@@kaivogel253 why are you watching these videos or more exactly commenting? Your under multiple comments insulting these two. I get you don‘t like them but you won’t convince people to not listen to them with your comments, you are probably doing the opposite. If you‘re just having a bad day and need to get it out, there are more productive ways to do it. Sometimes I fall into that myself in comment sections but it’s a waste of time and in the end 30 minutes are gone with nothing to show. Don’t let yourself get trapped in that shit. It‘s a waste of precious time. Just block video recommendations and spend your time with videos that speak to you.

​@@kaivogel253I hope one day you get help to work through your anger. I'd suggest understanding your shadow self and then work on integrating it. You may find it useful rather than spend your time slandering others online. But you do you.

@@kaivogel253 what are you even doing here, be on your merry way and do something you like

Well said, I was also an excited interrupter with good intentions and needed someone to bring it to my attention.

I agree with this feedback and believe it to be very constructive criticism.

I felt the same about Jordan’s interest of Robert’s mindset and ideas in a way that he cannot wait to show his agreement with what he is saying

The man had a conversation based on his accomplishments and shared it for free with us. He is not an entertainer or talk show host

That's how he really shows he is an extravert. It's always much mor eof a conversation instead of an interview.

Factz I think he wants to be the center of attention I think he is just insecure n hasn’t learn to play the host role yet

Exactly I wish Jordan would have let Robert speak a little more. Jordan was like constantly interrupting Robert and barely even let him finish the sentence

I’ve just discovered Robert. I’m so in love with his approach and practice to life. I have to have his books

bro is the devil 😂

​@@ahammouda00 Jordan? Yes Robert? He's an Angel

Zen.

Strategist

Law 4 and law 35

As do I.

Probably smokes a ton of weed.

Me too!!!

I did the same! 🖤

Lmaooo I literally screamed too!!

Haven’t watched yet but this has got to be one of the best collaborations of all time!

Yes

@@kaivogel253 Monsters? haha. deadly trolling.

Professor J Peterson is no only an academic but a truly down to earth guy who speaks in layman’s terms but perhaps more importantly his honesty and directness are key to his success. Sadly in today’s modern world where many parents forget what their role is and choose to be “friends “ with their offspring (this is more common with mother and daughter relationships), and teachers and other figures of authority sugar coating everything rather than being honest. Young people thrive on honesty, direction and structure and in some cases discipline not gimmicks and not promoting girls at the expense of boys.

@@kaivogel253 Your mama Merkel and your daddy Schröder are two monsters. They paved the way for Putin! So "set your house in order before you criticize the world"!

@@kaivogel253 I've seen you spreading these type of comments everywhere. Why do you think they're monsters? Why are you bothered?

@@thiagomuniz8607 He is just a troll desperate for attention, which is why he trolls.

I'm in that same position now. I'd love to collaborate with you on a way through this.

That’s amazing, I’m proud of you! That shit is hard, I still struggle to communicate my needs and sometimes in a healthy way. My close friends have helped me a lot

