Why the Racing Line Doesn’t Win Races
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Winning an F1 Championship requires more than clocking the fastest laps; It requires ”race craft,” which includes knowing when the racing line isn’t the key to victory. Today we're going to explain why the racing line isn't necessarily the best way to win a race.
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@lalaeez2063 2 роки тому
I prefer Forza racing lines where you go for the line that rams your opponent with utmost efficiency.
@SOLPIU 2 роки тому
And nfs shift too 😂
@318super98 2 роки тому
Its all about stealling their momentum as they take yours off the road 🤣🤣🤣
@protogaming4295 2 роки тому
Thats where the unimog comes in
@protogaming4295 2 роки тому
Also, 8 tires are better at braking than 4
@bwabbel 2 роки тому
@@protogaming4295 exactly what i'm saying 😂
@floijd 2 роки тому
Hammond: "On Paper, this is the faster car." Clarkson: "Yes, but on TARMAC it isn't."
@GogiTavadze 2 роки тому
What car it was about?
@233kosta 2 роки тому
The paper was clearly wrong then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Weird_Cat_Thingy 2 роки тому
@@yvngpanda3036 I can't remember if that's the Focus or Fiesta in America
@velvet_turtle7918 2 роки тому
@@Weird_Cat_Thingy it's the fusion
@KiraPlaysGuitar 2 роки тому
@@velvet_turtle7918 :(
@ronpinto9588 2 роки тому
When Senna first started racing in Europe, for an F3 team, a driver for the same team asked him how come, when it was raining, he drove in a different line than everyone else and still lapped at least one second faster than the rest. Senna explained to him that when the track was wet the usual racing line was covered in oil and rubber, making it much more slippery, which was why he would follow the line less used and was able to enjoy better grip than all others. I heard that the day after Senna died, in a Mexican TV show called "Caliente" where the host was interviewing people who, at one time or another" had had contact with Senna, and the explanation was given by a Mexican driver that drove for the first team Senna ever drove for in Europe.
@nicholascrow8133 2 роки тому
wet line vs dry line
@shaamilthattayil 2 роки тому
"...and I took the path less travelled by" Now where have I heard that before...🤔
@d35p0 2 роки тому
Max really learnt from this
@Someone25948 2 роки тому
This is common knowledge since the day people have been racing in the rain, Senna didn't discover this or anything
@Leon-ub8pe 2 роки тому
@@Someone25948 Senna hater lmao he never said Senna created did
@Jordiw00t 2 роки тому
Max Verstappens Brazil race in the wet is one of the perfect examples of adapting to the track conditions and choosing a different racing line.
@allensinho4 2 роки тому
Didn’t he say it was just because he could see better?
@ashham9183 2 роки тому
That drive from him is so fucking good
@alalal123421 2 роки тому
lewis 2008 silverstone was also crazy
@billymays4110 2 роки тому
Hamilton’s pole lap in Styria 2020
@degebeundebende993 2 роки тому
@@allensinho4 Both, rubber gets slippery when it's wet, so he didn't drive on the rubbered in part. And definitely, not as much spray and more downforce if you drive outside the traditional racing line. Not to forget, wet and dry lines are very common practice in racing, but since wet lines come across the dry (rubbered) line, there are tricky little slippery spots which make them hard to master. Both lewis and max are known to be good drivers in the wet, and a well known F1 champion once said that wet driving separates the good from the great. I don't know how informed you are and maybe I'm preaching to the choir here 🤷🏼♂️.
@Driver61 2 роки тому
Come and do some racing guys!
@Karan-nj2dk 2 роки тому
Great Scott! Didn't expect to find you here. I would like to hear your take on racecraft curbing ideal racing line (no pun intended), or sacrificing other conventional wisdoms about racing to gain track position. Your video on Verstappen's pace in wet touched upon this subject and it was eye-opening for a novice like me.
@Skimmary 2 роки тому
Favourite youtubers 🤙
@therrydicule 2 роки тому
They might do a LeMons race or something...
@gerardleary1885 2 роки тому
Driver61 and Uncle Jerry? Does it get better?
@stg607animations 2 роки тому
D R I V E R 6 1
@lexilex72 2 роки тому
"Winning isn't about following the racing line" *laughs in drag racing*
@shadowguy530 2 роки тому
@dobelheintz same
@BeyondSorrowYYY 2 роки тому
Hereby i declare war!
@0xsergy 2 роки тому
if theres no turns its just a highway. 1v1 rust
@alchemist6819 2 роки тому
@dobelheintz same
@TinoushGTR 2 роки тому
Anyone can drive on a straight line in an automatic.
@nancyzasimova2044 2 роки тому
I’m an artist and and an ex-racer and the perfect racing line concept is similar to when you draw stylised humans/animals. You need to be very familiar with the anatomy before you can stylise convincingly. Same with racing. You still need to know the perfect racing line of by heart to be able to adjust yours intuitively according to external conditions. This is exactly why coaches are always teaching newbies about the racing line in detail at first.
@RustOnWheels Рік тому
To become a master in arts one must master theory (and basics) first in order to deviate from (/ rise above) it as an artist.
@709mash Рік тому
Reminds me of Stanley Kubrick's saying: "Get the facts right, then distort at your pleasure."
