isn't it funny that the cost of walls increase but the amount of troops, spells and abilities that break walls also increases

At this point, walls are just to dump useless resources. They make no sense when you have troops which fly over them, jump over them, burrow under them, smash through them, troops specifically target them, spells which destroy walls, spells would enable troops to jump over them, multiple siege machines which destroy walls AND the new Barbarian King ability which destroys walls

Walls are used to intimidate your attackers

Walls are more of a status of symbol or a symbol of a more difficult base to attack. It makes little sence but if you see level 1 walls youll be more inclined to attack even if your army is air only.

I think the wall is expensive so that player has an objective to grind becasue without expensive wall the players would just be waiting for upgrade time. And thus the price also increases drastically as the time for upgrading other buiding in later stages.

i think people forget that its not so much about the instant attack but later in the attack that walls matter. Especially when troops attacking you have to get through walls for the final buildings and defenses.

For how expensive it is to upgrade walls, its funny how ineffective they are due to so many counters like the recent root rider

walls gives players a reason to stay on the game. This might be a tactic to increase play time, which could result in dedicated players being more inclined to buy store bundles.

As a TH16 I can see the argument on walls being "less useful" now that we have so many ways to avoid walls..I personally see a lot of value in them. They're not only good for funneling but air attacks are a lot easier to flop imo. At the end of the day pro players are always gonna show us the best strategies to emulate so I'm not worried. Easy 3*s all day

I think walls is just a way to not have max storages sitting doing nothing all the time in the higher town halls while u wait for the 2 week timer. Its just a way to dump it while actually having something to show for it

I think walls still have a few uses. 1) Redirecting troops. A lot of layouts isolate key defences from other buildings so troops (even air troops) won't initially target them. 2) Walls slow down stragglers, which can be the difference between a 2 star or a 3 star attack. 3) Walls offer you something to sink your resources into while you wait a week for your other upgrades.

I always upgraded walls because they looked beautiful to me 😂 but after reaching wall level 15 it's starting to feel very hard

Walls and heroes gotta be the worst thing about CoC...

Im maxing out my walls because it makes my base look cooool

the reason troops that bypas walls are so strong is because they bypass walls, if the walls were weak other armies would be better walls are balanced, thats why the strongest strategy is avoiding them

The only thing walls do is scare people. I use edrag spam and if i see someone with maxed out walls, i get scared, even though its not going to affect me.

Main thing is walls redirect ground troops a LOT, a good placement of walls can matter 10x more than good placement of buildings. Sure they might get destroyed or ignored, but some part of your raid will *always* be affected by the walls, your Barb King and Archer Queen, which are incredibly important at the higher townhall levels. And that's if you use a 100% air/other wise wall ignoring attack, usually it will be several portions of different troops.

Walls look good that’s the reason you should upgrade them

Players: Walls are so useless! Archer queen:

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Wall main objective mostly are somewhat of an intimidation for lower th level and it work like charm

An interesting solution would be adding a temporary slowdown to air troops trying to pass above for really high level walls. Like a sort of like 2k hp barrier that slows down troops above

I've been thinking about this every time I log into the game, walls are *so* expensive starting at like Town Hall 9. The counters to them are pretty much everywhere, so I guess you just upggrade them for the aesthetic ? Or maybe just because it's gonna stay in your head that you didn't max out your walls ? Yeah so anyways, this video is really covering the subject well, glad it's doing well !

When you think that You earn resources more than you spend, I think it really makes sense. Its only problematic for a type people who literally atk once a week.

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i thought of an idea where you would get these small one tile towers that clipped onto walls, which their strength would be determined by the wall level, idk if thats a good idea but it would give incentive to upgrade walls

Walls often stop the most important part of army, The almighty wall-phile Archer Queen. And walls may not protect you from a defeat but they can sometimes give you timefail.

I think that it drastically changes from simple protection to strategic planning where to put walls and I haven't found the right formation even though I should have started three townhalls and five years ahead (TH 10)

At some point tou could also upgrade walls with dark elixir. But that made fsrming dark elixir so hard since everyone used it for walls while upgrading defs/troops. So glad they removed it shortely after

Man even back when Jump spells we're introduced I knew this problem would come someday, and it did come after 10 years or even earlier.

the only use of walls now is just to make your base prettier

think walls also have a psychological effect too. A base looks more intimidating if it got max walls for their th lvl. for example, if your a th10. what are the odds that you attack a base with weak walls but strong defence vs a base with max walls but weak defence. you probably go for the base with weak walls and strong defence because a base just looks weaker if it got weak walls. so i totally agree that walls are too expensive. so you basically upgrade walls for the intimidation effect only because of as you states in the video, air troops dominates the higher lvls

Sometimes I wonder if walls are really just there for the Queen to get stuck on.

