"He wears the Conqueror's crown, wields the Conqueror's sword, has the Conqueror's name"

"Black or red, a dragon is still a dragon." - Illyrio Mopatis

Everyone ask where is Blackfyre, but nobody ask *how* is Blackfyre?

Correction: Illyrio told Tyrion that Maelys the Monstrous's death was the end of the male line of House Blackfyre, not the female line.

Glidus said to me that blackfyre was actually a horse

The Valyrian steel artifact I'm most excited to see, potentially, is that Valyrian steel battle axe House Celtigar has. I seen it suggested on another channel that Victarion Greyjoy could end up possessing it, and I think that'd be pretty badass if it happened.

I find it amusing, and its likely an intended irony by GRRM that the most famous sword in the whole setting not only has gone missing, but has also barely seen use its its long history. And the one group who did wield it and took their name from it, caused more trouble for the realm that anything since, and nearly all of them died doing so.

Have they tried looking under the Couch?

I think the secret to making Valyrian steel is forging regular steel with dragon fire. The dragon fire magically makes the steel lighter stronger and sharper. Which brings me to the theory that the Iron Throne is made of Valyrian Steel. All of those swords were bathed repeatedly with dragon fire and even though the throne is hundreds of years old the edges are still sharp. How many times has it been mentioned in ASOIAF that a king or queen cuts themself on the throne? Regular steel would have gone dull by now just sitting there but Valyrian steel would have held it’s edge. I guess what I’m getting at is if the people of Westeros get their heads out of their asses they can equip an army with Valyrian steel to fight the others when winter comes. That would be sick af!

One point to remember that whether Blackfyre or Targaryen young Griff has Valyrian blood and one of the dragons may bond to him which along with having Blackfyre and the support of the Golden Company would give that faction an almost unassailable claim to the throne. The Golden Company will also after long service of battles in the East will have experience of dealing with Dothraki(it has exiled Dothraki members)for example having war elephants which terrify horses by their presence

I hope it ends up with young griff, it will be great for him to conquer king landing and be crowned with all the symbols of the king to fulfil Vary's dream of creating something out of nothing using symbols of power. Long live Aegon!

One theory I had with the burning of King's Landing is wildfire by Aegon. When Aegon takes kings landing, Jon Connington's grayscale starts to infect the city at the same time Daenerys marches on King's Landing. So when she starts the siege, Aegon and most of his army is gone (left before the battle due to grayscale outbreak), but when Daenerys breaches the wall Jon Connington would light off the wildfire burning King's Landing and some of Daenerys's army. And Daenerys would be blamed for it.

I once read a version of the Night-Lamp-Theory that Stannis will use Lightbringer to signal to his troops to fire catapults at the Freys as they cross the frozen lake. It would make for quite the parallel if Aegon rode out onto the Battle of Steel with Blackfyre at the same time that Stannis goes into the the Battle of Ice with his Valyrien steel sword.

I wish Blackfyre is with Aegon/Faegon and he is a Blackfyre, Dark Sister in the north with Bloodraven goes to Jon and the prophecy dagger ends up with Dany, then the 3 of them fullfill the prophecy and finally unite the Targaryens and Blackfyres, you get a dragon and you get a dragon, Valar Morghulis, Valar Dohaeris, Daemon The Rogue Prince smiling up at them from hell!!

4:25 wasn’t it the male line that was extinct? So the idea is the Idea is that Young Grift is the son of a daughter of a Blackfyre

As soon as you said Blackfyre is currently in Storm’s End I thought of Preston Jacobs saying “I can’t imagine why blackfyre would be there” in that exact Glidus video, so you can imagine my delight at the reference (Very Delighted).

