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"The goal of oppressors is to limit your imagination about what is possible without them so you might never imagine more for yourself and the world you live in." That quote by Ashley C Ford was the highlight for me. The problem I feel and see moving forward is just the massive scale at which change needs to happen. It's hard enough to align my own lifestyle with the values I profess, let alone bring about deep structural change to worldwide systems.

*The choice is literally just:* 1) Smaller economies focussed on peace, stability, health, happiness and planet healing. 2) Business as usual, GDP/growth at all costs. The costs being, human wellbeing, happiness, health, and the total ruination of the planet upon which we depend. You'd think the choice is easy, but we are not governed by people willing to make the easy choices...

Imagining the level of individual participation in government necessary to make eco socialism a reality is difficult. Does anyone else feel that one of the main issues with our current system is the lack of the average person’s involvement in the political process?

The reason Cuba uses Oxen instead of tractors is because they are literally under embargo and can't get access to replacement parts or petroleum. Its also why they still have cars from the 1950s still running. They didn't do it because they thought it was better for the environment. Draught animal farming is more labor intensive and produces lower yields. They did it because it was either they used Oxen or they wouldn't have food period. This isn't a desirable outcome. The PRC has huge swaths of land occupied by peasant farmers who use animals to pull plows. The government has spent the last 30 years trying to get modern farming equipment for the countryside, literally the opposite of what Cuba had to do.

The Scottish Government has said that they are aiming for a wellbeing economy, not based on GDP, but on human health and happiness.

Capitalism has outlived its usefulness. We should have adopted socialism worldwide a century ago. It's not too late.

Economics is another word for Exchange and how we go about exchanging is really really basic and important to understand. What gets measured gets managed and what gets managed gets done. Using numbers to give us feedback about what we put into and take out of the economy is a very powerful feedback process,

from 1975 to 1979, communist Cambodia emitted close to zero industrial carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, and like you suggested would be a good thing in the video, everyone lived on farm lands instead of feeding the city. of course, everyone was equally poor and millions had nothing to eat thanks to the centrally planned economy and redistribution of wealth. As a Cambodian i am very skeptical of any grand solution that places socialism as the main driving force. I understand capitalism as it currently is does not take care of people well, but please do not repeat the mistakes of the 20th century by going back to soviet style socialism.

I've recently been entirely disillusioned with capitalism and find it pretty much impossible to carry on participating in it, which is a bit of a problem being a self-employed contractor and finding it hard to reconcile that with still having to make a living :( I'm actually quite disgusted and repulsed by our society, and I live in South Africa so the inequality gap is even bigger here than in US or UK. And the worst of all is our alleged governing party is / was / claims to be a leftist pseudo-socialist organization, but is really just a monstrously corrupt gang that is 100% driven by an insatiable hunger for taking money

There's something ironic about putting an educational video about the environmental destruction of the Soviet Union behind a paywall when its intended purpose is to teach the masses about how we can avoid similar mistakes in the future.