To the degree you went to describe your own situation, i felt that connection, i'm not gonna assume anything but just lay out my own because these words feel like have been with me all along. A shadow almost. i'm 21 now, a guy, even now i struggle to describe my own father. I feel weird for struggling to describe it because i can do it and just jump straight to it and yet i feel the need to make it clear where the stake is exactly piercing. How do you describe Aggressiveness, Violence without inserting that you were threatened or beaten or getting any sort of physical. In fact i feel that lack of physical violence is extremely important to describe a person such as MY father. Living in this household, family, i often have to remind myself of what isn't normal. One time i was 16ish i remember hearing my mom and dad have a sharp vocal issue with one and other in the middle of the night and i'm just sitting next room on my computer, pull out my earphones and think to myself, why am i not nervous, on edge hearing my father threaten my mother. Murderous language was something that was heard on the daily. This must not be normal, i wonder how will this pan out for me if i'm in a relationship, i thought that to myself.. Spoilers, never gotten into one Under 40 year of marriage, My father never hit my mother, never hit my older brother and sister, he have only hit me twice, because i told him the fuck off, for that he only uses his brutish force on objects, on the house, on the house that wasn't ours, burning the money that could've got us mansions over the years, i was sickeningly worried about these things because my mom was sickeningly worried it about it, imagine my 15y old ass unable to do anything really, be consumed by these worries. My mother was actually shocked that happened, because hes a imbecile, a coward who's all mouth, a child who needs the most attention and is always right or else throws a tantrum, how come he has actually come to physicality. I kinda make fun of that event when i tell it saying; my drunk father came up to me, spinned like 3 times with his arm out, of course for balance he did it slowly to make sure he doesn't fall, on the third spin he put his hands on my face, i bet he learned it from old jackie chan action movies because watching crap on a tablet / TV is what he spends his time on instead of actually learning martial arts. So that tickles some the dark humor part of my brain. Hes not bad, if a younger self of his would see himself he would probably do better or possibly sink into it even further.. Sad reality is that hes a 62y old alcoholic chain smoker who's been at it since 18, looking at him now, talking to him is sad, his consciousness is not a 100% even sober, people die smoking after 5-10y this bastard lived over 40y smoking 40-80g of tobacco a day with many bottles of wine and strong spirits to go with it, he probably himself carries it from his own father. Hes not that bad really, hes sweet to my sister, sweet to each of us his kids really but we can only be babies around him with no serious thoughts, no opposing tastes. Mom got the worst side of him, a liar, deflecting, accusatory, he would blame the stars on mom, he have this unique sets of words that is only used when mom is in the context, if there were a hole to hell in the ground he would look at it, and say "That's your moms habbit to put it here". People, friends that get to know the story assume the two are separated, and be utterly shocked when i tell how it actually is. Marriage +40y strong, add that to one other strangely abnormal things that seemed normal to me. That this is the family, the one and only.. Mom about 3-4 months ago said something to me i didn't realize i wanted to hear "I'm sorry for not leaving him, for you to have to live like this" She says.. She pitied him.. That reminded me of a story where i was still a baby and they did separate, where i fell in a depressive state for weeks and asked about dad, where's dad. Wich motivated her to try again.. Well if people were to ask what would you do with a time machine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Woah I did the same in childhood but thought it was just me because my siblings went other routes

Congratulations to both of you with the marriage.

Fantastic comment ❤

@@kaivogel253 It sounds like you don't like to see people seeking information/guidance? LOL, If this isn't for you personally then just go away, nobody is forcing you. You shouldn't waste your time with this attention seeking behaviour anyway, especially if you already know everything about everything. Others here are busy trying to look for various ideas to be an even better version of themselves. You are just annoying them with these clearly made up, temporary notions of yours. It's nothing useful, nor is it effective.

@@kaivogel253 Says the widdle baby that's been crying all over the comment section... You're not a real serious individual, it could've done you good to actually listen to the two talk, but that's still pearls before swine I guess. Chao.

@@kaivogel253 You can only say that if you watched the whole thing and if so, you just gave those 2 the money ;). If you didn't, you gained nothing and lost time writing a comment. Nice

It's simple. Though life is very complex. If you can consider these ideas, think them through. Hard to find error here. Try it out, a little bit at a time. Truth takes time for ALL humans, all the time.

There is a dark side to everyone. It's common sense. Devil or dark side, same thing.

Ditto, heavyweights for sure.

I am going to look him up!

One of my favorite authors for sure, too!

@@tammys8711 you should definitely look him up.

😀😀😀😀

I would love Peterson break Down my mindset online or offline!!

They should collab on a book lol

Nah Jordon Peterson is pretentious and is a pseudo intellectual. Here, he barely let Greene finish his topics. He just wanted to drag his own thing

@@gamerdude4465 hes very complicated. He means well, Im sure. But he has much anger in him. but his words do ring true. Brilliant and troubled. A modern day Alan Watts I see in him.

Agreed. He's in my top 5, if not number one.

the fucking cringelord?

...More respect than to be dissected by JP instead of interviewed

Jordan Rat Peterson: "My message to the Hungarians. Do not rebel against your dear prime minister! What your leader is trying to restore the metaphysical foundation of the Hungarian culture" Another well payed guest of Fűrer Orban in the Nazi eagle nest, the Fűrer-Castle of Buda, Father Jim Blount from the USA: "I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your prime minister. Another name for Jesus is Viktor."

Those who know, know.

Agreed. There's a lot of interrupting. I think it's particularly bad here because Peterson has expertise in subjects that Greene is talking about so he feels compelled to show it. But as a consequence we don't to hear what Greene was going to say. It's poor conversation technique.

that really sad that JP cant live up to your expectation.... its not like this is free to watch. i will write a letter to him. becuse im also very disapointed that you are disapointed in JP...

@@Torsdagskvallsmys So do you think JP has a habit of interrupting or not?