A different theory that I've heard is that the Blackfyre which was invited to join the Great Council which would eventually select Aegon V "The Unlikely", had brought Blackfyre with him as a symbol of legitimacy to use at the council, but when Bloodraven attacked him at the docks, had to quickly pass the sword off to someone who hid it in Kings Landing somewhere, potentially Rhaenys' Hill or Visenya's Hill as there's plenty of secret tunnels and caves in both. Though honestly whilst the other one has an air of mysticism around it, it doesn't make as much sense as Illyrio having the sword. Especially if you believe the theory that Illyrio married the last female Blackfyre and that their kid is fAegon and that he promised her that he'd put their child on the throne of Westeros. So most likely the sword is in Storm's End waiting to be handed to Aegon VI.

There is so much symbolism in various swords throughout the series. I've seen theories that Jon will be the Ptwp wielding LongClaw, Dawn, or Blackfyre. While I would love to see these swords have bigger roles, and others like Lady Forlorn and Dark Sister, I think George lays these seeds associated with classical heroes and intentionally avoids them. Either way this was a great video, keep it up!

I know we aren't supposed to look to the show for theories but is it possible that Joncon knows Cersei will blow up the Sept (with Margery inside) through Varys and that's why he plans to meet the Tyrells in open combat, to convince them to march against Cersei for killing one of the Tyrell's most powerful and important members

I'm quite sure illyrio has it, or probably young Griff(his son) by now

In fact the whole Dance of the Dragons seems like a great parallel to the main series, there are a lot of similarities including characters, plotlines, betrayals, etc.

I have a different theory about this Second Dance of Dragons. I think we’re not going to get a showdown between (f)Aegon and Dany-I find it far more thematically appropriate if Jon Con’s greyscale causes a plague that kills his surrogate son. As Dany’s army approaches and Young Griff breaths his last, Jon Con in his grief- and disease-addled madness causes the caches of wildfire to go off, a horrifying funeral pyre for his beloved King.

My prediction is that (f)Aegon is Azor Ahai. There isnt very much evidence for it but I think it would be cosmically poetic if Bloodraven was wrong all along. We know that Bloodraven has been plotting to create Azor Ahai for decades, creating massive wars to achieve this end. He believes that Azor Ahai must come from the blood of ice (stark) and fire (targaryen). Along this chaotic path, Bloodraven killed his brother, Daemon, and worked tirelessly to undermine and contest his other brother, Bittersteal. From the books, this decision from Bloodraven appears to be solely based off of his love for Seastar and hatred of Bittersteal. Bloodraven acts like he does everything for the good of the realm, but I believe he does everything for Seastar. I think it would be cosmically poetic if Azor Ahai was actually (f)Aegon. If Aegon is a blackfyre and is azor ahai, then despite Bloodraven’s attempts to create Azor Ahai, he was actually hindering it all along, causing wonton violence and starting wars for nothing. Another layer would be that Bloodraven would be on the wrong side of history. Perhaps the point is that the ends dont justify the means, it doesnt matter who sits upon the throne, and you cant play god, which are all themes that contradict Bloodraven’s character

Very informative and great pacing, ill be a new sub brother

Oh yes, have been waiting for that!

If the Martell's had Aegon's crown, would they not of given it to Daeron the Good when he married Mariah Martell or sometime after to counter Daemon having the sword Blackfyre? It's possibly it was not found until long after or in the hands of Blackfyre supporters like the Yronwoods perhaps.

This was great. Loved the references to others and their theories and the fleshing out of your own thoughts around that. The HOTD was a GREAT call out. 🔥 (Dark Sister is with Bloodraven in his cave…)

Great stuff, as usual! I too watched that Glimbo video you mention way too many times and I could basically hear that Alt Schwift imposter's voice in my head "Blackfyre is in Storm's End?" - cue disbelief. Then as much as now I didn't see what was so strange about that - good on you for taking action and finally developing this subdezvoltate theory. Also, make a video about Darksister pls! That's my drakthyr's name and it was shocking how few people (nerds) had ever heard about it.

