3080 vs 3090 vs 4080 vs 4090: Don't get ripped off

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Buying a high end GPU is complicated right now. The RTX 3080 and 3090 prices are actually going up, but their used prices have come down quite a bit. The 4080 is available near its MSRP, but that MSRP is extremely high, and the RTX 4090 is still selling way above its MSRP. In this video we look at how these GPUs perform at 4K and 1440p in a variety of games including new graphically demanding "next gen" titles, along with some older games as well as RT ON/OFF. The test system specs are below, and all footage was captured on an external capture card to eliminate any recording overhead (although this can introduce screen tearing to the recordings).
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro- how to read the stats, which GPU cooler models, etc
2:16 "Next Gen" Game: Plague Tale Requiem 4K Ultra
3:14 Plague Tale Requiem 4K Ultra DLSS Quality
3:44 Plague Tale Requiem 4K Ultra DLSS Quality vs Quality + DLSS 3 Frame Gen
4:15 Plague Tale Requiem 1440p Ultra
4:44 The Callisto Protocol 4K Ultra
5:39 Ray Tracing Max 4K The Callisto Protocol
6:32 Ray Tracing Max 1440p The Callisto Protocol
7:24 The Callisto Protocol 1440p Ultra
8:18 Cyberpunk 2077 4K Ultra
9:26 High refresh 4K Settings Cyberpunk 2077 (High w/DLSS Quality)
10:34 Ray Tracing Ultra 4K Cyberpunk 2077
11:42 Ray Tracing Ultra 4K w/DLSS Performance Cyberpunk 2077
12:50 Ray Tracing Ultra 1440p w/DLSS Quality Cyberpunk 2077
13:58 Cyberpunk 2077 1440p Ultra
15:07 Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 4K Balanced
16:15 Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 1440p Balanced
17:18 Forza Horizon 5 4K Extreme
18:49 (Vulkan) Red Dead Redemption 2 4K Favor Quality Max
19:51 DX 11 God of War 4K Ultra
21:06 Horizon Zero Dawn 4K Ultimate
22:19 Final Thoughts- don't get ripped off

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@Kapono5150 Рік тому

How does this man find the time to be a dad, teacher, and make youtube videos. Enjoying your content man

@danohadrovic2400 Рік тому

His wife

@Jc-lh4mr Рік тому

Probably copious amounts of caffeine.

@Keivz Рік тому

He’s also a husband, a gamer, and keeps up with gaming news. He’s obviously two people.

@Danie0l0ntertainmet Рік тому

I don't get the dad part always about those comments? Are your kids 24/7 helicoptered by American parents like literally every second the eyes are on them and you interact with them every second you can? He can be gaming or reading/watching on your tablet/phone while his kid plays with the toys or siblings, watches TV whatever or is with the mother? I don't get those comments, do you try to keep them busy every millisecond of your life so they're not even one millisecond alone and not busy?

@TerraWare Рік тому

He eats his Wheaties in the morning.

@mazuscrow1983 Рік тому

this channel deserves more and more, thanks man for the great work, keep it up, much love

@murmur3966 Рік тому

Thanks Daniel, I really appreciate how detailed your analysis is, without having to much "technical jargon". Have a Merry Christmas.

@17-. Рік тому

Thank you so much for this video! I have been watching almost all of your gpu videos since November and this one is definitely one of the most useful. I love the way you compared the performance in various different ways. You made me realize a lot of things about what I want versus what I actually need. I really enjoy how much effort you put into each video you make! Keep up the great work.

@soiltek2015 Рік тому

I second this sentiment. Great job Mr. Owens 😂

@victors.6439 Рік тому

Thank you so much for all your tremendous effort you put into your wonderful videos. I really enjoy them.

@patattack1919 Рік тому

Best review to make sense of a complicated landscape. Thanks so much Daniel

@Mnemik1 Рік тому

great video man it's hard to find a video like this that just gets to the point of what we need to know about the options during generation changes.

@Sebbz Рік тому

You pump out so many good videos for us consumers. Keep up the great work and enjoy the holidays 🎄

@colinglynn5563 Рік тому

It's nice how the 3080 is still barely available at MSRP and the 4090 price/performance at MSRP is basically the same as the 3080, so no value improvement gen on gen

@omarcomming722 Рік тому

Scamvidia at play. They didn't launch a new generation, they just expanded Ampere into higher price tiers which may very well be their plan going forward.

@nuanil Рік тому

Just proves nVidia intentionally cut down the 4080 to either scam people that bought the 4080, or drive people to buy the 4090 instead.

@GuyFromJupiter Рік тому

Value was never really there with the 90 series cards, same as the Titans. They're halo cards for people who will pay whatever it costs to get the best. It's the 4080 that should be an improvement in price to performance over the 3080, and it most certainly isn't. That's why it's selling so poorly compared to everything else.

@RicochetForce Рік тому

@@GuyFromJupiter Correct. The jump fro the 3080 to 4080 is something like 33% to 50%+ depending on the game, and even higher with Raytracing on. But Nvidia knows if the 4080 was priced at $800, they'd NEVER clear 3000 series stock. No one would buy the old shit when for a couple hundred more you're taking a generational leap at least.