As a th11 going from level 10 to level 11 walls was doubled recently, from 500k to 1m gold/elixir per wall. I would've skipped walls if I wasn't already close to being done with them. Hopefully they give us some more air defense to encourage more ground attacks

Walls are actually the only thing you cant get easy or pay. I love Walls and the grind to get them

Its one of those problems where your base is as strong as its weakest wall, so if you want to put two layers of wall around a defense such as a cannon (as an example, this would be terrible in practice) you need to place 44 walls, but your attacker only needs to break 2.

Im a TH12 and I use the walls to determine whether i should attack a base. All 14+ i probably wont attack, mix of 13-14 maybe, anything at 13-12 is ideal IF the loot is good

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Walls can be made effective by giving their power to stop attacking troops. Few ideas involve explosive wall, electrocuting wall, invisible walls stopping air attacks, mystery wall containing one of the 3 unique powers, self healing walls, walls that will teleport you to the start where you were deployed, few unbreakable walls, walls that throw acid when broken and so on.

The only problem i have with walls is that they are far too expensive. Instead of doubping the cost at each level they should just add an increase of 50 000 gold fron level 7 onwards. To some extent that would fix the issues while not making them too cheap. Also reducing the wall hitpoints by 10-20% across all levels would make ground attacks far more popular across every town hall

Walls should be expensive, but not overpriced. Right now they are just overpriced where it feels like an annoying chore instead of something to get done. Nobody likes doing them and everyone waits till the last moment to get it done. Up until level 15 walls they are just useless to upgrade as every troop gets stuck on them the rest of the attack. We have so many great air attacks, the root rider, and earth quake spells that theres just no reason to upgrade walls other than to dump remaining resources in when your 5 builders are working. I think they should stay expensive but not as overpriced as they are now

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They just need to make the walls upgradeable with dark elixir as that's the easiet to get (in my experience) and I'm usually overflowing with it. It would be nice to be able to dump my spare dark elixir into the walls just for an aesthetic upgrade to my base because at the end of the day the walls are mostly there for the looks at the highest level.

Walls are to flex how dedicated you are at the game, always been that way :P

They should add a upgrade where you can make like 20 of your walls spit a wall of flames up or something so flying troops have to go around them or wait for those walls to be broken/ break them themselves.

walls became really strong as players evolved and came up with channeling layouts, its really complicated to figure out which walls to break, where to put wallbreakers for my army not to split up thats why im a miner hog enjoyer since th11

I have seen walls even today stop a 3-star by troops getting stuck and time out….. Walls are vital

I think a solution would be to have the higher level walls (when they begin to glow) to slow air troops that fly above them, since a lot of attacks at the higher TH levels are air attacks that would have an impact i think.

I feel like walls just exist just to delay us for new th upgrades

Walls are incredibly important. Tho there are some op air attacks they are actually usually wayyyy harder to pull off. If you don’t update your walls, you get rocked by super easy mass ground troops.

They should make tall walls that block air troops, very limited amount so you choose oh but they also block projectile attacks so if you surround a archer tower it wouldn't attack so certain buildings like townhalls, clan castles

I think what people forget nowdays is, that u had to pay elexire and dark elexire in the past for troops, not everyone spamed "expensive" units in their rutine attacks. :)

tbf walls are sometimes the thing that stops a 3 star because most of the time the heros are last alive and clean up the last buildings. The walls hinder them.

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I think the wall could use an upgrade path tree, eg path one - stronger beefier walls to deter ground troops, and path two - longer/Taller yet weaker walls to deter air units

I am currently at TH 10 and I've always maxed out my walls relatively quickly because I attack somewhat frequently (more for fun rather than resuorces) and I have nothing to spend my gold and elixir on. 😅😅

I'm a Th12, at Champions 2. For the past 3 months now, I have been exclusively attacked by Electro Dragons and Dragons. My walls only stop the heroes, but they do that beautifully.

