite well running the Cosworth DFV (this also helped level the playing field a bit). A company didn’t need access to wind tunnels and prohibitively expensive “main frame” computers to win races. Maybe I am being naive but I feel like there was a time when the driver made the difference (as in Stirling Moss-awesome driver largely competing in sub par British vehicles, but still winning races). Now it seems to me that you can take a good (not necessarily great) driver, put him in a dominant vehicle and the race is decided before it starts. The dominant vehicles now (and in fairness this isn’t a recent phenomena) are produced by companies with virtually unlimited developmental resources (super sophisticated computer designs), basically things that some companies don’t have and ultimately are forced to leave F1 because of this. So, my observation about “computers winning races” was more of a generic comment. I could be way off base here but to illustrate my point, I would suggest you could put several different drivers in the current Mercedes and they would win races in that car. However I doubt if the opposite is true. Could a Hamilton or Schumacher win a lot of races in mediocre vehicles today? I think not. And in my opinion “computers” play a huge part in this. Maybe all this is inevitable, but at least for me it seems like a big part of the drivers contribution has been reduced significantly. Just sayin’........

But before "WE ARE GOING O COPY IT! AND USING OUR HANDS! ROLFMAO!" then it doesn´t work as good as the original: "BAN IT NOW!".

That would be the thing that Adrian Newey designed for the Gran Turismo game- closed cockpit, active-everything, fan car. Does a bazillion kph and doesn't just drive o the ceiling; but chews the ceiling up and spits it out the rear, whilst opening spacetime rifts simultaneously...!!

L0L

Savage Sock it is pretty funny isn’t it! I didn’t think anybody would get the reference!

There needs to be rules for safety

@@PeRRXX NO.