Dude, I was just saying to myself….how can a legacy company like motortrend have such SUBPAR video content. It’s almost unbelievable!! Definitely in large part the personalities…..or lack there of! But it’s more than that, just overall production quality sucks. But yeah, the people they have, from the most recognizable, like Jonny Lieberman should never ever be on camera……The definition of a “face for radio”, to these two duds. It’s legitimately terrible…….from the publication that I couldn’t get enough of, growing up.

When you have a person which is right of the school (Jalopnik/ Drive) and the only thing which is taught to write brash headlines and talk alphas like #u€K so then that’s what you get. On the other hand the totally disconnected dozed off person just agreeing as if there’s nothing to think and add about. Albeit if Chevrolet is winner nothing wrong with that. However, there’s more rough area which people are exposed to in their dailies rather than focused on Rock climbing. LOL, it’s just the other way round 😂

The chick is ok but that dude is missing a few chromosomes lol

Came here to say this. Have these two ever actually gone off road before this review? And was this actually off road? I saw 1 scene that I would be tough in a Honda Ridgeline.

Did my comment get deleted lol

Agree

I’d agree with Truck King they are great!!! I can’t watch TFL anymore Roman has ruined it for me. I make sure to walk the ones that have Andre he’s great!!

@@2lopezd same. I don't know what it is but he's the most off putting awkward presenter they have. Maybe it's his weird non sequitar, bad jokes and ice cold takes. He's just so awkward

@@assaultlick2169 yeah I remembered when they first started their channel but over the years. To me he’s been like more cocky is always referring to him as the CEO of the channel seems to belittle the other guys

@@2lopezd Roman definitely has some awkward “dad” energy but I still enjoy videos he does. Andre and Nathan are a great pair in videos

they Got the wrong image that's from the 2500 hd ZR2 not the1500 ZR2 Which they're hidden. 2500 are Expose

You know this isn't about the half ton trucks right?

also the Ranger has exhaust tips tucked up into the bumper

The 1/2 ton one is sticking out of the side though. If you crush that in your off-road adventures, you’re also crushing your rear fender. But there are many obstacles that you will come off of where your rear bumper touches down on big rocks. With the exhaust in the rear, the exhaust pipe will immediately get crushed shut.

@@dipstiksubaru3246 You know they mentioned the Silverado ZR2 has a tucked/hidden exhaust and showed a picture of a big huge exhaust pipe sticking out the back, right?

Love his work on Hagerty as well as the Carmudgen Show with Hyphen.

Yea, The "Diverse" chick is bland, boring and made me just say "F*ck this video" after 30 seconds. I'm unsubscribing.

And Carlos and everyone else Johnny managed to run off during their heyday. Neither one of them will speak on it but they both walked away from what was one of the most popular automotive review shows on YT. always wondered why

​@assaultlick2169 I used to follow Johnny. He is the true definition of narcissism. The second he started calling people idiots for disagreeing with his politics, I was out.

@@KornPop bingo. As exec producer I guarantee it's him specifically co hosts couldn't stand

Greed. Wanting to be a TV channel instead of just staying in top of the UKposts heap. Can't keep good talent either

Clearly, it died 🤣

None at all. He acted bored

What are payload & tow specs for both ? Not much here ...

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because they said at the beginning that they were looking to see what was the best all-around truck for the widest segment of the population. not a lot of people would take their $60K trucks to Moab and do all the stuff you THINK people would do. You want to do it? there are plenty of other channels that would do that for you. Plus, those aren't their trucks and they would like to maintain the manufacturer/press relationship, which could suffer if you took the press vehicle and blasted it the way some Joe Blow (like you) would want to as if it were a rental truck.

Sarcasm?

@@dipstiksubaru3246yes. Absolutely sarcasm.

I'm glad because I'd be fine driving a rust bucket on those trails

The Ranger RAPTOR is king

Needs a sun roof and some red exterior and door highlights. Other than that it's good to go, of course I will personalize it a bit, to make it mine.

Having just as much torque as the raptor is pretty impressive though.

Ford fanboys need to take the blinders off and face the truth. 😅😂😅😂

Look i owned 2 f150 raptors and 1 raptor R and still own a built bronco raptor.with that said i know have a zr2 bison this truck is awsome i agree the v6 will kill zr2 open road but zr2 will do everything else and its way better looking imho than the raptor

😂😂😂

Except neither can out do anything the trd can when their both stuck at the dealership under recall or just generally broken.

Tfl broke your precious tacoma in 5 minutes on a trail. You Toyota fan boys are deluded.

​@assaultlick2169 so because an early truck broke 1 part off road that's somehow worse than these 2 ? Pssst, hey, your ignorance is showing!! 😂

@@dipstiksubaru3246 cope

​@dipstiksubaru3246 New Tundra's are having major engine issues, and 2024 Tacos are blowing engines and differentials like crazy.😂

Whats a real raptor.you mean a bird?