00:04 Capitalism is driving ecological collapse 02:55 Capitalism disrupts the natural regenerative cycle, leading to ecological imbalance 05:52 Ecosocialism advocates for an economy prioritizing well-being of all people and the planet. 08:53 We need vibrant visions and debates about the future world under socialism. 11:43 Gosplant: Algorithmic planning tool for ecological society 14:26 Eco-socialism aspires to global egalitarian redistribution and respectful management of human interaction with nature. 18:04 Ecosocialism and the example of Cuba's organic farming 20:50 Cuba's socialist agricultural revolution transformed the country. 23:40 Cuba's socialist organization represents ecosocialist degrowth in action 26:21 Advocacy for sustainable transportation and harm-reduction strategies 28:48 Support Our Changing Climate through Nebula Capitalism is driving ecological collapse - Soil degradation is a result of capitalism's pursuit of profit and capital accumulation, leading to ecological collapse. - The relentless transformation of nature into marketable goods disrupts the natural cycle of production and reproduction, resulting in the degradation of soil health and ecological imbalance. Capitalism disrupts the natural regenerative cycle, leading to ecological imbalance - Under capitalism, peasant farming is replaced by wage-labor system, disrupting the return of soil nutrients - Ecosocialism is proposed as an alternative that prioritizes humanity and nature over profits Ecosocialism advocates for an economy prioritizing well-being of all people and the planet. - It calls for a worker and peasant-led revolution to rip ownership of production away from the elite and put decision-making power into the hands of the masses. - Ecosocialism specifically emphasizes a democratically planned economy based on social and ecological constraints. We need vibrant visions and debates about the future world under socialism. - Half-Earth Socialism calls for a socialist planned economy that focuses on land preservation, minimizing emissions, and a good life for all. - Socialist planning is crucial in the context of climate change to understand what actions are necessary at all levels. Gosplant: Algorithmic planning tool for ecological society - Gosplant uses linear programming algorithms to create broad plans for cutting emissions, rewilding land, and maintaining a good life. - The plans created by Gosplant are disseminated, debated, and transformed at global, national, and local levels, being subject to constant motion, transparency, accessibility, and debate. Eco-socialism aspires to global egalitarian redistribution and respectful management of human interaction with nature. - It advocates for public ownership of the means of production and decommodification of social life globally. - It seeks to mend the metabolic rift of capitalism by embracing replenishment over extraction and heal the broken relationship with the land. Ecosocialism and the example of Cuba's organic farming - Ecosocialist manifestos emphasize communal stewardship, ecological production, and anti-imperialism as key throughlines. - Contemporary example of ecosocialism in action: Cuba's transition to organic farming during the Special Period after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Cuba's socialist agricultural revolution transformed the country. - Isolated from trading partners, Cuba adapted with initiatives like farmer to farmer knowledge sharing and urban farming. - By emphasizing sustainable and permaculture-oriented systems and prioritizing food access, Cuba successfully built an ecosocialist agriculture. Cuba's socialist organization represents ecosocialist degrowth in action - Cuba deepens connection between people and land through agroecological and urban farming cooperatives, increasing literacy, food access, and minimizing fossil fuel use - Ecosocialism requires the long collective struggle of the working class and peasants taking control of production, possibly involving revolution and starting in countries like India and the Philippines Advocacy for sustainable transportation and harm-reduction strategies - Advocacy for safe, accessible, and electrified public transit, and extensive bike infrastructure. - Examples of harm-reduction strategies such as blocking pipelines, defunding the military and police, and advocating for a four-day work week. Support Our Changing Climate through Nebula - Get early access to videos and exclusive ad-free content - Support a community of educational creators

I've never seen these green fields in Havana and most recent news coverage on this comes from Cuban and Venezuelan media outlets. Where do you have the information from? The issue is that at least in Havana, the people are not motivated enough to work in agriculture. The pollution of the beaches and streets is also a growing problem. It is difficult to get garbage cans but it doesn't mean that you throw your stuff into the ocean. The local markets offer fruits and vegetables but the quality is devastating! The soil itself should be fine and they have a relatively easy access to water. However, the goods remain small and it seems that wherever they have it from, the good stuff gets delivered into the hotels. There has always been a class system in Cuba: 1. government officials, 2. tourists and 3. the ordinary citizens. I was in a so called 5* hotel recently and even they had difficulty to get a variety of food. This year might become worse as tourists decide for other countries to visit. The Cuban government is solely counting on the support of its allies like China who will only hand out credit. The biggest rade partner of Cuba are the USA. Canada is also a big trading partner who might deliver their "rest" products. Havana is a city with a good supply system. I went shopping for food and kitchen supplies. The prices are up due to the inflation. I saw empty shelves in several supermarkets from different districts. Some people do not realize that the embargo does not equal that the Cuban government cannot buy anything. They have means to do it and obviously trading partners of a high calyber. Just think of the people in small villages! My people in Havana start to look stressed which might be a result of the lack of food diversity. Years ago I visitied a family on the countryside, maybe with a population over 200 citizens. Back then they already had basically only pork and some fresh fruits and vegetables. They had to drive miles to the next bigger cities because the supply chain wasn't effective nor do people in Havana care about the stuff that they could send to all the other towns. One example: Canadian apples! My relatives and I stood there for almost 1 hour(!). The apples were counted. You could get as many sacks as you want but the content of each sack would be the same. The clerks would also select which apples you get. People were super aggressive and needy. They didn't have enough material to carry. Almost everyone bought several sacks, like 40-50 apples. According to my cousin (who is rather regime friendly) they do it to sell the apples on the Black market as apples are exotic in Cuba. However, they use beasically all the apples in Havana and bigger cities because of the demand. A system where each town gets apples isn't existing... Sometimes I believe that most of you who talk a lot about Cuba have never been there. Interestingly, most of you don't want to live there either. Socialism feeds governments as well. Ever thought about it?

who would've thought that profit over all else includes overlooking our own survival. Edit: neoliberal coping is actually hilarious, please don't give these people any attention, since that's clearly what they want. who else besides trolls would click on a video about socialism from a channel that exposes how capitalism and it's rhetoric, lies, etc. kills our planet?

