Zenith Tube Radio and the Story BEHIND Civil Defense Radio Markings - 1961 XD50G Restoration [4K]

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Practically Fixed

Practically Fixed

15 днів тому

1961 Zenith Consoltone Tube Radio in for inspection and restoration/updating. We also discuss the Civil Defense CD markings on the radio dial. This will explore the story Behind those markings, and answer some of those questions you may have had.
Note: This CONELRAD system was at least partially put into action a few times, due to some isolated false alarm cases. In some cases, the results were rather comical, 60+ years later that is... But the fact the system on paper looked so effective - perhaps it served a deterrent purpose after all, we may never know.
See the checklist which appears when status changes, for tracking what is discovered that needs addressing in Red, followed by Green when resolved.
NOTE: This is not instruction, it is for entertainment for people like me who enjoy watching projects and the experiences gained. If you attempt to do any of the things in this video you are at your own risk. I am using special tech-bench safety equipment not detailed here so don't take for granted you can just plug these old items in safely without them being checked and repaired correctly. Check out the link below to Mr Carlson's Lab video below.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS AND REFERENCES:
[note: am in no way representing how these folks have shown doing these things - I don't even think they would approve.]
Schematics: NostalgiaAir.com
Thanks to shango066 for championing the approach of "fix it first", before mass re-capping. See shango066 for many examples of that approach.
@shango066
Awesome discussion of bench safety including variacs and isolation transformers by Mr Carlson's Lab (highly recommended):
• Tech Tips Tuesday, Iso...
@MrCarlsonsLab
Modification method for a commercial Tripp Lite isolation transformer for tech-bench use by Todd Harrison, his channel is called ToddFun:
• ToddFun.com: Isolation...
@ToddFun
Camera: Canon G7X Mark III
Mic: Rode Micro
Video Editing Software: Power Director
Video Editor: just me
People interested in the following topics may be interested in the subject matter of this video: 1960s radios, tube radio repair, tube radio restoration, vacuum tube radio recapping, Zenith Radio, Zenith tube radio, Consoltone, radio recapping, valve radio, Vintage Radio, antique radio, old radio repair, vintage radio, rf coil repair, shango066, mr carlson, radio repair and restoration, 1950s radio restoration, Zenith radio restoration, radio restoration videos, Conelrad, Civil Defense, CD markings

КОМЕНТАРІ: 40
@lespowell4905
@lespowell4905 13 днів тому
Great history lesson! I look forward to all your videos. Your efforts and great video detail are greatly appreciated. Thanks.
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 13 днів тому
Thanks! So glad you like them.
@knifeswitch5973
@knifeswitch5973 13 днів тому
Love the bonus history lessons! Almost all my herd has the marks. Never seen that model before. Reminds me somewhat of the Zenith Caroline’s. Great video as always. Never thought to bring my radios to the park. Might have to do that some evening for some AM DX. That’s all I get up here stations.
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 12 днів тому
Thanks! Yes getting away from power supplies, routers, lighting, motion detectors, etc really helps let the radio show what it can do. Let me know how the DXing goes.
@timothystockman7533
@timothystockman7533 11 днів тому
Although I'm not old enough to have worked in the broadcast industry during conelrad, I saw the remnants of it. There was a switch at the transmitter which would engage several relays in the transmitter and at the antenna tower to retune to the conelrad frequency. The transmitter was switched on and off in sequence with other stations on the frequency by a signal from a telegraph circuit from a central control point.
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 11 днів тому
Thank you for contributing that! You saw that much of the actual gear in situ still remaining when you got into the industry, and I can imagine some of the "old timers" told you all about how it was to work. They would have known when it was installed, who provided it, training and whether it was to be under wraps or not. I think the concept was inspired and the design, ingenious. Thanks again.
@fretlessfender
@fretlessfender 13 днів тому
Loved it! Love your narration, nice and softly spoken, very clear! Good Job! Subscribed!
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 12 днів тому
Thanks very much! Welcome aboard.
@Boozion
@Boozion 10 днів тому
I remember duck and cover when I was a child in the 60's. My dad had a transistor radio in his work truck with the CD triangles on the dial. His work truck did not have a am radio in the dash. I miss what am radio used to be with music all over the band scan. Great info on conelrad. Thanks for sharing. 😂
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 10 днів тому
Yes, it is too bad about the music, really missing in my area. Glad you enjoyed it!
