5 Common Mistakes New Linux Users Often Make

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If you're new to learning Linux, there's a few pitfalls that you may run into. In this video, Jay goes over five common pitfalls new Linux users often encounter, and will also give you some expert tips to help you along your journey.
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00:00 - Intro
01:07 - Mistake 1: Running the wrong Kernel
03:22 - Mistake 2: Always using the root account
05:03 - Mistake 3: Premature Installations
06:54 - Mistake 4: Giving up on difficult Subjects
09:27 - Mistake 5: Focusing on just one Distro
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@trevorfarrell5720
@trevorfarrell5720 2 місяці тому
6. Stick to the more mainstream distros until you know more. They have larger software repos, better documentation and help forums.
@repairstudio4940
@repairstudio4940 2 місяці тому
Agreed 💯. I see ppl run head long into Kali or Arch and give up immediately. They could've instead went with Linux Mint or a Ubuntu flavor and had a much better experience learning Linux.
@colbyboucher6391
@colbyboucher6391 2 місяці тому
Yep. Anything Debian-based is the way to go if you never want to think about compiling software yourself.
@Romek_S
@Romek_S 2 місяці тому
@@repairstudio4940Well, in terms of "larger software repos" Arch with AUR wins :)
@ytbone9430
@ytbone9430 2 місяці тому
@@colbyboucher6391 I wish this was true, there is a lot of stuff out there, which does not run on Debian (stable) e.g due to missing or outdated dependencies. Just last week I was trying to run the LinuxMint image viewer on Debian, it failed. Debian does not meet version dependencies of 1-2 packages. Asking the developers to lower their compilation target, so more people could use their software was responded with "Just install Linux Mint DE" - hilarious. I also tried an official emulator binary for download on Github, it was compiled against most recent CLIB version, no way to run that on Debian. If you try to compile things for yourself, you will also have trouble with things being outdated. I am quite new to Linux, but this is not fun at all. I cannot remember a single software not running on Windows, because it required an update to a merely 9 month "old" library/package which is not even released yet for that OS. o) Do the Linux people reinstall 2 times a year or how do they get bleeding egde uptodate installations? Or can all these things be fixed with "apt update/upgrade"? I don't think so, you cannot update a v9 (Buster/Jessie?) Debian to v12.5 (Bookworm) or can you?
@inf008shorts
@inf008shorts 2 місяці тому
For example, Nix OS.
@golvellius6855
@golvellius6855 Місяць тому
I have 15 years using Linux and still i consider myself as a noob
@hassansyed5661
@hassansyed5661 6 днів тому
Why?
@PlagueDoctor-ow2zt
@PlagueDoctor-ow2zt День тому
skill issue
@1400Lines
@1400Lines 2 місяці тому
6. Avoid copy pasting commands on the internet without understanding what’s that for. Especially with the * or - or - or r/rm/R, even if the command came from the official forum or website😅
@lorenzozapaton4031
@lorenzozapaton4031 2 місяці тому
You don't know the adrenaline rush of installing NixOS, as your only system in your new laptop, because your friend told it's a cool OS, and you have to do important work the next day.
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 2 місяці тому
Need any help? If you need to do work, I would recommend using a proven PC for the time being instead of one you just installed a new OS on.
@lorenzozapaton4031
@lorenzozapaton4031 2 місяці тому
@@encycl07pedia- Jokes aside, I tried NixOS, not my thing and I have to say, I don't get it. The language is not hard to learn but the whole configuration, finding guides, videos, etc is really hard. I hope flakes become stable and part of the official documentation, even using home-manager took me a lot of time and while I had a more or less working PC with the base config and home manager, it was a pain in the ass to make it work. Yes, you need to know Linux BEFORE trying to use NixOS, I have to admit I don't know too much about Linux even after so many years using it.
@TomCee53
@TomCee53 Місяць тому
Considering you have options for running multiple versions, this is low stress. 1. Live USB 2. Virtualization 3. Second PC. I pickup up a used all-in-one for $50. It’s pretty old, but handles the basics, and is great for learning without impacting necessary work. Combined with live USB distributions lets me check out new releases with minimal issues.
@RedSaint83
@RedSaint83 2 місяці тому
Regarding mistake 4: Write down complicated commands in a document and make notes of what the purpose of said commands are. Keeping a cheat sheet helps a lot. I'm torn whether it's useful to turn some of these complicated commands into aliases myself, because I want to learn, and I don't really do that without seeing the syntax, but that's another possibility.
@fordonmekochgalenskaper5665
@fordonmekochgalenskaper5665 2 місяці тому
TheLinuxExperiment had an video a few weeks ago with usable terminal applications, he mention a program called Autin that saves all your used commands and there you can list and search for your old used commands, it's very helpful.
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 місяці тому
I could not agree more for multiple reasons on all of your comment especially given that I daily make use of a tool called xdotool... and it lets me see automatically commands tight and what the results are if I wanted to this is how I am still refining my quote install and set up PC quote bastard file
@SuprousOxide
@SuprousOxide 2 місяці тому
And remember a quick Google search will find you the options to make most commands do what you want, or provide a different command you can use.
@user-ps5up3og2h
@user-ps5up3og2h 2 місяці тому
1. It's important to note though that the first thing one should do if they have such hardware issues is look if their distribution has newer kernels available instead of just switching to another distribution. For example, Debian has newer kernels in official backports repository, Mint has Edge ISO with newer kernel, Ubuntu has HWE kernels, etc.
@VirendraBG
@VirendraBG 2 місяці тому
This channel has pure gold content on Linux.
@Book_Bird
@Book_Bird 2 місяці тому
We don't often get goofy thumbnails! Came for the thumbnail, but stayed for the content (great as always!)