@@shamusenright5387 definatly not... only nervousnes

@@Torsdagskvallsmys Cool. I appreciate the letter. It would be surprising if there weren't alternative views.

I had a narc supervisor who almost killed me.

@@amandaa3713 did Greene's books help?

@@patmanpatmanson I just learned about the book from this video. I plan to get it. I think it would help even though I have already figured things out (out of necessity) that they talked about.

yea narcs are dangerous people

@@patmanpatmanson yes great book

I feel the same!! I’ve done anything from gas station clerk, liquor store clerk, to plumbing, building tractors, in-home caretaker for elderly people, a cleaning job, building doors, mental health peer support… I’ve also sold some of my art and got my poetry published, I’m even working on a poetry book and plan to get into welding sculptures! I plan to join the Marines in about a year to be a combat photographer, plus I’m in college for fine art & writing now. A lot of people seem to frown on having lots of jobs or changing you career goals frequently, but I’ve found I get bored once I have something down plus I love learning new things. It’s helped me to figure out which environments I fit into or find intolerable. Having lots of jobs and finding what you do/don’t like is better than letting yourself be stuck at a job you hate if you ask me!

respect bro. Same here. I've worked every odd job from restaurant work to construction to a semi truck driver to cannabis industry...my best friend and my family always saw me as a flake because of it, just because i'm quick to move on if it's no longer benefiting me or i don't like doing it. It's all a part of finding what we truly enjoy doing (not necessarilly our dream or dream job) but something that we enjoy and makes us good money that's worth sticking with. I totally get you and the dude above me. Stay up boys and keep staying true to yourselves. I pity the person who's too afraid to quit a job because they're too comfortable or afraid of change. We embrace change and always look for something better. Bless

@@NaNa-re3wc That's so cool man, I was a photographer in my college years and wanted to be a combat photographer. See my other comment, i resonate with you and OP about being quick to move on and find something better vs just sticking with the same shitty job out of laziness or fear of change. You're doing the right thing brother and good luck out there with the combat photography. Respect

I'm a 58 year-old recovering addict female I have a similar resume except I became a carnie at 17 years old

Well idk if it's just me, but I see you as one of those superman kinda people who can do anything. That is valuable experience for someone with an entrepreneurial mindset, so there is that 😊

Don't get me wrong its an amazing conversation but only leaves me starving for more. And I think that is intended to bring in a greater audience and let others hook into discussion. I need to watch more and do some reading.

It really was a high quality conversation. I think the part about hearing the darkness in the most joyous classical music hit me hard in particular, because it's so, SO true to classical music in particular, to be expressing integrated emotions. That's really what I think defines classical output, in a way. It expresses deeply integrated experience, which is why the early works of composers tend to often be the trite "crowd pleasers," and the later works tend to be less accessible, but they grow on you as you keep hearing them, and the music starts to make more sense as you grow as a person. Beethoven's 9th symphony is one of those. Bach's unfinished fugue is one of the most powerful, moving pieces. For God's sake, I can't think of a piece that feels like I'm listening to the mind of God like that piece: This really was an absolutely fantastic conversation, and I think that Jordan Peterson and Robert Greene should do more than just podcast. They should collaborate, just as 50 cent and Robert Greene collaborated. He's SO, so right about the fact that we live in these silos.

This girl is so attractive to me. Just based on a thumbnail. But I also love both Robert and Jordan.

I am thinking 100% the same

@@DudeSoWin agree, I love JP, but it's obvious he knows little of Robert Greene, he needs to read a few of his books, then have him back on for a real deep discussion.

I was thinking the same...he did interrupt way too much

If you’re gonna go up against Jordan Peterson you gotta make him shut up. That’s why he’s such a formidable conversationalist. I like it even though I know everyone thinks he should just chill out and let people talk.

@@MichaelCBryan What is the point of having a podcast of you're not gonna let your guests talk?

@@ghosthusler Peterson is arrogant. He admits it. Why do you think he talks about malevolence so much? He’s not perfect. Sometimes he over talks. But at least he has something to say. And the other guy did get something to say as well. Nothing is ever black or white. It’s all gray.

@@MichaelCBryan He also talks about being a monster but then learning to control it. Maybe he should learn to control his talking, again, what's the point of having a podcast if you're not going to let your guest talk?

I thought I was the only one who was introduced to this book as an adolescent! 15/16 as well and I've revisited it throughout my adult life now 33. I've read all his books finishing up the Laws of Human Nature. You and I are fortunate to be introduced to these concepts so early in life 🙏🏾

Glad you got out. Most don't.

