17. Carthage - Empire of the Phoenicians

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Fall of Civilizations

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[AUDIO ONLY]
Buried beneath the city streets of the Tunisian capital of Tunis, an ancient city lies forgotten...
In this episode, we look at one of the most dramatic stories to come down to us from the ancient world: the rise and fall of the empire of Carthage. Find out how this city rose out of the Phoenician states of the Eastern Mediterranean, and set out on voyages of discovery and settlement that put them at the centre of the ancient world. And hear how the city of Carthage was destroyed, and its memory nearly wiped from the earth.
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Credits:
Written and produced by Paul Cooper
Sound engineering by Alexey Sibikin
Original music by Pavlos Kapralos: / @pavloskapralos3969
Sass Hoory: percussion
Lelu Blesa: vocals
Anastasia Papadopoulou: vocals
June Filetti: oboe
Pavlos Kapralos: oud, vocals, flutes, instrument sampling and editing
Voice actors:
Michael Hajiantonis
Lachlan Lucas
Alexandra Boulton
Simon Jackson
Tom Marshall-Lee
Chris Harvey
Nick Denton
Paul Casselle
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@AbominableBigfoot
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Everybody shut up Fall of Civilizations dropped a new video
@eugene7145
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NOPE, UD REHEEEEEEEYAAAAAAAAAHA
@vikingdesigner1471
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yes
@GlurglePop
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No YOU shut up! I can’t hear!
@chriskane8808
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Here, here! Waiting for video!
@Envoy_Intuition
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Shutting up
@rembson
@rembson Рік тому
Never move away from these "too" long formats. It is pure gold to get to have presentations of these ancient civs where one lets the subject matter dictate how much to cover and how long a time is given to it. Very much appreciated.
@CtrlAltDlt68
@CtrlAltDlt68 Рік тому
The ideal length of a history podcast is "Dan Carlin" length, meaning there isn't a max length where you should cap it.
@patrickirwin3662
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ditto
@Witnessdomaining
@Witnessdomaining Рік тому
The best medicine against my tinnitus!
@shulamiteKINGSbride
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@deanchambers8613
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This format is like half podcast series & half sound movie! & of course once the video comes out it will be even better.
@kkdesignservices183
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The musical theme just gets you in the pit of your stomach. It's difficult to describe, but captures a sense of dread, of lost time, of inevitability.
@jr8260
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If you're referring to the opening piano theme after the intro, then I totally agree. It's pretty simplistic but it captures the emotions of what you described so well.
@kkdesignservices183
@kkdesignservices183 Рік тому
@@jr8260 Yes, the piano piece of chords.
@paulm749
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- and of deep sadness.
@karakerley4230
@karakerley4230 Рік тому
I think I like the way it climbs and peaks, like a civilization I suppose, but you know that first heavy note is coming back. It really does set the whole tone of the program. Somehow the intro was a serious hook for me when I first started listening. The way the narrator starts from an outside perspective before the theme and intro begin. This series is a masterpiece for sure.
@pectenmaximus231
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I am glad you said this. I’m glad other people feel this way too. In my experience, it’s among the most fitting pieces of music ever meant to create atmosphere. I could try to fit words to the emotions it conjures for some time, but I think it suffices to say I find those few bars of piano playing in the corners of my mind regularly.
@phoebehill953
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Some of the happiest evenings of my life have been spent falling asleep to this podcast.
@MrMrUSMC
@MrMrUSMC Рік тому
I really love that detail about a macaque skull being found in Ireland. It's very easy to imagine the people of the ancient world as being cloistered and shut off compared to our own modern interconnectedness, but there was always stuff like this happening. Somewhere, twenty five hundred years ago, an Irish guy came home from a trip to the market with a monkey in tow and probably the biggest smile on his face.
@jamiemcintosh3030
@jamiemcintosh3030 Рік тому
And the people in his village staring and crowding round, asking "What's that?"
@loslobos786
@loslobos786 Рік тому
People always traveled unfortunately they didn't have Facebook to brag about their travels and thousands of years of times depredation is hell on papyrus.
@jimmyjasi-
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Kato was probably lying about supposed boom of Carthage just as Hernán Cortez lied about the size of half starved Tlaxcalan Republic in comparing it to Granada. There could indeed have been a demographic boom in Carthage in her last decades as she had to accommodate both back settlers from lost colonies and as sociology in all ages shows low quality of living causes people to have more children unless there's starvation beyond measure underway. We don't know the costs by which Carthaginians payed Romans reparations... maybe through debt to Tyre and Sidon? Or maybe by melting some gold from their temples?
@jimmyjasi-
@jimmyjasi- Рік тому
,💓Well yeah. I agree. Both David Reich and more recently Carlos Lalueza-Fox have written wonderful popsci books on how globalization has always been a part of human story
@ian_b
@ian_b Рік тому
"Some guy tried to sell me some magic beans, but I got this monkey instead. Result!"
