WiFi 6 or WiFi 6E Whole Home Mesh system ?
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Рік томуDid you know a WiFi 6 Whole-Home Mesh system could be better than a WiFi 6E Mesh system?!
Older technology but better?!
Please watch the video to find out why :-)
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@tim.costello Рік тому
great video - love how you deliver the info and at perfect pace. Look forward to watching more videos👍
@MJ-cg8vp Рік тому
Did not know Mo Salah has a part-time job in IT... BTW, great explanation! keep up the great work Behfor.
@Behfor Рік тому
The IT job is actually full-time, the football thing though is just a hobby!! Cheers!
@MJ-cg8vp Рік тому
@@Behfor That explains why he is low key this season.haha
@macmovieman1 Рік тому
I had to make this same exact decision about a month ago and I went with the Wi-Fi six for that very reason. Having the 5.2 GHz backhaul wirelessly works perfectly for my scenario and I have a total of three routers two of those being nodes I really wanted to go wired, but I just couldn’t pull it off. Great video with lots of detail like always. Thank you.
@Behfor Рік тому
You're very welcome! Thanks for sharing 🙂
@kroneditor9266 9 місяців тому
I really enjoy your friendly presentation style combined with excellent knowledge and graphics - thanks!
@Behfor 9 місяців тому
Glad to hear you liked the video! Thanks 👍
@TonyDL 2 місяці тому
This video cleared everything up for me! Bravo!! Thank you Behfor! 🤩
@Behfor 2 місяці тому
Glad to hear that 🙂👍
@cafelampung4717 Місяць тому
This is by far the best video explaining Wifi 6, Wifi 6E, and why quad band mesh router is better. Now I know which Mesh Wifi I should buy. Thank you.
@Behfor Місяць тому
Glad it helped! 🙂
@ehemad Рік тому
please keep going amazing stuff
@darkenergy5686 Рік тому
With my 5 to 10 year old computers and 3 to 4 year old smartphones, I'm starting to feel as if I'm living in the dark ages. Even my EVs are now 6 years old. There's just no way I can keep up with these advancements. How do you do it 🤔?
@Behfor Рік тому
You don't necessarily have to keep up with everything. I believe you should only upgrade when something doesn't work well and you know a newer technology can really help, in other words, if ain't broken don't touch it! Thanks!
@josefranciscofernandes637 Місяць тому
My family still have AC750, AC1200, AC1900, AC2100, AX1800, AX3000 made by different companies for example ASUS, TP Link, Xiaomi, Huwaei, Tenda, Wavelink all AP wired with cat 5e,6 and 7. AC Powerlines port 100 and 1000 Mbps made by. TP Link, D Link and Tenda. Router with QSO is a must to adjust bufferbloat for gamers My notebooks are wired with cat 6, the older one have USB 1000Mbps adapter because the RJ45 socket is damadge. I have replced de AC750 WiFi for WIFI 6 3000 and have the same speed of cable. my company in Portugal is Altice = Otimum Fiber Optic USA. The 2022 Notebook have WiFI5 2x2 MU WIMO, 160MHz bandwidth and have the same speed of wired rj45 cat6. The days of homemade computers since windows 3.1 to XP are over. WiFi 6 (5GHz) is enough for me. I am goig to skip Wifi6E. The W7, 320 MHz bandwidth is going to make a hudge difference. . In 2025, route similar TP-Link pair Deco BE33000 Quad-Band WiFi 7 Mesh System (Deco BE95 might be a good choice for you darkenergy. Behfor is smart with a lot of knowlwdge and maybe a MIT teacher. Good Luck
@thorium9190 5 місяців тому
The 6Ghz band has so many channels that even with a similar amount of devices connected like a 5Ghz band along with the band being used as a backhaul, there is almost no perceived drop in speed because of 7 vs 2 160Mhz wide channels on 6Ghz vs 5Ghz respectively. So in fact, that single 6Ghz band on the Wifi 6E router has more channels than both the 5Ghz channels on the wifi 6 router combined. But yes if you want the absolute best no compromise performance, get either TriBand wifi 6 or QuadBand Wifi 6E/7. You would barely notice a difference from experience because you would still have at least 3-4 or more channels free depending on how many is used for the backhaul. Also while the 6Ghz band has much weaker range, when connecting 2 routers together the connection is a much stronger 4x4 connection which allows for a greater range before performance decreases significantly compared to single devices. For me with a 1 gigabit connection the node of my router while being about 45ft apart still has a fluctuating transmission rate of 1.5-2.4gigabit and I get about 650Mbps from the node and 950Mbps from the main router
@josefranciscofernandes637 Місяць тому
If the internet speed is only Upload 35 Mbps or less? Routers are not well made and the better ones are very expensive. WiFi 7 with 320 MHz bandwidth and high gain atennas will be exellent for wireless connections.