Same

Sorry about your experience. ❤️

I have tried to read the book as well, but could not finish it. I think it is important to confront the "dark side" of human nature, but sometimes my mind needs something uplifting- like this conversation!

@Sym Cardnel thank you! He tried to destroy my life for walking away but I am still standing and stronger for it. I wish I could help others but it’s such a silent struggle

For me it's vice versa 🫡

@@patmanpatmanson congrats

@@patmanpatmanson ditto

Yeeeesssss!!!!!

Exactly

You and me both! Lol This is gonna be good! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Same, my two favorite intellectuals finally unite. I've always wondered how JP viewed Robert's books and beliefs. Both men's wisdoms has helped me so much to learn and grow as a person.

Same!!!

This man jordan is lost! When you have a child you are suppose to relearn life! So yea everyone is an ignorant moronic human being! With being said…..

With that being said!

Wow - thanks for all the love everyone! Check us out on IG!

Don't forget Nietzsche. He had similar ideas long before Jung.

@@BBunnythaPhilosiopher can you elaborate?

Yep! I finish watching these lectures during my lunch, breaks and while going to sleep.

@@ladyusa6647 for me, while I do the washing. Nothing like psychology and philosophy in the sunshine to feel optimistic.

Literally one of 4 youtubers I watch, Bret Weinstein, Russell Brand, Joe rogan and Peterson himself

@@carolynbrightfield8911 heck yes

Yeah I agree if we aren’t aware of these tactics, we and others can easily fall into being a prey or a predator.

But I wonder why does he use language like choosing your victim/target? You can explain something without that kind of loaded language as if he expects the reader to engage in that behaviour. The Art of Seduction is also full of these kind of phrases too. Don't get me wrong i learned A LOT! But I'm not surprised it's got a bad rep for being manipulative since in some parts it literally does guide people to be manipulative and take advantage either for power or seduction.

Any opinions on it so far?

@@dibbi3237 The rules that I've heard so far are interesting. If you like history, you would enjoy all of the historical examples he gives for obeying each law and transgressing each law. It turned out to be a little too much history for me (math person here), and I keep falling asleep while listening, lol. That being said, I'm sure that keeping some of these in mind is going to be handy in the future. The book will not really teach a person to form loving, trusting relationships with peers; rather it's extremely pragmatic, which would seem to preserve the emotional distance between people. I would not use a lot of these rules on people I actually cared about.

@Alien at Large I feel the same way for the most part. Some laws felt too unfeeling for me to see any value in, apart from theoretical application. Thinking on it, though, I realized that these are incredibly important for those in situations less blessed than my own. After realizing this and thinking more about my less positive interactions I actually came to find I was utilizing some of the colder laws in more toxic relationships with people in my past. It's definitely a fascinating concept of a book, to say the least. Thanks for your response.

Thanks for posting this. I am like you but I love history and math bores me

I would advise you get it in a readable form! Audiobooks are great, but this is one of those which is more useful I believe in print form!!! Good luck and all the best ❤

I am glad we share the same emotion! People get excited for Marvel movies, but we exist too.

or people that like both like me😁

@@shivdeepsingharora9045 me too my heroes

Same here guys 😊😄

Agreed

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if peterson didn't cut him off every two minutes

Read it

Most people with temperance will exercise a soft spoken manner with Jordan. I don't neccessarily believe he is that soft spoken, he even alluded to that multiple times in this interview. I was too surprised by how assertive he was rather than aggressive.

That soft spoken man has a viciousness underneath that is so familiar. Hell if you read the book you know who I am.

@@segundojoel10 if you watch any interview of his you will see he is just as soft spoken talking to anyone.

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You don't look like a man to care about male virtuosity

@@kaledon6 so what? 🙄

@kaledon6 what a dumb comment. So grade school of you! What are you like 8 years old?

@@kaledon6 go watch feminist videos

I agree, I think that's one of his best quotes. "He who knows how to use a sword but keeps it sheathed will inherit the earth." That's the version I heard I heard it in one of his compilation videos

I felt the same way

Did it live up to your expectation? I felt like it was so much potential, but it ended up being a more water cooler conversation.

@@igbanam po of o

@@igbanam Same for me. I would love from Jordan to do more of a deep dive into Roberts books and work. Michaela allso did a pretty bad job in her own podcast about seduction with Robert - not reading the books, too bad - he is such a fascinating author and person. I do believe however this is just first of Jordans and Roberts conversations, so I hope for more.