@raikaru0 Рік тому

I mean you can get a used 3080 for $500

@TheRealLink Рік тому

Hey Dan! GREAT video! Definitely something similar to what I'd make except I'd have more charts and less footage when I did my 3090 vid. Watched the whole way through and I believe you hit the nail on the head with all your comments. It's not that 4080 performance is bad per se, just that the pricing sucks, as you said. And yes, while the 3000 series are definitely 4K cards, new games do tax them. I achieved similar results to your Cyberpunk 2077 performance on a 3090 FE with an older Skylake X OC'd CPU (20s, RT Ultra, DLSS off, 4K) and closer to 45-50 (playable enough for me) at 4K Ultra with RT Ultra, DLSS Auto. Since I do rendering and other production work, the 24 GB of VRAM made a 3090 my only choice so hopefully I can snag a 4090 FE sometime! But it's super cool to see a definitive suite of benchmarks with all four cards to see just how close (or far ahead) the newer cards get. Thanks!

@SpudCommando Рік тому

Wow lots of extensive coverage here, I very much appreciate the effort you put into your videos and talking points!!

@stevetriple8 Рік тому

As everyone else has said, thank you for the amount of effort you put into these videos considering you have a full time job and family priorities. It certainly doesn't go unnoticed! Great video as always, keep it up!

@Krashulka Рік тому

I game in 4K with my Gigabyte RTX4080 OC 16GB with ray tracing when available and have set the GPU to do no more than 60 FPS, as my 70 inch tv in 4k is only 60Hz/60FPS. I always get a smooth 60 FPS with all games, 1 frame may drop to 59FPS once in a blue moon, but otherwise it's great for me as I don't play fast FPS shooter games. Running the 4080 like I do, I'm lucky to hit 55 degrees on the GPU and CPU, and even with the graphics settings maxed out, I'm lucky to hit over 200watts unless I turn on Ray tracing too. I'm not even making this card break a sweat at all by stopping it from creating frames I will not use (GPU set to 60FPS max), and that's without frame gen and without FSR or DLSS. It's a great GPU I recon and I'm very happy with it. Cheers

@Havanu81 Рік тому

This is a great video. Very illuminating to see the impact of the different cards in different scenario's.

@H20-Water-Pro-LLC 9 місяців тому

i a gree

@Atodaso 7 місяців тому

You are very well-spoken, and present the information in a manner which makes sense. I appreciate that. Thanks!

@Doodleschmit Рік тому

watched this video through after seeing your Witcher 3 update performance review. Really like your presentation of the data, and I agree with basically every assessment I understood! Been looking at 3080's for a good time now since I'm more than happy with my 1440p144hz display, and I think this info has only reinforced that I probably won't need much more than a 3080 for now. At least until I finally go Ultrawide later down the road!

@valrond Рік тому

Excellent job, Daniel. This must have take a while. Those % are very indicative of the relative performance, you don't see them very often (other than techpowerup). BTW, that 3080 is the 12 GB version, which is a bit more powerful than the regular 3080, close to the 3080Ti. A regular 10GB 3080 is slower and in VRAM intensive games it shows too.

@HourRomanticist Рік тому

He says in the intro that it is a 12gb vs 10gb and knows it is slightly faster.

@VizioN-Scope Рік тому

He already explained that in the intro. Btw the 3080 12gb vs 10gb is no more that 2-4 fps better in most modern games playing at 4K

@H4GRlD Рік тому

@@VizioN-Scope Unless you run into some VRAM issues.. I'm debating to go with a relatively cheap upgrade from my 10GB 3080 to a 24GB 3090 just purely because of the VRAM aspect.

@iiamnev Рік тому

Just found your channel, despite this being a long video, I found the information and content showed here to be very interesting and educational. No bullshit or repetition. Good on you Daniel.

@wazzuppoo Рік тому

Wow, that explanation in the beginning was 10/10! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

@seventyfive1 Рік тому

I bought a 4090 and have no regrets. Gamer dad with more money than time right now so if I'm going to only get to play 30 min a day, I want to really enjoy it. I played with a lower end card for a long time and the secret to still enjoying myself was turning off the FPS counter :D

@programmer6428 Рік тому

rock on im a sbo with little time to game but when i do i want it the best it can be

@lilzeddy Рік тому

Always wait g prices drop newer better ones release

@stevewake6614 Рік тому

You have chosen....wisely

@byletheisner5006 5 місяців тому

@@lilzeddyThat would make no sense for those who want the top as he implied he did.

@Haley2077 Рік тому

I got an used Asus TUF rtx 3090 for 600 usd (used to be mining but still in very good condition). I was lucky. I couldnt imagine to spend more than 1000 usd to get a decent graphic card. The next gen graphic cards prices are insane. No matter AMD or Nvidia. I would stick on my used rtx 3090 for a very long time. Hopefully GPU matket would be different at that time

@VeniVidiAjax Рік тому

Got my evga ftw3 ultra 3090 for 950 bucks. No mining. Pretty happy with it.

@Misfit626 Рік тому

I got a brand new 3090 Strix for $700 and i'm fine with it for now

@Carter_02 Рік тому

Nice found me one for 800 its been awsome

@TimoteonSK Рік тому

@@Misfit626 sure :D :D :D

@TimoteonSK Рік тому

@@Misfit626 i have 3090 strix brand new for 600 .believe me ?

@megadylando8 Рік тому

Just subscribed very informative video! Can't wait to hear your takes on topics.

@reganmorben9248 Рік тому

Really informative Daniel! Thank you.

@markro92 Рік тому

Thanks for doing these in-depth comparisons. Great from a technical standpoint, everything in sync and good commentary, keep it up :)

@logokas Рік тому

These are some important numbers and points that most GPU reviews, including even as detailed as GN doesn't necessarily cover in such a clear and balanced way.