Huh, algorithmically aided socialist planning to fight climate change and make the world a better place you say? What a coincidence, I'm currently in a computer science and software engineering programme at uni because I want to learn what I need to try making very nearly exactly such a thing.

Urban gardening might look nice on paper, but in reality plants grown in polluted environment such as cities, with their heavy traffic and industry, accumulate the pollutants in their own organs, either directly from the air through their leaves, or indirectly from the soil, which then accumulates in our own bodies through our food. Raised beds does not eliminate this problem. (Unfortunately we also suffer from this same pollution by the very act of breathing)

You are so goated for making this video, good job!!! I will share these with friends and families, keep it up. We'll be waiting for more!

its honestly not even that hard to perform the actions needed to achieve sustainability, whats monumentally hard is getting the people that need to agree, to agree to plans..

As Sheev Palpatine once said: "All who gain power, are afraid to lose it"

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Please share citations or sources more clearly, maybe with timestamps etc on your notion site. This would allow for better and more clear communication based on your videos. Thanks for your awesome work.

To fix the climate problem, we need to stop all of it yesterday. The next best thing is to somehow rise up and radically change the economic system to ecosocialism

Socialism I feel is mostly useful in small communes or villages maybe a small town. Otherwise, it's flawed. Even if you have a pure hearted saint running things, it just has too many problems when used in large places for a long period of time.

The incredible part about this type of agriculture is.... it is still clearly possible for one farmer to grow much more food than what they personally need. After all, this is the basis of how we achieved population growth and various agricultural systems in the first place. The hard part is... this form of agricultural will always keep at least 25% of the population involved in agriculture, simply due to it's labor intensive type of farming. That's a tremendous amount of people involved in agriculture, which isn't bad, but it's a lot of people not doing other things. Furthermore, this agricultural class has a hard time getting out of poverty, to become what most of us would deem middle class of some kind and that would hold in a capitalist or socialist society. A person is only producing X, and if that's not $100k worth of food/year... it's simply hard to form an economic middle class so to speak. This form of agriculture is great, but needs technologies help. The great part is, we live in an era where there is rapid development of machines to assist. I have a vineyard, so I'm a farmer. 10 years ago, they were coming up with the first robots to prune grape vines. Soon, this will be on the market. 20 years from now, those will be much more common place, and this is technical enough skill that many people have thought that it's near impossible to train a machine to do such a task.

I think we should take a moment to acknowledge the very hard things that will have to be unlearned by the masses before other systems can be effectively implemented. People are tired and overworked and no matter how perfect a system sounds, people are rightfully fearful of the protection of themselves and their loved ones. We need to always practice compassion for the extreme shift that people will have to undergo to understand these beneficial policies. Change is *hard*

I really appreciate that you are speaking about these issues- socialism, post-capitalist ideas, and how they relate to the biosphere and our personal lives. Thank you.

First time I've seen the social metabolism explicitly brought into the discussion. It's the concept that needs to be at the centre of how we plan the future. Not that I'm holding my breath...

I was intrigued by the title, but this video seems premised on our “capitalist agriculture” being responsible for damage to our soils (the implication being that free market forces are incentivizing damaged soils). What’s missing from this video is that our agricultural sector is a highly planned and subsidized industry. The US Federal government decides what we need more or less of and dolls out the cash as necessary. We have been intentionally subsidizing this kind of agriculture since at least the 1930s even though it would otherwise be cheaper now to use “no-till”, cover crops, and other environmentally friendly approaches. “Socialism” usually means more central planning in practice. I didn’t make it all the way through so I don’t know if the author is suggesting that MORE government intervention would fix this or if they’re advocating some other strategy. If you want it to change, you can already use the democratic process to lobby for change. I thought this was the goal of democratic socialists. Go use the democratic structures!

I liked watching your denouncement of certain aspects of capitalism by using real world solutions that have already been applied and also enjoyed watching the ad for Nebula at the end. Give Thanks for the video 🧐

Without changing the fundamental greedy nature of human beings, no change in a social system can change our ways Human compulsions are what creates social structures, it's not the other way around My point is, without making the average human more loving, companionate and inclusive towards others, no isms are going to help

Absolutely agree. Politically I'm disgusted with government. My hope and faith with the common man who can certainly govern a lot better than the egocentric narcissitic bullies that are attracted to government.

This short clip at 17:23 is from Töölahti park, Helsinki, Finland. Helsinki main station is just outside of view. Just wanted to point out that none of the buildings seen in the clip are housing units. They're all office buildings. Would be better if more effort was put into visual presentation.

