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The problem with helping your adc push waves as a support in low elo is that your adc's ego won't allow him to not ping you and type "don't touch MY minions". So you either afk or roam while he is doing his thing or you can try to push causing him to rage, waste all his sums and abilities and leave you alone in lane for the rest of the game

As a support main, i can say that roaming has led to spam pings from my mid laner and my adc going 0/5

The Nami is probably just traumatized by all the ADCs spam pinging questionmarks, if you attack their minions just once... Honestly, so many of my ADCs in Gold tilt, when I auto attack the minions to secure us the level 2 powerspike. The other day, we clearly saw the enemy botlane recall and I for the love of God could not convince my Sivir to shove the lane and recall as well... she pinged me, why I dare to attack the wave. Serious: How am I supposed to manipulate my wave then? My other favorite example: I actually learned how to pull the first wave to deny CSs... which doesn't help, if my ADC just kills their minions faster than they kill our minion.

Me, a support main that started as adc and learned wave management: 😎 My adc: perma shoves the moment they see the minions 🤯

This is quite possibly the best guide I've ever seen. As a support main hovering in high plat/d4, I now realise I do some of this automatically, but am not consciously applying wave knowledge often enough. Hopefully it can help me improve.

In our defense, when passing through lower elos, we get turbo flamed for even touching the wave by some low elo adc players that also don't know wave management. It's ptsd for us xD

This is a nice guide, its not another wave control guide, it just showcase what you can do as a support. Love it more than another wave control guide for support. Thanks guys.

When you press tab as support and you see your hole team with negative kda and you know you can t do anything about it

when i actually understood that the goal of the game is to push our minions into their base is what wins us the game it changed everything...baus made me understand that if your whole team dies, but you are able to deny them wave, they cant end

How to Win with Support: Support the One Punch Man Strongest Ninja Warrior! Stop supporting only the ADC and press TAB to see who is your Big Daddy!

My playstyle is always oriented towards wave control and positioning into objectives. While we can take into account what is said in the video it is not always an option, i'm gold at the moment so by no means i'm pro but most of the essentials of supports is macro tracking, wave management and vision control. Not always do we get a nice ADC that's worth giving more attention and care than the team and we don't always have good games so don't take it against each other lol. I was hoping to see more vision tips.

Plat support here. I actually understand wave management as adc is my secondary role. The adcs I have don’t understand what it means. You leave a wave in a good spot to go roam and then they shove it. Leaving themselves too far pushed up and die for it. Only thing plat adcs understand is to shove the wave when needed. Same goes for my supports though. The amount of times a support ruins a freeze I have. Or I back with it slow pushing into me and my brand just can’t help himself but to use abilities on the wave.

ok let's talk about min 3:13 when u go roam and leave your adc alone ,if I do that not only they die 1v2 but they will int or go afk and flame me all the game and call me troll ofc even by my mid (worst scenario) 😂 I wish it was so easy but yes this video showed me I need to learn MORE

This is actually a really good video on this and now that I think back on it, when my wave control got better a few years ago, it's when I broke into Masters. Thanks Skill Capped fam!

Ok so I meant to play support this morning because of this video. But I got adc and felt comfortable about the match heading in. I already also followed your previous Sivir guide and cheater recall tips on cannon wave. Mannnnnn after I say about a week or two of practicing I finally lane dominated my opponent in extreme fashion! 17 KDA and 505 gold a minute. So I appreciate these guides because I really don’t want to be Bronze. I’d like to be at Gold this year because that seems like a reasonable goal based off my current rank of Bronze 4. Also big thanks to my Swain support. He definitely sacrificed himself to save me a few times.

I just hit silver and wave management was the next big thing I wanted to work on. This is a great video to start with!

I sometimes do the draging thing so that the wave doesnt go under tower. But after a fight I don’t know if its better to freeze or push to enemy tower. Also on top lane idk what is better. I’d think freezing is better if you can’t poke them under the tower like leona

Ok here is the issue with roaming as a support even when the wave is going to bounce back your dumb adc will always try to get that one melee creep that is going to die by walking up and inting.This happens multiples times a game and in every single game. In this video you should throw in a side remark telling adcs not to go for the one creep and just wait its going to come back to you. The 90g you get for a caddy is not wort the 300g, the exp the enemy gets, and all the exp you lose when they hard push and lose the whole wave with a gray screen.

i just started playing a few days ago and i'm obsessed i really appreciate this!

I'm the support that does good and always helps my ADC xD til they think its cute to trash me for their minor inconvenience. Then I just watch them die and feed the enemy lane while I go help the other teammates. As a support it is our job to keep the rest alive.. but we can also pick and choose who to keep alive as well.