@jorgemtds
@jorgemtds 2 місяці тому
Daily driver: Linux Mint Backup: Linux Mint Debian Edition 😄
@sportbikeguy9875
@sportbikeguy9875 2 місяці тому
i just switched to LMDE6 as daily driver.... now im thinking of just going straight debian lol
@spiderron1463
@spiderron1463 2 місяці тому
that's it.... had never a plan B being on mint.
@GFunkEra1992
@GFunkEra1992 2 місяці тому
very informative. Thanks for the tips
@DaveSomething
@DaveSomething 2 місяці тому
"apt remove alsa" was a bad idea I had once...
@jeffg8485
@jeffg8485 2 місяці тому
Yup! Been there, done that. It made perfectly good sense at the time. Lesson learned!
@lawrencekumi-agyare581
@lawrencekumi-agyare581 2 місяці тому
I am stuck on that as a new user. How do I completely remove installed package from either Kali or Ubuntu? I installed VLC but any attempt to remove that bad boy fails.😂
@seansingh4421
@seansingh4421 Місяць тому
@@lawrencekumi-agyare581and if you cannot find the package by the name, sudo apt install synaptic and then use the gui package manager to look for the installed package and completely remove it
@HazexDimond
@HazexDimond 2 місяці тому
i see learn linux i click
@TomCee53
@TomCee53 Місяць тому
Have you subscribed? You wouldn’t want to miss new content.
@darthkielbasa
@darthkielbasa 2 місяці тому
I dig your cable management on the wall. Classy.
@ayonmukherjee5539
@ayonmukherjee5539 2 місяці тому
Look man, I'm a physicist and I use both vim and sed on the regular. So, even though you can intuitively understand what sed does, learning vim presents one with a much steeper learning curve. Vim is absolutely indispensable if you wanna code well, but almost completely foregoing the use of the GUI is excruciating for people of a generation growing up with GUI's around them! Rewiring your brain is not easy. Thus, if you aren't writing long and complicated code, or dealing with incredibly large data files, or aren't working on a server, stick to gedit! But, do use sed!
@jamesalles139
@jamesalles139 Місяць тому
Emacs.
@Henry-sv3wv
@Henry-sv3wv Місяць тому
>Vim is absolutely indispensable if you wanna code well if your time has no worth and you want to "configure" your "IDE" instead of writing your program code in vscode. now i want to switch language. and the vim plugin installation and new shortcuts learning and incompatibilies between plugins game begins anew.
@onebeartoe
@onebeartoe 2 місяці тому
Nice video, thanks for sharing!
@hyperprotagonist
@hyperprotagonist 2 місяці тому
For a second I thought Ricky Gervais was featured on the thumbnail.
@RedSaint83
@RedSaint83 2 місяці тому
Jay is like Linux' version of Chef John from Food Wishes, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Love the content.
@wisteela
@wisteela Місяць тому
Great video and sudo t shirt. I really should get a Linux Mint one.
@MichaelDustter
@MichaelDustter 2 місяці тому
As usual, LLTV is one of the very exceptions I always love watching about Linux at this point. Doesn't get elitist, isn't toxic, fanboyish, and videos are just on point. It's just so refreshing after all the fanboy rabbitholes I've been through. Pretty much all points can agree on, but highlighting especially 3, that is just something that can get frustrating, and it's not only about hardware. I just found personally that in software, you could be fine most of the time as long as you just use Linux exclusive software, the most true rabbithole is when you dive to support for Wine software and gaming, or just try anything Windows related in it through that. That's where you get so many factors depended upon (what DE you run, is it nVidia or AMD that you are on, X11 vs Wayland, in gaming - what Proton version you have, do you try to run through Steam or a standalone game, be it bought or pirated? - and hell, at some precious times, even a different kernel somehow strangely behaved bit different in a game, and so much more). And 5 I also absolutely agree with. Learn a backup distro plan. Hell, I'd even say distrohop. It's not bad at all to learn how all the different distros work, as you just get a so much better picture of Linux as a thing. You never know when your main distro can end.
@Ironic_Jihad
@Ironic_Jihad 2 місяці тому
Good job!
@blueconcretezebra
@blueconcretezebra 2 місяці тому
6. Not joining the user forum for the distro. In fact, because the forum is so important for a new user, I would say check the user forum before choosing a distro. Are questions being answered at all? If so how helpful are the answers?
@decoydave
@decoydave 2 місяці тому
A little off topic question. Is there a way to repair a USB drive that is not recognized by the computer when plugged in. Not seen in files or disks app but power light is on, on the USB drive.
@othernicksweretaken
@othernicksweretaken Місяць тому
Sometimes such mysteries even happen to seasoned Linux admins like me. I administer mainly headless RHEL servers, most of which are VMs but quite a few which are bare metal cluster nodes. So it happened the other day to me that I had to apply a new security policy post or even mid-install after which I was required to install some firmware RPMs, even though the LACP bonds couldn't yet be activated on behalf of the network switches' side which left me with no network available to carry on. Usually this isn't an issue because the servers' HW also consisted of a so-called iLO ( _instant Lights Off_ ) board which is a kind of service processor that has a NIC of its own over which it can be accessed remotely, even when the server was powered off. The manufacturer's HTML5 webinterface via browser to this iLO has a neat feature to _insert_ an ISO image in a virtual CDROM drive or even let's one simply drag and drop a folder from a file server where you placed said firmware or any RPM packages that you need to install on the still network-wise linkless server. However, because of the ruddy security policy (which I hadn't have time to study carefully in advance) that I was mandated to apply, the iLO's virtual drive feature didn't work anymore because the policy surreptitiously simply had blacklisted the _usb_storage_ driver in a new file /etc/modprobe.d/usb_storage or so (have forgotten its actual name) of which I wasn't aware. The inability to load that driver by deliberately blacklisting it for the sake of system hardening resulted in that dmesg wouldn't hint which device file the kernel would have created for the virtual cd-drive (e.g. sr0) that could be used to mount the ISO image or folder in the server's OS, which left me completely puzzled. To unravel this mystery took me hours, but once you knew the simple trick the security policy had applied it was so blatently obvious.