@_..-.._..-.._ Рік тому
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@inno-v8-ion165 Рік тому
@@709mash I thought Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that? Either way, the statement is SO damn true
@versth Місяць тому
Ii@@RustOnWheels
@CYMotorsport 2 роки тому
6:40 good point: immediately thought of the bump at high Mirabeau in Monte Carlo where’s its best to slide right to keep grip despite it being overtly off the racing line albeit momentarily
@stare4539 2 роки тому
Fr
@sandalphoncpu 2 роки тому
“Why Racing Line Doesn’t Win Races” Me an intellectual: *cuts corners*
@JordanSVT 2 роки тому
Race: Has no check points Me: Cuts a straight line to the finish line
@THE_EXPERIMENTER 2 роки тому
How did you make it say 210 years ago?
@Starfighter-nk4mo 2 роки тому
@@THE_EXPERIMENTER That’s just his username
@Weird_Cat_Thingy 2 роки тому
Jimmy Broadbent: *punts them into the wall*
@stanleygarland1666 2 роки тому
and gets disqualified
@rizqirizaldo 2 роки тому
Jerry: slower, but fast? McQueen: turn left to turn right? This questions are the progenitor of legendary moments
@williammilliron8735 2 роки тому
"Turn RIGHT to go LEFT" but yeah I was thinking the same thing lol
@preston_vanderbilt 2 роки тому
Racing flat track motos in the Hooligan class for the first time… it just messed me up.
@californiapoontappa 2 роки тому
@@preston_vanderbilt but all motos turn on gyroscope you are always counter steering
@stg607animations 2 роки тому
Or ya know nuke the racers to win by default
@bog4240 2 роки тому
@@stg607animations not funny didn't laugh
@JamaaLS 2 роки тому
After yesterday's crash this is very revealing.
@a-peekgaming3544 2 роки тому
Lol yes
@luijazzpiano 2 роки тому
"Hamilton is a seven times world champion because of his racecraft...." The entire Engineering team "am I a joke for you? "
@Joran40 2 роки тому
@Kasper Hansen *literally the last driver to win the title without his team winning the constructors title*...
@crishealingvtuber8626 2 роки тому
@Kasper Hansen the engine is way worse and he is still arriving 4th? Please. You don't break records being an average driver with the best car.
@troll_486 2 роки тому
*literally that was 13 years ago*
@Orphen_ 2 роки тому
@@Joran40 Hamilton is a world champion because he is an amazing driver. He is a 7 times world champion because he got into the fastest car. However he got that seat because he is an amazing driver so... Yeah alot of it is on his own merit combined with some good timing on coming through and proving himself as a great driver. So for me there is no doubt that Hamilton is a great driver and one of the best on the grid over the past 13 years... However his team and the car he had surely contributed alot to him having all the successes that he had.
@Joran40 2 роки тому
@@troll_486 shows that it is a really hard feat to do
@felip0251 2 роки тому
"On a F1 track, most corners aren't simple arcs." Sochi: Hold my beer
@gamespot6002 2 роки тому
ok
@stap4811 2 роки тому
Keyword: most
@user-sc8sx6pb3i 2 роки тому
*Hold my vodka
@DaFifaKid 2 роки тому
congrats, now you realize what the word "most" means.
@Hick25 2 роки тому
they’re moving the russian gp track to a different one, hopefully be less boring of a race
@rmn3d 2 роки тому
Lewis Nolanton's gonna haunt me in my dreams for a few months
@drmaulana2600 2 роки тому
Also Jeremiah Webber
@DaveB432 2 роки тому
The Vettel merger scares me the most!
@randalllawkin 2 роки тому
Yeah that mug was ugly with that combo lol...not saying he is but you know, those.breads.
@TGears314 2 роки тому
Time stamp?
@JackFogos 2 роки тому
James PumpVettel is gonna give me nightmares too
@draganbalzic4493 2 роки тому
8:56 It’s very difficult to imagine a date in this lifetime in which Mazespinner would be defending against Hamilton.
@watersnortmoment3734 2 роки тому
Definitely not now
@mamavswild Рік тому
He didn’t want to use any of the other drivers who could be in that position’s name though, because then the driver’s fans would come down hard on him. I totally would have if he had used MY favorite driver’s name and made it seem like Ham could easily catch him.
@709mash Рік тому
Well he won't have that chance anymore 😉
@devlinkeenoy8716 Рік тому
maybe he doesn't want to get lapped
@UNiTEDDKSilent21 Рік тому
@@mamavswild This kinda just shows how you're an internet degenerate, getting mad at someone for saying something on the internet, how insane.
@SprintHillclimb 2 роки тому
this is quite funny after today
@joseriveracondori5367 2 роки тому
This been recomended to me TODAY 😳
@krankieboolean1340 2 роки тому
Hamilton won and drove faster and was able to pass cars that Bottas was unable to do.
@utr4_962 2 роки тому
"Hamilton saves his tires" Hamilton: Bono, my tyres are gone.
@muhammadnaufal6317 2 роки тому
Perez: yes..
@swapnilmankame 2 роки тому
Hamilton usually lies about tires to throw opponents off, all opponents are constantly listening on each other's radio thus have to speak in code. there was some mention about it in the behind the scenes video of red bull's HQ. (example he went radio silent when his tires were completely shredded and punctured in the last lap, yet he won with 3 wheels, google British Grand Prix 2020 Hamilton last lap)
@HandlesSuck123 2 роки тому
And then when Lewis' tyre are actually gone, like in Silverstone, Lewis doesn't complain...
