64-bit Snapdragon Development Kit for Windows - A New Era for Arm based PCs

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Gary Explains

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Qualcomm and Microsoft have launched a new Snapdragon PC aimed at developers who want to test, profile, and debug their apps on Windows 10 and Windows 11 for Snapdragon.
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@Evolution__X
@Evolution__X 2 роки тому
I am just excited for efficiency that Arm-based processor delivers.
@Evolution__X
@Evolution__X 2 роки тому
If some how Qualcomm manages to deliver the efficiency and performance like M1 processor. It will be really tough for Intel.
@Matteuccishane
@Matteuccishane 2 роки тому
I think Qualcomm can do it but the problem is Microsoft
@PixelPulseEdits
@PixelPulseEdits 2 роки тому
@@Matteuccishane what about it ?
@Matteuccishane
@Matteuccishane 2 роки тому
@@PixelPulseEdits about what ?
@LokiScarletWasHere
@LokiScarletWasHere 2 роки тому
@@PixelPulseEdits Microsoft is shite for performance. Plain and simple. You could have the most badass system and it'll run like shit once Windows is on it.
@kilrain_dev
@kilrain_dev 2 роки тому
@@LokiScarletWasHere windows runs amazing on m1, even through parallels. Can't imagine how awesome it will be once it runs native.
@soragranda
@soragranda 2 роки тому
Finally!, This is the type of stuff that will help android apps integration to windows ARM! Also, this will help more professional apps to work on ARM devices!
@MichaelMantion
@MichaelMantion 2 роки тому
integrating INTO windows is NOT GOOD. LOL we need people to move away from windows to FOSS. Windows on a building good, Windows on a computer BAD
@soragranda
@soragranda 2 роки тому
@@MichaelMantion Meh, moving from windows at this point is just delusional... Porting apps to windows ARM might help the port for other ARM OS, which is what the market need, after that we can begin to think about moving away from windows.
@circuit10
@circuit10 2 роки тому
@@soragranda Whereas the advantages include that it's faster (less bloat), a better shell, it's free and open-source and just overall better
@trparky
@trparky 2 роки тому
@@circuit10 Buzzwords that only geeks care about. Regular everyday users couldn't give a crap about any of that kind of stuff, they just want their computer to work and so far, that's what Microsoft is doing. Meanwhile, for how long have people been saying "this is the year of the Linux desktop"? Yeah, people keep saying that but it never happens.
@circuit10
@circuit10 2 роки тому
@@trparky Oh, my first comment didn’t send it seems
@markhaus
@markhaus 2 роки тому
I just hope we get Linux running on it. At this rate I wonder if RISCV won’t beat ARM in desktop/mobile Linux. Arm SoC manufacturers are famously opaque about releasing information about their devices making developing stuff in Linux for them is infuriating and often not worth the effort
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 роки тому
Well that is simply not true. The only OS you can guarantee that will run in an Arm CPU is Linux. Linaro exists for specifically that reason.
@miguelagueda3928
@miguelagueda3928 2 роки тому
It's not like RISCV is going to save you from that. There's nothing stopping manufacturers from being just as opaque, the only difference being, they won't be paying licensing to use the ISA
@AndreVanKammen
@AndreVanKammen 2 роки тому
@@GaryExplains I think he means getting all the drivers to work for all the Qualcomm hardware in this box.
@drbytes68
@drbytes68 2 роки тому
@@AndreVanKammen : Idd, its the drivers, ofcourse you can compile the kernel to run on arm, it'll run on just about anything. It's these stupid binary blobs that you need to faff with to get full functionality.
@ristekostadinov2820
@ristekostadinov2820 2 роки тому
Linxu works on Raspberry Pi which have ARM based CPU
@miguelagueda3928
@miguelagueda3928 2 роки тому
I'll love to see a follow up video with some of the benchmark results against other SBCs. Maybe you could try to run some Phoronix Benchmark Suite to get a broad comparison of the results?