@rubensrubens3179
@rubensrubens3179 10 днів тому
nice video with useful information.
@Falken78
@Falken78 2 місяці тому
Point 5 really hits home for me. I post this from a Debian 12 workstation because it looks like the days are numbered for my beloved openSUSE Leap. Things change, but not always for the better.
@OraOraOra
@OraOraOra 2 місяці тому
Great video, as always! I like the Shirts, do I also support Debian, if I buy one of yours?
@kolz4ever1980
@kolz4ever1980 2 місяці тому
Number 1 is exactly why I got off of mint and went to fedora a few months after. Sure it's not like I'm buying new hardware every week and infact still on the same PC but I like to have the latest software always for security and features like this reason. I loved using mint when I first got on Linux but yeah.. I wanted more up to date software instead of still being on kernel 5.15 or 5.19.
@echase3rd
@echase3rd 2 місяці тому
Not sure when you did that, but they have the "Edge ISO" that currently has the 6.5 kernel.
@javabeanz8549
@javabeanz8549 2 місяці тому
​@@echase3rdEdge ISO is the way to go. I ran into several things not working with the standard ISO. But everything works great with the Edge ISO. The thing I don't have is the control of the fancy case lights, but not important to me.
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 2 місяці тому
in fact*
@kolz4ever1980
@kolz4ever1980 2 місяці тому
@@echase3rd and I'm still on a newer version kernel with fedora 40 up to 6.8 and prior 6.7.9 for fedora 39. I remember that though but meh.. I don't distro hop anymore since there's no point.
@thomwalks
@thomwalks 2 місяці тому
I remember making the mistake of the wifi problem, I ended up asking the Linux forums for help. The Arch live install had wifi working but when I installed it, it didn't work correctly. Turns out I just needed to follow the wiki (I didn't like reading back then)
@krilledahl8894
@krilledahl8894 2 місяці тому
Hi Jay! Really liked the sudo t-shirt you were wearing, so much that I ordered one 😀 B.t.w I wonder which distro you like the most and which you have as your daily driver? I'm on Arch b.t.w with hyprland and I love it, both on my stationary and laptop. I love the freedom it gives me to customize everything to my needs. All the best and keep up the great work you are doing on your informative channel 🙏
@MikeSimpson1
@MikeSimpson1 Місяць тому
Absolutely killer tips. I live tested Linux Mint on my Macbook 2013 and learned that most things worked. However they are unable to provide a driver for webcam so I am continuing to use Mac OS to dual boot. Other than that issue I'm finding Linux to be speedy and a lot of fun to learn how to use. Not to mention it'll be more secure as Bjg Sur support stopped for my machine in fall of last year. Thank you.
@tmendoza6
@tmendoza6 2 місяці тому
you have some good stuff on the store
@karmicbacklash3763
@karmicbacklash3763 2 місяці тому
Having watched the video I do agree with most of your points, but I feel like point give is a bit lacking as you explain it. Its important to have a daily driver system because everyone wants to get work done at the end of the day, or whatever they want to do, and its good to have a place to put roots down. But the advice to not stick to one, and only one distro has less to do with philosophical disagreements with the maintainers and more to do with the idea that limiting yourself to only one paradigm and in the course of that restricting yourself to what you know, robs you of potential experiences you are missing out on by not experiencing it. Another thing it teaches you what a distro really is. Its just a set of opinionated preferences maintained by a team. You can't point at any one thing and call it a "Ubuntu" or "Fedora" thing because anything you might try can and usually is included elsewhere. Its not the Desktop Enviroment, its not the packaging standard, its not the drivers, or the keyboard shortcuts, its just a set of preferences. So for a TLDR, yes, you shouldn't restrict yourself to one system because doing that will teach you nothing beyond what that system is, and in that situation what you mentioned is dangerous, because if the only thing you know changes, you'll be left with something you don't like. Once you realize that the only thing that's really happening is a difference of opinion, you realize that you don't have to agree with the maintainers as long as what you want can still be done, you stop seeing Distros as their own unique thing and start seeing them as the collections of opinions and preferences they really are.
@JeremyLeik
@JeremyLeik 2 місяці тому
Great video as always. Sadly, live distributions weren't available when I started with Linux in the late 1990's. We have come a long way.
@danielgx83
@danielgx83 2 місяці тому
Hey , do you have a video about dd command and foremost ?
@IronDiggy
@IronDiggy Місяць тому
I made mistake 1/3 - had this issue with my primary computer, brand new 7800xt doesn't work in debian because it runs too old of a kernel. Ended up going with popos in the end.
@therealjammit
@therealjammit Місяць тому
6. If you can either setup a test machine to play with or at least have an easy way to swap out the boot drive so you can practice distro-hopping. I got into Linux by playing around with different distro's on a swapable test hard drive (we didn't have USB thumb drives yet). After I found a favorite I installed it as a dual boot with Windows. Going further I didn't feel like "upgrading" Windows yet again and went full Linux. The present day machines are so fast and have so much RAM and drive space it's a good idea to run Windows in a virtual machine. The bootable live images are probably the best to start playing with (similar to my swapable drive idea). Using Ventoy makes this easier.
@MrLynch-ei4dc
@MrLynch-ei4dc 2 місяці тому
Perfect timing. Thanks for the video. New subbie here.
@amartuvshinbadnainymbuu4674
@amartuvshinbadnainymbuu4674 2 місяці тому
Sorry, I'm writing another topic. What do you think about the incus vm and container manager project? Do you want to take Incus tutorial cource?
