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so basically, half life 3 will never come until valve comes up with some kind innovation that it can use half life to demonstrate

Fun fact, when Gabe worked at Microsoft, he was a producer for Windows 1, 2.0, 2.1, and then left right before Windows 3...

What makes valve so good is because its a private company and the head of everything is a gamer by heart

Whenever the number 3 is mentioned, Gabe feels a unmeasurable amount of pain.

I believe Valve's jump from games to hardware was absolutely necessary because it brought fourth a new era of handheld gaming. The Steam Deck was a HUGE push to make other companies pop up and develop handhelds besides just Nintendo and I think that technology wouldn't have advanced as fast without it.

1. Valve co-developed Left 4 Dead with Turtle Rock Studios, they committed roughly 100 staff members to its development and were involved throughout its life cycle. To say it was made by Turtle Rock is inaccurate. 2. Portal is a Valve original product, it just uses a mechanic from Narbacular Drop. That doesn't stop it from very much being a Valve game through and through.

A good way to summarize what Steam did for Valve. Literally gave them a life time of money to spend all the time they need on projects. No rush to release games on a time or have publishers breathe down their neck.

I think the scarcity is part of what makes Valve's games so good. They're not being forced to develop a game they don't want to produce. The fact that they can produce it on their own time, especially when they get to flex their latest innovations in games technology, seems to be what gives Valve games their polish and loved jank. On top of that, you'd get bored of it if a Half-Life game was released every year.

I looked at your channel icon and thought Valve was uploading a video on why they don’t make games anymore, which just seems like something they would just do, which makes it even better 🤣

Valve games are always fun to play, i still find myself playing some of them from time to time

I've been taking notes and I finally got it! We gotta make Half Life 3 by ourselves and wait for Valve to hire us!!!!!!

The way i see it, the Entropy: Zero 2 team has a good chance of getting hired by valve. If you dont know what that is, its a half life 2 mod which tries to evolve the story and push the narative of the game. Its the closes thing to a 3rd part of the game and i truly believe that they have a chance of being hired or atleast noticed because they really made a fantastic mod which feels like a separate game.

I think the main things that makes valve so good is that they just know their customers better than anyone else, they are willing to do things just for the sake of making things better for the consumer and they try to add or improve things that you didn't even know you needed. For example, a relatively recent update added some new features in the steam overlay such as being able to take notes while playing or pinning windows to show in game, this is something I think most people wouldn't think they would need until it's there and they realise how convenient it is, but this directly doesn't make them any money. They do what they can to improve their service as much as possible because they know by providing the best service with the best features for their consumers they will end up making more money.

Having a revenue outside of making games (Steam) helps them to stay profitable without having to resort to making games every year, a privilege which other game publishers doesn't have

Steam is by far the most overlooked thing in Modern Gaming. Just last night I was preparing for a Test in my computer and without my permission, the Epic Games launcher starts updating fortnite automatically, causing all my files to hang so bad. Sometimes you just don’t know how good a thing is when you used a different product

Never played Half-Life before. Literally tried it last year. I have no idea how they did it but I haven't had this much fun gaming in a long ass time.

Valve is focusing on making Windows Compatibility Tools for Unix and Unix-like systems since 2012. They're the ones who made gaming on Unix systems as good (sometimes even better, for example; Dying Light on Laptops) than gaming on Windows because theyve made Proton and contribute money and code to the Wine project. Windows Compatiblilty Tools help devs and unix gamers, so, I assume when they perfect that in a couple of years (hoping that microsoft doesnt make a big change in their NT Kernel), well most likely be seeing Half Life 3.

If Half Life 3 comes out, it'll be an even bigger anticipation of a game then Cyberpunk or GTA VI combines. Probably. Who knows what would happen to the internet if Valve out of nowhere dropped even a small teaser for Half Life 3.

I think the part where Valve let the community do it for them is a little misleading, they really work and create the titles, sometimes changing almost everything in the project (this is the case of Portal, the only thing from the original project is you go through a portal and exit another). One good example is that Turtle rock studio claims they are the creators of Left 4 Dead, but if you count how much employees Valve had in Left 4 Dead, you could easily say its a Valve game, loved by players and commercial success. When you compare to what games Turtle Rock did alone after they split with Valve, only commercial failures (Evolve and Back 4 Blood). I think the best way to put it that Valve sees the potential in other developers work, hire them and work together to bring something amazing.