@hannahbrown2728
@hannahbrown2728 Рік тому
Im a simple girl, when I see a Fall of Civilizations video, I drop everything and watch it in one sitting. Looking forward to the next release with added visual context!
@jalight27
@jalight27 Рік тому
Absolutely. I love listening then listening while falling asleep, then later watching with visuals. Just like with philosophy videos, I always gain something new from it ❤
@micomata
@micomata Рік тому
The Punic Genocide -- perpetrated by the ancient Romans -- has always haunted me. Thank you for dignifying this noble people by telling us about their great civilisation, as well as their words and deeds (even their bloodiest ones). I think it's such a tragedy that most Carthaginian literature was consigned to the flames. Paul, your unique gift for storytelling and your empathy for your fellow humans remains unsurpassed.
@jedminor6128
@jedminor6128 Рік тому
Hey man you can't just waltz up and down Italy winning battles and expect to live if you let rome continue to exist
@martijn9568
@martijn9568 Рік тому
​@@jedminor6128 Even sacking Rome isn't enough for that. Just ask the continental Celts.
@massinabdaoui2780
@massinabdaoui2780 Рік тому
The part about child sacrifices is haunting as well
@I_Art_Laughing
@I_Art_Laughing Рік тому
The genocide of infants earned them a spot in history's dustbin.
@clmk28
@clmk28 Рік тому
I can only imagine the loss of such valuable knowledge about their history and the early history of the world. What an immense loss
@Eamonshort1
@Eamonshort1 Рік тому
Man your stuff always staggers me. My University thesis took months of research and writing to put together and was like 25 minutes. How you make these hours long, engaging podcasts is an absolute testament to your passion for history
@TheChesireKat
@TheChesireKat Рік тому
i'm beyond impressed with the research that's gone into this. probably more than i did for my masters degree. and that took me a year to accomplish. his work is insanely on a high academic level but presented so anyone could learn from it!
@simpleman7516
@simpleman7516 Рік тому
Chatgpt dude
@Sean12248
@Sean12248 Рік тому
@@simpleman7516 rofl.
@Ronnet
@Ronnet Рік тому
​@@simpleman7516 "write me a 3,5 hour historically accurate epic on the rise and fall of Carthage. Oh and give it an eerie and foreboding vibe." If only Hollywood knew this secret.
@brucehilton1662
@brucehilton1662 Рік тому
It has been stated that if Carthage had defeated Rome, the consequences for western civilization would have been catastrophic. I certainly am not so sure about that counterfactual thinking. Interesting to think about though.
@tyjandrews
@tyjandrews Рік тому
Legit got goosebumps seeing this! I'm excited you picked Phoenicians because I have some proud friends from modern Lebanon 🇱🇧 It's difficult to describe how much this millennia-old history still affects current, global affairs.
@MiguelFlores-pg8fi
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Felt the same goosebumps when i saw this
@90skidcultist
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Are they "proud" of accidental birth, other man's work, or their own hard-worked grandeur?
@davidbenyahuda5190
@davidbenyahuda5190 Рік тому
Perhaps some of us are unaware that so-called non-black people have no history. I can assure you that as historian who has studied history from primary sources available to serious academics that Black people are the only people who have a history. What has been hidden from view by white supremacists and their cousins is the fact that nonBlack people have stolen everything they have from a particular group of Black people. We can see this being played out even today. nonBlack people steal from Israelites and claim we have no culture. See Anacalypsis by G Higgins.👊🏿🕎⚔️🏹🌽🪶
@thomashauer6804
@thomashauer6804 Рік тому
did they go sacriice on kids or not..
@bigsmookgrovestreet2703
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First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon. Some history is false and distorted, and history is very deep. First, where is Carthage located? It is located in Tunisia, and that Hannibal was born in Carthage and fought in the name of Carthage, not Phoenician, and had nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal the ruler of Lebanon until he was a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, they were local citizens because they were in their original homeland. Was Hannibal the ruler of Carthage, and where was Carthage in Lebanon, for example? No, in Tunisia and Carthage, it is Tunisia, and Alissa did not found Carthage. It is just a legend, and the evidence is because researchers did not find it or its inscriptions. It has a Phoenician influence because they occupied it only, and the occupation of what age has become history. In the end, Carthage has nothing to do with the Phoenicians, and that the Romans and the Greeks created myths to discredit the Empire of Carthage because it had enmity with them, and that Herodotus, the Greek historian, never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he never mentioned that the Phoenicians They settled in Carthage, and the researchers also did not find Phoenician traces and genes. They found Roman traces, but Phoenician ones they did not find, which means that they do not exist.