@zerifeak7251
@zerifeak7251 2 роки тому
Paylaşım için teşekkürler ❤️👍🏻
@N....
@N.... 2 роки тому
I got one of these myself but it just errors out when I try to click the buy button to upgrade it from Home to Pro, tried in both Windows 10 and Windows 11. It also apparently doesn't have hardware virtualization support, meaning that developers can't test ARM virtual machine software on it. This also means you can only run WSL1 and not WSL2. Seems like a pretty glaring omission given the price point...
@lbgguy
@lbgguy Рік тому
Hi, did you get it working now? I am asking since 1. surface pro x works fine with hyper-v and WSL2; 2. the snapdragon 7c does support hyper-v.
@NoName-bg2om
@NoName-bg2om 2 роки тому
"No hidden surprises" he says. Yeah right!! a bundled power supply in the package is pretty much a hidden surprise these days.
@MichaelAstrom
@MichaelAstrom 2 роки тому
Wow this is a game changer! Thank you for sharing!
@MarkDavidMcCoskey
@MarkDavidMcCoskey 2 роки тому
Cool device. Tempted to get one of these as a Desktop Replacement. Wipe Windows and install Linux. Small, very-low TDP, the price is right/reasonable. Is the eMMC upgradable?
@lopezd-rd7wm
@lopezd-rd7wm 2 роки тому
Yeah would be a great project.
@MarkDavidMcCoskey
@MarkDavidMcCoskey 2 роки тому
@@lopezd-rd7wm Just ordered one. What the hell.
@lopezd-rd7wm
@lopezd-rd7wm 2 роки тому
@@MarkDavidMcCoskey awesome! Dont forget to order mine 🤣 You decide on a distro?
@Buddharta
@Buddharta 2 роки тому
Very based.
@munocat
@munocat 2 роки тому
Thinking the same, but for BSD
@ashishpatel350
@ashishpatel350 2 роки тому
one of the main reasons qcom went with the 7c instead of a more powerful processor is because it forces devs to optimize their software to work on lower end chips.
@sgodsellify
@sgodsellify 2 роки тому
Price is a big factor as well. Its only $219.
@riteshgarg
@riteshgarg 2 роки тому
Qualcomm is emerging as a beast. Waiting for the M1-like processor that they promised to release next year.
@donghyunshin21
@donghyunshin21 2 роки тому
-------No Apple Fanboys Please-------
@twelvetican
@twelvetican 2 роки тому
Hyped for it too
@fmax30000
@fmax30000 2 роки тому
Yeah, next year when M2 and M1Max quad is released! When M1 will still beat the $hit out of any ARM M1 wannabe, because you know, talk is cheap. Just like Intel Alder lake. If only media and announcements were a true thing! Fingers crossed for a sleeping so called competition to wake up! Later better than never!
@shresthsonkar9207
@shresthsonkar9207 2 роки тому
Honestly at this point, it’s high time they did. A phone has limitations. A laptop and desktop have far less. If Qualcomm can match or beat apple, it’s here or never - of course the downside would be battery life (if the SD888 with Cortex X1 is anything to go by for battery life and heating) but it would be a statement in itself to have an ARM chip match apple.
@farthurf.5221
@farthurf.5221 2 роки тому
Yep Im still waiting Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 to competitive M1 first gen
@1MarkKeller
@1MarkKeller 2 роки тому
*GARY!!!* *Good morning Professor!* *Good morning fellow classmates!* Stay safe out there everyone!
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 роки тому
MARK!!!
@rajan904
@rajan904 2 роки тому
Hi Gary, At 6:20 you mention there is a way to install Visual Studio on the dev kit. I tried installing it on another WoS device, but Visual Studio installer gives an error that says 32Bit and ARM devices are not supported. Seems like Visual Studio cannot be installed on the dev kit. 7cX platform is anyway not the most powerful and dev kit is mostly for profiling and testing but did you get a chance to try it out?
@Me-tuber
@Me-tuber 2 роки тому
Nice video Gary thanks
@soucouyant
@soucouyant 2 роки тому
Awesome video, awesome news. Thanks a million.