@swapnilmankame 2 роки тому
@@dgogara New DTS fans don't seem to know it. its a rampant issue on Facebook
@eliasdawi2846 2 роки тому
@@HandlesSuck123 what are you talking about, all 4 tire were definitely completely fine :p
@AJKing8 2 роки тому
"Intertia over grip" but as Martin Brundle says it, "Ambition over Adhesion"
@zmalik8593 2 роки тому
He's got such a way with words
@dtremblay17 2 роки тому
Haha i love him!!
@mrbeans2425 2 роки тому
I LOVE that saying!
@richy2563 2 роки тому
This is such a fantastic explanation of various complicated concepts for amateurs to understand easily. Love that you guys are covering F1!
@chickenlampbrent 2 роки тому
My experience was amateur stock car at the local circuit for a few years. It was a quarter-mile oval but it was trickier than it looked and the line you took might depend on how hot it was that day. I did a lot of door handle to door handle racing with one guy in an eagle talon against my 4th gen Prelude. I could never pull ahead of him if he kept the inside line but if I waited behind him, I knew his car would push up to the wall toward the end of the race on his hot tires. Having a nice racing line is alright when you're not in a pack and you get the line you get. You just have to be a ruthless opportunist if you want to win and take things right to the knife edge of control and hold it there for the duration. There's a mental state and you have to be decisive on frighteningly short notice and make the right decisions more than wrong ones. Even so, you can be doing everything right and it can still all go pear-shaped. Then when you're rolled over and crashing with a dislocated limb and you realize you have absolutely nothing to say about what's happening, that's interesting. Your brain seems to speed up and you can process data very quickly and this distorts time. Fascinating.
@JoelRipke 2 роки тому
"[Lewis Hamilton] is a 7-time world champion because of his race craft" I think you triggered all "it's the car" people
@KG_Grandpa 2 роки тому
Russel showed that last season, but its not all car.
@milktar2182 2 роки тому
Calling it a race craft makes it sound like his car is a floating hover car (more commonly called a ship) that you would see in WipE'out"
@CS-yc6qp 2 роки тому
He’s a mathematical genius
@vichs8457 2 роки тому
75% car
@neovenom9833 2 роки тому
Imagine if his car was actually controlled from the pits. it would be the scandal of the century.😂
@JohnRidesMx 2 роки тому
Hamilton passing Mazespin? Yeah sure like I dont know my Drivers
@gepbalta 2 роки тому
He's passing Mazespin about 3 times/race. It's not that easy cause no one expecting him to defend his position while he's blue flagged, yet he does. :D
@ev17dan 2 роки тому
Did you forget Baku?
@stg607animations 2 роки тому
Mazespin be like: s🅱️innala
@Drew311Drew 2 роки тому
@@gepbalta Lewis can only pass lord Mazepin with blue flags
@th1nk_outside 2 роки тому
BLUE FLAGS. THIS GUY MAKES US LOSE THE POSITION!!!!!
@kippersgamingchannel937 2 роки тому
i learned about the out breaking strategy from initial d lol when takumi raced the r32
@breakinghabits_II 2 роки тому
I’ve had this video in my “watch later” list for a couple of months now. Glad I finally got around to watching. Funny AF and educational, too. You’d make a brilliant teacher
@s.willis8426 2 роки тому
I remember Michael Shumacher back in the day on a rainy GP, the rain broke with about 20 laps to go and many teams pulled into the pits to switch back to the dry tires but he stayed out and swerved to hit a few puddles on each lap to keep the rain tires cool enough to not degrade on the warming tarmac and finished on the rain tires (in first place). They were playing checkers, he was playing chess.
@Aj00047 10 місяців тому
He has most experience racing on worn down tires aswell….
@ordenax Місяць тому
To think that, in such little time is genius.
@sonydominates 2 роки тому
Dear editor, Breaking = something destroyed Braking = slowing something down
@TheOtherNeutrino 2 роки тому
For some drivers, the line is blurry.
@DexteruL 2 роки тому
@@TheOtherNeutrino Some drivers do break their tires when braking ... it's called a lockup...
@guccihorsepiss2406 2 роки тому
@@TheOtherNeutrino couch couch grosjean cough cough
@zeyzerx3722 2 роки тому
@@guccihorsepiss2406 OmmHGg GuySs GroSsJJEaaNN cRassHHH GettTT ITttTT? IM sO FunNy SiNnCe 2012
@StudioVRM 2 роки тому
@@TheOtherNeutrino For drivers like me, it's often both.
@nolanpeters5462 2 роки тому
2:30 is also a great example of how orbital velocity works. The ISS is literally balancing on the line of too much speed and not enough grip, or vice versa. Except grip is gravity.
@ntl9974 Рік тому
Just two balanced forces
@nolanpeters5462 Рік тому
@@ntl9974 perfectly balanced as all things should be. Hi r/unexpectedthanos
@silience4095 Рік тому
@@ntl9974 Two balanced forces? There's only 1 force acting on the ISS.