@eddaniels4731
@eddaniels4731 Рік тому
I was literally just thinking "shouldn't be too long before a new fall of civs", and as if by magic here's a new episode, very much looking forward to giving it a listen
@jojojacques810
@jojojacques810 Рік тому
Wooohooooo!!! Ahhhhh!!!! ❤
@kyleadelaide
@kyleadelaide Рік тому
I was thinking that a few days ago
@theduckcompany
@theduckcompany Рік тому
Honestly they could have milked this story for 2 episodes the Phoenicians and then the Carthaginians.
@river20222
@river20222 Рік тому
Best historian teller of our lifetime, hands down. Someone give this man a movie deal.
@tracymcgeachie7525
@tracymcgeachie7525 Рік тому
Totally agree 👍🏻
@twobucca
@twobucca Рік тому
If that happens, he'll stop making vids for us.
@ethanjp7030
@ethanjp7030 11 місяців тому
@andiiam8145
@andiiam8145 Рік тому
The story of Carthage is truly one of the most heartbreaking tales of all history.
@diatonicdelirium1743
@diatonicdelirium1743 Рік тому
I'd say that they were rather despicable actually, slightly worse than the Romans that replaced them. All of the 'great civilizations' were build on the backs of slaves and immeasurable crimes, maybe with the exception of the Nabataeans. I know: different times, different mores, but that doesn't change the facts as we know them.
@cacogenicist
@cacogenicist Рік тому
@@diatonicdelirium1743 - The total destruction of the libraries, though ... ugh.
@diatonicdelirium1743
@diatonicdelirium1743 Рік тому
@@cacogenicist The loss of knowledge and literature is painful indeed.
@jameskazd9951
@jameskazd9951 Рік тому
@@cacogenicist yeah, just as sad as the Library of Alexandria IMO.
@cacogenicist
@cacogenicist Рік тому
@@diatonicdelirium1743 - A cultural salting of the Earth, so to speak. That was a brutally thorough genocide.
@lucasjames7524
@lucasjames7524 Рік тому
Absolutely wonderful channel! I can't even articulate how amazing this channel is, and how much joy it has brought me. A thousand thanks and best wishes!
@rjlchristie
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He has superb narration skills, right up there with Attenborough.
@whyjnot420
@whyjnot420 Рік тому
@@rjlchristie It is a shame that the full video versions of his podcasts aren't at the same level as the narration. They would be utterly magnificent if they were. (and don't get me wrong, I like them, they just have so much more potential)
@alexanderjohnphilly
@alexanderjohnphilly Рік тому
You said everything I’m feeling
@AnuragKumar-ik1kc
@AnuragKumar-ik1kc Рік тому
​@@whyjnot420 man makes 3 hour long videos. The Aztec one is 5 hours. Let the man cook.
@MrRussiancoma
@MrRussiancoma Рік тому
​@@rjlchristie that is a high bar indeed!
@seancalder8858
@seancalder8858 Рік тому
Mate I am absolutely thrilled to find this new episode in an absolutely marvellous series. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've enjoyed your programs and podcasts listening over and over again. To me, you are the "Attenborough" of ancient history and you have taught me so much about ancient cultures from around the world. Thank you.
@TheDeliciousLegacy
@TheDeliciousLegacy Рік тому
He is such a beautiful storyteller of history! I absolutely love these podcasts more than anything ever!
@keithtarrier4558
@keithtarrier4558 Рік тому
Me too... over and over again I listen. I can't recall every single detail after one, or even a few listens. The more I listen, the more I am amazed at just how 'wonderful' and amazing humans were and have been, despite their "fall".
@skykennedy3574
@skykennedy3574 Рік тому
Sean, you took the words from my mouth. Bravo Paul Cooper! This series is one of stunning quality and remarkable production value. I'm going to pay my respect literally, by contributing.
@assyledhifi
@assyledhifi Рік тому
Awesome. Amazing. Stunning. There's no words to describe how much i enjoyed hearing this masterpiece... I am tunisian living in Tunis, hearing it during my commute to work on the same places some of the events were happening, looking at the hills of carthage in front of my eyes. A thousand thanks, and it's not sufficient...
@FallofCivilizations
@FallofCivilizations Рік тому
Thanks Assyl, that means a lot to hear you say.
@futuf2265
@futuf2265 Рік тому
That's so cool! Is the city taking care of its ancient ruins?
@dewrt2874
@dewrt2874 Рік тому
​@@futuf2265 Yes
@dewrt2874
@dewrt2874 Рік тому
​@@FallofCivilizationsFun fact: Gustav Flaubert built his House on the Ancient ruines of the carthagnian harbor in Tunis
@bigsmookgrovestreet2703
@bigsmookgrovestreet2703 Рік тому
First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo
@alicevonkannon1033
@alicevonkannon1033 11 місяців тому
i'm recovering from surgery, bored to tears, until I discovered this show. Incredible. Is there anything better than an historian who's also a poet?
@MarvinT0606
@MarvinT0606 Рік тому
Pinch me I must be dreaming. Thank you for this, the Phoenicians are the missing-link in the other civilizations you've covered. They suffered one of the saddest endings of any civilization, despite the fact that their neighbors and enemies owed much to them.