Excellent video, Quinn! It would definitely be a cool reminder of that excellent line from Otto in HOTD if Faegon manages to get Aegon the Conqueror's crown. One thing I hope that would happen as well is that whatever happens to Faegon in Winds, I hope somehow Dany gets Blackfyre. It would be cool to have an actual, true Targaryen wield that legendary sword again after 100 years of it being lost. It probably won't happen, but a fan can dream lol! :)

would love a Dark Sister video from you. actually any video would be great. go crazy dude

You’re quickly becoming one of my favorite ice and fire UKpostsrs . Keep it up man!

i really want to see the follow up video on doark sister too!!

9:45 - slight issue, in this case, if Young Griff is truly Aegon VI, then his claim is *far* superior to Daenerys's claim.

Hey, lovvvvvvve the Blackfyre in Storms End theory! Also, Ariane giving F-Aegon the missing crown via Prince Dad.. love it! I just realized, f is the sixth letter! For the Sixth Aegon! Okay, digression aside, the crown... especially if Quentyn's escort report to Dad that Danny laughed "in scorn" at him, so Dorne throws in with Golden Co.! I love the implications, but I want Aegon and Dany to make peace. Who knows, maybe prince that was promised could fall to Y Griff. . . I didn't explain that well.

Wasn't sure if I was clicking on a ASOIAF video or The Colour and The Shape, but either way it's a win

Could you get into the possible battles in twow if you haven't already (new to the channel) like the battle of steel and the outcomes that we may see for the battles of ice and blood. Thank you and great video

It is absolutely amazing that Glimbo's crackpot video resulted in this fantastic video.

4:58 Alt Shifts X's cameo was unexpected 😍

0:03 Qohor's smiths, at least some of them, still know how to make and manipulate Valyrian steel. Tywin calls some to King's Landing to reforge Ice into Widow's Wail and Oathkeeper.

Daemon Blackfyre should have been the rightful king because his mother was the rightful queen whose throne was usurped from her by her uncle (Aegon the Uhworthy's father) Viserys II. Of course, Viserys and Aegon being illuminate rulers means that Aegon should not have been able to legitimize Daemon, but I suspect Daena the Defiant would have legitimized him if she had been properly recognized as the ruling queen.

fAegon has Blackfyre, Meera will get Dark Sister during whatever happens in the cave that cause Hodor to hold the door. Darkstar will steal and wield ‘Dawn’

I've always believed Aegon already has the conqueror's crown. It's said that he waers three large square cut rubies, which to me always pointed to depictions of the conqueror's circlet, which contains square cut rubies of an unknown amount.

I was hoping Ser Barristan would claim it on behalf of King Jahaerys after slaying Maelys Blackfyre.

I think valyrian steel is made from obsidian/dragonglass and iron with the obsidian acting as the carbon inpurity instead for regular steel. Maybe because obsidian is famously brittle it was required to layer it with less brittle steel. Nothing is quite sharp like valyrian steel and obsidian can fracture down to 500 times sharper than steel

Darksister video please! For me, Longclaw is Darksister, that has been passed from lord commander to lord commander of the NW since Bloodraven.

Only extinct through the male line *not female

If you like X's Varys video, Kevin Pendragon here on youtube does an even better one (imo) I would highly highly recommend it. Im currently doing research on a Blackfyre/Varys/Illyrio video so that lead me here XD

IMO. Aegon IV though i may not be a great King but my sons would be, Daeron as the King and Daemon as his enforcer and with the help of his other brothers Argors as military strategist council and with Bryde. As the Master of Whispers the realms would be ties together. Bryden: that i allow brother against brother??? At once dad Aegor: that i put my two brothers against each other and so take the powers to me and put a puppet as king hell yes!

If the Blackfyres get the throne does that mean that Daenerys will lead Targaryen rebellions in Westeros?

