LOL That was mostly Josh. 😭 The interviewer had him in his feelings and he had to prove a point. ;) lol Btw.... Josh's sly grin & biting of the upper lip when Zendaya says "Then we SEE each other again... and it's MAGIC!!" while referring to his character. 😩😂 Oh. MYyyyyYyyyy.Y... lol He REALLY liked that. 💥😎

@@robinvolpi don't be weird

@@Linsey009 Your obsession with my factual observations is a bit disturbing. You okay, Saffronia?? ;)

@@robinvolpi "factual observations" you're a weirdo, hope this helps!

@@Linsey009 "Weirdo"... coming from the deluded cyber stalker. ;) lol Self-awareness mustn't be your strong suit. Lol Weird... for my pointing put that Josh spoiled points of the movie and seemed to enjoy Zendaya's jokes regarding their characters?? LMMFAO Do you have FUN or FACTS in your life Almighty Oracle and Purveyor of Hard Truths?? Whoa.

lmaooo he was spilling like it was his real experience😭

Josh is adorable

SAME

Sameee, they out here trying to defend the cheaters haha

Art was HORRIBLE

@@isctaylor109 you gon have to show me when 😂

@@hamdialihassan1048 plotting on Tashi when she was with Patrick. He planted seeds in college, and he took his shot as soon as they had an argument

Yeah, he was definitely a snake, but he was a teenage boy. You don't get married to someone, have a kid, and then cheat with his friend.

That’s what i’m saying! Like Tashi and Patrick were the worst throughout the whole movie, at least Art became a mature adult.

the cheating later on in the movie happened cause of what art did in college aka separate patrick and tashi and he was not a teenage boy when he plotted that lol. but i do agree that patrick and tashi’s relationship was doomed to end anyway cause both of them were also in love with art and felt like he was missing. i think if compulsory monogamy wasn’t a thing they would have happily chosen to be in a poly relationship from the first time they met but hey society am i right

You have to watch it another time. Hahahah

Yess agree, Art stirred the pot but their break up argument wasn’t even about who’s in love with who, it was born their egos and wanting to dominate each other. They were gonna breaks up anyway

I love how PROUD Patrick is of Art when he figures it out though 😂

Agreed.

@@sparkygirl266Just thought about it and just look at this Art says: he’s not in love with you Tasha says to Pat: you ain’t apart of my fan club Art says to pat: she isn’t thinking of it as a serious relationship Pat to Tashi: I’m your peer not your groupe Edit- which could of led to Pat sayin “ love was never what I was for” as a defence mechanism lie he told himself over the years after losing he’s girl and best mate (so many layers)

Art was the one that chased after Tashi after her injury, and even before when he was instigating a Tashi and Patrick breakup. Then he asked her to become his coach and then asking her to marry him, convincing her by promising to let her shape him. He knew he didn't satisfy her sexually, but instead of addressing those issues with a sex therapist, he expected Tashi to just continue living a sexually unfulfilled life because he brought money and wealth. Anyway, a solution that was not presented is Tashi divorcing Art and becoming a coach of another hungry prospect. She showed that she could turn an average player into a champion. And if she divorces she can fuck anyone she wants without the guilt of cheating on a spouse that doesn't satisfy her. But I agree with you that Patrick was just an undisciplined mess when he was dating Tashi and Tashi was attracted to him because she needed someone that would not roll over and could challenge her. He also was not very considerate of Tashi and definitely their fight and his absence at the game sent her to a space that made the injury more likely