@Stouzough Рік тому

Good info but I wish you also addressed the flight simulation games (FS2020, Il-2, DCS...). The RAM probably makes more sense here, but no idea where the better value is.

@jpowell20007 Рік тому

Hey man, during your God of War benchmark, you left Red Dead 2 resolution setting text on the bottom of the screen. Great content. Keep up the good work!!!

@jaysway007 Рік тому

Very helpful, thanks for posting

@Harrave Рік тому

The 4090 FE is going for $3150 (2,336.51 USD) where I live, absolutely insane, I built my PC with my 3070 just almost 2 years ago now, I don't think an upgrade is needed anytime soon anyway but I really appreciate these benchmarks!

@pointbrake3183 Рік тому

nice somone who isnt rich and also smart a 3070 is perfect for 1440p and some games 4k

@derekrison8461 Рік тому

same here I will not be upgrading anytime soon. I am more than happy with what I have...

@pointbrake3183 Рік тому

@@derekrison8461 what gpu u have

@derekrison8461 Рік тому

@@pointbrake3183 water cooled Asus 3080

@valentj3 Рік тому

@@derekrison8461 water cooled Gigabyte 3080, those cards are holding up for sure.

@Kam9002 Рік тому

I'm writing this while still watching a video. I noticed that little bit of redness in your eye. We always appreciate your videos, you're crushing it lately and it's a pleasure to listen to you, but still we care about your health, if it's nothing serious then by all means ignore this, if not then I hope you get better soon and remember if you need a few days off to get some energy back then by all means do it, we don't want you to overdo it. It's been a blast seeing your channel grow, can't wait to see a video with yt play button plate. Ok back to the video now.

@accelement3499 Рік тому

i bet watching the counters go up (views/subs) is like a drug haha hard to stop

@rather-reverend Рік тому

I noticed that eye too - and this guy said EXACTLY what I was about to say: Take care of yourself, man! You're doing great work here - but your health and well-being is more important than a bunch of guys on youtube. (Unless there maybe comes a point when you say goodbye to teaching and make this a full time gig? I coud see it happening.)

@johnboylan3832 Рік тому

Thanks, Daniel Owen. Have a good Xmas and New Year!

@pepe8196 Рік тому

Recently have come to discover your channel. Keep up the great work Daniel

@razorphone77 Рік тому

Great review, I love this channel. But what really gets me is that even if I bought a 4090 at a cost of £2k (I live in the UK) there are still some titles where I cant crank all the settings up at 4k including ray tracing and get over 60fps. That tells me that the market is broken.

@stevechristensen1463 Рік тому

Which titles?

@razorphone77 Рік тому

@@stevechristensen1463 Cyberpunk, Callisto Protocol. So if there are already games like Cyberpunk which is 2 yrs old, which u cant play at 4k with RT on with flagship cards that came out 2yrs later, there is something broken. How will even the 4090 cope with games released over the next 2 yrs?

@phattjohnson Рік тому

I can play Mirror's Edge maxed out at 4K on my old 2070.. but if you're gonna be pushing the absolutely limit of realtime CG images on your PC, with RTX and all the latest crap from 2022 which isn't even fully optimized in drivers yet.. yeah, you'll probably lose a frame or two!

@24YOA Рік тому

You need DLSS. Cyberpunk on a 4090 won't break 120fps at 1440p with RT on. While it kinda sucks, DLSS is the solution to piss optimized games.

@razorphone77 Рік тому

@@24YOA So is it poorly optimized games, or is it that hardware just isnt up to it yet?

@fragalot 7 місяців тому

i'd be more interested if you included the 4070 since that card is on-par with the 3080, but it uses less power, and doesn't cost $800.

@InfoDailyDose Рік тому

You did very well by putting both percentages in it, thanks mate....!!

@isaacjamestea9652 Рік тому

Came across your video for the first time. You're a great guy. Subscribed

@sw1zzy940 Рік тому

its either a 3080 or a 4090

@diarmuid4191 Рік тому

Yeah 3090 and 4080 dont really make sense tbh

@soulonr419 Рік тому

Well, have to say, that the 4080 is suprisely power friendly compared to the others, save up to $50/$100 a year on electricity.

@Pvt_Hudson Рік тому

@@diarmuid4191 Ok let me pull an extra $500 out my ass :)

@Venom_Byte Рік тому

Bought an aorus master 3090 for 750 3 months ago. 3090 will last longer than 3080 with only 10gigs of VRAM. 3090 was the obvious choice. Plus I game at 4K, so that 24gigs of GDDR6X is gonna be needed. Upgraded from a 1080 Ti.

@johnboylan3832 Рік тому

@@diarmuid4191 I sold my 3080 for £550 and bought a 4080 for £1150. £600 for DLSS 3, lower power consumption, and 30-40% improved frames for the next 2 years is acceptable. It is overpriced though.

@rongyilim9740 Рік тому

In my country the 7900xtx costs about 1260-1360 USD, while recently we experienced some major price cuts on 4080s across retailers. Eg, the Gigabyte Gaming OC costs about 1400usd, while the Rog Strix models had a crazy price drop of about ~300usd to about 1550-1600 usd. At that point I just got a 4080 instead, as they are widely available and little the savings is to wait/go for amd.

@Zombie101 Рік тому

isnt the 7900xtx better than the 4080?

@TheSwayzeTrain 10 місяців тому

@@Zombie101 In straight rasterization yes and it has more VRAM. However when you factor in power consumption, DLSS and ray tracing performance, if the prices are close, for most users the 4080 is the better pick. The XTX would have to be significantly cheaper in order to be competitive unfortunately.