@Grenadier311
@Grenadier311 Рік тому
If they indeed sacrificed children, their fate was well-deserved.
@joshthalheimer
@joshthalheimer Рік тому
@@Grenadier311 well, after all, victor writes the story... and Rome certainly has her 'sacrificed children' moments - in fact, ANY civilization involving 'humanity' has a multitude.
@Grenadier311
@Grenadier311 Рік тому
@@nick7832 That's why I said "if".
@Grenadier311
@Grenadier311 Рік тому
@@joshthalheimer Yeah, they prided themselves on not practicing human sacrifice when at the end of a Triumph noble captives of a conquered region were ritually strangled in the Temple of Jupiter. Some say that human nature doesn't change, but I think we've evolved quite a bit into a kinder society than what our ancestors knew, at least in our largesse and luxury.
@Grenadier311
@Grenadier311 Рік тому
@@joshthalheimer But you're right ... many Iraqi children were "sacrificed" to keep the sanctions going, for exemple.
@stephenbecker5936
@stephenbecker5936 Рік тому
I'm having a stressful day at work and this just made everything better. Thank you for your incredible work.
@FallofCivilizations
@FallofCivilizations Рік тому
Thanks Stephen, hope it gets better!
@SofaKingShit
@SofaKingShit Рік тому
Perhaps it will be better when our civilization falls and we get to chill out and hunt and gather. Only half joking.
@veronikalynn5084
@veronikalynn5084 Рік тому
@@SofaKingShit ha thank you for the laugh, I half agree!
@gyllenspetzfamily7993
@gyllenspetzfamily7993 Рік тому
​​@@SofaKingShit if our civ falls say hello to cholera, bubonic plague, a short life and say goodbye to supermarkets, new ready made clothes, having a full belly in spring and living with out walls. We must not allow this, we must love our neighbors.
@CtrlAltDlt68
@CtrlAltDlt68 Рік тому
"I'm stressed out...what's this? A long podcast about genocide? This should be relaxing." It's alright man I feel you haha.
@azorazan
@azorazan Рік тому
It takes a bit, but every time an episode drops, you just know your gonna be in for the absolute pinacle of quality in podcasting, in which no effort was spared at all, making ancient historical storytelling come allive in the finest detail
@intuit13
@intuit13 11 місяців тому
As much as I absolutely love either format, I've been horrendously spoiled by the FoC TV episodes on here, as they were the first contact I had with the podcast at all. Each time a new 'video' (like this) comes out, it's bittersweet as the TV episodes were absolutely the best documentaries I've ever seen, anywhere. I would have thought the funding would have gone through the roof, with a never-ending stream of resources given to keep them coming. :/ Too bad I'm not a billionaire.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 11 місяців тому
@@intuit13 I'm trying to figure out what's wrong? Each video gets a TV episode anyway.
@intuit13
@intuit13 11 місяців тому
@@LordVader1094 oh, so this one will get a TV episode as well? How long do they usually take to release? edit: And, yea, I didn't notice that til now... When I first found the channel I watched all of them back to back. Then I noticed new podcasts that didn't have a TV episode so I thought maybe the TV/docs weren't going to continue (or at least not every episode of the podcast would get one). I see now that those 2-3 episodes now DO have TV episodes. :)
@blakeskidmore523
@blakeskidmore523 11 місяців тому
@@intuit13 Usually a month or two after the audio drops.
@Oll826
@Oll826 10 місяців тому
What love to see a video on how he makes the videos Tbf
@TheVicenteSilva
@TheVicenteSilva Рік тому
I just listened to the entire thing on Spotify. Probably my favorite episode ever! The way you structured this hours long epic was tremendous. Amazing work
@FallofCivilizations
@FallofCivilizations Рік тому
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jamesnicolle237
@jamesnicolle237 11 місяців тому
Terry Pratchett audiobook
@Getcakedieyoung23
@Getcakedieyoung23 Рік тому
In case you ever run out of ideas 😉 The Seleucid Empire, Burgundy and the Qara Khitai Dynasty would also fit into the theme of your podcast.
@Etaoinshrdlu69
@Etaoinshrdlu69 Рік тому
Bactera
@manupontheprecipice6254
@manupontheprecipice6254 Рік тому
The Abbasid Caliphate, The Tokugawa Shogunate, The Holy Roman Empire, The Mongol Empire.
@animula6908
@animula6908 Рік тому
Sometimes I sit and wonder what we are all going to do if he finally runs out of fallen civilizations. Then I look around and remember there’s one born every day.
@KieranTaylor86
@KieranTaylor86 Рік тому
His greatest story is still unfinished, Sumer, Assyria & Babylon, that Civilisation needs an ending
@MarvinT0606
@MarvinT0606 Рік тому
The Celts deserve their own episode, since they've been mentioned many times in this series
@marksaunders1469
@marksaunders1469 Рік тому
Like everyone else it seems, I am absolutely thrilled to see another episode! Love the style, the detail and the consistency of excellence across this series. Very much looking forward to hearing this one in full, thank you Paul, simply wonderful stuff :) PS Great to see so many fellow fans too!