@silience4095 Рік тому
Eh, I wouldn't say it's that much of a balance. Going a little slow will result in your altitude dropping, which will increase your speed, making you go back up again. It's how elliptical orbits go. For the ISS to stay in orbit, they actually have a HUGE velocity range. Anywhere from escape velocity at their altitude, to deorbit velocity at their altitude. Of course they want to be in a specific orbit, but they still have some wiggle room. The ISS actually boosts itself periodically, to keep the orbit in check, because it still experiences some aerodynamic drag.
@nolanpeters5462 Рік тому
@@silience4095 the elliptical is balance
@RustOnWheels Рік тому
I’ve been watching Donut for several years now, I can remember when most comments were just haters because they still had to find their own style. But man how I love how this channel has grown and Jeremiah is bar none my absolute favorite UKpostsr when it comes to explaining technical stuff. This video only showed up in my feed today and it is absolutely compelling.
@polarpandaX 2 роки тому
8:14 "slow to go fast" has the same energy as doc telling McQueen Turn right to go left
@MrOscar5690 2 роки тому
I’m watching this as I play Gran Turismo 7.. When I get frustrated and start mashing the throttle I always have to remind myself “if I want to go fast, I have to slow down” My fiancé heard me say this to myself and she said that makes no sense Hahaha..
@marianorivera3272 2 роки тому
@@MrOscar5690 it actually makes a lot of sense. If you’re trying to do something fast, you’re constantly focusing on micro-correcting your snappy imputs. Doing something slower and steadier until the input becomes flawless instinctively is more efficient because you need to focus less on corrections of hasty inputs.
@MrOscar5690 2 роки тому
@@marianorivera3272 thanks.
@nathanjoseph4284 2 роки тому
Day 7 of asking for an Up to Speed on how Donut Media came to be
@locowaldo1542 2 роки тому
Day one of supporting this
@nathanjoseph4284 2 роки тому
Also can I humbly request some more muscle car love on Donut please? Or how about more B2B on "normal" cars (like non F1, like actual proper road cars)
@bobbydavy88 2 роки тому
Support initiated...
@Super_Black1 2 роки тому
this is a must
@aziackerman8985 2 роки тому
this one right here chief
@a1g0rhythm Рік тому
Glad you discussed the squared off corner @10:50 it works with lower class cars too. I pass in Wreakfest like this, you don't grind around the corner and have more acceleration distance, great for fwd or tail heavy rwd.
@jacobmartyniuk8001 2 роки тому
Really helpful video. I’m new to the sport and this was the most concise explanation of turning strategy I’ve heard yet.
@colevano 2 роки тому
Can Donut please finally teach the animator that it is spelled “braking point” and “brakes” not “breaking point” or “breaks.”
@GBduds 2 роки тому
Shows a graph and says braking point
@TGears314 2 роки тому
I said the same thing. 8:20 really bothered me. How many videos have had that error now?
@JoelRipke 2 роки тому
Well, it's Mazepin...
@j.seagle6867 2 роки тому
@@JoelRipke you have a good point there 🤣
@something7992 2 роки тому
Breaking point f1 2021 lol
@nickgehr6916 2 роки тому
Therapist: Lewis Nolanton isn't real Donut: Say sykes right now
@heronumbertwo3171 2 роки тому
r/youngpeopleyoutube
@OofThatsNice 2 роки тому
Under Appreciated comment right here
@stg607animations 2 роки тому
r/young people UKposts @Hero Number Two
@GanjaNinja 2 роки тому
@@heronumbertwo3171 Get out redditor!
@heronumbertwo3171 2 роки тому
@@GanjaNinja well if you think about it the thread used against me have indirectly made the comment popular
@Somerandom1922 2 роки тому
I always loved the idea of taking a deeper (theoretically slower) line to have a higher exit speed before a straight where you can use your higher speed to overtake someone who took the proper racing line.
@darylcline7624 2 місяці тому
I just started getting in to F1 racing and gaming. This video was an amazing intro in to it and why the racing line isn’t ideal. So glad I watched this before relying too much on it Great video man, I look forward to watching more of your content
@MexicanBagpiper96 2 роки тому
"Nolan Hamilton isn't real, he can't hurt you."
@Shimeih 2 роки тому
He just hurt me😭😭😭 Judging from your advice I’m sensing that you’re the type pf kid my mom told me to stay away from 😂😂😂
@homeless_kiddd7207 2 роки тому
Those photoshopped pictures makes Nolan look like he used a 65$ roll bar
@tourgasmsvt 2 роки тому
He looks like Jared Leto in Panic Room
@giuliocallegari9366 2 роки тому
This was very informative on racing strategies+physics, I'd love to see other
@nathanhighlander 2 роки тому
Love your video & the way you explaining it, Jeremiah! You & James. Awesome! 🌟 And to Donut Media - you have awesome guys here. And even one of them was on the podium. 😊
@joshuaw_270 2 роки тому
Throw all this out of the window when your on Gran Turismo and someone just decides to yeet you to the shadow realm.
@johnmay6432 2 роки тому
Shadow realm…I see you’re a man of culture. Super culture 👍
@Vinecars 2 роки тому
@@johnmay6432 Hello fellow viewer, he indeed is a man of culture.
@One21P 2 роки тому
Early braking. Late turns. Those rammers understand racing line to best hit you at maximum speed. Winning line always beats the racing line.
@MrPFMneto 2 роки тому
R4M_Shadow is out there to avenge us, brother! Don't bottle it just yet.