@uncleelias Рік тому

What a fantastic and useful comparison and analysis.

@lchrlstlanl Рік тому

Thanks for the 2 different perspectives

@DropDeadZed Рік тому

I was able ton get a 3090 for $900 the other day and stand by my decision to skip the 40XX series. This card will do me just fine especially since I do production creative work.

@xpodx 4 місяці тому

Yea really wish the 4080 had 24gb.. I'm skipping it too, gonna get the 5090

@theprophet2444 Рік тому

900 dollar for a 3080 is disgusting and it's even a 10GB version. But it's just what nvidia wanted, they are driving prices up so the 4080 looks less silly. I am quite happy with my 600 Euro 3080 I got a few months ago, now they even want 750 euro here for a used one and new ones are selling at 900-1000 euro, it's crazy.

@Longlostpuss Рік тому

When I got mine, there were 3080s were all over the used market for £600-£700. I even saw a 3080ti go for £800, but that was a tad too high for me, wouldn't have spent more than £750. As long as the condition is good, it's worth going to the used market. Mine had its full box and everything, could still smell the components as if new and paid £625.00.

@Andytlp Рік тому

certain institutions need to check nvidia out theyre probably withholding gpu production to pump the price. Demand is all time low post crypto which is suspicious as fuck.

@razmo2063 Рік тому

bro please tell me how did u got a 3080 at only 600 euros???

@gurjindersingh3843 Рік тому

Is it including tax? In India it starts from the equivalent of €811 including 18% tax. 3080 Ti price starts from €937. The US MRP which is advertised does not account for VAT/GST.

@CoCo.-_- Рік тому

@@gurjindersingh3843 nearly every country outside the US incl tax tbh, eg i got my 3090 in england for £670 icl tax

@nomack23 Рік тому

Most meaningful benchmark I've ever watched on youtube. Thank you!

@Darlemonte Рік тому

Instant subscription. Great work dood.

@MrSeppieD Рік тому

Another important point to touch on is energy efficiency (Flops/W), which is much better for the 4000 series, owing mainly to the physics of employing smaller transistors, and as such provides an argument in favour of the newer technology. Bear in mind that GPU performance is mostly limited by power draw and heat dissipation, so a higher efficiency translates to higher frame rates for similar consumption. However, they can also be configured to deliver similar performance for lower consumption, which makes the newer technology more attractive, even if its peak performance capabilities were overkill (especially in places where environmental awareness and/or electricity costs are a thing...).

@plasmahvh 7 місяців тому

4070ti can be power limited to ~200W and you lose ~5% FPS which is incredible

@johnwicks4936 Рік тому

I sure wish more content creators would include MSFS2020 in their testing. It's one of the most demanding games out there and there are a ton of us sim enthusiasts that want this info.

@ganthrithor Рік тому

Allegedly MSFS very CPU-intensive which might be a big reason it's not benchmarked, as it may not discriminate between GPUs very effectively.

@Fishintheseas Рік тому

@@ganthrithor msi was build for gaming to be real.

@Joegengstah 5 місяців тому

Quality video. Btw why is your left eye so red?

@smit816 Рік тому

i thank you for making sense of any card worth, thnx to your vids i knew what graphics card to buy as its actually a bit tangable what im getting for my money

@fanofentropy2280 Рік тому

I'm quite happy with the 6800xt I just bought, (thanks for all your 6800xt videos !) I'm hoping it'll last as a 1440p card until the AMD 80xx / Nvidia 50xx gpu's come out and I can upgrade to a mid-high range 4k ray traced setup. Keep the videos coming and happy holidays to you & your family.

@ViolenceOfWind Рік тому

I bought used rx6800 2 days ago. Works like a charm

@jubayerwasidraiyan5874 Рік тому

as long you don't use ray tracing im pretty sure you can keep using it as a 4k card till then. I just hope developers don't get any lazier than they already are lol

@ICaImI Рік тому

Depends what kind of monitor you have. 60fps? sure. 144-165? doubt it will last long. If at all.

@blacknemesy Рік тому

I'd be surprised if the 5000/8000 series are actual 4k high FPS GPUs priced at mid range, the demand for 4k is still very low and monitor for 4k are still expensive. The 4090 can do 4k great even without frame gen but don't expect 120/240fps to be the norm, next gen might do 4k 120/240fps as a norm but it will be as far removed from mid range as the 3090/4090 are

@Turnkey_BM Рік тому

@1440 I imagine it depends on the games you play but I bet it'll keep going for a good long while. The 5700xt I had for the last 3 years was doing great I just felt like building something new.

@renatoramos8834 8 місяців тому

There is no 4080. It's a 4070 called and sold for the price of a 4080.

@kamyd6668 Рік тому

Thank you ! this make sense, you answered a lot of my questions about 30Series into 40Series choices I think i will wait and buy the Asus strix OC 4080 (without coilwhine i hope), maybe the price will dropa bit in 2023 (who know CES is on the way :D) ! have a nice Xmas and end of year :)👍 cya

@andred212 Рік тому

Merry Christmas to you and your family Daniel. Take care

@bobsidian 6 місяців тому

I bought a 10gb water-cooled 3080 for $900 from EVGA and was able to sell my founders edition 3070 that I got for $500 at $900. It was a great deal that I felt like I couldn’t pass up, but in hindsight, I kinda wish I held out for a 4090. I upgraded to a 4K monitor a year later, and I find myself more in the graphical settings menu more than the game itself sometimes.