@FallofCivilizations
@FallofCivilizations Рік тому
Thanks Mark, very kind of you!
@TheDeliciousLegacy
@TheDeliciousLegacy Рік тому
So so so good!
@tin-n-tan
@tin-n-tan Рік тому
How good is how it starts. In the year...and YES!
@Xune2000
@Xune2000 Рік тому
I'm not sure when this is going to end, there's only so many fallen civilisations we know of after all, but I hope it's not any time soon.
@tommydaniels1805
@tommydaniels1805 Рік тому
@@Xune2000 every new episode I feel one step closer to the last known civilization for FOC to cover. This is a timeless series that is so dense with interesting well articulated information.
@zackk6819
@zackk6819 Рік тому
Every time I see a new video on this channel I get a feeling only comparable to how i felt as a child when I learned about something new and exciting. Pure joy and fascination. Thank you and all involved for these top notch audio experiences.
@Mulavi
@Mulavi Рік тому
I listen and fall asleep. Start again where I dozed off before but fall sleep again and so on. It may take me weeks to finish a three-hour long episode. I'm not complaining. I like it. Can't beat the combination of content, length and voice. Thanks again. Great job!
@loveli420
@loveli420 Рік тому
I'M SO HAPPY WE HAVE A NEW EPISODE 🎉🎉🎉 hahaha. My day is officially made! Can't wait to give this a listen Paul!
@TheVaughan5
@TheVaughan5 Рік тому
Fantastic! I’ve long been fascinated by ancient Carthage and now we have one of the best history sites on Y,T. covering this subject. Can’t thank you enough.
@knusperli
@knusperli 10 місяців тому
came here because of the epic response on $8chan. Subbed and looking forward to listening to the podcast on my walks.
@mrsnulch
@mrsnulch Рік тому
Ooh, you are covering one of my favorite civilizations of history - my heart skipped a beat when I saw this. I can't wait to watch!
@bigsmookgrovestreet2703
@bigsmookgrovestreet2703 Рік тому
First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo
@alfieroanania3797
@alfieroanania3797 Рік тому
Time for another journey into ancient landscapes and peoples. UKposts is lucky to have this caliber of content on it’s forum.
@robertshaw5599
@robertshaw5599 Рік тому
Paul Cooper for 218 minutes of audio and visual u give us a book of 1,000 pages to read. Well done in compressing time and saving us so much of it, Sir.
@2Phast4Rocket
@2Phast4Rocket Рік тому
I read about the tragic ending of Carthage but I have not heard the full history of this great civilization before. Thank you for your very educational podcast.
@bthorson7979
@bthorson7979 Рік тому
Awesome as always
@kingietk
@kingietk 2 місяці тому
This is the best history channel on UKposts
@natec7815
@natec7815 Рік тому
The last few minutes had me in tears. Absolutely beautiful I never knew the gritty details of the Carthage's fall.
@futuf2265
@futuf2265 Рік тому
I also cried with Carthage's fate! At least, a similar fate had Rome some hundreds of years later
@alekisighl7599
@alekisighl7599 11 місяців тому
​@@futuf2265 Romes fate was not similar to Carthages at all. And Rome lasted another 1500 years not a couple hundred
@futuf2265
@futuf2265 11 місяців тому
@@alekisighl7599 Rome, the city, had a similar fate as Carthage, just not as worse because it wasn't completely destroyed
@giespouwen8091
@giespouwen8091 Рік тому
I love how its easy to create a mental image of the empire because your description in this podcast is so detailed
@sarthurl9001
@sarthurl9001 Рік тому
For someone who had listened to EVERY audiobook on Carthage, or even remotely associated with Carthage I must say that what you have produced here is masterful. Thank you very much.
@Claxiux
@Claxiux Рік тому
As an Iranian, I love our Lebanese brothers. Can't wait to watch/hear the entire episode!!!
@jennydanza3974
@jennydanza3974 Рік тому
Excuse me but iranian and Lebanese are same family.
@bigsmookgrovestreet2703
@bigsmookgrovestreet2703 Рік тому
First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo
@EinFelsbrocken
@EinFelsbrocken Рік тому
@@jennydanza3974 He said brothers? Lol
@cephalophore2631
@cephalophore2631 Рік тому
My favorite segments of these podcasts are the accompanying excerpts, songs, or poems, etc. at the closing. "Imagine..." I felt that this one was emotionally intense because many people interested in history or modern politics even are often keenly aware of the concept of 'identicide'... when we imagine our ancestors or anyone for that matter facing the infringement of their heritage or outright annihilation we can really feel the doom they must've felt. Whether it's the: Carthaginians trapped for three years in their city The Poles during the partitioning, world war 2, or Soviet occupation The Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, etc. during the Turkish genocides. The Persians crushed by the Macedonian, Arab, Turkic, or Mongolian Empire. Native Americans experiencing the conditions of Manifest Destiny. Yazidis, Kurds, Uighurs... even the Basques, Bretons pressured to learn only Spanish/French. Whether it's the Nazis renaming a city to a German name, the Russians or Ukrainians changing toponyms to cities, or the Palestinians who lose their villages.. everyone struggles in this clash of identities. But when we think of how it was for Carthage and how it was presented in this podcast - I almost feel despair.