@jimburns348
@jimburns348 13 днів тому
Great stories and work on that Zenith 👍
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 13 днів тому
Thank you kindly sir!
@crosleyfiver8686
@crosleyfiver8686 12 днів тому
Howdy From ELP..... recently picked up Houston AM 740 DX'n a couple night s ago.
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 12 днів тому
Howdy! That's some good DX'n there. KTRH used to be a 50kW channel but not anymore, so that is a great pick! In HOU we like to point out to visitors that ELP is almost exactly halfway to L.A. "The sun has ris', an' tha sun has set, and here we is, in Texas yet"
@Ramblin_DMC
@Ramblin_DMC 11 днів тому
I've been collecting radios for years and I never knew the details on Conelrad
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 11 днів тому
Thanks for watching and hope you found that detail interesting. Some things in plain sight that we see all the time and take for granted sometimes have some interesting backstories - such as town names on water towers.
@jimlocke9320
@jimlocke9320 13 днів тому
I do recall a time when the civil defense system was tested. All the "normal" radio station transmissions went off the air and the CD radio transmissions came on. My research indicates that selected normal broadcast stations were equipped to broadcast on the 640 and 1240 frequencies. Radio dials in that era were not very accurate, so listeners would typically find the CD stations near the markings on the dial, but not exactly on. The triangle marking was probably more common than the letters CD. Zenith used and promoted their "hand crafted" assembly for many years after competitors had switched to printed circuit boards. We see that this chassis used point to point wiring. GE introduced its "mechanized chassis" in the early 1950s. Most of the component leads went into solder wells. Leads did not need to be fed through holes and looped around terminals. Probably the "mechanized chassis" was less error prone as well. Zenith did adopt the "mechanized chassis" later before introducing circuit boards sometime after that. You mention replacing the cord with one that has a polarized plug and moving the switch connection to the hot lead. Max Robinson makes the same suggestion on his funwithtubes dot net site. Placing the switch in the neutral lead was fairly standard practice. Very early "all american five" radios used tubes where the filament voltages did not add up to the line voltage and the extra resistance to build it out was provided in the line cord. So, the line cord had three wires, a hot low resistance lead, neutral low resistance lead and the build out resistor lead. The manufacturers would have had to use a two pole power switch or put the single pole in series with the neutral lead. They chose the less expensive single pole. I think that set a precedence and they continued that arrangement after a set of tubes building out the filament string to line voltage was developed. Early "all american five" radios had the metal chassis connected to circuit ground. The screws through the bottom of the cabinet posed a shock hazard, since they could be electrically hot. If a knob were missing, an electrically hot shaft could be exposed. Even if the knob were in place, it was possible to make electrical contact with the set screw with wet hands. Some people set up radios near the bathtub. We were taught not to do that because of the risk of electrical shock. Radios were common in kitchens and created the same hazard. Later designs isolated the chassis with a capacitor, as this Zenith does here. Later, plastic shafts were used for the knobs. The tuning capacitor was still electrically hot and could often be reached by fingers poked through ventilation holes in the back. Zenith tucked the tuning capacitor under the chassis in this model. I haven't found any data on how many people were electrocuted by these radios. Modern electronics is much safer and people aren't used to being extremely careful. I would suggest going further and replacing the polarized cord with a ground fault protector cord scavenged from a hair dryer. These cords are typically thicker than the original radio's cord and the cord's hole in the back of the chassis will probably need to be drilled out to accommodate a larger grommet and the cord.
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 12 днів тому
Hello Jim and thank you for these interesting comments; very interesting that you recall an actual test of CONELRAD. I do not recall witnessing a test of that system, although as I mentioned we had the siren test every Friday at noon. Of course my Dad had explained it to me. Regarding the 'hot chassis' aspect of this, yes, I run into this on virtually all of my repairs and like to use polarized plugs going to the switch, if not a fuse, first as well as safety capacitors. You may have also noticed the screw receptacles in this chassis were nylon inserts as they were on the Star-Lite AM/FM repair I did some time ago. On that design, the mounting of the volume control was on an isolated floating plate and they also deep-set the controls if the knobs were pulled off. Of course, designers also used wooden or plastic cabinets and knobs - with notable exception as the EICO amp I fixed and those steel case Hallicrafters radios. Certainly agree about the relative safety of household items these days and perhaps a certain lack of respect for the danger in some of these older items. I did assist my Dad from a very early age on pulling tubes from the back of the TVs for the trip to the drug store tube tester, and learned all about draining the caps and especially the CRT capacitance - "entertains the kids" - right? I am sure you remember well before polarized plugs and wall outlets and getting a buzz off the screws on the bottom of many appliances, including radios. My Dad used to tell me to "just flip over the plug", as if, "everyone know that!" - in his generation of course, most guys did.