@PopsSinging
@PopsSinging 2 місяці тому
On your number three, I still to this day run into issues where I will boot into a live environment and everything works fine, but as soon as I install it on bare metal something doesn't work. A for instance, is with Linux Mint, it goes straight to black screen if using the regular ISO . Now the easiest fix is just to use the edge distro with a later kernel, but I have also just used the recovery mode and updated the kernel manually.
@YannMetalhead
@YannMetalhead 28 днів тому
Good video!
@roshanpereira7650
@roshanpereira7650 2 місяці тому
Could you possibly consider creating a video tutorial on installing Tiny Core Pure64 Linux with the FLWM Topsidewindow manager? Additionally, it would be incredibly helpful if you could demonstrate how to enable an external HDMI monitor within this setup, and perhaps address how to add its menu entry into other operating systems' bootloaders, since os-prober seems unable to detect it. I've encountered some peculiar issues, like booting into a text-based interface despite adding the menu entry. Your assistance with this would be greatly appreciated.
@givingisbetterthantaking..829
@givingisbetterthantaking..829 Місяць тому
In windows 10 (WSL) IS CHANGING the BIOS or UEFI (?) a needed task ?? I am a neophyte w/ Linux?? To Enable V-???
@darrenjosephgregory
@darrenjosephgregory 2 місяці тому
The live mode point it valid, however it's not perfect. For example I have an old Mac mini which works fine in live mode in particular the WiFi. When you install and reboot the WiFi no longer works and you have to plug in a wired connection to download the WiFi driver.
@frecio231
@frecio231 2 місяці тому
make sure you select the option to install the proprietary drivers when installing
@Theborg72
@Theborg72 11 днів тому
Hi, thanks for this. why can't you go into how to check for kernel and how to update it. feels like an area that can be interesting as there are certainly beginner mistakes there as well that can have major consequences
@vincentmaret4308
@vincentmaret4308 9 днів тому
I never use live mode to test the installation but I always have another working computer nearby to search for fix or create another bootable just in case. Once I can access the web to search for fix on the new system, I consider it working.
@SciPunk215
@SciPunk215 2 місяці тому
Very good!
@othernicksweretaken
@othernicksweretaken Місяць тому
Where did you get that _SU_ ⚡ _DO_ Heavy Meddle Shirt?
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 2 місяці тому
I have a question, but first : I've used mint cinnamon 19 in the past on a basic Dell prebuilt pc and it was a good experience. I want to de-microsoft my gaming computer and install a linux distro. I want to be able to utilize Radeon FSR. I was hoping to install LMDE 6, but I don't see a Xfce version of LMDE 6. Can I install Xfce afterward? Would it be more trouble than its worth? Should I just install Debian 12 Xfce instead? note: I am not a 'first adopter' of the newest hardware. I am usually a year or two behind, so I don't think I'd have any hardware compatibility issues with Debian. I've just never used it before so a mint distro seemed like a good candidate for me. Thank you.
@geancanach
@geancanach 2 місяці тому
last time i did it was in LMDE 5, not 6 - but i suspect it hasn't changed since and is pretty simple.. sudo apt install task-xfce-desktop -y sudo reboot
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 2 місяці тому
@@geancanachThank you .
@juliusmilo5959
@juliusmilo5959 2 місяці тому
Very good comrade...Thank You...
@geraldandres2224
@geraldandres2224 Місяць тому
I have two different problems that I need help with. I’ve only been using Linux Mint off and on until I had to switch over last year. I’m using 21.3. I have an older samsung Xpress M2020 printer that I wish to use but LM doesn’t recognize it. I loaded Wine, but I have no idea how to use it to load my printer. Second problem is, I use firefox and vdh for downloading videos etc. Several months ago, for some reason I lost the companion/converter portion and I can’t download videos on yt and a couple of others. I downloaded the new converter and every time I try to install it, it says it’s already installed, yet it doesn’t show up anywhere. Can someone give me some instructions, step by step type. Don’t assume I know anything because I don’t. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks in advance.
@lerkzor
@lerkzor 2 місяці тому
Question about #1 - If the distro you want to use has an older kernel, surely there is a way to upgrade the kernel after you discover the issue? I understand that it will likely involve some time in the terminal performing commands that could nuke your system if typed wrong, but I am assuming that there would be a guide to upgrading kernel in either the manpages or the help system?
@leemanwrong
@leemanwrong 10 днів тому
Yep some distros like Mint or MX offer versions with a newer kernel for those with newer hardware.
@johnps1670
@johnps1670 2 місяці тому
Start with a LTS version or the latest?
@deadlinerhorus
@deadlinerhorus Місяць тому
i came to conclusion, that the biggest frontier is having different package managers like pkcon oder YAST2, apart from apt, the most users are overwhelmed by the different syntax. The ease of use will come after learning by doing, so i agree with you!
@Sman-eg1zs
@Sman-eg1zs Місяць тому
Love the T-shirt!
@moetocafe
@moetocafe 2 місяці тому
while (1) seems to be logical, in practice I haven't run into it. Installed Deb on a brand new laptop - no issues with anything. I've even got 2 firmware bios updates through the Software center.
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 місяці тому
I recommend you tread carefully with any firmware updates you get through Linux mints Update Manager.. That isn't a stabbed against Linux Mint but I recommend you do a Time shift snapshot creation first just in case there is a firmware once in awhile that causes a weird non boot problem or graphical problem I've ran into it myself with my system 5900x cpu Asrock x570 Taichung mobo 7900xtx gpu
@moetocafe
@moetocafe 2 місяці тому
@@motoryzen it was (and still is) on Debian stable, not Mint. No issues at all.