Me too. And what a disappointment it was, right? Jordan made Robert look like an idiot. What a pity. What should've been a great collab turned into Jordan psycho analysing his guest and making him look like a fool

Maybe it's just me but seems in the last few interviews Jordan isn't letting the other person speak much. I was looking forward to this too but Greene can hardly get an word in edgewise. It's almost like Jordan is just using the guest as an audience. Don't get me wrong, I loved what Jordan was saying, but I wanted Greene to discuss his work too.

Absolutely disagree. It was irritating how often Jordan was interrupting Robert, Robert was unable to finish most of his thoughts and sentences.

Yeah that path. I'm def on it now. Starting to wonder at what point one loses the control, the perspective to stop at the last minute and decide to live. Feel like I get a little farther down it every day towards that place of no longer having perspective.

@@jonathanbecker8935 Yeah, I'm more or less there myself, and really the only thing you can do is think about how much your family will miss you. If someone made your mother cry, would you be pissed? Or if you have a kid, think about how much they unconditionally love you. I'm basically a homeless comic (day job but meh it sucks my soul) with a child, couch surfing. Had my ex basically leave me because God told her to, when she said earlier it wouldn't affect us, and thus we got engaged and had our kid (right at the beginning of the lockdown). Three months later, she took little pieces of the relationship away until there was nothing, and I had nowhere to live. I've been back and forth multiple times, and she won't even try or lift a finger to fix "us", but anytime she needs something (apartment, van, etc.), she wants to "work on it." DUDE. I had a house bought and paid for, and turned the loan down because she wanted to work on it. Look at the housing market now. My parents live 500 miles away, and I have no family here. It would be easier to end it, and goddamn I want to. But I can't leave my child here alone. If you don't have anything or anyone to stop you from feeling this way, and in turn, who you have makes you feel worse, find something to get out of your comfort zone and feel alive. I chose comedy, because you gotta laugh at this shit man, no one knows what they're doing or how they're doing it. They just do. Purpose. You can't change shit, but you can laugh at it all day. Hope this helps dude, Melvis

@@melvinburchett I understand what you're saying because my kids are the love anchors that keep me here , if not for them I'd have no desire or reason to stay on this bubble full of malfunctioning meat puppets! I've always been an outsider, a loner, was an only child then spent 12 years alone after I left the kids dad. I like being alone, then I met the man I've been with for the past 3 years, I wasnt looking and wasnt trying to team up with anyone, then when I met him, randomly in a parking lot, he was like the man of my dreams and vise versa he felt the same about me! So I have everything I could want, I'm not a high maintence or flashy person, but my suicidal nature wont leave! I can feel fine for weeks then as soon as I have a bad day its like I've been living in that bad day indefinitely.. and I would off myself in a minute if it werent for the kids, and cats and loved ones .. sometimes I even resent having these loved ones forcing me to stay, but I cant just abandon ship and leave my kids to the wolves! If everything is for a mysterious purpose, then there is some reason we persist

So good to read this and all the comments of people who read in their teens. I was mortified at Jordan’s piece on how he taught his son No and the struggle I’ve had with that with my boys as a single mum. I’m going to get my boys the 50th law, especially my eldest. We’ve had a tough life. My relationship with my boys are honest and close but they can struggle.

Jordan Peterson is smart and he's pretty captivating throughout the talk, but you can also sense that he's being a bit of a fool here.

Yes, part two please!!

Looking forward where we can hear more of Robert as well!! Robert was so gentle he left it until the last minute of the video to praise Dr. Peterson in expressing that he read Maps of Meaning, even though Dr. Peterson did not even read or know much of Robert Greene's books and writings!! Hope Dr. Peterson can let his guest speak more next time!

Yes, please! Part two - with Mr. Greene getting no less than 80%..no, well: %75 airtime. Do you read that, Herr @Jordan B Peterson? 😁😘 still - love yer work, very much.

@@Cagalhuni Yea, JP is use to being the expert in the situation and ALWAYS having the floor. It's kool when he's being interviewed but not when he's interviewing... it's a little irritating 🤏🏿

Ok I thought it was just me lol

100% agreed

agree

Agreed. I love JP, but he can talk over people that he is excited to speak with.

Extremely frustrating. I'm 40min in and he hasn't let Robert finish a single thought

@Shayan Wahedi True💯

Hey shayan love your work and I’m also wishing they’d be in your channel soon

@@bernardmatias2758 🙏🏽🔥

It'd be great if they will be being interviewed by you Shayan, love your videos!