@jimlocke9320
@jimlocke9320 12 днів тому
@@PracticallyFixed Thanks for the reply! I don't recall too much of the CONELRAD test, except that it was in the daytime and the radio dial went dead except for 640 and 1240. During the test, I vaguely recall that they talked about the system. I don't know if the test was national or just regional. It does seem that they would need to run regular tests to make sure that the CONELRAD system was in good working order. Many of the broadcast stations shut down at least one night a week. That would be a good time to test the system. Thanks for pointing out the nylon inserts. For proper operation, the chassis had to be grounded, at least through a capacitor. The capacitor could fail in a short circuit mode, creating a shock hazard. The shafts for the knobs appear to be metal. I assume that they were insulated from the chassis. The tuning capacitor is a special case. I never saw it electrically insulated from the AC line. My best friend's mother had a metal case AA5 radio in her kitchen. The dial cord had broken years ago. They changed the station by moving the plates of the tuning capacitor with pencils. Then his father bought her a new radio and this one got handed down to my friend. We took it apart and dumped out pencils and bread crumbs. We replaced the dial cord. When we had the radio serviced, his mother felt sorry that we hadn't done that years ago! We lived in the GE town of Schenectady, NY, and GE products were everywhere, many purchased by GE employees in the company store. My Dad bought a top of the line GE console in late 1954. It had a lot of duplicate tubes, and my Dad diagnosed tube problems by swapping tubes whenever there was a duplicate. Later, he bought a complete set of duplicate tubes and we swapped in new tubes to locate bad tubes. I watched him and helped him. By the time I was ready to leave for college, when the TV broke down, my Dad would ask me when I was going to repair the TV. With the switch in the neutral, the line connected chassis would switch from hot to cold or vice versa with a flip of the on/off switch. There was no safe way to insert the plug. I don't think anyone took a count of how many people got electrocuted by having a radio near the bath tub and making an electrical connection to bath tub ground by trying to change the station or adjust the volume control. On top of that, there probably were many more who got a shock but survived. Now we have battery powered radios that we can safely take into the shower.
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 12 днів тому
The story on that metal cased radio your friend's family had is great, thinking of the pencils in there is really funny. Swapping tubes was a great way to go! In 1980 my wife and I bought a used RCA TV from a garage sale that didn't work. My Dad took me to a shop and bought be my first Sams Photofact for that set and we got it going - I wish I could remember how we fixed it. Although that set is long gone, I still have that Photofact folder, a great memory. Thanks for taking the time to watch the video and for commenting.
@jimlocke9320
@jimlocke9320 11 днів тому
@@PracticallyFixed Regarding my comment on the switch being in series with the neutral lead instead of the hot, I do recall that Max Robinson thought it was done that way to eliminate one soldered connection in a highly cost reduced design. I got my first personal TV set in the early 1960s, a 17" Montgomery Ward portable with series string filaments. The owners bought it brand new but it broke down frequently. While under warranty, Montgomery Ward's had replaced all the tubes (except the CRT), but that didn't fix the problem. When I got the set, one tube had an open filament and locating and replacing that tube got the set working again. I didn't have to make a lot of repairs to the set, but there were a few. I do recall that my Dad and I took the set to a TV repairman and he found a broken connection in a tuner tube socket. The part that contacts a pin on a tube was broken off from the terminal. He didn't want to attempt a repair. I was able to pull out the little piece of metal, insert a piece scavenged from another tube socket and solder this terminal to the existing terminal. Another repair was needed when the vertical hold control would not stop the picture from rolling. I replaced a bad capacitor. The CRT eventually got very weak and my Dad and I replaced it. I think most of the hours on it were from the original owners. In those days, children's radios were not that common and having a TV set in your bedroom was really a luxury. I took the set to college and had it in my dorm room. The Batman program was extremely popular when it came out. The dorm lounges with TV sets were packed. I had a room full of students. However, the program lost popularity fairly quickly. With my best friend's mom's kitchen radio, she listened to one station pretty consistently, so it wasn't too often that pencils were used to change the station. I am surprised that family members didn't bend the plates in the tuning capacitor! It must have been hard to tune the station accurately.