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 місяці тому
@@moetocafe you said you installed Deb... instead of stating lmde. Although very similar overall lmde and raw basic Debian are different operating systems so yes it can matter
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 місяці тому
@@moetocafe regardless it's a good thing if you can update any and all firmwares and not have any issues
@moetocafe
@moetocafe 2 місяці тому
@@motoryzen it is exactly Debian 12 Bookworm - not Mint, not LMDE. I actually never had Mint on my machine (it's not that I don't like it or I think it's "bad" or anything like that, it is just that happened, but I've installed Mint on friends' computers and it is a very good OS).
@EverybodyLinux
@EverybodyLinux Місяць тому
Thanks, i am working to improve the 4th mistake. Regarding using root, i gave up that pretty soon! Also, not taking snapshots in a virtual Machine before a system upgrades
@Henry-sv3wv
@Henry-sv3wv Місяць тому
and if you use docker you have to use root.
@anonymous.youtuber
@anonymous.youtuber 2 місяці тому
Great thumbnail ❤ it !
@user-jp6vm4nt3u
@user-jp6vm4nt3u 2 місяці тому
nice stuf! thanks!
@SunriseSpringWorld
@SunriseSpringWorld 2 місяці тому
Mistake 1 relates with me. I jumped to Linux shortly after the 7900XT(X) release and chose Linux Mint because it was the recommended beginners distro, it was not a good experience. If I didn't decide to try POP_OS later on I wouldn't be using Linux. Currently on NixOS and having a great time :)
@iNoxux
@iNoxux 2 місяці тому
I'm using pop os. It's really very stable than other distros I can say. How's bout nixos?
@SunriseSpringWorld
@SunriseSpringWorld 2 місяці тому
@@iNoxuxPop_OS treated me well too and NixOS has been stable for me even in the unstable channel. Glad to see you're liking Pop_OS :)
@iNoxux
@iNoxux Місяць тому
Potk potk
@knihomoladam
@knihomoladam 2 місяці тому
In Ubuntu live mode there are no all drivers available. These are unpacked only during installation of the system, when the option checked. So Ubuntu live mode is not complete.
@pratttastic89
@pratttastic89 2 місяці тому
I think number 3 is so common because if you're coming from Windows, the Windows installation doesn't have a live mode that lets you test it first. You install it and then figure everything else out. If you're leaving Windows in favor of Linux then you're probably in the auto-pilot mode of "install OS then you can work on making it functional."
@MichaelDustter
@MichaelDustter 2 місяці тому
The thing is, with most desktops/laptops you'll get, you're pretty much assured of functionality on Windows because of the way OEMs design their hardware, contracts that are between MS and them etc., in Linux, in its nature, you just don't have that assured at all times. Laptops suffer from this way more, and with probably exceptions from some Linux specific OEMs like Framework, there are tons of problems with specific peripherals.
@pratttastic89
@pratttastic89 2 місяці тому
@@MichaelDustter that's also a factor. If you're buying pre-built systems, Windows works. If you're sure building your own system, Windows mostly works and you might have to download a few drivers. Not so with Linux, and if you don't know that and you're used to the Windows installation method it's understandable that you would just power through the installation without thinking twice.
@MichaelDustter
@MichaelDustter 2 місяці тому
@@pratttastic89 That's also a thing, even on my originally built rig, I just had this annoying issue in Linux where the whole system would just freeze in a random period of few days. Freeze in a way that peripherals wouldn't react as well, thus no way of getting to a TTY, forcing a hard reset. And even troubleshoots as BIOS updating, or CPU volting wouldn't fix it. Nothing like this on Windows. Linux on real hardware can just have so many strange caveats.
@erica1399
@erica1399 2 місяці тому
And another factor, atleast that I encountered, is Linux fans claiming it is easy and everything just works and making other unreasonable claims they cannot backup, when what they claimed doesn't happen they piss people off who then go on to hate Linux, because they can't get things to work like they did on Windows. In this regard Linux is not for everyone, a simple user, who doesn't know about computers in general and doesn't want to know, who just wants to use it, will not enjoy Linux unless someone else constantly makes everything work for them, who has time for that really, the average user I still advise to just stick to Windows, they know how to do things in there, they can simply install a game or program and it will just work in many cases and if it doesn't often Windows compatibility tool that launches on program fail will select the proper compatibility settings to run most games/programs if told to, it's much simpler for the average user who doesn't know and doesn't care to know how things work or how to get them to work. For good or ill, Linux requires alot more tinkering and knowledge, which is not for everyone, imo Linux is more for enthusiasts, not for the ignorant and uncaring simple user, because not everything will just work on Linux the way it does on Windows, it often requires effort to get some things working, and some (albeit few) things won't work at all, it's not a simple jump from Windows to Linux with everything working the same, you have to change your mindset and be willing to learn how things work on Linux, which is quite a bit different from Windows. Trying to bring people over to Linux under false pretenses, with lies or unreasonable claims, is not going to work ever, the moment people find out things don't just work, and they don't understand how to get things to work, most have a horrible experience and get sick of it, they will hate it, realistic expectations and the truth, that imo works better in possibly convincing people to ditch Windows, because lies/false or exaggerated claims always come out, very fast at that. I had a likewise horrible first experience with Linux, during Covid I was visiting friends and got stuck there, as I didn't have my pc and was going to be stuck there for a long time, I ordered a laptop, those friends are big time Linux fans, imo for the wrong reason, just because it's free, anyway, they without asking me anything installed Linux on that laptop, deleting the Windows partition in the process, before I could even touch my laptop, they told me it was fine, that all my steam games would just work, that I could do anything I did on Windows no problem, well, I couldn't, I could barely get anything to work, and ofcourse they wouldn't help me, after a week of messing about and partially breaking the OS, I was completely fed up with Linux, ordered a cheap Windows 10 key and installed that on it instead, where everything did just work. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Linux now, and if Microsoft keeps making it worse, if they continue to take more ownership of your hardware and files away from you with forced AI garbage and crap, I might eventually change to Linux, but then understanding how to do things, understanding the limitations, the differences, whilst knowing the facts, not being told lies and false claims. Linux is a very different beast vs Windows, and claiming it isn't is not fair to Linux as an OS, and not fair to Windows users who get pushed to try Linux under these false pretenses.