@brandonpratt5701 2 роки тому
“When in doubt, flat out.” -Colin McRae
@stefanocanzian9172 2 роки тому
Worst advice ever
@R4M_Tommy 2 роки тому
That's why he ALWAYS crashed
@cobbomusic 2 роки тому
doesnt quite work in road racing
@akashsarma8241 2 роки тому
Please don’t I am in my 3 rd bumper already
@pauloaz496 2 роки тому
Literally Kevin Magnussen
@tylerhoopes 2 роки тому
I love watching your commentary. It’s fun. It’s how I would tell a story. Thanks man for the hard work.
@tehangrybird345 2 роки тому
“All corners are different” Me: laughs in NASCAR oval
@johnnyracioppi 2 роки тому
laughs at Pocono
@superlight1999 2 роки тому
Nhra : laugh at quarter mile strip
@nerd888 2 роки тому
me: laughs in no car🥲
@pmmastiffs8763 2 роки тому
Years ago I had an old timer tell me “slow is smooth, smooth is fast”. It wasn’t able to understand that from an analytical standpoint until I felt it on my way to my first wins. Watch Hamilton drive, slow small changes and consistently fast lap times. Really wish I could explain verbally but the feeling is amazing!
@233kosta 2 роки тому
It's all about time scales. A sharp input is capable of momentarily exceeding the available grip, breaking static traction often in an unrecoverable way and sending you into a spin while taking a corner much slower than is otherwise possible. That old timer is 100% on point.
@mattevans1643 2 роки тому
That goes for many things in life. Being fast isn't fast, being smooth is fast. It's better to do things right the 1st time than to do it 2-3 times the wrong way.
@ibbeats5183 2 роки тому
I heard this when watching videos on how to get better at dirt rally 2.0 and instantly started doing better stages, it also carried over to playing F1. Started shaving whole seconds off my lap times that i was certain i couldnt top
@ntl9974 Рік тому
@@ibbeats5183 like zen right?
@ibbeats5183 Рік тому
@@ntl9974 youre thinking of flow state, which is where you are in a zone where you are unconscious and reacting purely on instinct while driving. Im describing the pedal inputs. The smoother youre feet can be going on/ off the throttle/brake the better. Hope i cant help mate
@SidewaysLoveJP 2 роки тому
“To me the ultimate line isn’t the motive, it’s merely the result!” - Dr. Joushima Toshiya AKA GodHand just minutes before puking his guts out
@alondjeckto 2 роки тому
His racing line produce to much earth forces
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 2 роки тому
@@alondjeckto 🤣👏
@teammusketeers 2 роки тому
😂😂😂u said it b4 i did @Godhand.... #godarm#initialD
@redporschekilla 2 роки тому
Jeremiah, you are one of the coolest "coaches" in the Donut world, well the others are great, but none brings the geek stuff over like you do..... Thanks for being that champ, can't wait for the next class!!! You rock man!!
@yungveilmusic9234 8 місяців тому
im a total noob in car culture. but this channel gives me life and teaches me whats good and whats meh thanks for the rotary engine history! that was my first delve into the culture and now im hooked cuz of yall. sending love!
@RonanNotRyan 2 роки тому
Mahaveer Raghunathan: *_"Y'know, I'm something of a Formula 1 driver myself..."_*
@kazefw3834 2 роки тому
The goat 🤣🤣
@ev17dan 2 роки тому
Our lord!
@shinra6856 2 роки тому
lord mahaveer does not need racing lines, the other drivers simply get out of the way when he's near
@umar02121 2 роки тому
That why king mazepin doesn’t follow lines he know he’s a champ
@harshitaseeja3290 2 роки тому
We mistook him for a bad driver, we should all apologize
@BigBadGato 2 роки тому
Mazepin races for the worst team in F1 and has never been on podium. Lol "Champ"
@cesardepena7498 2 роки тому
@@BigBadGato I don't think you know what a joke is, do you?
@guccihorsepiss2406 2 роки тому
@@cesardepena7498 I don't think that, I'm sure of that
@cesardepena7498 2 роки тому
@@guccihorsepiss2406 incase you did not know it is a joke
@mrch4nce 2 роки тому
If anyone watched Fernando hold off Hamilton at the Hungarian GP you saw a masterclass in race craft.
@alexlacl8730 2 роки тому
By both drivers
@royroy325 2 роки тому
Nice one for today HAM-MAX 👌 Silverstone '21
@hayyaananwar7856 2 роки тому
8:00 "suppose hamilton is behind mazepin" me: why only suppose when you can see it
@TheUSDebt 2 роки тому
I felt like this was a bad example since lapping a car should be pretty different than a regular overtake
@ailurusfulgens1849 2 роки тому
@@TheUSDebt he wasn't taking about lapping, he was just firing shots at Mazepin because that's what Donut Media has been doing lately. They could have taken Verstappen but then couldn't have said "He stays in the racing line for once".
@gamespot6002 2 роки тому
no
@sjhart14 2 роки тому
This was a great video. The discussion around toy models is exactly the sort of thing I learned in engineering school. Knowing when a model is a helpful tool but also recognizing its limitations and assumptions is something we grapple with all the time. You guys are getting better every week.
@thatlumberjack 2 роки тому
This was super useful information. Thank you so much!!!
@chrissomos5710 2 роки тому
Great video! Love the F1 content. Keep it going.