Local police assaulting me un-waranted meanwhile rich people sit behind their keyboard.

JBP ftw

The end of your comment reminds me of that bill Hicks bit about marketing. "If there's anyone in marketing here tonight, KYS, no seriously do. There's no rationalization for what you do and you are Satan's little helpers."

Could you elaborate on your views on marketing please?

@@BPBrutalPenguin Would love to hear it to! There's alot to be said

Really? Do you believe it creates and perpetuates cognitive dissonance? I would love to hear even a basic exploration of that it sounds genuinely fascinating.

I also clam it's pretty good.

Yes. Extremely dangerous book. Extremely well researched and written. That’s what makes it dangerous. I got through 8 chapters and had to close it.

I survived the last 2 years because Jordan Taught me the history I was never taught to then be prepared and see it all coming. I owe this man my life!

@@kaivogel253 Your comment is either quite ambiguous, or grammatically misleading, maybe both. Could you please elaborate?

@@kaivogel253 are you Perfect? Perhaps don’t comment on my comment if you will hide it with your negativity. If he is not helpful to you, stop following him.

@@kaivogel253 Why are you here watching them ?

Yeah fuck all that shit, hit the gym, do a fuck load of push-ups, get full of T and earn a boat load of money 😎

She has issues. You are well created!

@@proudatheist2042 it was bad, she got let down greatly by her family. I don’t blame everything on parenting ... she tried her best and I know she cared but had bad guidance herself. Cycles y’know? Also I later got diagnosed as having aspergers and she kept trying to make me outgoing which was the opposite of what I needed. But hey that’s life right? Anyway she’s gone (last year) and I miss her everyday. But every so often I still get pangs of bitterness/anger call it what you will. Possibly part of the grieving process. But I’m really struggling to find strength atm. Thanks 4 asking btw. I hope life is treating you well.

@@zedrockiby thanks man. Hope life is treating you well.

@@criss5405 cheers cris.

Weird question: do u consider yourself lucky?

I also had a near-death experience with a bike crash. fell on my face (hitting the bike handlebar), next to a steep road, with a speed around 30 miles. but that was a very winning moment in my life, because it taught me to let go of vanity and lame stuff, and instead focus on my Mission. and it was like a green light that I'm destined for something, because if not, I would have been dead in that situation.

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LK?

Hope youre doing well now Dom, strength and power from AU ❤

@@kaivogel253 I peeped this big time with his interview. At moments I thought Jordan was actually trying to insult Green. It was quite cringe bc he insisted this man was bullied although Greene reiterated that it wasn’t the case.

It’s the first time I’ve ever wanted to hear more from the interviewee instead of JP lol! I didn’t know this guy before the interview, so I thank JP for the discovery.

@@carsonhunt4642 I wish Jordan would shut up for 5 minutes

@@mikeohernia5498 agreed. I love hearing Dr Peterson, but here he just shows he needs to improve his interviewing skills.

They need a round 2 interview, I'd like JP to go deeper into the views of Robert Greene, but for that he needs to probably read some of his books, especially the 48 laws of power, and the art of seduction.

disagree, there are a lot of better interviews out there, where there's less interruption

Passion not intimidation. 😆

Intimidate? 😂 this is not a competition

Robert’s facial expression kinda stagnates everytime jordan peterson cuts his stories

@@CryBaby2211 yes I saw this

@@CryBaby2211 He wasn't allowed to talk. Peterson probably felt threatened by Greene's worldview, but Greene handled it like a champ and got more exposure for his books. At the end of the day, that's what matters.

I am just watching this now, but if you want to see another good interview, watch The Fall doctor as Jordan, Peterson, interview.

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@@ivthecause for me it feels more like JP is such a big RG fan that just poors himself out. It's like he is trying to earn his validation.

Kindred spirits and Jordan couldn’t wait to chime in. I completely understand the urge though.

@@1911free he does this a lot with other people too though. I also watched a video after writing this where he actually says something like "people have criticized me in the past for cutting other people off, and it's because of my high extraversion that I do this." I think it was his daughter's interview with he and his wife where they talk about the big five results for the two of them and how it affects their relationship.

How old were you at that time? I intend to read it and discuss each law with my son, but I am not sure about the appropriate age for it.