@@casper24ism must be hard to have a slow brain eh?

@edr.2642 no dumbass all raptors are real raptors

He was the sandlot

Um.... not in a truck.

@@B4Uagain I do. Having driven a Gladiator Rubicon, I'll take my 2024 ZR2's front IRS and ride quality on pavement or off any day of the week.

Until you snap a cv or bust a front aluminium diff case.

You’re**

To early to tell. We just got the new ranger. I didn't see one on my local lot until February.

@@keventaylor8295 I am talking about 5 year old Ranger, with rotten chassis

Imagine the only takeaway you got from a comparison was a haircut.

​@@BlueFL5there is nothing else to take away from this video because it puts you to sleep after 45sec.

​@@BlueFL5do you feel this was a good comparison compared to their competitors here on YT?

@@dipstiksubaru3246 then say that. Give actual feedback so this channel can improve

Typical Motor trend, brought to you by GM, woke GM that is.

Doesn’t require premium fuel, the DSSV dampers are incredible and the ride is stupidly comfortable. It’s also got more than enough power for what it does. Cruising on the highway with the 2.7 is deceptive because there is so much torque in the low end you find yourself casually reaching 80-90 mph if you’re not being mindful of your speed on empty roads. Plus it can tow more when needed, has ventilated seats, and vents in the rear. The Raptor is also great, but I can understand why they would pick the ZR2 as a better daily.

@@DavidWright-kc6qg Tfl....Andrey opens fuel door, and after saying Ra Ra needs premium, sees a sticker that says 87+ , Fox live valve are also incredible, and one youtube owner already extemely happy dailying his. 95 more warranteed more horses....yeehaw !!

The ZR2s are available because they’ve been delivered. They’re also the fastest moving in any chevy vehicle. They also had crazy markups in the first few months of availability. I saw 10k over sticker at a dealer. Being impossible to get isn’t a positive either. ZR2 is down on power, but it also has far more support in the aftermarket for accessories and it’s a substantial improvement over the previous generation that was already a great vehicle. The ZR2 costs less, can tow more, has longer travel in the suspension, better angles, and is more intuitive. The Raptor has mroe HP, and the fox live valve mean they can never be lifted and they can’t get larger tires which is a big deal in the off roading segment. They’re both incredible vehicles, but while they each can do 99% of what the other can do, the Raptor loses out on capability and comfort.

Lady's choice pick, men prefer more cylinders and more POWER !!

@@DavidWright-kc6qg Keep telling yourself that mate, the rest of us know better !!

Im very happy with my truck, and my extra 1000 pounds of towing, and ventilated seats, and my kids love having the vents in the rear to keep them comfortable. The Raptor has a better engine. But somehow that only translates to a little more on pavement acceleration and less towing.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have a dog in this fight. I traded my 2020 Raptor in and bought a 2024 F350 SRW 6.7HO Platnium Tremor so I could tow a 5th wheel RV and have Offroad capable truck. I am only going by what the presenters said and chose. Personally I really like the ZR2 but would probably still go with the Raptor because Chevy chooses not to show the driver as much information and I tend to go with speed over everything else. The Ford HO 6.7 is 500hp and 1,200 foot pounds of torque.

Biden's economy is better than Trumps by nearly every metric

You can’t put larger tires or a lift on the raptor. The live valve system in the suspension wont let you and it’s the only reason to buy the truck. Because of that it isn’t able to fit larger tires without a significant amount of cutting. The ZR2 doesn’t need more torque, and power in a race on the dirt is less important than being able get the power to the ground. The ZR2 allows you to keep the lockers on up to the limiter in Baja mode while the raptor kills the locker at 25 mph.

@@DavidWright-kc6qg tell that to ford’s engineers that’s telling us that we can

What are fords engineers telling you? That the wheel arches are larger than they are and that modifying the amazing electronically monitored and controlled suspension is A OK?

@@DavidWright-kc6qg yes. And youtube is free. Google is free. I have the raptor and I lifted mine. Lol. Works great almost a year in. Ignorant

​@@ErnestMarvinEsteban the engineer even said in an interview that the ranger can't fit 35s without cutting and you can't level it because of the suspension haha

It died when they decided they were a cable TV channel

After the Amazon deal (grand tour) they probably want faaaaar too much money for anyone to pick them up again in a hugh productiin value series

You mean Jeep? they have one.

@@jeffmofo5013same

@@jeffmofo5013 yeah it sucks

Bring back the Dakota, maybe?

@@jeffmofo5013 Yeah but that’s too different

That spare 95 HORSEPOWER should manage to easily overcome that 400lb ! Ever been on a 95 horse 400lb motorcycle ?!

@@arkhsm it is unfortunate that the weight is approaching the F150.