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 11 днів тому
Jim, thanks by the way for the steer to Max Robinson page; he has some interesting content and an entertaining writer to boot. I saw his comment on that solder lug and scratched my head a bit on that, until I recalled my biggest difficulty in moving the Hot lead to the on/off switch: all the commons tied to the switch terminal after the switch contacts. I usually have to add a terminal strip to move all those commons off the switch and give them a new hitching post. Perhaps that is related to his point. We definitely watched Batman, I mean Julie Newmar. I loved how the villain's hideouts were filmed at an angle to appear slanted, but no one ever commented on it. Cool show.
@tubeDude48
@tubeDude48 13 днів тому
Sure is clean for it's age. Those bottom mounts for the I.F.'s are unusual.
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 12 днів тому
The IF mounts did look different to me as well. Amazing condition really. Found it at a church thrift store. Must have been kept in the top of someone's closet. No bugs either!
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 11 днів тому
Watch what you let touch hot tubes. It looks like the new power cord was draped around the 35W4 rectifier, which gets pretty hot.
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 11 днів тому
Thanks for the suggestion - I went back to the video to take a look. If you mean the new black power cord, it is located far from the rectifier socket. The lead from the switch that now goes to the rectifier is blue and is a solid wire and is bent away from the socket but all that is hard to see on the video due to 2D perspective - things may look closer than they are. Then I reopened the back to check that the speaker wires were not near any of the tubes and they are all clear. I am pretty sure I check those things, but a degree of complacency does cause mistakes. Thanks again for the comment for me to check it.
@jimf4492
@jimf4492 13 днів тому
Thanks for the history lessons. Dad explained the CONELRAD system to me when I was a kid. When we got a new car in '67, it didn't have the symbols on the radio, and I was really concerned about what we would do if there was a war. Dad assured me we would be OK (I was 8). Nice job on the radio - and go Rangers!
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 12 днів тому
Thanks! We liked playing in Mexico City - wonder if we can play more games there! Go 'Stros - only 6 games back now! We both gained a game on Seattle.
@jimf4492
@jimf4492 12 днів тому
@@PracticallyFixed Hey, there's a lot of baseball left, and the 'Stros could make it up! BTW, I lived in Houston in 1964-'65, and attended the first game played in the Astrodome. It was an exhibition game against the Yankees. Mickey Mantle hit the first homer, but the Astros won.
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 12 днів тому
@@jimf4492 That's cool. My parents were there in the Skyboxes for that game as well. One of the Astros announcers was a close family friend and we knew him and his family well and we went to a lot of games at both Colt .45 stadium as well as the Dome. I even went to bullfights there and saw Evel Knieval jump a bunch of cars there, Oilers games too etc. The dome has a lot of great memories for me. Even saw Pink Floyd there.
@jimf4492
@jimf4492 12 днів тому
@@PracticallyFixed Well, we were in the cheap seats! I saw one other Astros game, and my granddad took us to watch the Oilers a couple of times. You have a neat connection with the place. I wish they would do something with it. I think it's too historic a place to tear down - or just sit unused.
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 12 днів тому
Yes, I agree. In 2009 authorities changed the fire code so that the Dome no longer met code and so they stopped holding events there, even though it sheltered thousands of people during the Katrina evacuation a few years earlier. To my knowledge it hasn't been used since. It was a strong source of Houston pride for so long, I hope they can find a solution to keep it and use it.
@ward5821
@ward5821 12 днів тому
Currently, I am much more worried about Y2K, and 2012..
@gordselectronicshobby3853
@gordselectronicshobby3853 12 днів тому
With all that crap on your workbench, how do you manage to fix anything?
@sparky6086
@sparky6086 4 дні тому
Kind of a crude, macro frequency hopping.
@scottbrady7499
@scottbrady7499 12 днів тому
couldn't resist this AA5 investigation and rescue. only watch Shango066 radioTVphonoNut iz good, just the system of watching these evaluations can be Similar. In-N-Out burger Randy's Donuts alongside Talc Ore is exceptional
@PracticallyFixed
@PracticallyFixed 12 днів тому
Thanks for stopping in. Cheers
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