I might be mistaken but wasn't Tolkien born in South Africa? Wasn't his father, Arthur Reuel Tolkien, a middle class clock-maker of German descent? Did JRRT not marry his landlord's daughter; the bastard child of a bootmaker? Doesn't sound terribly "elite".

And could you show examples of how his depiction of southrons and easterlings was "racist" and how it reflected "British Imperialist ideology"? Thanks.

Thanks for watching.

No, he was middle class - he even says so in several of his letters. And what do we mean by "work for a living"? Isn't tutoring students & working at Oxford as a philologist counted as "working for a living"?

@@avalonmentorsliterature5575middle class in England means something very different from what it means here. Middle class=posh. He was paternalistic towards people who work with their hands. Look at Frodo and Sam’s relationship

@@newjerseyyouth4853 thanks for that. What does “posh” mean? I’m unclear about the Frodo Sam example. Could you plz help me understand?

@@newjerseyyouth4853 this word “paternalistic” - I am unclear on the meaning especially if it is a pejorative.

Thanks so much for the comment. I remember the movie well (if not De Laurentis' wife particularly). I will look into the two titles above as I continue to pursue this project! Westhu hal!

@@avalonmentorsliterature5575 Thanks! Dino De Laurentis' wife was actress Silvana Mangano, I recall she was the title character on 'The Captain's Daughter' as supporting cast. I do remember he included her in Dune as one of the Bene Geneserits priestesses in the Dune planet. She was also celebrity chef Giada de Laurentis' grandmother, too.

Welcome.

I would certainly agree that Bellamy's understanding of capitalism is grossly inferior. He seems to think that there will be abundant supply for all coming from willing work of high quality from all. I earnestly do not know how this would be accomplished. Either we enjoy high quality material in low abundance from people who love their craft (all of whom make proportionate income from their work) OR we have low quality material in high abundance from people who are disinterested in or loathe their employment (some of whom make minimum income, others make below that). But Bellamy's suggestion of having high quality cake and eating it too seems ludicrous.

​@avalonmentorsliterature5575 I suggest checking out Noncompete, he is an anarcho-communist and has a series of videos dedicated to what life under an anarchist model could be achieved. Under a need based industry we would still have high quality goods but not produced in excess like now under capitalism

I concur. My understanding of Bellamy, though, is that his insistence on equality (voting et alia) was primarily for small communities composed of single ethnic (or racial) groups every member of which was equally & happily involved in the employment arena. This seems not only to be an impossibility, but also involves an unspoken (it would seem) necessity for purifying the racial lines and leveling the working hierarchy. Not entirely sure how a society is going to get to this point aside from brutal eugenic methods and unjust economic laws. It is a tragedy that for 100 years people have been trying to achieve this state using just such methods and just such laws.

Here is a neat article that links socialism and fascism claiming that they are different only in organizational pattern: www.abelard.org/briefings/fascism-is-socialism.php?fbclid=IwAR3i8IJ_hHc_1II2OysQeAey4xYTdL7FutuENAmDQ5LHWyIlh-1Xj0QdirA

So for instance, this from an article by Matthew Hartman entitled "Utopian Evolution: the Sentimental Critique of Social Darwinism in Bellamy and Peirce." - "Bellamy critiqued the Dawrinist social ethics of industrial capitalism and substituted his own agapistic ethics, which he outlined in his essay 'The Religion of Solidarity' (1874)... Under Bellamy's Nationalist system, in which the entire economy is placed under the control of the nation, greed has lost its central, motivating role. instead, workers are motivated by 'patriotism, passion for humanty.'" While I agree that unbridled capitalism can be ruinous to the human person, I would question how such a system as Bellamy's could possibly cope with those who don't want to be motivated by "patriotism" or "passion for humanity". How do we insist on people operating out of such noble motives as compassion, agape, or altruism? How do we get people to, say, care for the environment? Legal penalty? Political exclusion (as Galton seems to suggest)? or physical force (like the eugenicists did to those races they deemed ineligible to reproduce)? IDK, but it inevitably seems to necessitate the exertion of the will of some over the will of many. What do you think? Looking forward to your reply.

Thx for the heads up. Must have been something to do with the upload. I'll post another copy of it ASAP.

Thanks again for the heads up. See the link in the description for the new upload.

thank you so much you are greatly appreciated.@@avalonmentorsliterature5575

It's a short read for any viewers who wish to fill in the gap themselves.

Thanks for the comment. It might have been. I will check up on that.

Yep. it does. I must not have recorded that section 10 years ago. I'll have to splice the lines in if I'm to do the whole text. Thanks for the deads up. Reupload sometime this week.

Again, thanks. Look for a newer version in the list.

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Thank you for that. Would this be in the context of Greek mythology? Dante's use of the image? or modern psychology?

I think these insidious ideas will continue to have nasty repercussions for generations yet to unfold.

Glad to help - hope to produce more in the near future. Look out for Book X on the horizon.

TY - that's a great song imo