@crosero
@crosero 2 роки тому
Your tone here seems very different/much less critical than the one you had on the other video about this dev kit…did the sponsorship condition you on what you could share/discuss?
@FerKauffman
@FerKauffman 2 роки тому
It certainly did change Windows name to “Windows for Snapdragon”.
@Bianchi77
@Bianchi77 2 роки тому
Nice video, keep it up, thank you :)
@mannkeithc
@mannkeithc 2 роки тому
A Windows PC development kit with a new PC grade ARM processor from Qualcomm's Nuvia acquisition that could potentially compete with Apple's M1 processor would be much more exciting!
@tauheedulali2652
@tauheedulali2652 Рік тому
@garyexplains Is there a comparison of Microsoft's Project Volterra Dev Kit vs Qualcomm's Snapdragon Dev Kit coming up?
@JuanGarcia-lh1gv
@JuanGarcia-lh1gv 2 роки тому
Sounds great, but is that HDMI port 2.0? 4k HDR capability would be nice.
@Sylvan_dB
@Sylvan_dB 2 роки тому
Windows used to be on 4 platforms (MIPS, PowerPC, Alpha, x86). Nice to see it going cross-platform again. I've wanted a powerful ARM computer for a long time. I purchased an M1 Mac last year. I'd still like workstation class ARM system running Linux.
@lumpython5351
@lumpython5351 2 роки тому
4G RAM and 64G eMMC for development? Isn't RISC processor theoretically consumes more RAM than CISC processor? Windows 11 itself literally eats almost 4G.
@graealex
@graealex 2 роки тому
4GB is fine to test drive a single application, but all the stuff he showed, like installing VS Code or the Ubuntu subsystem is completely out of the question.
@lumpython5351
@lumpython5351 2 роки тому
@@graealex that's what I thought too, and eMMC for the storage? It just doesn't make any sense, I thought development kit is meant to facilitate developers not testing patience right?
@graealex
@graealex 2 роки тому
@@lumpython5351 Twice the RAM and SSD as mSATA or better NVMe, and this might have been interesting, although the CPU isn't anywhere near an M1 - so this dev kit as a desktop replacement was out of the question anyway.
@TheStopwatchGod
@TheStopwatchGod 2 роки тому
It uses 2.5GB on my system
@graealex
@graealex 2 роки тому
The big problem is that any swapping will depend on that puny little eMMC disk. Developing on a machine with 16GB can already get quite slow. This clearly is just for running your app, and then running your debugger on your workstation and connecting via network to it.
@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548
@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548 2 роки тому
I already publish my app as a 64 bit ARM binary for Linux. It basically needs libc, an X server and fonts. Does this mean that if a customer buys an ARM Windows device that they can already run it using Linux for Windows subsystem?
@gmailaaaa
@gmailaaaa 2 роки тому
I once tried to compile my UWP application on ARM emulator in Visual Studio and it crashed. This device may provide a better solution.
@MarkDavidMcCoskey
@MarkDavidMcCoskey 2 роки тому
ORDERED ONE!!!
@pra.cent20
@pra.cent20 2 роки тому
How does this compare with Raspberry Pi 4B performance wise? Can i clean install Linux on this?
@HeadsetHistorian
@HeadsetHistorian 2 роки тому
Would this be viable for a standalone VR HMD? Like the XR2
@pixelfairy
@pixelfairy 2 роки тому
If that HDMI port is 2.1, (8k 120hz) then it might be. Not saying you need all that. But HDMI 2.0 is limited to 4k / 60hz, which is uncomfortable for some users. Don't know if the gpu (apu) can keep with all that.
@SCIENindustries
@SCIENindustries 2 роки тому
In general is it usable in some small efficient projects too?
@deldia
@deldia 2 роки тому
Surely. He says it could be used as a modest desktop replacement.
@esra_erimez
@esra_erimez 2 роки тому
Is 4GB RAM enough? Most JetBrains IDEs will use that up alone.