“I wish you good fortune in the wars to come”

I actually think Aegon is the real deal and will win the throne for a time, maybe die shorty after or something. Jon being Aegon the seventh would be super significant especially if he ends up with blackfyre

Fun Detail: When Daeron I goes to Dorne to try and conquer it he dies with the sword and the crown. However, the family only retries Blackfyre, but not the crown. Where is the crown?

i haven't read the books my theory is the pro Targaryen faction lead by Varys have many plans going at once, young giff is one plan and Daenerys other plan. each have a symbols of Targaryen Daenerys have dragons and young giff have the sword. The end game to have both marry each other to stop a civil war.

great

Bro u smart as hell

Hey I’m sure it was already said in the comments. But the Blackfyre line is extinct in the male line not the female.

I swear, I thought I heard somewhere about one of the Blackfyres leaving their eponymous sword behind before making their claim at the Great Council that crowed Egg. Anyone know what I’m talking about?

Random question but what other ASoIaF UKpostsrs do you watch? Any recommendations?

The sword and the crown were the other to items haldon hinted

Though I like Blackfyre, I prefer Dark Sister because it would be more versatile and better in combat.

4:22 I think you misspoke, Illyrio Mopatis said that the Blackfyres were only extinct in the *male* line, hinting at the female one having survived

Having Blackfyre would not be as much an indication that he is a Targaryen as that he’s a Blackfyre.

Bran could also ask Brynden Rivers where he has hidden Dark Sister.

If Illierio has a sword it more likely blackfyre Bc dark sister is in the north

You know when you say that young griff is a blackfyre impersonating a targarian. Am I right in thinking that they are blood wise both targarian and differ only in name?

What about Dark Sister??

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Better question would be Where is Winds of Winter ?

If the Martells had Daeron's crown surely it would have been given along with Elia or one of the much earlier Targaryen-Martell marriages, no?

I could b wrong but I thought the last known holder of blackfyre was Brendyn rivers. Could b dark sister ig but I was pretty sure he took blackfyre to the wall with him

@4:25 you say that Illyrio said that the Blackfyre line is only extinct in the female line. But it is actually the male line that is extinct

When and where did G.R.R Martin state that there would be a 2nd Dance of the Dragons? Is this some blog-post stuff? How would there be a 2nd Dance? With what dragons? 2 dragons fighting each other (with what reason?!) is a clash at best, never a dance.

I'm confused when you say Blackfyre is "in Storm's end held by Aegon", when Aegon isn't in Storm's End, he's in Griffin's Roost at the end of Dance, planning to take Storm's End. Did you mean to say Griffin's Roost? I'm not familiar with the spoiled Winds chapters.

I hope that Aegon is real. It would make no sense for Varys to lie to a dying man. Why not state it as it is if Aegon was not the real Aegon? Kevan was not going to tell anybody anyway.

Quaithe also warned about a mummers dragon

Hot take: It is totally possible that Illyrio Mopatis of all people is simply lying about the blackfyres being dead in the male line.

Did anyone found Dark Sister after Daemon's and Aemond's clash,it should be somewhere arround God's eye teritory

Team Blackfyre 🙋‍♂

@4:28 only extinct in the male line, not female. @4:56 why would a false dragon mean a Blackfyre? They're equally descended from dragonlords. @9:46 no, if Aegon is a Targaryen, he has the better claim in any case. If he is a Blackfyre, that's just the normal debate then (#teamBlackfyre!) Apart from that, the video was fine. The crown part was neat and makes sense. Not to say it's a given, but it's plausible.

It’s interesting that there are no mentions of Maelys the monstrous using Blackfyre during the war of nine Penny kings, why wouldn’t he use it and since he didn’t then who had blackfyre and when did they receive it

I know this has nothing to do with the video but I hope Jon's Targ name is Daemon.

4:25 i think you meant to say "only extinct in the male line" meaning that Daemon's female descendants could have had Aegon instead of one of his male descendants having him with some other woman

When FAegon gets to the throne, Dany crosses the sea. I'm sure stannis will shatter his teeth

Do you think that the black fish took Jane Westerling and Jane that Jimmy saw it's fake, and maybe the real Jane Westerling is pregnant, and maybe she's carrying a son. Do you think Melisandra will try to burn Robb Stark's baby, but Jon will stand up to Stannis? Please make a video about it 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

Blackfrye is inside us all

Blackfyre is actually the opposite of a symbol of legitimacy, as is the Golden Company.