@MichaelDustter
@MichaelDustter 2 місяці тому
@@erica1399Absolutely well said on how I feel it. The toxicity of fanboys is the absolute worst part. Because I love Linux as a thing, it's such an ambitious project that has evolved throughout the years for sure. But the notion that it's the "perfection" and how "everything will just work as the same as on different OSes" is just...I don't even have words for that at this point on how many times I still keep encountering this mentality ever since I first delved into Linux in 2015. And in this regard, unfortunately, with exceptions, it's not diving down. And that's just not a good attitude. LLTV here, meaning this channel, made an absolute spot on video on toxicity in these communities. And it's the best way to approach and that's how we can thrive on bringing more people in, and be constructive about the problems.
@juanmanuelgomez1821
@juanmanuelgomez1821 2 місяці тому
Love your shirt, where did you get it?
@txreal2
@txreal2 2 місяці тому
As a Linux beginner should I learn it in WSL2, dual boot with Windows 10, or VM? Thanks 🙏
@hiru92
@hiru92 2 місяці тому
vm is good first, you will used to of it , then install it, if you on nvidia, never forget to install gpu drivers.
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 2 місяці тому
I dual-booted because it forced me to not go back to Windows whenever anything unfamiliar happened. If I really needed to use Windows, I could simply reboot. You can use WSL or VM. Just know that they aren't perfect emulations of using either and some things just work differently with a native GNU/Linux install (like booting or internet connections).
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 місяці тому
First off don't dual boot Windows and Linux from the same physical drive. It presents so many possibilities of rabbit hole complications that you might end up losing your sanity as well as your data Install whatever Linux operating system you want into a separate SSD while the windows Drive is disconnected but first before anything ensure that inside your UEFI bios that secure Boot and fast start or fast startup are all disabled all they do is serve to lock down the hardware not allowing Linux to make use of it. Those two pointless so-called features do not do what they are advertised to do
@mariojpalomares2514
@mariojpalomares2514 2 місяці тому
What if your only one distribution is now on mint 22 using kernel 6.8? (Yes, you read that right lol) I modified mint and created a custom live iso out of it. Switching it to the newest upcoming Wilma/Noble Numbat repo without ever waiting for the official mint 22 release. This puts me on a unreleased testing version which i been naming my iso's with (Alpha) and, even converted my main system to testing version as my daily driver. Its like seeing the code unfolding behind the scenes. Most are probably wondering why would do something like this you ask? Quite simple actually. I don't think i could go another round being on 22.04 base (Jammy repo) anymore. Those packages are simply too outdated for 2024. It was either this or time for a new distro. Now i get to enjoy (early release) of the newest packages and kernels! (although some breakage a long the way but manage to fix lol) while staying current on the Noble Numbat (upcoming 24.04 release sometime in May or June.. But i am not waiting lol) Plus its fun and that makes me happy.
@orvilleclisby6748
@orvilleclisby6748 2 місяці тому
I would say out of all the mainstream distributions, probably Ubuntu, Linux Mint and Zorin OS are probably the easiest to install and use out of the box with minimal need for the terminal. This is of course providing you are able to configure the BIOS settings for your computer which seem to vary depending on your hardware. I bought a new Thinkpad recently and couldn't even enter the BIOS from a cold start no matter what key or keys I pressed. I ended up having to return it.
@maurolimaok
@maurolimaok Місяць тому
I tried to use PopOS along with Windows, but it does not allow it. I couldn´t find the solution to that. Today I use Debian for my Odin studies.
@darylnd
@darylnd 6 днів тому
0.5 "Confusing "and" with "an" ("Using and [sic] older kernel").
@jatodd3746
@jatodd3746 2 місяці тому
GREAT T-shirt!
@maladamedialabs4214
@maladamedialabs4214 Місяць тому
6. Try out Linux on a beater machine first - not your daily driver. This will give the feel for Linux and you can experiment with different distros.
@user-wr5qi2sp3x
@user-wr5qi2sp3x 2 місяці тому
The reason that I go to directly installing rather then use the live iso is because I usually use cheap USB's to install and the are so slow that testing from it is all but impossible and you can always just install something else if it doesn't work
@Ronald-gu3ft
@Ronald-gu3ft Місяць тому
Wi-fi worked perfectly running mint from a USB stick and the function vanished when I installed it. It seems that not all the drivers on the External boot system get loaded to the main drive for some reason. Probably to stop bloat, something Linux users get paranoid about.
@marie-noellebaechler1433
@marie-noellebaechler1433 2 місяці тому
Thank you very much for this video. An additional serious mistake could be "installing Linux on an essential machine without enough preparation and without professional support"
@ThePersianYT
@ThePersianYT 2 місяці тому
Number 1 is the one thing I used to do all the time. Install Mint 21.1, kernel 5.15 on a 10th Gen i7, oooohhh lord, it used to freeze completely, to the point I had to force restart.
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 місяці тому
sudo apt install linux-oem-22.04d -y will get you kernel 6.5
@leemanwrong
@leemanwrong 10 днів тому
Mint has an edge version which has a newer kernel.
@ronm6585
@ronm6585 2 місяці тому
Thank you.
@avidwriter2882
@avidwriter2882 2 місяці тому
So it is not possible to update a kernal past the distro version?
@stuartnorman8713
@stuartnorman8713 2 місяці тому
You can always update a kernel.