I play Wild Rift and Holy crap. I never thought about letting the enemy sup hit me to gain wave control. I'll definitely be trying that soon. - what mostly ends up happening is the enemy sup pushes the minions without an ADC or other present (I love when they do this!). I have yet to play witha sup as ADC who will save waves for me ( it happens just very rare). What I have been doing for some time now (thanks to all these videos here on youtube) is setting up a freeze at my tower as a sup. I typically take a lot of damage just to save a few minions for my ADC. What bugs the F out of me is when I've done this work and they come back and immediately start pushing the wave, even when our match up is not favorable and/or we're getting smashed on. I'll even save minions and set up freezes for my laners when I jungle if I can help it.

I litteraly did this in a tournament game today where we faut level one and both adcs died and I baited the enemy support to auto me so the wave started to push into us. Basicly won us the lane!! Thank you!!

ok that leona and braum moment had me in awe

interesting. i already had some wave management skills cuz i used to main top but now i play thresh i didnt realize how much i could be doing with said knowledge. nice time to test this out.

Sup main here and if you start helping push the wave you get spam pinged to stop

one thing to consider when dragging the wave before backing like the amumu did is does this stacked wave create a dive opportunity. if the jungle comes along to dive the vayne at this point she will be placed so far behind its not funny.

Me on support with 0 kills 19 assists and an 80 vision score at 25 minutes and feeling like i have 0 impact 😂

My biggest issue is that none of the adcs i get matched with know how to cs and miss the last shot on minions every single time, I'll set up a huge wave for them and they'll just miss it all. Either that or my adc gets tilted when i start autoing or kiteing minions. I'm a support main yet im better at playing adc than most of the adcs i get matched with, especially in the new season.

This is actually funny, because toplane is my main and I play as a support only sometimes, when some of my friends want to switch the lane. And usually, I know wave control techniques better than my ADCs do.

as a former grandmaster, this guide is actually somewhat accurate on what presented. Wave Control as support is as important as anything. But that doesn't mean other laners won't be able to control their own minion waves to roam around elsewhere. If a midlaner ganks on top, then it's the midlaner's job to either push his wave to prevent the enemy wave from pushing to tower after he finishes the gank or secured a kill/rift herald. Roam support is good, but there are some supports who are dominant on bot lane control like sustain supports like Sona, Soraka, Bard, etc. they have better river control. as for the support ganking, it's the support's job to clear any wards from the riverside if they unlocked their support ward to get an oracle or control wards the river to prevent ganking. Grandmaster/Challenger supports usually aggros mid to top if they cleared the turret on botside and they are winning. all his ADR had to do is either wait for a dragon call or cs at that point. missing few cs just to shot call on an unimportant objective often leads to ceaseless losing of map control. it's also the support's job to make sure their side of the jungle is safe to roam around and alert the team which side of the jungle the enemies are present. like if a lot of enemies are at the red buff side, then their job is to ward some key areas where they are safe to do so or clear off any enemy wards. Point is, there's literally no reason for you to come over to someone else's lane to hold it. but in low elo, a lot of times low elo players leave their lane to chase down some kills or force fights that they cannot win, thus missing a lot of CS in the process. to overcome this, you simply have to secure a few CS on your own to support those greedy teammates until they decide to go for the objective and eventually win the game. you are a support for a reason. if you main as one, do your job and start using wards. don't just go to the jungle side where a lot of activities are present. winning teamfights is good, but it only lasts for a few seconds just enough to secure an objective. remember in league, time is money. if you're wasting your time, you're losing a lot of money.

Thank you. It really works

I find this video very informative as a support player. The low elo ADCs that i play with arent gonna like that im touching their minions

6:41 yup, I think the main reason that "even if a support has played another lane and knows wave management" they still don't hit the wave due how toxic adcs are with their minions. How do I know this? I'm a bot main, when I go adc and have to crash I ping my wave. 4 out of 5 times my support understands and starts attacking the wave as well, if they do, that's a gg from me. Unless they flame anyone.

Very nice support the support we all need them❤❤❤

YES FINALLY A SUPPORT GUIDE

i just started support, can sombody pls explaint to me the 4 diffirent supports, im not ranked yet, but how do i do it? should i just start and get experience or? pls let me know ^^

thank you so much for making most important tipps free on youtube *mwuah*

I have never seen an ADC in my silver 2 games who was aware that hard shoving wasn’t the only viable wave management strategy. I try to help occasionally, I‘m sure I am not super good at it yet, but omfg

03:10 if you let leona vayne tower dive your xayah its gonna be hard to get the wave for her, we dont know anything about resources health/mana or levels.