I can't believe you forgot Valve's greatest game Ricochet

To my memory, Gabe has been partaking in neurological research and its connection with gaming. Considering Valve seems to only make games when it's innovative (HL1, HL Alyx on VR) I think HL3 will incorporate VR with controller-less gameplay. Why use your hands when you can use your brain? I figure Gabe wants to make the first true alternate reality experience, straight out of a dystopian future. Amazing.

Im pretty sure Valve has tons of tech demo's and proof of concepts inside their doors, they just wont work it out or release anything they deem unfit for Valve's reputation. They care about games still, but they are really careful with their brand.

It needs to be said that they don't just "buy successful games": L4D got improved immensely through valve playtesting and staff, as demonstrated by Back4Blood, which had no valve support.

It's not just the technoiogy that made Half Life top the charts, it was it's over-the-top storytelling and intricate world concept, that even at 50%, it'll make a lot of AAA titles today look like an episode from Sesame Street.

Nailed it at the end. Valve became a massive business after being a platform. Steam no longer has an unfair advantage with platforms like Blizzard, Epic Games and more creating their own alternatives. That's why I think them going into hardware is a way for them to become a dominating platform again (Steam Deck, VR, etc)

They can take all time that they need. We came to such state when we are actually not waiting for anything from them but when they release something, I know it'll worth my time and money because well.. it's Valve. Valve never ever released an awful game. Every their game is precious and will find its fans.

The owner of Valve is living his dream. He and his team created revolutionary game titles several times, created a platform for gamers to buy and communicate with one another, and then released their very own console. This is the literal definition of growth. He’s slowly becoming the guy who created Gregarious Games in Ready Player One. Half-life 3 was a sacrifice for innovation to be made and if we never get another Valve title so that the industry can be steered in the correct direction by actual gamers, then I'm with it.

Love your videos man! I think we have a lot in common and half life was absolutely before and after in gaming.

Valve decided a long time ago they wouldn't make a new game until they could truly change the landscape of gaming. Got to a point where the hardware wasn't allowing that. So time to make hardware.

The world can not end as long as Half-Life 3 hasn't released so Valve is actually just keeping the world alive

hey!what is the first 2 trailesr you used in the vidio?i really want to know!

People keep saying Valve doesn't make new games and then they released Alyx. Merely 2 years later all of that just come back again lmao.

In my eyes, as far as Valve games are concerned, in my eyes, Valve can do no wrong. They've pumped out timeless classics I'll be playing quite literally until I'm no longer on this planet or I'm not physically able to game anymore. Their games, most notably the Left 4 Dead and Half Life series have such a special place in my heart. God bless the studio and this team.

OMG Bro that screenshot of Valves webpage from 2003. The nostalgia of just seeing that nasty green theme. Now I have to see if I can change stemes current theme to the OG for the feels lmfao

What font is used for the title Counter strike in this frame? 2:27

There are always multiple answers to this but one of them is probably the Steam revenue. From my view, I see they are trying to maintain the steam platform by supporting the community on their platform and capture newer potential market outside of window. That is why the steam deck exists and so is Steam OS which is build upon Arch Linux, a distribution of Linux. Since window now has multiple competitors like the Epic Games Store for an example. I don’t know, this was just my opinion.

Valve followed a similar path as ILM. Instead of just showcasing special effects in Lucas films, they established themselves as a special effects house and sold them to anyone that could afford the technology in their movie. In doing so it also spawned other studios and helped create thriving special effects industry. VGalve can make infinitely more money as a software distributor than they would ever make as a game studio. It also gives them money to take on any project they would like without worry about deadlines that currently plague the industry with subpar games on release.

A bit of a correction, they get 30% off of every sale not just every game. DLC in such as well

Nearly all valve games are instant classics. They have more "classics" than multiple companies combined. And i think they want to keep it that way. Especially with their crowning achievement being the Half-life games, pushing boundaries and setting new standards with each release

The fact that half life 3 will come out only if there is a big pivotal point in gaming as now they only release stuff from the half life universe once they are aware that a new set of hardware is easily able to be able to consumers makes me think they already have an idea on what a potential half life 3, portal 3 or even tf3 could look like. The only thing stopping them is we haven't reached a nother pivotal point in gaming history for them to want to release one.