@barak181 2 роки тому
It's spelled, "braking." You break a stick in two. You brake when you want to slow down your car.
@madmaniacloony 2 роки тому
Breaking point is when you hit the breaks and they break so you take a break
@madbruv 2 роки тому
Braykink
@adnitesean5005 2 роки тому
Idk man, not my 1st language but i did check a translator Both spelled: "brāk" Edit: i thought everyone's talking about the pronunciation. Turns out it was the editor putting "breaking" instead of braking
@sweetssandbox3526 2 роки тому
if you are in a Haas it is spelled breaking because you broke the car hitting your teammate into the wall
@grim-ripa 2 роки тому
Nobody's perfect. Give the editor a brake 🤣
@bnl522 2 роки тому
3:47 Now that's a meme I've not heard in a long time
@shiratori88 2 роки тому
Do you remember what that cat meme was called
@DodgeViper92 2 роки тому
I'm glad I didn't have to scroll that far down for someone to mention it
@bnl522 2 роки тому
@@shiratori88 Dramatic chipmunk!
@asdasikdaisncxzinaskdnmf 2 роки тому
thanks for being so down to earth in your videos
@cavannanicolas 2 роки тому
Great video, so so so well explained! quality work here.
@Driftuner 2 роки тому
You forgot the most important rule: "if you dont go for a gap that exists..."
@aaronbustamante9282 2 роки тому
Takumi style
@nclparlade_random1179 2 роки тому
"...you are no longer a racing driver." Senna Sempre 🇧🇷
@nclparlade_random1179 2 роки тому
@@aaronbustamante9282 what
@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure 2 роки тому
"......you're gay." (No offense to LGBTQ community, I love gay people [P.S. I'm not gay])
@websterk451 2 роки тому
You're no longer a racing driver
@koreboredom4302 2 роки тому
You see three consecutive hairpins, I see a mid-air straight line.
@aurickbiswas8233 2 роки тому
Imagine if this was Shingo's dialogue for the hairpin section of Akina
@thatonecarguydirk4803 2 роки тому
Now THATS the Champion mindset 💯💯🤙🤙🙏🙏👊👊
@saileille 2 роки тому
They say you cut the course. You'll have to slow down and give up the time gained.
@uddinrokib7 2 роки тому
What a yolk! You are not allowed to cut the chicken.
@rienezukana 2 роки тому
IROHAZAKA JUMP!
@timothyjudsontaylorofficia9786 6 місяців тому
Great info. Much apreciated!
@anthonydunne932 2 роки тому
Excellent insights and I taught i knew all to know.. Well done 👏✔
@jammin0792 2 роки тому
It's good to know that all corners are beautiful to Jeremiah, not just the ones with increasing radii. Thank you Jerry, thank you for your acceptance
@iasaacglendale558 2 роки тому
alternate title: Why the line doesn't win races and Hamilton does.
@MeltingRubberZ28 2 роки тому
Except the last four in a row
@sandblockz7342 2 роки тому
@@MeltingRubberZ28 he forgot
@ashleyrocke6009 2 роки тому
@@sandblockz7342 I think you have forgotten the past 7 Seasons, but ok...
@SamuelSantos_ 2 роки тому
F
@lecrocodile5651 2 роки тому
Hamilton racing line™ like in Bahrain
@Customsbymlm Рік тому
Jeremiah you should do more F1 videos they are all awesome and very informative
@bscutajar 11 місяців тому
The image at 2:14 is completely wrong. The grip arrow should be pointed down not to the side... and when speeding up the inertia increases but the larger radius should decrease it again. The grip remains the same magnitude and pointing down, because we are assuming the maximum centripetal force the tyres can provide. When both are equal and opposite the car stays in the same radial position.
@tapsmorer7415 2 роки тому
Hamilton after watching the video: "so you see.. My tires are gone"
@101jir 2 роки тому
"Toy model," I need to remember that term! I always wondered why in games you are given the same racing line regardless of your engine/transmission layout.
@233kosta 2 роки тому
It's a polite term for a model so wrong you're best off ignoring.
@101jir 2 роки тому
@@233kosta Thanks for the clarification
@mobius7745 2 роки тому
In games not only the racing line is trash compared to a full blown complex geometric line, it also doesn't adapt to anything other than the breaking points being usually based on your speed, so it's worse than a geometric line and worse than a "winning line"
@Volkain10 2 роки тому
@@mobius7745 still useful aslong as you acknowledge it’s not the best/only way around a track. I like to use it at tracks that don’t have a good break marker
@cameronwebster6866 2 роки тому
I’ve also heard “spherical cow model” in reference to a joke where a farmer is having problems with his cows, so contacts a university for help, and after examining the problem and deliberating, the university announces they have a solution, but it only works for a spherical cow in a vacuum.
@capyyy-_- Рік тому
I love your intro. Funny, hooks you in, and clearly made by a person of culture.
@AH-mq9fn 2 роки тому
Great job, your subject themes are spot on.
@garrettsmith419 2 роки тому
You completely forgot to account for Mazepin spinning out around the corner
@slowdriver6868 2 роки тому
Nah bro he just exploiting the secret "extreme slip angle" technique
@justincase9033 2 роки тому
And the blue flag for mazepin
@bukwok 2 роки тому
mazespin.