Nami did the right thing, what do you mean? Cait just has to last hit, because, as you said, the ADC and Support are coming back up soon. This also enables Nami to roam to mid, mark her territory and come back to lane, AND HOPEFULLY Cait already backed and is half-way to Bot lane.

and your adc yells at you if you even touch the wave in low elo

Support is the only role you cannot learn by playing it. You have to play other roles to understand what a support should do, the importance of vision, cc, pushing/holding waves, etc. Support is so poorly designed and is such a bait role for beginners with low confidence it's mindboggling. Plus you get so bullied by your adc it's like you're barely above a cannon minion in hierarchy. After playing top I understood support so much more it's insane.

skill capped: LERN WEFF CONTRUL AS SUPP!" my adc: YOLO PUSH ALWAYS WALALALA

Peaked Plat 4 as a Top/Mid laner. Switched to Support and now I just peaked to Diamond 4. I can confirm, everything in this video si 10000% correct. Knowing how to control a wave from my mid/toplane experience def helps in the support role.

I don't know but what I do when I play mid is that I clear lanes faster than my enemy then I will be the one to help other lanes just like what the jungle would do. I think it is very crucial not to let your marksman be alone with a huge minion wave because that would be an easy dive for the enemy making your marksman get killed though it is only my deduction on support going to mid just to get an assist.

4:00 Okay, this is one of the coolest things I have ever seen, and most people don't understand this kind of thing.

what am i supposed to do when the enemy thresh/nau/blitz catches my adc and killing him and make him lose many farm & exp, should i stay in lane or leave?? last game i was playing karma & kaisa VS thresh & varus and my kaisa was like 0/5 in minute 8. with a low farm of course

No wonder ive been doing so well as support lately its probably cos i applied my wave control skills from when i was a top and jungle laner to my support role

imagine knowing wavecontrol xD I am so tired to tell adcs to freeze and not perma push like braindead!

As a support what is the best way to help a jungler who is literally getting gapped by another jungler other than warding and pinging enemy jg positions/ roams

im not sure how to consciously apply wave management at all as its more of an unconscious thing i know to do usually, its really difficult to predict exactly how a wave will be and its really difficult to learn that as well since its not taught very well either when people try to explain it, the video made sense but felt too vague and missed important info that would make it comprehensible

Adc died, I froze the wave, I backed while adc was pushing the wave up, adc died again and blame me. Love this game

The problem with skill-capped guides is that they forget they're talking about League of Legends, a very well-known game for its toxicity. Now, I won't lie, my wave management could use improvement. But how am I expected to improve when 9/10 ADCs don't want ANYONE touching the wave for ANY reason? This is like expecting someone to become better at cooking by ONLY reading cookbooks.

11:53 Didn't expected dat!

as someone that jungles, what always gets me is when people flame you for ganks, but dont set up the wave. Then act as if they can do anything as an 0/3 vlad with no items

the thing is that so many supps are just way too scared of doing any wave management or even roaming because when they do, adcs start losing their shit. they act like everything is the supports fault when really they’re just the easiest to blame

I have a 18 win streak and counting after watching the wave control guide on skill capped. Cheers

3:16 "your adc was fine" *Thats where youre wrong kid*

My problem with wave control is that almost every adc i get wants a different thing and most of the time it doesnt match the champ they play Like, ill get caitlyns who want to sit back and freeze outside our turret range for a whole 8 mins and gets mad that im trying to recall and go help herald, while the draven i get next game is pissed at me for not insta roaming at lvl 3 and thinks im trolling if were not constantly shoving waves all day. So if, no matter what i try to do, i get a slap on the wrist, might as well get a slap of the wrist for doing nothing. Edit : i forgot to add, as i started playing in a draft league, i learned rlly quick what my adc player wanted and within 3-4 matches, we went from looking like maybe the worst bot lane to 3rd best, because this time i knew that if i responded correctly to the "slap on the wrist", there would not be another one.

So you are saying only attack minions when adc isnt there, or can attack while adc is there too?

Support isnt only ment to help your teammates, but you should never forget that they are your highest priority

Don't touch MY minions!!! **Goes afk**

Wave control, the lane. Haha so true 😂

in gold i do this but adc dont know how to capitalize on this and force fights under towers so im a hardstuck gold support player lol

I love playing LOL but I don't have enough the necessity to satisfy myself, and I love to play as a support too. Love your vid

but what do I do if my adc doesn't know about the wave management?

A video on when to effectively roam and how to clearly communicate with a 2 IQ ADC pls?

I remember one situation on botlane where on gank we killed enemies but ADC died. And I shoved the neutral wave to bounce it back and got flamed for the rest of the game for touching his minions while he was dead xd

I remember I had a bronze friend I met while smurfing and he was just afking in the lane and I told him to "when you don't know what to do, just hit the fucking wave". 3 weeks later he was silver. He didn't know why he needed to hit waves even though sometimes his equally clueless adc may flame him but it did work like magic.