I think the organopónicos are a great example to highlight but it's important to point out that Cuba is currently going through a food crisis that is arguably as bad as the special period. So, food very much still has to be imported left and right to feed the people and yet the Party has used over half of the state budget to build luxury hotels... It's a complex affair, but the organopónicos are a step in the right direction, just not supported enough by the state

Funny that you mention Cuba as a model for this. I was there last year and I was so happy I was able to leave! I'd be curious to ask the people if they prefer the new way or old way of doing things

This is why I'm such a big proponent of permaculture

I really liked this video, even though i have a different opinion on how to get to the solutions, you definitely have some really good points.

The issue of selling Cuba's model is it is basically the same one we had before the industrial revolution where the vast majority of everyone were farmers who had to grow their own food to survive. It's massively more beneficial for everyone that agriculture be industrialized because it is magnitudes more efficient than individual gardening and has freed almost everyone in industrialized countries from what would otherwise be the compulsory career of subsistence agriculture and nothing else. Plus, Cuba is tropical, so it's able to grow food all year round, whereas the growing period for most places further from the equator is limited, sometimes severely, by their colder climates. Even if your growing season was 9 months long, that 80% of food needs met by urban gardens drops to 40%, because you are both not growing food and continuing to consume food during non-growing periods. Temperate growing seasons are more like 7-8 months, and anywhere further than that can be 5-6 months or even shorter. It's simply not feasible anywhere else. The lesson that economies should be as self-sufficient as possible to maintain individual liberty and prosperity despite shifting geopolitical dynamics is good, but Cuba's success is much more thanks to its climate than its economic system.

This is a beautiful vision/outcome. To my thinking, the critical omission is what is to be done with the immovable selfish and narcissistic who refuse to be won over by such a vision. What do we do with those who have not been moved by compassion or existential threats to seek shared wealth and well-being, those who are perfectly satisfied with accumulating wealth and consolidating power?

Instead of saying "planned" which has terrible cultural connotations and won't ever get traction in America, I would say "democratically owned and managed at the local level" to make clear we're not advocating for top-down systems planned by a new elite, but rather a return to local sovereignty or local "self-rule," which would involve decision-making at the state and higher levels but power would always be rooted in the grass-roots councils or local democratic decision-making bodies (like city councils). I assume this is a shared vision but let us know if we're mistaken!

We do need to plan how the survivors will live. Next to worse case scenario is that a tiny remnant carries on but in isolated communities.

very interesting video, thanks! i will have to read all of the three books you mentioned

Planning is good. Kudos to the video for including linear programming. Actually kudos to this video for a lot of things. I don't know if it's just a coincidence of videos I've watched in the last couple days but it feels like "metabolic rift" is trending on lefty channels.

Watch: Dominion (2018) - full documentary We can't fix the past, but If the average human learns to love and reduce harm caused to others, then we could unite against the nebulous forces that ruin this earth.

if you have the chance, please read Murray Bookchin! Absolutely instrumental for a holistically social and environmental socialism.

I was taking a plane ride from Pennsylvania and seeing the airlines and the airports jokes of a sustainability effort made me laugh out loud

Good look into these ideas would be 1970s Chile before Pinochet. The Soviet Union wasn't the most environmentally healthiest place due to the focus on their mass industrialisation campaigns, especially to match and combat the looming threat of Germany at the time. China is an example of that without the immediate threat of another country going to invade. It has demonstrated very bad results environmentally through their policies of large scale industrialisation and modernisation, both a good thing for the development of a modern society, but the next step would be to figure out more effective and less environmentally destructive means of production. China though has demonstrated that it is possible, though their results haven't dropped too largely, the plans to implement more clean energy has lead to results within China. Ever since China started their "War of Pollution" since 2014, they have seen significant drops of air contamination by 40% [According to NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH in the US] and most likely will continue this trend. They aren't perfect nor their Air is the healthiest, they still have a pretty polluted atmosphere, but the smog known to be seen in China has significantly dropped. But to get back to my point about Chile and why I brought up the Soviet Union. Chile was building a Cybernetic System that would allow people to communicate with the state, for the state to communicate to other industrial sectors to allow for efficient distribution of labour and resources. During Salvador Allende's run as Chile's President, Chile saw great improvement with their quality of life during these policies, to ensure that the country can be ran not by the Bureaucratic decisions of the state, but by the decisions of the working class people, bringing up their concerns to the state for the state to act on behalf of the people for a far more functional and stable society. Chile's Cyber Socialism would have definitely been a solution to the Soviet Union's Bureaucratic nature. At this point I am going to speculate, but if the Soviet Union would have still been a country today, if their brand of Soviet Socialism still persisted through the hardest points of their nation, there would have been no doubt that they would have tackled the Climate Question and implemented policies to improve the quality of the environment. Def look into Stalin's Environmentalism and his plans to transform the damage heavy industrialisation has done to lead down a path of Soviet Socialist Sustainability.