I used regular dragons army from th7 -th13 at th 14 that’s where air attacks become weaker since you can’t 2 zap 1 earthquakes the air defences

I think heros are worst now. With the hero abilities being separate from the level making it very hard to justify having the heros upgrade for 2 months straight each just to mex them for your town hall.

Walls complete the theme of your townhall level. They dont have have to be upgraded but for people who want to have a max base and complete the theme they max the walls also. If everything was easy and fast the game would be boring

They could.... make the walls cheaper.. thats the main issue. To level all 250 of my walls at TH 9 to from level 9 to level 10 costs 50 million gold/elixir. Each wall costs 491,050 gold/elixir to upgrade to level 10 from level 1, which means that if you max out your walls at TH 9... youve already spent a total of 122,762,500 MILLION ON WALLS ALONE.

If you have ever attacked a base with low level walls it is a big difference. I use hybrid most of the time which means walls don’t effect my main army however the most important part of attacks higher level is not the army but the hero’s and the set up. A queen charge into under leveled walls just melts the base apart a log launcher is crazy powerful on low level walls compared to high level walls. Personally I think walls are still extremely important but expensive because that’s the trade off of having no time to upgrade. Some could see this as being expensive because they are somewhat optional I don’t max my walls before I upgrade but I do get at least 50% maxed. Thats my opinion on the state of walls.

the biggest impact of wall is the mental one a full maxed village with maxed wall is way more intimidating than a maxed village with wall with 2 or 3 level missing

I dont know if anybody would see this or even think this is a good idea, but i feel like they should make it where you could decide which walls you could make it taller for the air troops couldn't go over them and would need to attack the wall to go pass them And a way to nerf that a bit is by having a limited amount of walls you could make taller or something like that

i rly hoped this update the walls would be a damaging defense a aura that damages like Titans aura ... or maybe slow effect etc. The machines rly made walls not super effectiv anymore and theres more and more that can just delete the walls and make them useless. Walls that are soo expensiv should have something extra. But rn its just a " upgrade when you are bored " thing. I max walls only cause i like it the matching colours lmao Its sad that the cost of walls is only decent with goldpass

I can say that you forgot one thing I’m a max 15 well into th16 now and I’ve been almost at 6k trophies but walls matter a lot not for necessarily directly stoping troops/heroes but to direct them to places where there is more dmg meaning that the only thing you need to worry about when it comes to walls is base building in a smart way where troops go where you want them to go, yes the argument for that walls are too expensive is valid considering the max lvl walls cost 9mil with gold pass 7.2mil and then you have two resources to buy them with not including wall rings so they aren’t useless but rather more importantly in base designing and figuring out what you want your base to defend against

The function of the wall now shifts more to regulating the movement of enemy troops, such as providing free space between important defenses and the wall, but of course this cannot be the reason for the very high price of the walls I hope supercell can reduce the wall price because the increase in each price per wall level is almost double

Maybe add Some ground reinforced walls or some barewire. That the Troops that can jump walls or dig under it get damaged or be at least slowed down. To make it a bit balacend for attackers make only some of the walls with this feature or make it hidden like a trap

I would love a transmog system for coc... obviously not for attacking players... but it would be cool to choose your favourite skins for you village buildings

the troop meta back then was balloons or mages and then pekkas then valkuries at th 9 and 10 then edragon and then at 12 also edragon spam and then it went back to witches and golems because u now had so many tactics to just dc about the walls

I really only upgrade walls during Hammer jam and when nearly every orher building are upgraded or when I have too much money.

maybe make the higher level walls do damage if something jumps over them like it zaps them or something (some even already look like they have electricity on top of them.)

I use walls to funnel my ennemy out of my cores. The more the wall are on the outside, the less lvl up they are. I also upgrade my walls in corner between multiple areas of my defenses a lvl higher than the one around, so my ennemy dont open multiple pass at one... So basically at any town hall lvl, i have the walls in my core corners maxed, the rest of my core walls and danger zone corners walls maxed -1 lvl, danger zone walls and outside walls corner maxed -2, and my outside walls maxed -3. I see that use of walls for funeling even more useful than just have fully lvled walls, and it's way cheaper. But that's always the upgrade i do last, when basically i dont have any more use for my elexirs while i still have some gold upgrade to make before going to the next town hall lvl...