@MichaelDustter
@MichaelDustter 2 місяці тому
Depends on your distro. If you do wanna focus on latest kernels though, stuff like Fedora or Arch would be advised. You can technically do it through Mainline in Ubuntu-based ones, but I didn't have good experiences with that.
@CesarAugustoRL
@CesarAugustoRL Місяць тому
It is always possible to download and recompile the kernel, but I wouldn't advice this if you are not an advance user. The easiest way may be to pick a distro like Pop_OS, Linux Mint or Fedora, if you are new to linux.
@knightone57
@knightone57 2 місяці тому
Older Macbook pro on Linux Mint live wifi drivers install from usb, after the install on machine you need ethernet to get the driver to work again
@seanfaherty
@seanfaherty 2 місяці тому
Or a wifi dongle.
@knightone57
@knightone57 2 місяці тому
@@seanfahertyWell that too,but why don't the drivers carry over?
@seanfaherty
@seanfaherty 2 місяці тому
"ours is not to wonder why..." I don't know but if we can make it work I'll check the man pages when I can't . Story of my life @@knightone57
@seanfaherty
@seanfaherty Місяць тому
that is above my pay grade @@knightone57
@awwtergirl7040
@awwtergirl7040 2 місяці тому
sed and awk are two commands I need to delve into more often.
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 місяці тому
I haven't any experience with awk yet but the said involved commands are mainly meant to remove or replace text info within a single file rename command is meant to change name of one or multiple files
@masterm-cw7go
@masterm-cw7go 2 місяці тому
It was in past that something work in live but not after installing.
@IKEARiot
@IKEARiot 2 місяці тому
If you are demo'ing a Linux distro on a Bitlockered PC or Laptop - keep your recovery key handy.
@bitemykrank1970
@bitemykrank1970 2 місяці тому
If I'm honest, I have probably made all five of these errors many times over....but having a second PC is simply the perfect solution. I can brick my install and still have a working machine to look up what I did wrong and try to either fix it or simply re-install and try again. Makes it very easy when I want to try an Arch system, as I mainly use debian based distro's, and Arch is art in and of itself... Second point I would mention, is the idea of the LIVE testing isn't always a good judge. I run Xubuntu XFCE mostly as I like it's LOW system resource requirements, but I have used it live on various machines and everything works as it should, but after I install it, usually the video card won't work correctly and sound in some machines can also be an issue. Just because it works on the live medium, doesn't always mean it works on real hardware. This is the MAIN reason I find myself always failing back to Windows. Linux is nice to play with, but isn't for daily use unless you FULLY understand how the base system works in my opinion. It takes some time, but it can be a fun thing to play with and every install I do gets better than the last attempt.
@MichaelDustter
@MichaelDustter 2 місяці тому
Honestly also thinking it doing it like this. I have an older spare rig to do such with. Because I also feel Linux is so good to mess around with, but for what I need for my productivity, gaming and such, it's just still not there yet. Too many deep rabbitholes to go through.
@javabeanz8549
@javabeanz8549 2 місяці тому
Huh, I find Linux much more stable and I can get my work done with it. My experience with Windows is that I usually have to fix it before I can get anything done. I have tried more recent versions of Windows, but the longest that I have been able to use it was four days, before I wiped the drive and installed Linux Mint.
@ali0ghanem
@ali0ghanem 2 місяці тому
Plz We want an episode about Nat and port forword in linux Always broken after reboot server❤❤
@johndoh5182
@johndoh5182 2 місяці тому
3. Doesn't apply to new systems. You aren't wiping something out to begin with so test away with 2 - 3 distros blowing each away until you find what you like.
@David-vd6zd
@David-vd6zd 2 місяці тому
and remember to add your user to sudo group. and sometimes apt install sudo,
@glowinthedark9082
@glowinthedark9082 13 днів тому
When I first tried Mint, my keyboard wasn't detected in the live environment. I plugged in my external keyboard. Later I switched to Fedora
@pjcpspn670
@pjcpspn670 2 місяці тому
My first 2 weeks into Linux being a new user lol was stuck on nano for 4hrs trying to increase my swapfile after the command /etc/fstab lol and reinstalled the OS then apt remove vim-tiny and apt installed vim since then vim is my fav to save and exit. Right around a month now hahaha.
@MichaelDustter
@MichaelDustter 2 місяці тому
I've honestly fallen into Micro and can't get enough of it ever since. Not so complicated, it has sensible shortcuts out of the box unlike Nano, and a big, but VERY BIG thing for me - it can natively save as sudo. That saves me so much trouble whether I need to configure something that's in / or just needs those privileges.
@hiru92
@hiru92 2 місяці тому
try nvchad for neovim
@jampskan5690
@jampskan5690 2 місяці тому
I wish I understood how linux does COM ports. I deal with a lot of USB serial devices, and I just don't understand. Also, I need to understand best practices for installing software, and all of the details that doing so entails. I feel like I'm going to break everything anytime I install something new, or that I will put stuff in the wrong place and have it cause issues later on. idk. I am learning... slowly.
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 2 місяці тому
I didn't use COM a lot in Windows, but I think you're looking for the /dev folder. /dev/disk/by-label (at least in my distro) will list drives by their name. /dev/sr0 is the default optical disc drive (CD/DVD/BD). /dev/sda is the first HDD/SSD (partitions are defined by numbers, like sda0, sda1), then sdb, sdc, etc. Not sure about the other peripherals, but they should all show up in /dev on Debian-based systems. First step for installing programs would be to update your repo (sudo apt update) and then install (sudo apt install ) via the terminal (not all distros use apt). You can also use a GUI software center, too, if your distro comes with one. Installing should automatically install the required software dependencies (like Windows' DLLs) as well. Usually software dependencies only break when the OS itself is updated to a new version. The likely fix is to uninstall the program completely and install the new version. I recommend backing up your files/home dir before updating your OS.