Dany doesn’t have a Dothraki horde, more like an army of eunuch’s, and three young dragons.

What if Blackfyre isn't in possession of the Golden Company? The drafted Chapter for Tyrion where Illyrio mentions the gifts for Young Griff was cut out for a reason. I think GRRM changed his mind about Blackfyre being in the possession of Illyrio. It is quite interesting that both Swords that were in the possession of the Targaryen Family disappeared when Bloodraven was the last one to see them. Bittersteel came back during the 3rd Blackfyre-Rebellion with Haegon I. Who surrendered and gave up his Sword, before he was dishonourably killed. I think that Sword was the Bastard-Sword Blackfyre, we also have another Valyrian-Bastard-Sword called Longclaw at the Wall. Where were the Mormonts during that Blackfyre-Rebellion? I mean a poor (because Bear Island has not had a lot of resources) and small House, that can trace its Ancestors to the First Man and show a fighting woman with a Child at her Breast, not with a family bastard Sword but with an Axe at the Gate to their Hall, has a Valyrian-Steel Sword? That thing was most likely stolen or "found" on a Battlefield. And the Mormonts changed the hilt and put the Bear pommel on it and claimed to have it for 500 years. No one can say otherwise when it was rarely used outside the Family until no one knew any better and just accepted that the poor Mormonts came to its possession somehow. In the Text, we have few to no descriptions of Blackfyre, only that no one could have mistaken it for another Sword and that it is a Bastard Sword. And that Aegon rarely used it and preferred to use Balerion the Dread. I think GRRM wanted to avoid the Blackfyre-Connection because he wanted to be vague with Aegons Backstory because that would be more interesting, he was right, look at all the Discussions about that small Character. Btw we only have an answer from GRRM from 2018 to a Fan that Brynden took Dark Sister with him to the Wall, okay ADWD came out in 2011, but GRRM left this part of the Draft out for a Reason, most likely to avoid Connections between Aegon and the Blackfyres. So the Answer from GRRM doesn't mean that Illyrio has Blackfyre. It just means that in this Draft there is a Sword, most likely a Valyrian Steel Sword, that can be said to be Blackfyre because no one knows what Blackfyre looks like. I think a Mormont "found" Blackfyre on the Battlefield (or they took it and hide it away when Haegon gave it up), took it with him/her to Bear Island, changed the appearance of the hilt and the Pommel and only showed up with it a hundred years later when no one knew what Blackfyre looked like. Otherwise, please explain to me how a small and poor House like the Mormonts of Bear Island came into the possession of a Valyrian Steel Sword?

Winds of winter may give the answers. Every Blackfyre was defeated by targaryns. Daenerys and Jon Snow the real targaryns will join and defeated the others. Bloodraven aka three eyed raven is still watching the kingdom with his Dark Sister. He will give it to Dany . Dance of the dragons was a fight between Blackfyre and Dark Sister.

Still, I think it is this longclaw in the books.

I think Jon has dark sister

I didn't like the House of the Dragon design for Blackfyre. I was hoping we could get a new design for it for another adaptation.

I swear the crown got melted down into a sword. look it up on the wiki.

Why did he give the eggs to Dany

My personal belief has always been. Danny will have the dragons, Aegon will have the crown (from dorne) and Jon has Blackfyre (Longclaw is Blackfyre). The sword of legitimacy being accidentally returned to the rightful heir.

I'm more interested in Dark Sister

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Blackfyre is longclaw. Ain’t no way a Valyrian steel sword just ends up all the way in bear island

Not to be the pedantic one ( that would be a great title for a book!) but you said, "the Blackfyres were only extinct in the Female line"... I hope folks aren't hammering you over that.

The Blackfyre stuff is a giant red herring. The story is more interesting if he’s legit