Valve doesnt make a new game mostly a half life game until they know that said game will push the limits on gaming. Half life 1 pushed fps games as a whole. Half life 2 showed off game physics possibilities. And most recently half life alyx which showed that vr games have potential to be just as good as flatscreen. I hate to say it as i loved the half life games but half life is kinda a glorified tech demo. Pushing/showing game advancements

Playing HL2 right now. Gordan's escape from the city in the boat is a brilliant sequence. Valve paces their games without overdoing or undercutting anything. I smile every time I see the factory smoke stack crash into the water.

2:44 tbf Literally like 95% of the developers were from Valve. Back4Blood shows that much.

All valve game developers is stuck at updating CS2 to the high standards of its community

Actually🤓 Left 4 dead was originally a mod for counter strike called "terror strike" it was just bots with knives but valve thought it was that fun they hired turtle rock studios who originally had worked on the bots for cs and had the idea for left 4 dead. Then they helped them improve the bots AI and help them craft a full game around it.

I'd like to believe that Gabe's strategy is to create awesome and affordable hardware like the deck to make tons of money and then advance technology further. After that, Valve would have capable hardware to run the next gen engine on which HL3, and possibly other games, would be built on. A guy could only dream... I just finished the video and... yeah

Valve also give out quite a bit of money to Linux developers from Kernel development to the KDE Desktop. I have a feeling they are going to release more Linux devices, probably have another go at a console like PC, it would make a lot of sense a lot of people are put off with PC due to having to deal with the OS. An added benefit is much of the stuff just runs better under Linux, it's getting to be a joke now compatibility layers run games with less stutter than actual Windows which is insane. Thanks Valve.

I am currently playing playing half life alyx and its by far the best vr game .

Half-Life 3 was officially canceled in 2015 which is why the story writer came out with epistile 3 in 2017 due to frustration. That is the closest we will ever get to an official continuance of the series other than alyx

Good games and hardware take time to make .They are in the lucky position that they don't have to rush anything out or compromise to keep the lights on. It wasn't a surprise to me when the released Half-life Alyx as a VR game for the launch of the Index and It is likely that they will release something for the Deckard. Maybe not on lauch but its likely they are working on something. I recon they will release something next year to co inside with apples new vr project, there headset would be in the sweet spot for PC VR enthusiasts between the expensive apple product and the low spec quest3 light.

I personally don't think the need for technology innovations will be necessary for them to make new games forever, and I don't think they've lost interest in being games developers entirely. What I do think is that Valve is at a little bit of an awkward spot in their growth as a company. The direction they seem to be moving in is to carve out their own place in the industry. They don't just want to be making games, they want to be making the hardware those games are played on. They want to be more like Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo, but on an even bigger scale. Valve seems to be moving in the direction of not just existing on the PC games market, but being the hardware manufacturer for the PC's themselves. That's what the Steam Deck basically is; a portable handheld gaming PC. Once Valve has comfortably reached the point where they have reached their place in the hardware market, my speculation is that we will start to see a bit more of a trickle of games coming out again. Not a sudden surge like the floodgates opening or anything like that, but something of an end to the drought nonetheless, and all of these games will be made with Valve's own hardware in mind.

I mean, they released HL Alyx 3 years ago and have since been working one multipe titles: CS2, Neon prime and HLX (which according to recent rumors might be a sequel to HL Alyx and will be released with the Deckard).

Makes sense. Remember that tiny Portal spin-off they made to help introduce the steam deck?

I remember when I see theme on forum about "When HL3 will release". With vote 3 option - 2007, 2008 and 2009. And I see it at 2009 and think, "nah, maybe 2011 or something" :D

nice editing, very well made video

I wish more people acknowledged source filmmaker, there is still nothing quite like it, and as a kid I would watch so many sfm shorts.

Every Company that sees the first billion dollars is gonna get "lazy". Valve is no exception. If they were true and honest "Gamers" actually caring about games, whether they work on other projects or not, they could atleast give "their" games an Update/Fix or something for a breath of fresh air. Best example: TF2's current situation. Bots, cheaters, a few bugs here and there, weapon balancing. Same with CSGO's cheater problem. VAC isn't up to date anymore. I hope they go back to the roots and approach these issues on the games which made them famous in the first place... Even if Steam makes them billions every year...

´´They won´t make it just to make it´´ is a very nice way to put it, its somehow comforting that there is still game company out there that doesn´t massively produce games just because they can. This makes every valve game a classic which you can´t say about most of games.