@robingrevenstuk8673 2 роки тому
@@bukwok fidgetspinner*
@aydankhaliq2967 2 роки тому
Tsunoda has spun as much as mazepin.
@davidkelly6011 2 роки тому
Love these videos boys. This f1 content is top notch
@bentoombs 2 роки тому
Loved this, and all your guys videos. Is there any way that you can do a video on Sprint boat racing? And show the world how much fun we have. A 13' aluminum boat that has a roll bar and a Chevy V8 with a pump that squirts a ton. Look up webb's slew or anything Australia or New Zealand. Peace and thank you🤘
@stillplana 2 роки тому
Dominic Toretto: The only thing you need is family.
@drmaulana2600 2 роки тому
Fambly
@camogap7392 2 роки тому
Family helps in doing a wheelie and a burnout at the same time lol
@axel3895 2 роки тому
And 20 speed manual gear box
@stillplana 2 роки тому
@@axel3895 😂😂😂😂
@fajaradi1223 2 роки тому
@@axel3895 You're a shifty... Gearbox
@neilneilorangepeel 2 роки тому
“Breaking point” is that the same as a Braking point? Or is it where the car breaks down? 😂
@enKrypt 2 роки тому
I think Hamilton found the "breaking point" at Baku.
@elfenixnight 2 роки тому
we were talking about mazepin, so breaking is correct.
@zwenkwiel816 2 роки тому
It's a sequel to point break
@4cylindersoffury252 2 роки тому
No one mentioned Williams.
@chaitanyarao5546 2 роки тому
@@enKrypt I hope you remember that this is a marathon and not a sprint
@mobile_plays2853 2 роки тому
Donut Media: Racing lines don't win races. Trackmania players: hold my beer
@nenedecaramelo 2 роки тому
At 2:15 talking about inertia. Inertia is a forward motion continuing in a straight line but he is pointing to the outside of the circle and I believe that is called centrifugal force.
@AvAfanfromfrance 2 роки тому
I remember when Donut was a starting channel, and now I realize how much progress has been made. After all this time, there's still room for interesting subjects, with better and better production. Well done guys, there are a lot of channels that need to get up to speed
@PaganiGaming 2 роки тому
Day 385 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
@Xanderboof 2 роки тому
One day…
@Xanderboof 2 роки тому
@TheNoobGamer honestly. he’s the only day x of that I care about haha
@shaulstrait4313 2 роки тому
It seems a bit too personal a thing to talk about to millions of people
@spaghettiman2.052 2 роки тому
Day 134 of supporting PaganiGaming
@niksperience 2 роки тому
Stay well Mr. PaganiGaming
@The_Opinion_of_Matt 2 роки тому
Excellent video, you guys covered a lot! Unfortunately I didn't learn any thing new. You mentioned the sun moving and thus moving where shade hits the track, heating the track up and cooling it down in spots as the sun moves (or rather the earth rotates). Clouds do this too, which brings me to wind. Yeah, you forgot wind. A tailwind can add speed on a straight resulting in a higher top speed and the tailwind can increase braking distances because it is pushing the car. Conversely a head wind will do the opposite, decreasing top speed, but also decreasing braking distance. Adjust you braking point as needed. Also, as discussed in Indy 500 coverage the wind can affect cornering. If you are driving at the edge of a car's grip a wind coming from the inside of a corner can push the car wide. Conversely, wind coming from the outside of a corner can help hold a car on the line, which means the corner can be taken faster if there is wind coming from the outside, but slower if from the inside. Second, and this may blow your mind, you know how we have differentials because the inside tire follows a shorter path around a corner than the outside tire and so the tires need to be able to turn different (differential, ehh, ehh) speeds. Well, this happens across the tires contact patch as well. The inner edge of a given tire will follow a shorter path than the outer edge of the same tire. Since they cannot turn different speeds most of a tire is slipping a little bit in every corner and what parts are slipping or gripping comes down to weight transfer. Next, the fastest a car can go is determined by tire grip. But, depending on the tire, there is a small window beyond 10/10ths of tire grip where the car can go faster and still maintain control. Drag racers will launch their car with the tires spinning ever so slightly because of this and the window between grippy slow and smokey slow is ever so narrow. This is also why Senna was the greatest, he was willing and able to use this window between grip and slip more effectively than most. Michael Schumacher was very good at this as well. Lastly, late apex is my favorite apex.
@bossd3815 2 роки тому
"Because he's braking further into the corner, he can apply brakes later on the straight, that makes us a good line for outbraking an opponent and passing. Also, because he's braking later, he's spending longer on the power and reaching higher speeds on the straights. That also result in a sharper turn and late apex, the car is pointed straight earlier in the corner so full throttle acceleration happens earlier on the straights, leading to even higher speeds" Otherwise great video, but what was that passage? :D You can't have all those things at the same time! Either you brake late, which will give you advantage on corner entry, that can be used to block someone you were passing and take his position, but getting late apex means you actually point your car straight later, start accelerating later, sacrificing your speed on the next straight to pull this move. Or you can do otherwise, sacrificing your corner for better exit and more speed on the straight - could be a legitimate defensive tactics if you have someone in DRS range, but not close enough to pass you in that corner. And you can do neither for tyre saving, you will always have to brake more than you need to, turn in slower than you can, but if you have to do so and have a significant gap behind, using second option for corner line is definetley smarter, since bad corner exit and bad straight line speed loses you more time overall, than non-opnimal line through a corner.