@@franciscogerardohernandezr4788 I believe I was about 20y/o when I first read it. The reason why I can come back now and see it differently is because learned more about ego. Ego chases power and will use deceptive practices in order to obtain and protect it. Not everyone however operates from that area. It's good to read with someone and provide them with further understanding that not everyone in the world is like that but to be aware of it. That's my opinion with it

Yah i agree. I feel that you have to be in the right state of mind to dwelve into the book, knowing that it should probably not be used as a tool to manipulate, but rather as a shield, understanding how people in the world operate and being able to navigate those situations

@@joshuadasilva3995 Actually the argument of that book is based on Machiavelli's school of thought, which basically states that you should use whatever means necessary to gain power, as the one who does so has the RIGHT to do so. Its the same ethic that got Tupac killed at 25 years old. Careful, men.

@@joshuadasilva3995 100%. But if a person is overcome with a thirst for power along with a high ego then it instructs how to tactfully work with them. I've found two things that unfortunately can corrupt is $ and power.

Well, it’s no longer an interview. It’s rather a conversation. I guess JP knows too well about his topic so he didn’t bother to explore more about it. At least, they both learned something from each other.

Very annoying interview lol. Wouldn’t let Robert speak

I read Greene years ago and it really was an eye opening to see the world as it is, amazing seeing them together

@soapfanaddict bruh what?? u good ??

@soapfanaddict ok edgy 15 year old

@soapfanaddict you're funny man

Where can we Read about your discoveries?

@@fauciliedbeaglesdied6537 Great name my friend! As per your question links to your claims OP

😆 I think the "stones" OP is referring to aren't what you think. 😉 He's most likely talking about discovering his assertive masculinity.

@@leinaddnalkrik9009 Oh my. Right over my head. This is embarrassing. 😅

sound like you need a therapist.

I think the more time they would have talked together that differential would even out. Although Jordan did talk a lot, I do think Robert really wanted to listen to what he had to say. As if a negative outcome in the short-term but good in the long-term. I want to see more as well!

Great to see my two favourite authors here talking, but it felt like two people just waiting for their turn to talk. It felt aimless.

Definitelly, the interview shows how Robert is better listener than Jordan. I really wanted to stop jordan some times.

who cares ... let the man have his conversation

AHAHAHAHAHAH u r sick!

As a high IQ individual who dropped out of school at 15, i feel the same If you shine too strongly, everybody around will try and dim your brightness

But if you have a burning lamp, do you hide it away beneath the table? Rather you should hold it up for people to use the light to see clearly. Otherwise it's instrumental machiavellianism

But if you have a burning lamp, do you hide it away beneath the table? Rather you should hold it up for people to use the light to see clearly. Otherwise it's instrumental machiavellianism

Agreed. As the Japanese proverb says it: "The nail that sticks out gets hammered back into place".

Thank you man, that was quite interesting! Right now in this exact position.

@@patmanpatmanson My advice to you, is to speak the truth in your defense as clearly and articulately as possible, especially if it will rock the boat. Document and record information of your work as carefully and in as much detail as possible to back up this truthful, conscientious mode of speech. This is a tactic Dr. Peterson advises for situations like these, where people are detracting from their environment and trying to undermine you maliciously, intentionally or not.. He has talked about speaking extremely truthfully of your thoughts and observations even if it will cause upheaval, because that upheaval is always better than the outcome of allowing truth to go unspoken or unrecognized. Have exit-strategies lined up in advance, in the way of an updated resume and new interviews ready if necessary - an important key factor if people who should listen to that truth choose not to or are apart of the problem in the first place. Best of luck.

Residual trauma 😆 it was more than that, man! Remember Jordan's talk when he spoke about how when we're at a shitty job or toxic work environment. We hatch a brilliant plan in our heads to get out in 5 years type thing. He then reminds that we may stay on at the company for those five years, but it may take 20 yrs just to restore the bits of our wrecked freaking soul that has been stolen in the process! I worked there too, friend. I was there. I worked in a government position that was corporate psychopathology at its best. There are devils! Even if I didn't believe in them before I did by the end. I wanted to write about the experience but was too drained and infuriated to even function by the end of it. I did come to realise that there seems to be a virus or disease of sorts that occurs. Sadly, even if a perfectly emotionally, mentally, or spiritually healthy person joins that environment, they will become infected in time. If they're smart, they'll get out quickly before it robs their soul!