"We use to make games, now we make money."

I think they should try nonuclidian geometry. That might be the big enough push

So... We just need to find or create innovative technology and give to Valve so they will make new game (probably HL related) to promote that tech.

My hopes for a portal 3 is very high. I guess the team at valve have said that have a decent idea of what to do for a new game in the series tho I’m not sure if that information came out before desk job came out or after..I really pray for portal 3 to come out.

I remember when Half Life came out... There was nothing like it. From the opening moments it was clear I was experiencing something special and revolutionary.

fun fact: uncle gabe is actually one of the first trying brain interfaces in the hope to put it in hardware... this stuff is from a decade ago but imagine valve releasing a vr headset that can do everything without controllers..

Valve needs to make another VR game, Half Life Alyx was good but it was the skin of the apple, it not even scratched the surface of what VR is capable of. It was a great game and the best VR has to offer as of now but there are so many things it could expand on that would yet again change how players view VR.

In terms of Half-Life 3, I think we're actually closer than so many people realize. I think the next innovation Valve is gonna start pushing is probably AI in their games (for NPCs or their game director) or a Linux based distro as a standalone OS for their users. I think either of those things will 100% come with a HL3 and most likely in the next 2-3 years. I would not be surprised if Valve is looking into utilizing AI to make more believable NPCs and an OS designed to free up enough resources to give that theoretical AI the best chance at working.

Valve even created the first battlepass system ever lol , i think they just want to make something that will remarkable.

They literally dropped counter strike 2 a few weeks ago lol

A valve can be rusted by steam.

I had an email conversation with Gabe about a year ago. We talked about the future of VR, and apparently he’s really interested in pursuing brain-computer interfaces. I’m guessing that a proper BCI experience is his baseline for HL3. We are still a long way from that tech though.

well one could argue that they still do. its true they might be focusing more on hardware at the moment, but half life alyx came out fairly recently for a valve game and the latest counter strike to modernise it. i would say they arent as active as in the tf2 or l4d days but they are still working on games and other projects. half life alyx - Final hours is a good thing to look at to see the projects that they had going on in 2020 edit: well with source 2 that came out recently, i wouldnt understand why they would make a new engine without the idea of new games

Left 4 dead 3 would be so legendary, and half life Alyx exists soooo

Valve's likely product path. 1. Steam Deck (portable high-end graphics) - DONE 2. Wireless VR Headset akin to Apple Pro quality (light weight, processing streamed from the steam deck) 3. Orange Cube (Half Life 3 VR, Team Fortress 3 VR, Portal 3 VR)

I'm at the point I don't care about innovation or some sort of next gen engine, platform, etc for half-life 3. Hell I'll even jump on a printed script of the story if they never even make a game. I'm just tired of waiting decades for a story to be wrapped up. It's like going to the super market and constantly seeing your favorite food not being sold because the store wants to give you the "freshest quality". At first it seems reasonable, but after time and time again of being promised and never getting delivered. For example; Duke Nukem Forever. Waited years for that game and even though it wasn't the best I still enjoyed it as a fan and am happy that it got published. Was it as good as it was supposed to be? No, but that's because the devs kept scrapping the project because they wanted to do the same thing as Valve which is to make it with new updated tech. I appreciate the developers putting fans in their minds for a product but they also need to see that fans aren't too choosy when it comes to getting sequels. tldr; I NEED HL3

Speaking as someone who spent time in the game industry both as a studio and indie dev, considering all the turmoil as of late with studio shutdowns and IPs being canned, Valve should put some of their money into making a "Steam for game devs", a way for small / indie studios to be able to fund their projects. It would create an even bigger market of games for Valve to sell on Steam, and would help ensure the industry doesn't create miserable living conditions for the people actually working on the games.

not to be that guy but gmod isnt a valve game

Valve isn't a game company, but a software company.. They just so happen to be amazing at making games

I think half life 3 will be VR related and they will probably want a glove type control piece and maybe some for the feet. They want to leap forward not baby stems seeing as steam is them. I really believe they have gone as far as they can go with first person shooters. I think steam really wants to do something like "ready player one". Something like a full body suit that's like the movie industry that could track the complete body. That way character creation could be a huge part of the game maybe something like cyberpunk could benefit from that. I imagine a game where you're able to do near limitless motion in a space to control the game. I think the ultimate goal is a body tracking system for all VR games and could be the next valve half life game.