For those who need to the definitions: Socialism is the ownership of labor, utilities and other resources, and housing by the individuals who are working, consuming and living. Capitalism is the ownership of someone else's labor, utilities and resources, and housing. Authoritarianism is when this ownership is held by the state. Anarchism/Libertarianism is when this ownership is direct. Mutualism is an Anarchist/Libertarian Socialist system where Worker, Consumer, and Housing cooperatives exist in a free market, but prevent exploitation by shareholders and owners, utilities and middlemen, and rent-seeking landlords as the workers, consumers, and tenants are the stakeholders.

A historian would argue that the 'capitalist mode of farming' is what enabled humanity to overcome the hunter-gatherer lifestyle that we had for most of humankind existence. It is exactly this urbanization with dedicated farming that gave us everything we have, all technology, from wheels to writing to math is due to this change in lifestyle. We can obviously go back to the days before that, to 10.000 BCE before the days of the first farming revolution. We were very much in harmony with nature those days, but I doubt you will find many people willing to trade their current comforts for that harsh reality, and that is for the best as this lifestyle can only sustain a fraction of the current population, which is why human population only started growing exponentially after that revolution.

The first solar panel was made in 1883, the first commercial solar panel in the 1950s and the first affordable ones were available in the 70s. We coulda had solar panels on every roof in America by the 90s if oil lobbyists didn't work so hard

YES THIS IS VERY NEEDED! THANKS

I'm happy to discuss and implement radical changes in our political and economic systems. And this seems an interesting idea. But you portrait it as if this is the solution. And it being such a complex problem, a bit more nuance and unceretenty would be good.

I think there's still an element missing, but the key ingredient. To find what that is, refer to what Sagan told Congress in 85 would be required to address the problem. He does so at the end of his testimony.

Currently reading The End of Oil and it is fairly bleak. It's nice to have your videos showing the positive possibilities of our future.

🎯 “The object of the vegan society is to oppose the exploitation of sentient life, whether it’s profitable to do so or not” Donald Watson- August, 1945 “Veganism is…a way of living which avoids exploitation, whether it be of our fellow men, the animal population, or the soil upon which we rely for our very existence.” Eva Batt- 1964 💚🐾✊🏼💚🌏✌️💚

I would like to see you suggest praxis more. What do we DO to push for ecosocialist change? How do we force the change? How do folks get active in local governing and changes? What are the steps to going from capitalism to ecosocialism and solarpunk? What resources can we use to organize, act, and change our communities? What can we do right now to organize truly communal gardens, local food webs, and community support systems? Because big ideas are inspiring, but very overwhelming. And smashing the social atomization that capitalism has caused is the biggest issue I see to making those changes specifically in the usa.

Algorithmic planning sounds VERY dystopian lol, regenerative farming is also growing under capitalism, intensive agriculture just does not make sense long-term, it only benefits banks and big ag. Farmer co-ops are the future, it does not matter if you live under capitalism or not. "Only when capitalism is destroyed can we build a better future" is coping and seething. That's why co-ops is a better option as it can work already and show it is a better system and replace it.

A new path forward? Yes! But is eco-socialism the way? Isn’t it true that experience shows that capitalism and socialism are on the same spectrum of the Consumption economy? It’s how you cut up the pie of resources and production. They both can be dysfunctional. Without a Restorative economy balance cannot be achieved. A beautiful vision is the vision of balance of social and environmental sustainability. A practical proposal is the Global Carbon Reward.

Ohh I love this game! I started playing a few years ago and it makes me so happy. The first time I "won", it took my whole "tenure" of 60 years. From my bed in passing, someone brought me the news that we'd implemented everything, the people were happy, the climate was stable, and we had averted ecological disaster. Irl I uggo cried. It really helps one understand the time scale, sacrifice, but the beautiful gains that come with degrowth and egalitarianism.

I believe in organic urban farming initiatives. Monocropping and deforestation are huge issues with extremely simple solutions. More environmental regeneration efforts and offloading the production of food and consumable goods to organized communities.