@mommyanddaddywerealiengods 4 місяці тому

it means that the game sucks

@Dizzeke 4 місяці тому

I just got a 4080 and my personal recommendation would be to wait until the 50 series if you're on 4k. it was underwhelming upgrading from a 2080 super to 4080 at 1440p. its a good card but I still get less than 60fps at max graphics at 1440p with the second strongest graphics card that currently exists. i wouldnt feel comfortable buying a 4k monitor with any 40 series card right now lol

@Jaykurosakii 3 місяці тому

@@Dizzekesomething must be wrong I get way better fps with my 4080 than that what games are you referring to

@Dizzeke 3 місяці тому

@@Jaykurosakii ark and eft.

@sudd3660 Рік тому

i notice that new games are way to demanding, i got my 3080 12gb early this year and new games or rtx features are hard to run in 4k, most games do not have dlss or fsr. a 4090 would help me out a lot but the price is even worse in my country. price difference is 2.3 times what i payed for my 3080.

@platinums99 Рік тому

@Daniel - How do you feel about Price fixing vs Build Costs for both Manufacturers? The topic seems to be gathering steam.

@LiveBenchmarks Рік тому

Congratulations on 100K subscribers! Well deserved bud

@Jankylulu Рік тому

Finally! An awesome conclusive video on comparisons. Now I know that I’ll just stick to my 3080; the 4090 is waaaay to expensive (even though it does perform almost double) thanks for the vid, keep it up!

@d-rabbitfor5398 Рік тому

It performs almost double but costs more than double

@AxeDragon1989 Рік тому

The price is definitely insane

@Dynoids Рік тому

Thank you very much, may be able to get my hands on a 3090 for under 800 Oh also the decision was based on blender as well. I use blender and a lot of CAD software and the 3090 is almost as good as the 4080 with more vram and way better than the 7900xtx which I was looking into

@limitlessconnection Рік тому

Also I don't suppose younhave your hands on a red devil 7900xtx I'd love to see some content on one of them vs reference and also OC differences! Hope your well Owen! Keep up the content. Your one of the best for gpu info 👌

@valrond Рік тому

Look for ancient gameplays channel.

@limitlessconnection Рік тому

@valrond can't find anything on the what I mentioned above no comparison between the two cards mentioned or any mention of the red devil card

@thewoolydanith2088 Рік тому

Display port 1.4 on the 40 series cards is capped at 120hz at 4k right? so does that mean any performance more than that on those cards is just lost? Or am i misunderstanding something there?

@danielbottlik2604 Рік тому

So happy I bought a 3080 12gb back when prices were down, got a FTW3 for $750, much better price to performance than pretty much anything else here.

@frosty1865 Рік тому

got it for around 750 too back in october

@ultimategohan1551 Рік тому

Good choice you made. Shame that only lasted a couple months and now all the mid to high 30 series/rx 6000 series are OOS or back to high prices.

@frosty1865 Рік тому

@@ultimategohan1551 Holy crap I did not even realize how expensive they have gotten searched up prices after your comment

@SameBasicRiff Рік тому

Same, 12 GB Strix OC for ~ 800 USD (in Canada too) late October - great deal even now.

@shockwav3xx Рік тому

Bought a rog strix 3080 12 gb at 820 €

@jpotts1515gaming Рік тому

I was able to get a RTX 3090 Ti Founders Edition from a good friend of mine for $850. Fantastic card and ill be set for several more years. My CPU is brand new too.

@taintedrageXX 5 місяців тому

I’m looking to switch from Unity to Unreal. I currently use a MB Pro 8gb and looking to switch to Desktop. Any recommendations on specs (graphics card)?

@Pvt_Hudson Рік тому

Great information, thanks!

@puppetmurder Рік тому

power draw of the 4080 during the cyberpunk benchmark is actually crazy! 50 -100w less than all the other cards, O_O. So much overclock potential. If only the price reflected 3080 launch prices *cries in displayport 1.4a and 2.0 tensor cores*

@SameBasicRiff Рік тому

Picked up a 3080 12 GB strix OC here in Canada for ~800 USD (1075 CAD in late October) and it still looks like it was a great buy even after new drops from each team.

@phuongtrang280 Рік тому

Same. I bought a the same card for $620 and the guy only used it for 2 months. I checked the receipt and the warranty, I felt like the hot best deal for the 3080

@Tectosaurus Рік тому

Same, I managed to get a MSI Gaming Z Trio 12GB for $1040 before tax from Newegg a couple month ago. I don’t plan on upgrading anytime soon, it’s a beast.

@bachkhoi9450 Рік тому

Just got my 3080 Gundam edition around ~$615

@hopey1809 Рік тому

And I got my 3080 with a custom Arctic Freezer Waterblock AiO for 590€ 3 Weeks ago. What a deal!

@kunhaz Рік тому

Amazing, good work! 👊

@mediocreape Рік тому

such detailed video, so well made! I've subbed and liked and now commented too to boost the algorithim. Keep going man

@Yxar Рік тому

Sitting on an 3080 that cost an arm and a leg playing on 4k as my old computer I played on crashed in middle of gpu crisis haha. And I'm surprised it actually works as well as it does :). Personally just going to skip this generation of gpus. Just some random thoughts that it is very viable to play 4k on an "old" 3080 and if your like me, playing mostly old titles this card is still going strong if you can get it for cheap. Edit: Thank you for the comparison Daniel :)