@chuckles8519 Рік тому
What about using the 5GHz band for the backhaul and the 6GHz one for all non IoT devices? Seems like you get the benefit of the longer range between mesh nodes and still keep the faster band for devices. Is the only downside to this that some devices don't support use of 6GHz band?
@fraliexb Рік тому
In your examples for using 6E as gaming PC??? Wouldn't you run CAT5 cable for your PCs?
@sp277 5 місяців тому
Great explanation. Thank you.
@Behfor 5 місяців тому
You're very welcome!
@gcjackofalltrades Рік тому
What is the mesh system you recommend For best stability Speed
@josefranciscofernandes637 Місяць тому
Exellent info.Thank You.
@Behfor Місяць тому
Glad you liked it 👍
@DJleDev Рік тому
can you max out 6Ghz band with backhaul and dl/up at the same time?
@keshavsfunactivities4757 11 місяців тому
Question- I have 2 ET8 and need one for my basement. Do you think ET8 or XT9?
@yamin2000 4 місяці тому
hi can you recommend node for ASUS RT-AX86u?
@jacobspang21 Рік тому
Great video thank you!!
@Behfor Рік тому
Glad you liked it, thanks 🙂
@Imranbashir31 2 місяці тому
Hi please help I have Asus RT AXE7800 6E set up but need to add a mesh node will XT8 6600 work well orXT9 but they are both wifi 6 or shall I just get another 6E router because they won’t work well with backhaul ?
@Ak-47ram 4 місяці тому
If i have a Wi-Fi 7 router backhaul wired into a Wi-Fi 6 node will i still get the benefit of Wi-Fi 7 through my node? or should i set up the Wi-Fi 7 as a node since most of my devices and PC that will benefit are closer to the node than the router? thank you
@NotHimJim Рік тому
I have the AXE16000, but now I'm wondering what to add as a wired node. I was thinking the AX6000, but am I losing out here by not having another AXE device as a node?? (Thanks)
@Nur__ Рік тому
If it’s a mesh system just add the one he used for example in the video. Asus has great stuff!
@Silent1Majority Рік тому
Damn Excellent 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@Behfor Рік тому
Glad you liked it, thanks :-)
@GostFlash Рік тому
What about dual band mesh networks?
@tomconnell7154 Місяць тому
I have a question - I already own the ASUS RT-AX86U - If I purchased the ROG Rapture GT-AXE16000 can I use both together as a mesh system ?
@jayk3519 Місяць тому
Yes
@toolate6971 11 місяців тому
I use wired backhaul, which, as you say, makes all the difference.
@Behfor 11 місяців тому
Perfect! Thanks for sharing 🙏
@Dominus_Potatus Рік тому
I change from TP Link to Asus because of you and Asus Firmware is sure superior, updated to Merlin, It is spectacular
@Behfor Рік тому
Glad you like your Asus router, thanks :-)
@GreenLantern1971. Рік тому
Hello, I have the asus gt ax11000 and I am not impressed with the speeds at all. I have the 1 gig plan that is the fastest available for a home consumer. Is there another router that has the same internal parts that is less expensive. I am considering returning it.I only manage to get about 580 download and about 40 upload.
@catmuf Рік тому
Are you using wireless what you've described the 540 Mbps? If you so, try to tweak on Asus wireless settings.
@4givenoxygenbarez Рік тому
Wont the speed capacity of the backhaul 5.oGhz linit the speed of 6.0Ghz?
@Behfor Рік тому
no they are 2 different bands which do not interfere with each other.
@4givenoxygenbarez Рік тому
@@Behfor thank you for the clarification.. But to clarify as well.. if there are 2 5.0 or 6.0Ghz in a system.. would the lower speed one affect the higher speed one when used as a backhaul given that they are at the same bandwidth in that scenario?
@Behfor Рік тому
Each frequency band ( for example 2.4ghz , 5 ghz or 6 ghz), each one has different channels. So as long as 2 x 5ghz bands use different channels they do not interfere with each other and do not have a negative effect on each other, however if their channels overlap each other, then there will be a negative effect. You just need to make sure you are using different channels, some tri- band routers automatically try to use different channels for example in my second last video I reviewed a Asus gt6 which does that. Hope it makes sense.
@4givenoxygenbarez Рік тому
@@Behfor so a 5.0 Ghz with 1Gbps speed can be used as backhaul instead of 5.0Ghz with 4Gbps speed?
@johnw65uk Рік тому
I tried asus WiFi 6e but wasn’t any improvement over 6, I think it’s all just a but marketing con by companies. I’ll try again with WiFi 7 in a few years.