Anarchy was misused in this video. Anarchy is when no single entity rules. It’s a collective responsibility of horizontal power and organizing of society. If anything ecology and anarchy are complimentary. Ask @Andrewism or @Anark to discuss both anarchy and ecology. 💜

This analysis of the problem with Capitalism ( ecological and social harms will result from over-consumption as the means to concentrated wealth and power) is spot on, but the "solutions" are muddled and somewhat contradictory from both its internal logic and historical examples presented. For example, for decades before being forced to be self-reliant, Cuban socialists/communists chose to rely on industrial agriculture supportd by the USSR - itself hugely comitted to fossil-fuel powered industrialisation of its military and production, including its agriculture. This highlights that the overall problem here is not Capitalism and property ownership, though these are clearly major parts of the crisis we face. In terms of environmental health and social justice, nearly all top-down and ideologically-driven "solutions" have failed in practice (though they can be seductive in theory). I think concentrated power is the main problem since this is inevitably based on the capacity to control or destroy living systems (bioregions, communities, individuals) from the outside - from a distance. At the other end of the spectrum is distributed power based on the capacity to relate, participate and share with others at the most local level possible. For guidance on how to do this, I would look to indigenous examples as well as Elinor Ostrom's 8 Principless for Managing a Commons: 1. Define clear group boundaries. 2. Match rules governing use of common goods to LOCAL needs and conditions. 3. Ensure that those affected by the rules can participate in modifying the rules. 4. Make sure the rule-making rights of community members are respected by outside authorities. 5. Develop a system, carried out by community members, for monitoring members’ behavior. 6. Use graduated sanctions for rule violators. 7. Provide accessible, low-cost means for dispute resolution. 8. Build responsibility for governing the common resource in nested tiers from the lowest level up to the entire interconnected system. Implementing these principles at the local level can and does "work". Unfortunately, they do not directly deal with the problem of concentrated power (principle number four), which human technology has enabled. For this problem, there may not be any "solution" aside from our day-to-day choices based on individual awareness and attitude. Will we submit and join with distant power centers or will we learn to restrain our capacity for power and control, expand our local awareness (the here and now within and around us), and again become respectuful partners within our miraculous and sacred living world?

I come from Czechia, a former socialist country once controlled by the Communist Party. What did 40 years of socialism lead to? Corruption at every societal level, flawed political processes, widespread injustice, and, most notably, catastrophic ecological damage. This includes the destruction of small family-owned farms, which were absorbed by state-owned enterprises and converted into monocultures. Issues such as deforestation, excessive mining, and air pollution, among other environmental concerns, were prevalent. The quality of life declined, and our culture was degraded, leaving moral scars that some generations may never overcome. While capitalism certainly requires reforms, socialism is not a viable alternative. This is a lesson we have learned through experience. I urge others not to repeat the mistakes we made.

I can't agree with Victor Wallis. Not on the base of he being wrong, but on the basis of how history showed that all socialist expiriences had been against ecological planning. China has become the least evironmental expirience in sociliast history followed by Soviet Union which had two of the 5 biggest environmental disaster on history. On the other hand Cuba is the closest country to ecosocialism we have today.

What do you think about Japan because their economy is also based on capitalism but their land is mostly covered in forest and their capitalist economy is sustainable

Those Filipino and Indian Maoists are in fact heavily integrated with indigenous communities, may it be katutubo or adivasi. They often wage offensives against landlords, multinational mining and logging companies, and other "development" agressors, creating protective corridors on pristine rainforests and mountains. Broader national democratic organizations and alliances not necessarily affiliated with them are also fighting legal/parliamentary battles against those same forces.

Great video, as always, best source of eco- so far

If all the necessary measures for systemic changes are to be mediated through debate in social planning, we must cultivate a skill set in dialogical reasoning, which is developed at the level of human faculties. This should be stewarded by a spirit of fellowship in the grove, rather than framing arguments in the courtroom of debate. To accomplish this, a change in our culture and values is essential, parallel to systemic changes. Systemic changes will immediately impact our quality of subjective well-being. Therefore, a shift in our meaning-making process is important to develop simultaneously with changes in our society. After all, our actions are based on our beliefs. If we truly care about truths, our beliefs should serve the reality of our situation. And if our immediate comforts are to be thwarted for a greater good, our time will need to be spent developing the necessary character to buttress the challenging changes ahead. Our virtues (capacities) will need to be concurrent with the changes that are demanded of our societies because these changes will start with human awareness. John Vervaeke, Iain McGilchrist, and Daniel Schmachtenberger are some names to consider to complement the excellent theses presented in this video essay. Great work, and thanks for the education!