@AdamantMindset Рік тому

if anyone currently has decent gpu from last 2 years and looking to upgrade for 4K gaming, my advice would be to just save your money and get 4090Ti when it launches as it will have updated DP port for high refreshrate monitors. there is no reason to look for middle ground. get yourself the best option and don't worry about anything. i mean you really arent a budget PC gamer if you looking for 4K gaming. most gamers are still on 1080p and using 1650. so basically you have enough revenue source to get better system, so use it wisely and save for 4090ti

@longebane Рік тому

i don't know man. just got a 3070 for $350, i get ~110fps on HZD High/Ultra with 4k (DLSS doesn't bother me). That's pretty budget. I realize your caveat of upgrading from the last 2 years. Just pointing this out to other people that it's still ok to not get a halo card

@AdamantMindset Рік тому

@@longebane even i picked up a used 3070 so I'm aware of it's performance xD i'm talking about those who have enough disposable income to get $1000+ cards, for them they should not wonder around 7900XTX or 4080 just get the best option. its only negative is 4090 having old DP port

@henryfisher9948 Рік тому

@@longebane realistically, 4k gaming at high refresh rate is a total meme. On 27-32" displays, its a waste of money compared to 1440 as its virtually the same, and doubling the performance needs. For single player games, high refresh rate is once again a meme, and anyone looking to push frames for competitive shooters like cod, overwatch, etc will be playing at 1440p at most, as it makes no difference on sub 32 or even 34" monitors compared to 4k. Honestly for the casual single player story gamers out there, it would be best to be a console couch gamer with a ps5 at $400 usd and widely available as good hardware for those types of games is kind of a waste

@longebane Рік тому

@@henryfisher9948 what makes it a meme? Diminishing returns sure, but I still enjoy and can discern 4k120 (though realistically, I'm not hitting 120 on a 3070) on single player games with my 27". 27" is a desktop size, so I'd be sitting close enough to notice quality improvements with the 4k ppi

@henryfisher9948 Рік тому

@@longebane over 1080 absolutely. Over 1440p at that size? Sheesh, I remember LTT did a blind test on that a few years ago and no one could tell the difference. More power to you for future proofing with a 4K though, could make a minuscule difference in battle royale if that’s your cup of tea.

@joaowar0 Рік тому

I would suggest taking the percentages out of the way after they were presented, it gets in the way of the visual comparison. Overall, good work!

@skorp1on747 Рік тому

What is the program used to get the measurements seen at the top of the screen? Edit: Nevermind, i think it's "MSI Afterburner."

@cptwhite Рік тому

Bought a RTX3080 10Gb for £470 2nd hand, 6 months old and receipt for warranty purposes supplied, immaculate card and box. No regrets :)

@aaronhiggs Рік тому

Congrats. I bought my 3080 at retail and have no regrets.

@clownavenger0 Рік тому

Yeah got mine new for around 700 2 years ago. Most gaming displays are still 1440P and I don't mind DLSS Quality for the extra performance so most of my games run at 100+ fps. little reason to upgrade at this point. I've yet to run into an issue with the 10GB vram.

@nicane-9966 Рік тому

as long as there it at least 1 year of warranty on the used card i would buy it. other than that nopes.

@nicane-9966 Рік тому

@@clownavenger0 at 1440p hardly u will find any issue with 10 gigs atm, maybe in 2 years, unless u like to apply many mods to your games that might make a diff

@Miskatonic-University Рік тому

Bought an EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 for 700 Eur, with 2+ years warranty. With the 4090 being almost 3x the price in Europe, not tempted to upgrade for a 70-80% gain in performance. Still playing older AAA games which run perfectly fine at 4K100 anyways.

@jaegermonster5540 Рік тому

Great Video, but I would like to see the 3080 TI and the 3090 TI as a larger comparison. I know it may be hard to get those cards but it would help truly show the difference between highend graphic cards

@UltraReaper233 Рік тому

The 3090 Ti really isn't much of a gaming card as you think it is. Plus, it barely offers any real performance increase from a 3090. And the price to performance on that card is HORRIBLE. And it has the WORST temps out EVERY card. Including the 4080 and 4090. I have a 3080 Ti and it basically performs SLIGHTLY slower than a 3090 so that's really your baseline is essentially the 3090. The reason he didn't put up a 3080 Ti or 3090 Ti is because they don't offer much of a difference compared to a 3090.

@jaegermonster5540 Рік тому

@@UltraReaper233 hey you seem to know a lot and I'm very interested in some of the new graphics cards as the 30 series is virtually unobtainable. I currently have a 3070 FE and am wondering if it would be a good idea to go for a 4070 ti.

@Antares-dw9iv Рік тому

@@UltraReaper233 It's actually faster than the 3090 by a surprisingly substantial margin while usually being available for around the same price. The 3090 is a lot closer to a 3080 than a 3090 ti in performance, so if anything 3090 feels a bit redundant given how close it is to a 3080 12GB it is.

@cebuanostud Рік тому

Are you getting the new LG 27in. oled monitor?

@youssefsaid6076 Рік тому

Thank you !!! really professional

@chartabona Рік тому

I just got the 4090 FE for $1439, so I'm all set. I'd hate to be one of those folks who paid even a cent over MSRP for the 4080 and can't return it now, because Best Buy is selling 4080 FE's for $1079 with a promo code. The 4080 is a good card. It's just not $1400 Good.

@anthonybaker5199 Рік тому

That's an excellent deal 👌 👍🏾 👏 😀.

@don7777s Рік тому

At this point, 1079 isn't bad.

@CasualG-mer Рік тому

Performance aside, the 4080 impressed me with how efficient it was in this benchmark...if only the price didn't suck lol.