@maverickmace9100
@maverickmace9100 2 місяці тому
I fcuking love that shirt!!
@flibber123
@flibber123 Місяць тому
Long time linux users tend to be very informed about the workings of their computers but most people aren't. If you tell someone "Make sure to test it first because it might not work with your computer" that's like telling them to stay away from linux. I think that's why linux isn't more popular. No matter how user friendly anyone tries to make it seem to be, ultimately people are always told about how much tinkering around is required with it just to get basic functionality established.
@ivomagalhaes1
@ivomagalhaes1 2 місяці тому
How to install live Linux with "Slackware, Arch, Gentoo, LFS" ?
@archie-127
@archie-127 2 місяці тому
I love your t-shirt :D
@CharlieMartorelli
@CharlieMartorelli 2 місяці тому
Not a new user but I never thought of number 1.
@BitsOfTruth
@BitsOfTruth 2 місяці тому
I do not know what video software you use as you are very loud, (and no mic in front of your face) I needed to turn you down. I do not get that from OBS. Btw thanks for your work. You help to get me started over a year ago dual booting Windows 10 and Linux Mint. Now I am for the most part Windiws free way ahead of the October 2025 goal. Thanks.
@stacygirard647
@stacygirard647 11 днів тому
I'm improving my linux learning. I have a proxmox server ans I have several server under Linux ok yes I don't know every thing And if Ineed to do something I search about like one of my Linux is my private cloud another . I do have issues to learn other distro but at least the basic of it I use Ubuntu based. Distro cause I'm more confortable to do the command like but when I'll change my ssd drive for a 2 tera 1 will be windows and I'm planning on. Trying to have a fedora ans a mint Linux. In it plus maybe a 3rd distro on my external drive. So I'll use 3 distro Or even 2 on my external drive since I'll be able to put my 500 go that I have in my ssd encasing for an external drive instead of 250 gig But at least I'm trying to learn more like about 1 years ago I didn't knew anything about container ( dockers) now I know a few basic comment like pull or ps to know wish cohntaner is running ect
@outlandish912
@outlandish912 2 місяці тому
Even if everything works during a live test, that doesn't necessarily mean that everything will work when the install is done.
@cqwickedwake7651
@cqwickedwake7651 Місяць тому
Pro tip: always use containers and/or VMs for testing if you are not sure if you might F up everything. 3:33 i mean using root is same as being a local admin in windows so yeah... Using sudo is just executing things as admin or in the name of admin, so you might as well just use root so you dont have to say sudo every damn time. Lets just assume that you know what you are doing on your system and using sudo on another user and being a root and Fing up is the same thing no matter what method you used xĐ
@joeblow8593
@joeblow8593 2 місяці тому
Thanks
@patrickprucha5522
@patrickprucha5522 2 місяці тому
agreed on checking out different distro. For me it was the case. But for me, in the end, i chose one and one only, Its Debian 12 KDE Of Course! I think it helped Debian to use the latest KDE, and version 5.27 was a gold standard in the end. Now actually, i compare other operating systems with Debian 12 KDE 5.27. For me now, there is no reason to install Neon which has Debian 12 and KDE 6. I have seen KDE 6 and from what i saw, i am still very happy with 5.27. As i said 5.27 made itself into a "gold standard" in my eyes. I hope Debian is working with KDE 6 to see how to incorporate it into Debian 13. I'm looking forward to the next iteration of Debian. cheers
@DCM777.
@DCM777. 2 місяці тому
Plasma 6 works fine now and Neon is build on Ubuntu not Debian 12
@patrickprucha5522
@patrickprucha5522 2 місяці тому
If i check Distrowatch, it shows Debian and Ubuntu. But Ubuntu is based on Debian. I know Ubuntu has added things that may not be found on Debian, but the core is Debian.
@DCM777.
@DCM777. 2 місяці тому
@@patrickprucha5522 I know and i said 12 and Ubuntu done so much it's considered not Debian anymore but only uses apt and .deb.
@repairstudio4940
@repairstudio4940 2 місяці тому
Where can get that T-shirt? 😂🎉
@MoonlightFox
@MoonlightFox 2 місяці тому
My first mistake, was thinking that I could use the same commands to get my WiFi working on the main install, as I did during installation. off to do some research..wish me luck.
@seanfaherty
@seanfaherty 2 місяці тому
My guess is you need the drivers. Ethernet or a borrowed wifi dongle will usually work.
@Henry-sv3wv
@Henry-sv3wv Місяць тому
commands are just programs that you need to install if they are not there ... (some commands are build into the shell but most are just cli applications)
@erintyres3609
@erintyres3609 Місяць тому
Setting up dual boot can be a real pain, and it used to be even worse. I have a lot of sympathy for anyone who is trying to safely get Linux running without destroying the Windows partition or corrupting that all important boot block. And if you ever try to edit the grub file yourself, fuggetaboutit you are doomed! For extra chaos, try putting multiple Linux distros on the same drive. It's like making a really tall stack of dominoes; you are sure to see it all collapse many times before you either quit or achieve what you want.
@logicbug
@logicbug 2 місяці тому
So I hope we will soon see a video like "Sed for beginners" .... Just one look at the man page made me close the terminal... 🙂
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 місяці тому
The sed command is mainly meant to replace or remove text inside of a single file 3:36
@Henry-sv3wv
@Henry-sv3wv Місяць тому
@@motoryzenwith regular expressions and there are diffent styles/flavors to make it a nice guessing game which program uses which "reg exp language flavor".
@motoryzen
@motoryzen Місяць тому
@@Henry-sv3wv Yeah..maybe you're correct, but it makes more sense to use " sed " command to do what I already explain and the " rename" command also for file in *.mp4; do mv "$file" "${file:2}";done will remove the " .mp4 from any file name at the end of it in Linux Debian based distros
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