@MrPFMneto 2 роки тому
Yes, it sounded a bit off when I heard it... Thank you for clearing that out.
@chilibeer3912 2 роки тому
Fortunately Hamilton won’t have to worry as much about racing lines with Mazepin because of blue flags. Then again Mazepin doesn’t respect blue flags any more than he does women
@sammy8796 2 роки тому
Goteeem
@Hempujonsito 2 роки тому
based Mazepimp showing hoes their places
@mangalutv2928 2 роки тому
He probably smashed that girl and youre out here tryna defend her honor
@JohnWyck 2 роки тому
@@mangalutv2928 Exactly. The girl even defended him publicly. That's why he still has a seat.
@jacobhanekamp2534 2 роки тому
Dang that was smooth
@web_jar6630 2 роки тому
It's so fun to see F1 stuff on Donut Media! The 'psychology of racing' mentioned in the beginning of the video got me thinking about this year's F1 championship and the performance that Red Bulls are showing leaving Mercedes AMG team under immense pressure. The fight between them, both on and off track is going to be intense!!
@scarzx73 2 роки тому
It is intense
@f1champ551 2 роки тому
And I can also see why the TV ratings see as such when it comes to F1.
@RustOnWheels Рік тому
This aged quite well.
@soarabove337 11 місяців тому
First vid of yours that I've liked, Donut. A worthy watch. 🤙🏁 Can you take on the challenge of the same topic with oval racing & in particular, focus on the vast lengths of the races? My - and I suppose other - non-mathematical/-geometrical minds could consume it... if it were even possible to provide this type of analysis re: ovals in the first place (due to the high math of loooong lengths of races + far less variance in speed / tire side loading from lack of any braking at all, let alone straight line vs. lateral tire scrub). Excellent work here!
@marksaris7249 2 роки тому
It’s always like getting a little PHD lesson in whatever he’s talking about. I love it!
@jetostake 2 роки тому
that "Breaking" Point distracted me.
@Fenolmenon 2 роки тому
Me too... I came here to comment that I hope that's not where the cars break!!
@thromboid 2 роки тому
I guess it is the point at which the car breaks from the straight racing line, but that's being charitable... :)
@kylelargin9528 2 роки тому
Up to speed on Garrett, I would love to know how the biggest name in turbochargers came to be
@jj02mc27 2 роки тому
Or Up to Speed on Bilstein, the shock masters
@kazefw3834 2 роки тому
Or Up To Speed on Brembo
@TurbhoeHDRemix 2 роки тому
Borg Warner?
@MadMatty72 2 роки тому
Really well explained dude, I'm impressed!
@TheF8ofN8 2 роки тому
0:59 my heart stopped for a second.... he was actually calling out all the Nathaniel/Nathaneal out there 😂😂
@salarzareghalehcheh 2 роки тому
pls make a "up to speed: everything you need to know about Peugeot" like if you agree 👍
@Crispy656forever 2 роки тому
They really forgot about them damn
@salarzareghalehcheh 2 роки тому
@@Crispy656forever the irritating fact is that this channel is no more entertaining it used to be... just buying stuff from ebay and testing them and talking about car accessories is not the thing I would wait from donut media the only thing satisfying about here is actually their miata and e36 build nothing else *MAKE DONUT MEDIA GREAT AGAIN* @DONUTMEDIA
@eliasdawi2846 2 роки тому
love that these vids are detailed enough for people with pre knowledge of this stuff, but still understandable for people with a simpler understanding of physics, etc. and keep up the f1 content :D
@Philoreason 2 роки тому
I think the sharp turning line has more to do with leveraging the insane straight line braking and acceleration of race car. By braking late and hard, then turn the nose of your car quickly to set up for an explosive straight line exit you basically ended up faster overall than following the ideal racing line which assumes constant velocity. Nvm, you explained it at 11:58! Great
@vinayneilpanda5639 2 роки тому
Silverstone 2021 wants to know your location
@brianbethea3069 2 роки тому
0:10 Can we just take a moment to appreciate how incredible this teacher's handwriting is? Absolutely gorgeous.
@takomeex8003 2 роки тому
"All I think about is using my tires to the fullest and having a good race. [...]If you fully utilize your tires, then no matter what line you take it won't make much difference in racing time. [...] To me, the ideal racing line is not to be sought. It is nothing more than a result!" -Jōshima Toshiya
@oogafoo Місяць тому
i play a ton of sims and sometimes i'll turn the lines on to see what the game recommends and they're not always good. the first corner on spa is a good example i have my optional lines and then lines i use when challenging for position. normally i'm slow in fast out but sometimes i'm fast in to take the inside, blocking the person i'm jockeying for position
@bestopinion9257 Рік тому
Late apex if the next is long acceleration section, early apex if the opposite - next near slower corner. The reason for late apex is that it offers a longer acceleration period which is useful, well, on long acceleration section. It is suitable on tight corners, like a hairpin followed by a long straight. So it is not like Hamilton (or whatever) does it in every corner. :)
@tsino2966 2 роки тому
I remember when F1 cars weren't so long and wide that fighting and defending for position was exciting. The cars were nimble and microturns didn't almost always cause oversteer or crashes in some cases.
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