How do I partake in the conversation?! I have ideas for the textile and apparel industry!!! 😅😅

I think your best example of a path forward was the one you outlined for Cuba. I believe your call for an uprising to create an ecosocialist future is counter productive because the media often villainizes socialism and living in harmony with our ecosystem. For this reason we need to speak about strategies to free ourselves from the being wage slaves and cultivate the advancement of cooperatives that are democratic in nature with a specific emphasis on our basic needs such as food production and housing. Through empowering communities to wrestle back our basic needs from the current capitalistic model which values profits over all else, we need to recognize that we the people are the ones who create the wealth through our labor. So why not work for ourselves through a cooperative efforts to meet our communities needs. Thank you and be well.

The issue of extracting value from the soil is one that is tied with modern technology and farming that feeds the world. Nothing about this 'issue' is intrinsic to private ownership of the means of production. Similarly, the concept put forth that individuals will extract value from the land in an unsustainable manner because of profit incentives omits time preference and the reality that long term maintenance of the land is required for continued profits. Those who don't will ruin the land they farm and go bankrupt. To use an example from the video to demonstrate the error in the reasoning presented, lets look at the increasing use of fertilizers instead of long term soil healing processes. The farmers will chose the cheaper option of the two which are; extract nutrients from purchased fertilizer, or extract nutrients from soil that they have to spend time healing. The price on either option is a signal from the market of where the society needs the recourses the most. This would look like fertilizer being plentiful and cheaper than healing soil in this example and therefore a better use of societal recourses than the costs vs rewards of soil healing. With this example, we can see that capitalism is not a force destroying the environment, but rather just like any other sector of the market it reflects how much we ought to care about and extract from our environment as a representation of the aggregate demand, and viability of said extraction. If capitalism doesn't seem to care about the environment as much as you do, it follows that your plan to change farming would be a major misallocation of recourses that would have devastating effects. This video is some proof that the demand is there, the viability just isn't.

Power in the hand of the masses? How should that exactly work? In order to have an efficient control there must be a limited quantity of people that make choices. Moreover the masses do not necessarily make the right choices (look at how people choose their representative, not always the best choices). Additionally, who chooses what is the right choice? 6:06

I wish living decently (like a decent apartment, access to clean water and fresh food, sufficient education, good quality clothing) shouldnt be a luxury but with the price of everything shooting up to the sky (and beyond) every day, living decently seems like a luxury

Worker centered solarpunk let’s go!!!

The rich can't spend all the money on consumption, while the poor can. Hence, distributing spending power to the poor will increase overall consumption.

The profit motive is not the problem. It's the type of money we use. Money is the only common language that we all speak. It is the nucleus for functioning business and government. The current money we use incentivizes parasites to extract profit from producers and consumers because it is DEBT and PRINTED INFINITELY FROM THE TOP. A debt-based system MUST ensure that prices continue to rise. Using a money that is an ASSET with a FINITE SUPPLY is the key to incentivize saving/reducing consumption and incentivize the elite to sell the means of production to workers. An asset-based system CAN allow prices to fall. Less jobs, but with more profit margin going to workers, while increasing EVERYONE's purchasing power over time. The only system that provides this is Bitcoin and it's the #1 system being adopted with the perfect incentive -finite digital scarcity AKA number go up. Study it - only YOU can do the work.

So nice te see what's happened in Cuba! Please have Nebula offer other payment options than just creditcard, adding Paypal would already help.

It also feels like capitalism is also hacking the entire human society as well. Our entire worth has been determined by basically chance on what job can you get or how long are you willing to sell your own time. And all didn't make some CEO 0.000 1% richer

Some excellent critiques of capitalism in this video, but I sense a significant blind spot regarding socialism's tendency to devolve into authoritarianism, and a complete disregard for collapse dynamics quickly leading to authoritian outcomes. We've seen what happens when bureaucrats and the state are given too much power. Read Jem Bendell's Breaking Together, he presents a compelling case for ecolibertarianism being the way forward with ongoing collapse dynamics in mind.

Anyone know the name of the animated movie at 8:56?

750W per person INCLUDING the industial energy cost for all the stuff??? That's insane.

Planning is best done on a local level, the problem is a concentration of power, corruption, and planning at macro levels which get in the way of local plans (such as worker-owned enterprizes, focus groups of local issues, local self-reliance, local sharing, etc). I agree that having a utopian vision is important to bind us together.

This video makes it seem like Cuba is doing good, food wise when they're not. The people are starving. The local markets are empty and food is mostly only available in the government stores and everything there is bought in dollars, which regular people just don't have. Everything is super expensive and most people are barely surviving. On top of that medicine is extremely hard to find and pharmacies are empty. There's even a lack of anesthesia.