Spoilers I'm glad you saw it similarly, I don't think the rest of the movie and what we learn about their characters gives us any reason to think that Art somehow broke them up, their break up was inevitable. Some might argue she was just saying things defensively and didn't mean it, but I think there's some truth that Tashi says in that moment in the cafeteria--that to her Patrick was basically a casual thing, and Patrick would have eventually learned that anyways. They were young and in college, it's very likely the same events would have happened later on and she still would have been injured even if Art just let it come up naturally. The problem was Art was insecure and chasing after both of them, so he did a bad thing because he wanted the qualities he saw in her to be his. Tashi doesn't seem to love people in the same way that she loves tennis and throughout the movie we see her grief over the loss of her greatest passion. She lives through both of the boys with her passion for tennis, almost like she's looking for a life raft to cling to. As soon as she no longer begins to see Art as a potential winner, what does she do? She suddenly is more open to Patrick again despite the disdain she holds for him. Which in some ways ways isn't warranted, he was right in their argument in my opinion that she doesn't see him on her level, but I think she has a strong personality and ego and she was hurt, so she holds it against him and blames him for her injury. She doesn't want to cheat, she also doesn't want to lose Art, but her feelings towards Patrick are complicated and she will do anything to keep her dream alive. There's some affection there, but the reality is that she doesn't want to lose Art like a derby gambler doesn't want to lose their fastest racing horse. I agree with you that she also likes the security she feels from Art, not him as a person, but I don't know if I would go as far as to say Art truly loves her either. In the end when Art learns that she cheated on him he's pissed and begins to lose it. I don't think that Art ever had real love for Tashi, I think it was an infatuation with her representing everything that he wants that was suddenly shattered in that moment of betrayal. He was in love with the idea of her being this gorgeous talent who was interested in him just as much as she was in love with the idea of him finding the glory that she felt she was cheated from. My understanding was that he enjoyed tennis when he was younger but no longer enjoyed it when he got older, specifically once he was with Tashi. I think a large part of that had to do with the codependency and the pressure that was put on him to perform. Tennis was no longer just a game, and he felt the weight of needing to carry Tashi's dreams when she was far more invested into it than he was. It affected his self worth pretty deeply every time he lost, and made him even want to retire early. From my perspective, that last scene we see is him breaking down the hold she has over him. He's finally just playing for him again, just playing a game of tennis like he was back when he was younger. He regained some form of confidence and control, which was what he needed to actually win. Ironically, Patrick was likely trying to rile him up through the hand symbol so that he could win (he decided not to throw for Tashi), but he unknowingly caused his own loss. The truth was that Art had become better than Patrick in all those years playing against better players, he just was mentally unable to perform because he was feeling suffocated by the woman he was infatuated with. Then the roles were suddenly reversed, because now Tashi had become his fan once she saw him regain his ability to perform. To her, that was her dream of glory coming alive again, there's even the parallel of her overcoming her injury through him overcoming the person who she blames her injury on. But the irony is that by that point it's questionable in what form their relationship would continue. The ending also leaves much of this up for interpretation, that's just how I see it.

We all know its not his fault.. Z just trying to attack him with his character 😅😅 joking

Yess, z ans josh and delulu here lmao they are all snakes, and if anyone is the worst it's tashi because she is the instigator, she saw their weird tension and used it to manipulate them, and then they all, played this toxic game together. It's just that patrick and tashi are more overtly snakey, and art's scheming is covert, from backstage hahaha

@@mossicely I actually read Patrick's riling Art up completely differently. He told Tashi it was unforgivable that she'd want Art to "win" a match that he didn't actually earn. I think he gave Art the signal knowing it would be the only thing that could rile him enough to really PLAY and earn it, win or lose. Hence the last moments of their game where they are both completely in it.

Banana peel! 😂😂😂 Totally agree!

again, stop being a weirdo

@@Linsey009 Define "weirdo" Anonymous Tool. ;)

Thanks for the interesting perspective. :) My ticket is for Saturday and I am eagerly anticipating the watch. Lol I don't usually ask questions pertaining films that I plan on watching but I would like to know, since it was mentioned in this video, do you agree w/Art & the interviewer that Patrick wasn't actually 'in love' with Tashi? I also saw this take from one reviewer who actually went further by declaring that the boys weren't actually in love with Tashi but one another, but they all just used one another. 😬 I'd like to know your take on this, of you don't mind. :)

@@robinvolpi of course I don't mind, I love talking lol!! I think they both are in love with Tashi (in different ways tho... and thats why some might argue that one does love her but the other doesn't.. people can love the same person in different ways guys cause they're both different people lol) but also have unresolved history with each other (bicurious and romantic feelings for one another) and kept trying to make the other jealous (the cherros scene shows that and also the sauna scene).. in Art and Tashi's marriage, their bedroom scenes always felt like it was missing something (or someone) and felt incomplete but otherwise their marriage was perfect imo. I think all three of the characters had similar dynamics sexually to the character in the movie "Angel Sex", give it a watch and hope that helps!