@TheChesireKat
@TheChesireKat Рік тому
the ancients certainly were not primitive. i'm learning so much from this podcast. as an academic i can really appreciate the research you've done! it's extensive!!! and to put it together as you have is as much work as one would do for a masters degree. you deserve multiple degrees! i'm especially happy to learn all of this holistically and with such a tight focus on origins and daily life, social structure, political life, exploration.... it's all so fascinating. i'm devouring the information! thank you a million times over for your research and presentation of the information. it's delicious and beautiful history!
@wiskasIO
@wiskasIO Рік тому
Staying alive all this time was worth it, thank you FOC Podcast!! 🙏🏼
@Envoy_Intuition
@Envoy_Intuition Рік тому
I celebrate Fall of Civilization video drops more than any holiday 🎉 thanks Paul and the FoC team 💕
@AlinJ.
@AlinJ. Рік тому
This channel is one of the best things that has happened to UKposts. Thank you for another amazing episode.
@simplybtw
@simplybtw Рік тому
i really just use these videos to sleep the voice acting is very soothing
@atomicclockagency
@atomicclockagency Рік тому
This was maybe the best FoC episode yet. The long and detailed description of Carthage's rise and fall, knowing what fate would befall the city was absolutely magnificent storytelling. The sense of hopelessness and despair at the end of the 3rd Punic war was made so real and one can only imagine how "accepting" those final terms must have felt. The coin without a value analogy will stay with me for a long time. Bravo Paul
@FallofCivilizations
@FallofCivilizations Рік тому
Thanks Sam, very kind of you!
@bigsmookgrovestreet2703
@bigsmookgrovestreet2703 Рік тому
First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo
@dur7021
@dur7021 Рік тому
This is a triumph. Absolutely stunning historiography and storytelling. I thought I knew the story of Carthage but I had never weeped at her story before this telling. Bravo
@ChineseKiwi
@ChineseKiwi Рік тому
Before Paul's ancestors were coopers, they were the oral storytellers of the tribe as this talent has to be genetic! Another masterpiece and I can't wait for the 4k visuals! Amazing storytelling, while giving when needed, proper context to explain things in an easy-to-digest manner, that helps me learn about these civilisations while your calm voice while you tell that story means it actually helps me fall asleep when I need to! I don't usually donate but it's the least I could do for this quality of storytelling and knowledge!
@FallofCivilizations
@FallofCivilizations Рік тому
Thanks my friend, very kind of you.
@Trueshtari
@Trueshtari 10 місяців тому
Subbed after that amazing take down of Musk and Cheong. Masterclass work, sir.
@runkeral901
@runkeral901 Рік тому
Since I've discovered your channel, I just love going to bed at night and falling asleep to your videos, allowing my minds eyes to carry me around the world in times long gone. And the only flaw is it takes so long for a new video, even though I realise it can't be helped in order to be quality made. Awesome job, Paul❤and I have some suggestions for future videos. Egypt, the Elamite kingdom, Third Bulgarian kingdom, the Indus Valley civilization,the Naska culture, with the petroglyphs. The Dahomei kingdom in Africa. The ancient Korean kingdom Silla or others from the region. ❤
@jamesf3871
@jamesf3871 Рік тому
Thank you for your hard work in preparing these presentations. They are very enjoyable and I always appreciate them. CARTHAGO DELENDA EST.
@Deridus
@Deridus Рік тому
Cetera censeo, Terra delendam esse...
@scottfoster3548
@scottfoster3548 Рік тому
Love the Egyptian sails, Greek cedar deck, Lebanon wood for masts and oak for oars MAKES me think of Japanese motors for reliability, German/English manufacturing for technological sophistication and Italian for design and beauty. Everything old is new again.
@giash1
@giash1 Рік тому
I was there at the ruins before the pandemic, didn't know anything about them and how great their empire was and finally their sad demise. Thank you for your great work.
@grump9001
@grump9001 Рік тому
There are very few youtube channels that make me as excited to see a new video than this one. You are brilliant and these have seriously been like therapy for me. Listening while I draw, and feeling like I really learned something. Thank you for your work!