@tajdvl-advocate6113 11 місяців тому
Best solution is an ET implementing a MoAC backhaul that connects to the 2.5G LAN port of the parent node and to the 2.5G WAN port of the child or children modes. Yes, the XT is better right now with 2, 4 antenna 5G radios but it is not future proof. Further, the 5G spectrum space is currently over utilized and this problem is exacerbated by high density housing. 4 band mesh system also are just too expensive right now to be worth the added cost, especially given that a MoCA backhaul solution is superior to a wireless backhaul anyhow.
@trippplefive Рік тому
why do they call it wifi 6 again? a dedicated 5ghz band for backhall = wifi 6? but wifi 6e actually has a usable wifi 6 band for newer devices? this is all a confusing mess for me edit: ok, to anybody who's interested: wifi 5 = ac (5ghz), wifi 6 = ax (5ghz), wifi 6E = ax extended, (which is 5.9ghz to 7.2ghz)
@sagetechnology4913 Рік тому
I mean, I'd use the 2.4GHz for backhaul, and configure all of the IOT devices to use the 5GHz band if they are in range, or to use an extender (as a mesh bridge) and a network switch to connect them to ethernet if possible, for either mesh system. I do also believe such a solution would reduce sticky clients. And it would be the best for routers that are far away and/or separated by obstacles that are hard to penetrate, such as concrete walls.
@Behfor Рік тому
Do all IoT devices support the 5 GHz band? I don't think so! The 2.4GHz for backhaul means a huge bottleneck which is not recommended, unless there is a specific case where 2.4GHz is the only option.
@Ignotus. Рік тому
That sounds like a very ineffective way of doing it
@sagetechnology4913 Рік тому
@@Behfor I mean, if if the nodes are really far from each other and/or separated by multiple thick concrete walls, and there aren't many IoT devices (which is the most common scenario I run into when working on other people's networks). Then I think it's probably the best option for that use case.
@Dominus_Potatus Рік тому
2.4 Ghz with Wifi N, I believe only provide at best 600 Mbps with 4x4 which is rare configurations. The point is, it is just not enough bandwidth to act as backbone.. 600 Mbps must be shared for downstream and upstream. The only case where 2.4GHz is better for backhaul is when you have to put 2 wireless mesh at the very long distance from each other. Still need to consider that more range means more potential for interference. IoT is not using a lot of bandwidth, so it is perfect at 2.4GHz
@sagetechnology4913 Рік тому
@@Dominus_Potatus You realize that the 802.11ax standard applies to 2.4GHz as well, and with a 4T4R can get get close to 1200Mbps right?
@user-ip1zv5kp8d 2 місяці тому
deco xe75 pro
@MrJibJub13 Рік тому
all these new wifi standard are almost useless endless the device connecting the the wifi also has it and that is still not common. wifi 6e is almost useless here in the eu because the walls are made of brick. 5ghz already has such a hard time getting though. 6ghz is just useless for me here. so i agree having wifi 6 mesh system is better then a 6e. but all these new standards are not very stable for me. i have a wifi 6 mesh in my house and we have a 2017 macbook that would just disconnect and reconnect all the time. turns out running the mesh system in the older standards only (ac+n) fixed that problem. now i can’t use my new wifi 6 without buying a new laptop. so in the end they are both useless for me although i wish i could use wifi 6 for my mesh system for better speeds between the wireless access points.
@macmovieman1 Рік тому
I only buy ASUS products and would love to see a quad banned from them.
@rudymaldonado667 Рік тому
Question: if the 5GHz band is used for the backhaul, won't the throughput of the 6GHz band be limited to that of the 5GHz? I understand networking is full of compromises so I'm only asking out of curiosity.
@georgelewisray Рік тому
MESH Compare/Contrast . . . . . OH Yes Please !
@adrianrubio408 Рік тому
FIRST!
@LuckyNikitaBoba Рік тому
You’re an ASUS fanboy. 😂 I’m joking. Are you Persian? I love Persian food! Rack of Lamb. Yum!
@Behfor Рік тому
I'm more like a good product fanboy, don't really care what the brand is. Yes I was born in Iran :-)
@Dominus_Potatus Рік тому
Let's be honest AsusWRT Firmware is the best and user friendly, you can literally do things that you haven't thought, yet. Tried TP-Link, It is great but it is sad that you can't have Mesh system with cable with it, which I really need for my home. The only downside of AsusWRT firmware is it has long reboot time... TP-Link will reboot in less than 30s, Asus is more than a minute. Some settings need confirmation and TP-Link can do it practically instanous while Asus has a lot of loading. But Asus sure has everything
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