@RicochetForce Рік тому

Yup, Gamer's Nexus said it best: The 4080 is fucking excellent. It's ridiculously performant, efficient, cool and quiet... but the price is complete BULLSHIT. Think about that: Nvidia is willing to scuttle its own product to upsell people on a 4090 and make the overpriced 30 series look like a good value.

@johnboylan3832 Рік тому

I bought one and I had the chance to buy a 4090 for £450 more while I was waiting for delivery. After a bit of agonising, I stayed with the 4080 and I have to say that after undervolting, getting 4K/100+ at 200-250w is absolutely mind-blowing to me. It is the king of power efficiency this generation.

@CasualG-mer Рік тому

@@johnboylan3832 Man, that is one heck of a card, I'd call that a better value than even the 7900XTX. Though, I'm gonna go for a 4070 or 4070ti as I'm using 1440p with my 2060, should be a very big upgrade.

@johnboylan3832 Рік тому

@@CasualG-mer Yeah, I am excited to see what the 4070 gets down to with an undervolt. Hope you grab one!

@jeevan1198 Рік тому

I will likely be upgrading my 1080 Ti to the 4090, or I might wait for the 4090 Ti. The 4090 Ti is rumoured to be around 15 to 25% faster than the 4090 in ray traced games, which will be a decent performance uplift over the 4090. I’m sure this will be of the biggest upgrades someone has ever done.

@salsa83 Рік тому

Great video Martin Shkreli!

@Riseuhh Рік тому

hey Daniel, new to the channel and you breakdown everything perfectly. That being said I have a question. I currently have a Ryzen 7 5800x and an Asus rog strix 3070ti, my main title I play is call of duty. The previous cods I could easily get 220+ fps max settings on 1080p, but with the newest one (MWII) i`m barely getting 180-200fps with majority med-low settings. My question is, what component/components should I upgrade to get 280+ fps on higher settings? thank you

@UltraReaper233 Рік тому

If you're aiming for super high framer rates...you may want to get a 3080. I believe it to be enough of a bump for you to achieve the fps you're looking for. I personally would never want to go any higher than 165, but since you are definitely very competitive...that is really the only thing you can do. Even if you were to get a better CPU, it definitely would not be able to give you a good or even any real FPS boost at all. You're limited by your GPU here. Depending on the pricing of a 4070, it could be worth it to upgrade to that. But since Nvidia only cares for money now, it's unlikely it could be a better "price to performance" deal. The 4070 will be faster than a 3080 but it's just what it could be priced as that may make it or break it. I haven't looked into the 4070 much. You can probably find used mining cards that are much cheaper than brand new ones that are still probably above MSRP just in case you're on a budge of any kind. And somehow no one knows this but used mining cards are pretty much safe to use. There's no real performance dip from comparing a used mining 3080 or a brand new 3080 for example. You can look it up to see for yourself! Hopefully, that helps answer your question.

@Riseuhh Рік тому

@@UltraReaper233 hey thanks for the response! Yeah so I’m actually looking at the 4090 but I’m slightly worried if any of my other hardware will not be up to par with it. I’ve done a decent amount of research and I think I’m okay. As far as the price of the 4090 technically it’s not bad since I bought my current GPU during the price rape times lol. So the price of the 4090 is basically what I paid for my 3070ti

@j.m4a1 Рік тому

@@Riseuhhif you haven’t bought it yet, I would personally go with a 4080 instead as the cpu bottleneck with the 4090 really hinders it’s performance at 1440p and brings it down to 4080ish frames per second. Unless the new 7000 series X3D chips can keep up with the 4090 I would suggest the 4080.

@pookie619 Рік тому

I can't believe people say that the 30 series are becoming obsolete because they're "2 years old" eventhough they're still high end GPU's. Thank you once again for your great content. All your videos are very insightful and honest :)

@vincev4630 Рік тому

Its funny cuz most games wont ever run as bad as cyberpunk because cyberpunk is so poorly optimized in general. Theres gonna be less demand for video cards as time goes because games dont really need much realism to sell anymore, they need more creativity.

@xXAlmdudlerXx Рік тому

I mean compared to the new ones they are kinda high mid range

@JathraDH Рік тому

@@vincev4630 Portal path tracing demo says hello.

@lordfenix17 Рік тому

High end shifts to midrange. My 3070 is getting dragged through the mud.

@JathraDH Рік тому

@@lordfenix17 70 series has always been upper midrange, it was never high end. High end has always been 80/90 series.

@JamesSmith-sw3nk Рік тому

You can run in to vram problems with the 3080 10gb at 4k especially with user created content like Far 5 arcade maps. Once the vram runs out then performance drops like a rock. I went from a 3080 10gb to a 3090.

@OmgHeDidntJustDoThat Рік тому

shoulda got a 4090

@Dempig Рік тому

@@OmgHeDidntJustDoThat 4090 is still too weak. Its not worth upgrading untill a card can run native 4k high fps with RTX and NO CRAPPY DLSS. DLSS is so garbage I wish they would stop focusing on it, its literally unusable at 4k it looks so bad.

@dezyLmedia Рік тому

@@Dempig lol, are you kidding me? DLSS is such a life saver at higher resolutions. Sure, at 1440p it looks mediocre even at the Quality setting (depends on the game) but at 4K the Quality setting looks great. Change the DLSS version and you'll be amazed what difference another version can do (2.3.9 and 2.4.12 v2 are highly recommended).