@osamafarooqtarar3541
@osamafarooqtarar3541 Рік тому
Wait of almost six months ended today....I just downloaded 2 of your episodes today while waiting for the new release....It would be yet another great episode especially when visuals would be added later
@Tgr2k1
@Tgr2k1 Рік тому
Always a delight to see this channel pop up in my subscription feed. The passion and care put into these podcasts is second to none. Thank you!
@erichighsmith7299
@erichighsmith7299 Рік тому
Perfect for my long haul drive I have tomorrow as a truck driver. Saving this to listen to tomorrow like I just said. Love the series and the amount of work it takes to put out these high quality long version series. 👏 👏 👏
@djbucksd
@djbucksd Рік тому
Probably in my top 3 UKposts channels of all time, and I’ve been kicking around since the beginning. If you’re not already a moonlighting documentarian of some sort, and I’m guessing you are, you should be. Thank you for all the content, truly.
@Piffle88
@Piffle88 Рік тому
Strong work as always, Cooper & Co. I'm looking forward to the video version. Thanks!
@CallmeKenneth-tb1zb
@CallmeKenneth-tb1zb Рік тому
There are not words to describe just how much I enjoyed this episode. I had no idea how brutal and bloody the 3rd Punic war was.
@bigsmookgrovestreet2703
@bigsmookgrovestreet2703 Рік тому
First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo
@ShyFly1000
@ShyFly1000 Рік тому
Why isn’t there an ultra like button?! Because like doesn’t even begin to explain or encompass how I feel about this podcast! The Phoenicians were brilliant.
@hiddenhorizons68
@hiddenhorizons68 Місяць тому
These podcasts are like bedtime stories for the history lover in me. Thank you for the enchanting narratives!
@khavafis
@khavafis Рік тому
I can hardly exagerate how superbly crafted this material has been put together. I subscribed at once. Because I work an independent trade, I can listen at will with my earpods while working even though I have to cut the video in three or four slices. Absolutely gripping story. Thank you.
@FallofCivilizations
@FallofCivilizations Рік тому
Thanks for listening Carlos!
@Pan472
@Pan472 Рік тому
Even though it's an episode about the great Phoenicians, it's more than honouring for my nation, the Greeks, to be mentioned so much in this episode... Congratulations Mr Cooper, watched the whole podcast, and I'm anticipating the documentary version soon!
@turdfurgisin5843
@turdfurgisin5843 Рік тому
Idk how, but this man's voice make even the fall of might empires & civilizations seem calm and soothing lol
@danfromtheburgh
@danfromtheburgh Рік тому
Just did about 6 hours of revisiting older episodes and casually listening to your voice and learning about major events in history. Such a delight to see a fresh episode, especially considering the length and quality. Thanks mate, here take this imaginary donation funded by my imaginary well paying job
@perrywidhalm114
@perrywidhalm114 11 місяців тому
I deeply appreciate all the work and effort you bring to these podcasts. Generally, these videos are quite well presented and historically accurate. The narrator's voice is first rate. Thank you!
@EduPimentel
@EduPimentel Рік тому
This episode is a masterclass. Can we vote for Paul Cooper to become to History what David Attenborough became for nature? There's so much to learn about our past that I want a full history of humans history being done entirely by Paul
@primesonic4459
@primesonic4459 Рік тому
3:35:29 " Thy Great Victories only Show All is Nothingless Below" What a simple and chilling end
@nyctosoutheastasia7175
@nyctosoutheastasia7175 Рік тому
Best way I sleep nights is when I listen to Fall Of Civilization podcast. Seen everyone of them awake also. Great bedtime stories. Calming relaxing. Thanks for your hard work making these videos for us. Much appreciated 🙏
@bogdanvijan1
@bogdanvijan1 Рік тому
Great work Mr. Cooper, Fall of Civilizations Podcast is the best youtube channel of history. Although English is not my native language, by the way Mr. Cooper narrates, I absolutely understand everything. I always look forward to a new episode. Bogdan - Romania
@keenanhowell2070
@keenanhowell2070 Рік тому
The writing and production value of this podcast is incomparable, Paul. I cannot imagine the effort required to produce each episode. I appreciate every detail which, in concert, makes the release of every installment feel like an event. Your exacting standards for excellence remind me to give the utmost to my own endeavors.
@Thestaalos
@Thestaalos Рік тому
Everytime i have to take a long car trip, i check your channel beforehand. Seeing a 3h+ video is like christmas, but for adults. You have the best channel on youtube, noone can compete
@sickcommode-odragon4193
@sickcommode-odragon4193 Рік тому
Fantastic job. Grandmother was Lebanese Christian from Tripoli Lebanon and always identified with these dudes.
@russelljackson2818
@russelljackson2818 Рік тому
Wow... just, wow. Another incredible epic. I stayed up far too late but I couldn't stop listening. Your work is only getting better, Paul & Co.!
@SimonPuterbaugh
@SimonPuterbaugh Рік тому
We have been blessed with more greatness. Thank you all at the team.