@winstonalf
@winstonalf 2 роки тому
In arm platform apps consume significantly less RAM. So it should be ok
@graealex
@graealex 2 роки тому
No, it's not even close to enough. Not sure why people think that ARM64 would significantly consume less than x64 code. Heck, most modern Android smartphones come with more RAM.
@nevzataydin1
@nevzataydin1 2 роки тому
@@graealex because people are looking 'one lightweight app at a time' mobiles, and thinking arm consume less ram. But in reality, the reason of x86 platform becoming popular in computers was high ram need of arm like platforms
@graealex
@graealex 2 роки тому
@@nevzataydin1 Well, RISC code is less dense than CISC, although there are ways like compressed instructions to reduce that, but from my experience, that is not the majority of RAM usage anyway, so I don't see how the instruction set is going to be something that either significantly increases or decreases the memory usage of a modern (desktop) OS.
@lgude
@lgude 2 роки тому
This seems to me the way forward for Windows given the disruption to X86 by the M1, not negative M1 ads or UKposts calling this or that Intel of AMD processor as the 'new M1 killer'. MS may have been caught flatfooted by Apple, but you show there is plenty of potential to move to Arm efficiently. Well done.!
@vineetkumarbharti2633
@vineetkumarbharti2633 2 роки тому
Hey Garry! Can ARM CPU be overclocked by liquid nitrogen as the x86 does? And hit clock speeds of almost double? And still remains under 100 watts.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 роки тому
Any processor can be overclocked. I have a video on overclocking a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W.
@johndripper
@johndripper 2 роки тому
where to buy it, Mr Gary?
@gabboman92
@gabboman92 2 роки тому
Gary! this might sound strange, but could yo please try the fallout new vegas game? long story short but its related to bug in a w11 vm on the M1 macs.
@tomswan3401
@tomswan3401 2 роки тому
8:09 As far as i see that liva mini box costs around 220usd. And it says ‘’this product is meant for developers, not consumers”.
@starkfuture1057
@starkfuture1057 2 роки тому
It’d make a great home server for people like me. Not media server or Plex server, but regular media server as long as the IO is not crippled like in most SBCs.
@bobbyroberts2566
@bobbyroberts2566 2 роки тому
Qualcom should also consider nano pc(pc stick) and mini pc (pc box) with their performance arm chips to test out their performance
@AbhinavKumar-kz1is
@AbhinavKumar-kz1is 2 роки тому
Product is only available in USA right now. When it is coming to India?any idea
@shashankakotha6928
@shashankakotha6928 2 роки тому
Is it possible to switch from eMMC to SSD?
@dado112233
@dado112233 2 роки тому
can the os be reinstalled to linux for arm?
@benjaminotten
@benjaminotten 2 роки тому
Hopefully ETA Prime can get one of these and make a video on it.
@mkubat989
@mkubat989 2 роки тому
Super 👍
@tauheedulali2652
@tauheedulali2652 Рік тому
Qualcomm should release another version of this Development Kit that includes the newest generation of 8Cx Gen 3 processor and a minimum of 8GB RAM. The newer processor handles Windows 11 on ARM and improved emulation of x86 applications. There should be two options offered, a premium option for Developers that require faster performance and local Development on the Mini PC with Visual Studio 2022 for ARM. The cheaper version could be offered for Developers that only need it for Remote Debugging.
@Terrorpixels
@Terrorpixels 2 роки тому
Looks boss.
@Pujastanto
@Pujastanto 2 роки тому
When Intel nowadays using efficiency cores, actually snapdragon has been using it for ages. Snapdragons and other phone processor is way ahead of intel or amd in term of efficiency and heat dissipation
@Shadowed007
@Shadowed007 2 роки тому
How hard is it to recompile X86 games to ARM?
@ismail-sg1oc
@ismail-sg1oc 2 роки тому
Very good
@vincentfernandez7328
@vincentfernandez7328 2 роки тому
you can install a linux and then in a virtual machine your windows there in its box under control.