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I wish the walls have a gear up like cannons,archer towers and mortars or advanced wall upgrade like having higher wall that you need jump spell instead using hog riders and head hunters(I think that's it aside from jump spell) and second one,is a wall troop that is good for defending using the walls HP as damage and every wall that is destroyed in that radius or area,it will increase the its HP and other walls,buildings and heroes. (Is it a good concept for the defense and for the walls?)

Walls are just kinda a thing to show off. I feel accomplished after upgrading all my walls and can show the difference between players who have maxed walls for their th vs players who don’t. It shows a players patience.

Kinda have the same opinion about how Hero upgrades work. They are absolutely essential in every single attack, so why do I gotta wait days and later on even weeks to efficiently attack again when I go for an upgrade? I can't use them while they upgrade, so might as well not even attack. I know it might not be the biggest deal ever, since grinding loot is moreso the priority in higher TH regions and you don't specifically need the Heroes for that, but it still bothers me. If we could still use the Heroes while they are upgrading just how we can still use regular troops when they are upgrading in the lab I'd have no issues at all. Or even better, although that might be too much to ask for: Make it just like the new Hero abilities! Once you have the ressources, you can instantly upgrade them. Again, that might be a bit too good tho.

I see walls more of an intimidating factor of the game. The first thing you notice in a base is the walls, so that decides if you want to attack or not

not upgrading walls is like not hitting legs at the gym. Some people are fine with it but for most it adds an extra nice look and grind

they're just way too expensive at the higher town hall for how useless they are. once you get into the higher ones you can destroy walls with so many things, or just do all air

Man seeing those 1 year wait for a lab im quitting this game now thanks for making me realize now

Haven’t touched clash of clans since 2016 but still enjoyed the video

Since nearly the beginning walls have been used as a resource sink for late game players. It's the same way hero pets are for DE. I'm not saying there isn't a better way, but you do have to have something for late game players to work on.

Walls have been thee most tedious task from the start. I remember a couple years into clash life, seeing wall-less clans. I admired those guys

I like how coc was a resource gathering game at first, thinking about it until troop elixir was removed I only had a serious attack once a month and would stop because profit did not beat the cost. Barch was on 24/7

As a th16 with max th15 walls I’ve always maxed walls purely for cosmetics and for the “intimidation/aesthetic factor”. I like that walls are expensive

I upgrade my walls as an intimidating tactic, if you see max walls, you'll tend to skip... even if you have an air army

It's just expensive decoration. You win any argument if you have walls fully ipgraded

i try to tell my clanmates not to max walls when maxing each th but they wont listen. Theyre useless, they just keep up with them for resource dumping and aesthetics

Walls are expensive but the grind isnt really that bad. After my lab and warden are done I just use elixer to finish them off. With the loot in legends league it doesnt take to long.

Imagine th16 with lvl 1 walls, its like skipping leg day XD

Nowadays, walls are just an indicator of how actively you're playing or whether you're rushed

I think they did a good job making them expensive. There's always something to do then. There used to be these big lufts of time where you would just have to take a few days off.

there’s a point where upgrading walls becomes a waste of resources

Wall rings should be able to upgrade walls at any level with just 1 ring imo- the merchant sells 5 for like 250 gems- and as higher town halls like th12 and up to 5 wall rings is nothing considering you need more then 1 to upgrade walls past a certain level- so if wall rings were able to upgrade any level with just one ring that would be nice

No wall upgrade was as brutal as TH9, prior to elixer being able to be used. 1mil for the first upgrade and 3 mill for the second upgrade, all gold only. That grind burned me out and i took a break for 2 years, because right after i did that grind and maxed TH9 completely, they changed it to being able to use elixir.

You know I always max out my walls but the hybrid is my main strategy so I don't think much of them when I'm attacking

This is just wrong in my experience. I am not climbing right now, I'm farming to max out th14. Walls are one of the most annoying things to deal with in clash when you're high up because air spam stops working and you actually have to funnel properly. Walls are a big obstacle when it comes to creating the proper funnel. If you want your queen to target eagle, and there's two layers of walls in between, she'll likely just skirt the outside of the base instead of going in to take out the eagle. Just watch any pro and they'll almost always carry super wall breakers to set up a proper funnel. Walls are one of the more important structures on base because it's an obstacle that your troops' ai has to navigate between. It's not problematic because once you maxed almost everything in your base, and you're farming properly, it's not too bad to pay for max level walls. There's a clear line between casual clashers and more serious clashers. This video was not created to cater towards the higher ranking players.

Queen. You upgrade walls so that enemy queen has a hard time