@samjackson7244
@samjackson7244 Рік тому
You put me to sleep 😴 thank you friend! 🙏🏼
@87mrreynolds
@87mrreynolds 10 місяців тому
I feel so insignificant in time and history when I listen to this podcast to know so many empires have risen and fell in history is incredible
@atomicclockagency
@atomicclockagency Рік тому
Did anyone else also love the introduction of the formation of the Alps midway through the episode? Just when you thought there wouldn't be any description of tectonic plates sliding underneath each other - bam - right there in the second half
@joaoabegao2888
@joaoabegao2888 Рік тому
The poem at the end... Got me in tears... Beautiful episode. Thank you Paul, and to everyone else involved.
@ChineseKiwi
@ChineseKiwi Рік тому
1 million views and it isn't even the video!!! MORE THAN DESERVED PAUL!!
@viewfromindia
@viewfromindia 10 місяців тому
This guy brings back more culture than all cultural programs of the world
@Aktentasche1
@Aktentasche1 Рік тому
Your stuff is the absolute best when it comes to historical podcasts. Thank you so much!
@DivineByDesignWithDani
@DivineByDesignWithDani Рік тому
Seeing a new video dropped totally MADE MY DAY ! Been waiting forever for new content. Thank you so, SO much ! I can hardly wait to dive in
@greyfells2829
@greyfells2829 Рік тому
These always hit hard, this one hit especially hard. There's a vast potential branch of history thst was cut off when Carthage fell. I'll admit it, I cried.
@chuckmiskel6553
@chuckmiskel6553 3 місяці тому
You are a great story teller. I could see sitting at a campfire listening to you in the olden times. Thanks for your hard work
@t512100
@t512100 Рік тому
Amazing work Paul! Been looking forward to your videos! Thanks for the enlightening videos you produce!
@JSoftic
@JSoftic Рік тому
Masterpiece after masterpiece. Cant thank you enough for all the work you do. This is just so well done, as everything else you put out. Nothing but the best for you and rest of the team.
@bigsmookgrovestreet2703
@bigsmookgrovestreet2703 Рік тому
First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo
@antoindearg5614
@antoindearg5614 Рік тому
Ah, most of the next 4 yours is going to sound divine. Thank you FoC, you make my insomnia bearable.
@slothkng
@slothkng Рік тому
i love these so much Carthage is one of my favorite civs
@ros1424
@ros1424 Рік тому
Made my day, so looking forward to these. Love the culture and poetry he finds and uses. Truly worth waiting for. It's a lovely treat in these days 🤗
@sevenprovinces
@sevenprovinces Рік тому
Oh wow! I asked for this in a previous video of yours. Now I'm not self-involved to see a correlation, still this totally brightened my day. I so wanted to learn more about the Phoenicians, but could never tackle to condense it down in the eloquent, poetic yet gorgeously liner and to-the-point kind of way. Thank you so much team FoC!
@nar0nx
@nar0nx Рік тому
Every single episode of this channel is a reason to rejoice. Thank you!
@scienceoctal7524
@scienceoctal7524 Рік тому
You and your hardworking team must have earned the approbation of even harsh documentary critics. Congratulations.
@mickandcharli9942
@mickandcharli9942 Рік тому
What a beautiful tragedy . Given the respect it deserves by your retelling sir . Congratulations to you and your team
@mikoshino
@mikoshino Рік тому
Ok i‘m SO ready for this. Waited ages. I‘m not even exaggerating if i say that literally anything Paul puts his hands on becomes amazing. Thank you SO much for this. Will watch in the evening!
@thatcandont
@thatcandont Рік тому
I feel asleep last night listening to a guy flipping through an f1 book from the 80s and I woke up listening to this, went back to sleep a couple times because the dreams were crazy good. Can’t wait to hear episode 1
@adeleestrada8035
@adeleestrada8035 Рік тому
Something must have alerted my inner clocks because I checked this site earlier this week and then today, surreally, this!!!! What an excellent choice so worth the wait!!!!! My son and I rejoice with every new issue and enjoy many a discussion each time!! Thank you, Paul Cooper and devoted Fall of Civ team!!
@diatonicdelirium1743
@diatonicdelirium1743 Рік тому
Being ill I went to re-listen to a FoC podcast while in bed... only to be surprised by a brand new one, thanks Paul! Lying down in the dark I appreciated your style even more, with the tranquil music and the great voice acting bringing the story to life.
@spambotfodder
@spambotfodder Рік тому
As usual, Paul you have provided an AWESOME podcast - thank you so much for the catalog of historical civilizations that show the ancient times are worth learning about. Two thumbs up from me!
@TheLunargypsy
@TheLunargypsy Місяць тому
I'm utterly distracted in life now by the need to learn more about the dyes and music. 😅 I've listened to this particular podcast almost everyday this week
@David-tg2uc
@David-tg2uc Рік тому
Thank you Paul! I have been waiting for this episode.
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