0:40 August 1996. same time team fortress was founded 2 collage student robin walker & john cook in australia.

dont forget the company culture that the higher ups have set in stone is a big factor in the lack of new games "its easier and safer to sit back and have steam bring in the big bucks than to actually make a new game" im honestly astounded Half-life Alyx even came out with how much the top dogs were against making it

My money is on AI integration. If you've seen the Skyrim mod that uses ChatGPT to implement improv conversations, then you can imagine what a fully socially interactive Half-life 3 could look like.

Didn’t valve make aperture desk job though? That was like a year ago but still.

Honestly, Steam gives them a huge advantage of they ever make Portal 3 or HL3 etc etc...given how much they get from the platform, they have damn near endless funding for game development. Honestly I think that's why the overwhelming majority of their games are a hit. Aside from hiring talented developers, the teams are given as I said relatively unlimited funding.

I honestly consider Half-life 3 to be a worthy sacrifice for the massive improvements Valve has made to PC gaming as a whole. Remote Play Together adds online play to games that never supported online multiplayer. As long as the game has two players, you can play it online because of Steam. Steam Input brings gamepad support to every game on Steam, and makes them customizable to a degree that gives even cheap controllers premium features. Because of the Deck, Big Picture Mode is now essentially a fully fledged console OS. You can set up a living room gaming machine and the only thing you have to do to have a fully functional front-end is install Steam. Proton has made it so I don't even check compatibility for games before I buy them anymore, I honestly just forget that I'm using Linux and these games are made for Windows. We might have lost 12-15 hours of an interesting game and the conclusion of a story, but what we've gained is priceless. And also less price since they're all free features, most of which console players have to pay a subscription for.

Little Fact Valve Does'nt know how to count to 3

Hey what year was Alyx released?

valve didn't make CS, it was a mod for HL (which indeed was made by Valve)

artifact from a gameplay standpoint i would argue is not a miss. in fact it was fantastic. but the problem with it is the target audience for it does not care. they were marketing it as a "DOTA 2 card game" but DOTA players don't give a shit about some card game. they just want to play some more dota. and the fact that it's paid also limits the potential player base. i mean hearthstone is free why not try that? and all of this is coming from a 5k hour dota player. i'm not saying it's not valve's fault that it failed, but the game is doomed from the start. if IRCC they dint even advertised it.

Steam money, next question.

Valve seems to have been working on a new VR headset for a while, if theres a half-life 3 theres a chance itll be to show off their new vr hardware

great video man, earned a sub

As what I see people say, "Valve makes glorrified Tech-Demos. not games"

4:43 Imagine forgetting about Half-Life Alyx, a full-ass game released in 2020

I believe Valve would wait until full dive technology is available to do HL3. Of course that's crazy. I do believe that they'll probably wait until VR is (1) widespread and accessible and (2) the top "tier" VR has revolutionary haptic, sound, and visual feedback. The goal would be that everyone can try it and the big pocket gamers can really "experience" it. We are not there quite yet with VR.

Im still hoping somebody in valve gets inspired to do something with the new AI stuff and creates some amazing thing again.

Half Life was a total revolution in gaming. I took my old PC to the shop and told them to upgrade it until it could play half-life. The put in a Celeron 400 CPU and motherboard nd a 3dfx Voodoo card which did the trick! I think only the case, power supply, and wifi card were reused, it cost $1000 but was totally worth it to play the $40 game ...

Even when Valve upgraded Counter-Strike from Source 1 to Source 2 engine, it's also for the sake of keeping their second money printer alive (CS skins economy keep generating them millions each month). Maintaining the aging Source 1 engine is a pain to do for them (just look at the some of the source codes that got leaked) and upgrading it to their latest engine eased some of the tech debt for them. And then there's Neon Prime which is still in development, that I believe is another Game as a Service from Valve. They will exploit the heck of that game through skins economy or some kind, I'm genuinely sure of it.

Given the fact that every Half-Life game showcased ways of interaction in-game like never seen before, I think the next Half-Life game will be based on Breakable Environment Physics. Imagine the puzzles, where you have to destroy things a certain way to proceed.

it may not have seemed like it at first, but the focus on Steam and hardware was a power move for the greater good of gaming in the long run, and I'm grateful