@Dempig Рік тому

@@dezyLmedia Every game ive used it in , it looks terrible. Not sure what my version is though. I game on a 65 inch tv, dunno if it looks better on smaller screens but DLSS looks worse than just playing at 1440p and letting my tv upscale. It looks MUUUCH worse than native 4k to me, especially with a lot of motion on sceen. DLSS also gives me a weird bug where my fps will just tank hard after awhile for no reason.

@Dempig Рік тому

@Salt Maker I have a 3080, thanks for your input though. DLSS is garbage.

@romankozlovskiy7899 8 місяців тому

3080 vs 3090 was the saddest performance boost ever

@mattvmani Рік тому

This is the video everyone needed, really excellent work!!! Merry Christmas to you guys!!!

@elitedestroyer0083 Рік тому

This makes me so happy with the $500 3080 I got like 3 months back.

@kuranhelix278 Рік тому

I jast bought a 3080, think I make a good decision (updated from a 2060 laptop to a 3080 desktop)

@elitedestroyer0083 Рік тому

@@kuranhelix278 My 3080 actually replaced a 2060s as well

@kuranhelix278 Рік тому

@@elitedestroyer0083 Let's go! Ex 2060 gang

@ChrisAlbertH47 Рік тому

There's no doubt that the 4000 series are amazing. Impressive tech and hardware. But the pricing is not giving people the value they're expecting with each generational increase. Because essentially, you end up paying for those extra performance. So you're not getting more for your buck. You're getting more for _more_ buck.

@mpadlite2925 Рік тому

Thanks for another great video.

@PallavBhardwaj-dry_ice_cool Рік тому

what are better CPU for ray tracing then? The ones which are faster or the ones which have more cores?

@flo3906 Рік тому

just got my 4080 today for a 240hz 27" wqhd monitor. even if the price drops 200-300$ next month i am fine with it. the 4080 should do well a long time on 2k

@user-du8yt9gv1m Рік тому

My plan is to get 4080 rig in 2-3 months, but my monitor will be 27'' 4k. I think just will turn down to 1440p in the most demanding games and call it a day. Well done choosing 4080 man! Fuck 4090's price and TDP

@Megatrance9000 Рік тому

@@user-du8yt9gv1m 4080 is great for 4k especially with DLSS3 and Frame gen.

@googlewolly Рік тому

The 4080 is overpriced. Anyway, I know that a lot of people incorrectly use "2K" to refer to 1440p. In case you're doing that, I'll just let you know that the closest mainstream resolution to whatever "2K" would be would be 1080p. A little hint is this: why is 4K referred to as "4K"?

@googlewolly Рік тому

@Salt Maker Yeah, man. Apparently, even some computer stores refer to 1440p monitors as "2K."

@user-du8yt9gv1m Рік тому

@Salt Maker what is your problem, kid? The GPU is the main question of this conversation, hence everything else up to taste was omitted

@Aaron14LifeZZZ Рік тому

compared to last gen NVIDIA GPUs, the gap between the 4080 and 4090 is HUGE.

@chynagods Рік тому

That's a normal move from Nvidia.that 4080 is actually a 4070.But we charge 1200$ 🤣 Nice one

@sigmamale4147 Рік тому

The price increase is also HUGE thankfully

@chrisprilloisebola Рік тому

thats how it should be but the cost still doesnt make much sense. These prices across the board should be lower

@stevewake6614 Рік тому

no point in buying a 4080 I'll be amazed if they sell.

@10GreenDragon10 Рік тому

I see you upgraded your pc system congrats, how is the 7700X doing, are ever you upgrading to 7800X3D?

@skullmangamerz1144 7 місяців тому

Dude I appreciate your work...

@AndrewB23 Рік тому

If you're going to spend $1,000-1,100 on a 3090/ti you might as well spend the extra $100 for a 4080, that's the only reason why I bought one and why I don't believe the price isn't too overpriced for the power consumption, performance, and temps

@googlewolly Рік тому

Or get a card at a reasonable price.

@ItsAkile Рік тому

What's also crazy is the 40 Series temps, that performance out the box at 2700mhz and running around 55-65C at 4K MAX RT. Nvidia really is in a class of their own though the outrageous price problems. 308012 seem to be a pretty good option for Future Titles as the High-End Starter card 👍, 4070ti should be around that target also

@24YOA Рік тому

It's insane. I own a 4090 and it will no joke PASSIVELY cool on a lot of games. Was playing Hell Let Loose with the boys for a few hours and my fans only came on when I spawned in, since the display shifts from a 2D map to a 3D world. After a few seconds, the fans turned off and stayed off. Temps below 60°C. All of this at 1440p/144hz.

@ItsAkile Рік тому

@Sneef Starter card of high end, not starter in general but the 4070 will likely replace it

@ItsAkile Рік тому

@@24YOA that's nuts man

@sboss77036 Рік тому

Fantastic analysis with realistic price concerns and setting options. You deserve a Ph.D. in computer hardware.

@myamaha62 Рік тому

I was looking in your equipment and was wondering what type of video editor software do you use? My son is getting into streaming and doesn't know what to get. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

@danielowentech Рік тому

Davinci Resolve for editing (extremely powerful free version is available). For live stuff like the greenscreen I use OBS (also free).

@myamaha62 Рік тому

@@danielowentech thank you very much.

@Denniz69 Рік тому

In my opinion my rtx 3080 was a bang for the buck😅 So much power for 730€ thats insane!

@DemetriKing123 Рік тому

Just got myself a 3090ti. My wife got it for me for my birthday recently. Beast of a card, also I have a i9 12900k. So I’m going strong! Also I still have my Series X too.

@alexvswrld Рік тому

Definitely good to go, enjoy 👊