@@robinvolpi I know you're not asking me lol, but I saw the movie yesterday and I would say that without spoiling, Patrick is an asshole and he makes it known that he's hyperaware of it. I don't really think he was in love with her in my opinion and I think he just loved how talented she was. I do think Art was in love with her though and that's why he probably didn't feel bad about how things played out. Also in terms of how the movie unfolded **SPOILERS AHEAD** It was clear from the first time Tashi met the boys that she was more into Art. She would always make eye contact with him first when the two boys were standing next to each other. Whether it was at the party, the hotel room floor, or the bed, she was always looking at him first. She made it clear that she liked that he was focusing on an education as well as a career instead of aiming to go pro and putting school past him. At the beginning of the movie, she said she wanted to watch some good tennis and that's what happened at the end of the movie, hence why she screamed. At the end of the day though, I think Tashi loved tennis more than she could ever love a man.

@@annalisamistretta5280 I definitely think Pat and Tashi love Art more than one another but also have this opposite attraction/lust/ambition (which are all still strong feelings) for one another. Art 100% loves Tashi but felt like their marriage was incomplete as Pat wasn't in it (and so did Tashi cause you know what she ended up doing) and you could tell he still wanted Pat but was in denial about his feelings and cruel to him in the sauna scene and likewise Pat wanted to make him jealous and get a rise out of him (hence the tennis match)... also if it was all just to watch good tennis for Tashi then [*more spoilers lol*] she wouldn't have had sex with Pat and somewhat implied with her argument with Art that if he lost the game he would lose her (implying that she would coach pat instead), you know? it would've just been business and no pleasure for her decision to coach Pat but it wasn't :)

@@annalisamistretta5280 That's an incredible and much appreciated breakdown - Thank you for engaging!! 😎 One more question, if I may.... Did it appear that Art was more in love with Patrick than Tashi or are some, in your opinion, hyping up the alleged sexual tension between those two? ;) And Thanks again! Very insightful. 🌺

?! Are you stvpid?!?! They had to bond and basically all share scenes. Whereas w dune they didnt need to and all her scenes are w timothee. She didn’t spend more then 3 days on set w people like florence or Austin. She barely fkn knew them until press tour. She didnt know timothee until the dune 1 press tour

For real

Timothee and Zendaya are best friends so that probably played a part in why their chemistry wasn’t the best. For challengers, she said she had intimacy coaches with these two, so that probably adds to the chemistry.

In one of their interviews, Mike said that he and Z had time together in a hotel room, just the two of them, to build up their chemistry. At first, Mike didn't feel like he couldn't make it, but Luca kept motivating him that he was his first choice for the role and he must not be giving up

What about it made u mad? I’m curious

but it was a happy ending?

@@Arualx ehh define happy lol

​@@Arualx how was it a happy ending

omg literellyyyyyy i’ve never been more proud of a canadian interviewer

Yeah, although I didn’t like Art as a person, he didn’t deserve to be cheated on. And their daughter definitely didn’t deserve for her mom to do that.

I think the thing that really made me turn against Art was when the injury happened and Patrick tried to come into the treatment room to comfort her and he told Patrick to go away (and then presumably never spoke to him ever again after that). Like he saw an opportunity to break them up once and for all and went for it, slimy move imo

@@margaritakmpbut Tashi was also asking Pat to leave the room…so I felt like Art asking Pat to leave was his way of backing her up and respecting her because Pat certainly wasn’t respecting her in that moment.

Oh please, Art threw away 12 years of friendship like it was nothing, like it meant nothing, for what? A change to have Tashi for himself? After that, Patrick didn't own him anything

They were also getting really into kissing each other ngl...

It wasn't Patrick that threw away 12 years of friendship like it was nothing, like it meant nothing, that was Art.

wdym 😭 art is hot as hell

have you seen who she's dating?

@@freja201 LMAOOOOO 😭😭😭😭😭😭

no, art got into tashi while watching her play lol, nothing to do with patrick

That’s why you don’t marry your best friends ex girlfriend. Karma. He was the backup and got the marriage he deserved from an equally terrible person.