We have limited resources, I guess you know it. It's difficult to me to understand how to efficiently use resources with a central plan. You might argue that capitalism isn't using it efficiently either, but history has shown that it is still more efficient than other types of economic systems

Thanks for such a wonderful video showing many things I had not known. How do I get a job at an institution like this? I feel like this is where I belong and do what I was born to do

One thing I'm very curious about, but never gets mentioned by anyone, is how much debt the world has accrued in terms of the over-exploitation of Earth's resources. 'Earth Day' has been kept track of for multiple years now, but where is the cumulative number of this particular debt, and how much bigger will it get if capitalism is left to continue unchecked? I believe that this might be a good topic for a potential future video.

Finally someone talks about how modern science and technology make socialism much easier than ever to mantain. We are already producing more than what we need and what the ecosystem can handle. With just a bit of optimization we could produce much less and still keep everyone well fed, clothed and educated, something that is impossible with the current system. I welcome in advance our future cybernetic overlords running on renewable energy.

From what I have read, socialism controls and distributes produce (in this case food) directly and solely via the government to the people. Who decides where and how this is distributed evenly? a national vote? Privately owned land ensures individual choice on soil maintenance and crop control, how would this be implemented on one governing mass scale? Would this result in large establishments ordering small rural communities to send their produce away only to receive less resources in return? Cuba's example of local dependant, diverse farming methods is great. I also agree we need to reduce production growth and heavy capitalist demand. With mass population growth however, socialisms requirements seem very broad.

I agree with the thought but my thought is to have the power to change things one would have to join the system reach the top and not be swallowed by that money and power to actually change things.

Your videos are so refreshing. I forget that we can actually make life beautiful in the future. You remind me that imagination is the most important tool to fight these crises.

Make those other videos available to us on UKposts!! We shouldn’t have to support Nebula to learn more about something so important! Stop gatekeeping!!!

I find it really interesting that while watching this video I got an ad about a company that produces plastic items and their slogan is "We need plastic".

I think what's really important to discuss on videos like this is how diversity and autonomy will thrive in a eco-socialist society because many ppl fear socialism bc they assume they won't have any free will or choice to maintiain their needs,, but it will be interesting to explain how our compassion for healing the earth informs our personal development, needs and choices.

Before capitalism there was feudalism, not socialism, and the reason ecosystems weren’t destroyed was simply a lack of technology, not because there was a better system. We’ve never had a successful fully socialist state. Central planning has always been a disaster. Political Leaders don’t know how to pick winning strategies. Elitists are always in charge of the central planning and the common person ends up as a serf, just like under feudalism. “Putting the capital in the hands of the masses” sounds nice but always ends up taking it from the individual and putting it in the hands of a different few. Once you take away ownership of private property, the reason to work harder goes away. The problem is short-term thinking, and a 4-year political cycle rewards short-term thinking - even in socialist democracies. Socialism means the end of freedom - there’s a rule for everything.

We do not even know what is happening tomorrow. How can we plan an entire economy. While in a capitalist economy you have different actors in which if one fails to predict the future (or is just more efficient) there are still others which can provide a good. While when the central plan fails, all the rest of the plan necessarily also crumbles while generating catastrophic consequences

We as humans can never achieve a "perfect" system because power will never be homogeneously distributed in the society as most people want to follow someone, not lead them. In any type of system very few people will have most of the power and their actions will ensure their power and influence is not lost. But captialism destributes power more evenly in society than socialism. An individual in a capitalist society can potentially achieve higher status which is a huge motivator for the capitalist idealogy.

This is an amazing input on the ideologies of socialism. I never trully understood why there was a push towards this type of system. Now i understands

I'm glad he mentioned the criticism of Cuban's authoritarian problems, nothing should be beyond criticism. We need to continue to strive to improve the system by allowing more and more power to individuals and co-ops. Democracy within the workplace will truly liberate people and improve our ecological state.

I read The Space Merchants years ago and it's DEVESTATING how accurate Frederik Pohl's critique of capitalism was from 1950!

The more we opt out, the weaker capitalism becomes. We can learn the practical skills our ancestors had, like making and sewing our own clothes, growing our own food, etc... we can make choices about our diets, our transportation, etc... We can protest, advocate, and support candidates for political power who support our values. It isn't enough to save our world, but it is a necessary component. Let's live our values and prepare ourselves for a greener future

How do I help? I have a group of people who would like to start an eco social community, we have money and the ability to purchase land and would like to start our own farm culture together. How do we start?