@Patman Patmanson prayers. I will honestly spend energy and time meditating and seeing goodness and success for you, and covering from conflict and torment in your environment. I've been out of mine over a year now but I'd have given anything for someone to relate or be able to truly understand what I was going through. People don't want to hear that sht. I hear you. The only solace I had was that I finally chose to invest just as much time visualizing, planning, and putting into place the pieces to make my future bigger than my present as the time I spent dealing with the burn out, trauma, and daily 'beatings' i was recieving. I now work for myself. I am completely changed by the experience but I went back to school and finished a masters. Bnb

@@BeautynBrains75 "but it may take 20 yrs just to restore the bits of our wrecked freaking soul that has been stolen in the process!" So damn true. That stress and malice literally changes DNA. I don't recall encountering JP talking about this specifically but I've watched enough of him to have gotten that gist, and certainly had the anecdotal experience of it myself. When you're in those situations, in the meat-grinder of the slog - fight or flight inducing weight that is it's routine, it's all too difficult to see a way out but there are always such small steps, actions, and beliefs that can be shifted towards improvement at the most immediate and simple level before having to worry about the whole 'dragon.' Learning about personality types through JP, among the big five, and how certain types of people will essentially 'funnel' through 'valleys' to certain fields of work or end up trapped in them was revelatory - because I think what can happen, like you say, good people can end up among bad - and those types can change others around them - embitter - if they're stuck with each other - not to say clashing personality types are inherently 'bad' but you certainly need to know what yours are so you are at least in the right field, first off. Because then you will be emboldened as a competent force among your peers to hold them up to high standards, and to speak out with purpose when others try to detract from your environment. The faster and more proactively you 'care for yourself like another person you love' and realign your life - accepting your own faults or mistakes, and taking responsibility for your position in your life and trying to change it, the better - especially in comparison to the outcome of NOT doing so - being stuck in a toxic environment, not making the most of your own potential, being pulled down by others for their own abandon or whim. Scary, really, how easy it is to end up feeling stuck like that. My prayers go out to Pat too, and anyone else in a similar situation.

lol yes, I think Jordon met his male soulmate and got way too excited, he's almost confessing to Robert. They are two of my favorite intellectuals.

@@bunnylopez1808 I think you're right!

ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴇɴᴛ, ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴀ ɴᴏᴛᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴋᴀᴛʜʀʏɴ ʟɪɴᴄᴋ ʀᴇɢᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ ʙᴛᴄ/ ᴇᴛʜ ɪɴᴠᴇsᴛᴍᴇɴᴛ ɪᴅᴇᴀs 𝚃ᵉ𝚇ţ𝄍𝑾𝒉𝔮τ𝑠𝑨𝑝𝑝 ±𝟏𝟐𝟑𝟒𝟐𝟎𝟑𝟐𝟑𝟔𝟕 ʟᴇᴛ ʜᴇʀ ᴋɴᴏᴡ ɪ ʀᴇғᴇʀʀᴇᴅ ʏᴏᴜ;,..,.,.

Explains my life and the narcissistic effects of my brother and my mother teaming up together totally against me for most of my life.

The guy wrote like two best-sellers, that's hardly underrated.

Robert Greene was EXTREMELY famous when he wrote the 48 laws of power. Not underrated at all

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Sorry, Robert, another time :/

Jordan is smart and curious. But he's also extraverted, and I think he is more interested in sharing his reaction to his guests' ideas (and, maybe at developing his guests ideas further) than in sharing their ideas as they already exist, without challenge or interpretation. I don't think I could do any better than Jordan, but I think Russell Brand might be better at allowing a guest to speak freely about what they already think, vs challenging and expanding their ideas. At least, that's what I saw when RB interviewed Ben Shapiro. Sometimes, I agree with Jordan's approach, and sometimes I wish he'd allow me to engage with his guests' ideas without pre-chewing them too much.

I liked the part where he gave off three examples in a row that I just yesterday read on his book

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Interesting...which book?

@@JohnDoe-iu5xi thanks for the recommendation

@@SI-rv9te Absolutely read the 48 Laws of Power, it’s just brilliant

I’ve heard Peterson talk about people who get punished for being virtuous, but that’s about as far as he goes. Where as this new guy he is talking to resonates with me deeper than I ever thought anyone would. It bothers me beyond belief how we were lied to about working hard (results) and they’d get you anywhere etc. when in reality you are more likely to be punished for such behaviors. If you show up to work with a smile, they’ll be more likely to try and put you down behind your back. Because why can he be happy when you’re not? I never liked to play the game of politics, yet without it you can’t get anywhere…. Anyways rambling aside, he’s one of the first I’ve seen acknowledging this oddity that most won’t admit exists. Would love to learn more and hopefully put it to use in my work life. Thanks for the recommendation👍

@@JohnDoe-iu5xi What have I done to you?