As a Toplane Main i mastered this, i just wanted to know how to play fights and what to do in the midgame :c. Title baited me hard, its just another wavecontrol one

Wild rift have early item that if support kill minon when have some blue ball thingy, near your ally you get 120% gold from that and your adc get same amount of the Minion if get kill, otherwise you get 50% from killing Minion if you alone or don't have that thing

Awesome !

This is all well and good, but when your ADC just hard shoves the wave no matter what... I tell them when to freeze and why, they ignore it. I roam elsewhere to try and gain my lead then the ADC feeds. I cant win these type of matchups

Yeah. I def suck as support then despite playing support 90% of the time. The only thing in my head is trying to prevent ally turrets from taking damage as much as possible and try to damage enemy's turret as much as possible

Me, an adc and a supp can say that the reason why we spam the nami with pings is because they dont know how to help push, they lower the life of the minions more than they should because they dont know how to prevent leaving a minion to a basic attack of dying. And as a supp, its not that hard, you should leave the minions up to two minion basic attacks, thats it, your adc will take it even if it doesnt have a long range ability.

this only shows perfect case scenarios. I can guarantee you that braum in low elo would not just watch and stand, so you either have the option to battle back or go back to tower which means you lose out on a lot of lasthit gold. but those scenarios aren't even mentioned, just "look how great they are, the end"

i needed this 2h ago...

Omg i do this roam thing you explained and my adc always spam pings me also if I touch the wave at all I almost always get pinged also even if they’re way too far coming from base and I just get the last hit for the gold??!!! Why are they so crazy

I remember that one rank game where I accidentally hit the minions instead of the enemy champs since i used sona's Q and immediately my adc spammed me with the ? ping and saying he lost his momentum or something lmao so I just muted the varus and somehow we won and I got an S+ and apparently my adc was shitting on my other teammates too lol

But how do you stop your negative win rate monkeys from flaming and inting?

lol. playing support is if not the most important role yet all other positions think its a nonsence. same with healers in wow, where thank fucking christ people ACTUALLY understand that it is vital part of the pvp. in league support is "the one unlucky guy who has to fill up the role" and out of anger he throws a tantrum. OR lacks the idea of responsibility to help others or just plainly does not want to since no one will praise his/hers dedication in playing good. People do not suck at support, people cba playing it well since no one appriciates what they do. Period.

graciasss mi rey :3 ty

The amount of times i played nami and hit every ability and used exhaust and did everything i can while my adc walks into a stun or fights something they cant win and then ping me why i didnt do anything while im sitting there after hitting q and ult, healing, exhausting and enchanting after pinging them back...then they ask why i even play nami without lucian adcs as if nami would be a bad support

Half the games i play i am the only one behind but i mostly win and then i am winning most if all my team is losing i really think something is up with that (as for role i play all because i bored of getting autofill have my game from one role a.k.a. i play fill)

3:16 I think the correct phrase here was "perma-shoving like an Iron 4 and getting killed by the Vayne Leona" :^)

Thank you Sonic T. Hedgehog

I was not very hard stuck sup, but it was still very useful 👌 👍

Learning wave control as a support is all well and good until you get an adc who literally perma-pushes the waves no matter what, with no regard for the enemy teamcomp or state of the game. At that point there is nothing the support player can do except do their best to ward for ganks and pray they don't get camped.

Would be very grateful if u can do a comprehensive Renata glasc guide

Actually the worst outcome at 7:45 is your ad doesn’t know wave management and blows the whole wave up and fucks the freeze

i'm actually a god at support but this bot literally goes into enemy jungle every time

This guide is useless just because of ONE rule, When your adc is alone, he dies! 1. When I stay on the line and try to control the wave and then recall, my adc has to survive 1v2 for some time. So he dies, while I am on my way back. 2. If I go roam, my adc dies. 3. Even when I go to put a damn ward in the bush, guess what happened? Yea, my adc dies. So I understood that the only way to keep my adc alive is to stay with him all the game and protect at all costs.

more about sup please, thanks

You forgot to mention that you cant play support without flaming and blame your adc for everything like soak up 4 skill shot and dying, miss every skill shot and blame the adc for it, and yeah i can go on forever. You have not master the support role until you are mastered your ego and being a degenerate toxic asshole towards your adc, and ofc blame everything on them. Then, only then you have mastered the support role and looking at the comments, feels like they have mastered the support role really well. No wonder why so many adc mains quit and just switch roles

i'm still new to the game entirely but i just get yelled at if i kill minions so i'd do the same as nami and just watch (or use abilities towards the enemies if their in lane)

when i do it ,the adc flames me for pushing the wave saying im stealing his cs lol

This is the content we want! Thanks!

These guides really need to be re made based on bronze because your teamates have completely different responses and your gameplay needs to adjust

I main Thresh and Braum and i really have issues with the adc that just want to go in every freaking time they see an enemy, even when we don't have full vision at the moment, they just want to go in with nothing and then die, blaming me