@MichaelJohnson-nm2lz
@MichaelJohnson-nm2lz 2 роки тому
I tried to buy one from but Microsoft wouldn’t ship it “overseas” to Canada. Any ideas
@meryemxx6354
@meryemxx6354 2 роки тому
Çok daha iyi ve profesyoneli👍
@whothefoxcares
@whothefoxcares 2 роки тому
Will the consumer version have 10/100GB ethernet instead of 10/100MB? Will consumers be able to repair and upgrade whatever they're sold?
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 роки тому
What do you mean by "consumer" version?
@MichaelMantion
@MichaelMantion 2 роки тому
100GB Ethernet? Sure you can do it with the right hardware, but WHY would you care? 1GB is more then enough for most "consumer". I assume you mean residential or non-enterprise.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 роки тому
I assume @Michael Mantion that 100GB was a typo and Karen meant 10/100/1000MB.
@skatcat743
@skatcat743 2 роки тому
very happy you are saying windows on qualcomm windows on arm is a figment of imagination.
@haribaskarkalyanasundaram873
@haribaskarkalyanasundaram873 2 роки тому
I see Gary compiling go code 😍😍😍, can we expect an upcoming video on golang?
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 роки тому
I have often thought about doing a video on golang, but the truth is that my programming videos aren't that popular.
@MichaelMantion
@MichaelMantion 2 роки тому
Looks interesting for "development", but for the price you can get a decent tablet or laptop that is arm based, ha the same power and a screen, touch pad, keyboard and battery. I love arm but this isn't that much more powerful then other stuff out there.
@peterpayne2219
@peterpayne2219 2 роки тому
I'm a developer of visual novels from Japan, some of which are 10-20 years old and impossible to update to a more modern architecture. I'm terrified this change will split the "Wintel" world in two and cause a zillion problems for my customers.
@blackoutgo2597
@blackoutgo2597 2 роки тому
Some piece of software like rosetta 2 for m1 macs, will probably show up to fix this
@melihcankip2743
@melihcankip2743 2 роки тому
Wow nice video
@ankushkushal8310
@ankushkushal8310 2 роки тому
Finally!!!!!!
@sadasd6846
@sadasd6846 2 роки тому
Why they not use 7c gen 2nd.
@mannkeithc
@mannkeithc Рік тому
Are you going to get a Microsoft Dev Kit 2023? Better ARM processor than the Qualcomm dev kit, plus 32 GB Byte RAM and upgradeable NVMe storage. Looks remarkable good value, especially when you compare with an Intel NUC! OK not quite the same levels of performance with latest Intel processor generation, but close match for 10th gen Intel i5 processor.
@dansolodan
@dansolodan 2 роки тому
How does it compare to M1? Qualcomm SoCs in phones aren't very good, so I don't have high hopes for their CPUs intended for mini desktops or laptops, either...
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 роки тому
The Snapdragon 7c isn't the top of the range. You might be interested in my Qualcomm M1 killer video.
@aliorhan2126
@aliorhan2126 2 роки тому
Good video
@NuruddinZainal
@NuruddinZainal 2 роки тому
Love your videos. Could you benchmark Minecraft there? Thanks
@onderoguz2344
@onderoguz2344 2 роки тому
Nice
@jadhal9280
@jadhal9280 2 роки тому
Sir we want ARM BASED 64 bit processor Which can handle windows 10 os And with gpu inbuild And it will be a new Era this Era already started. Which less cost as a mini pc .
@beyzaball6713
@beyzaball6713 2 роки тому
Verygood
@ayisg1833
@ayisg1833 2 роки тому
👌🏻✌🏻
@AaronFigFront
@AaronFigFront 2 роки тому
Allowing windows arm to run on Mac would be the best. Microsoft!
@combatepistemologist8382
@combatepistemologist8382 2 роки тому
I'd settle for Visual Studio 2022 running on the Mac m1. /s
@willgilliam9053
@willgilliam9053 2 роки тому
Will it run Linux?
@FerKauffman
@FerKauffman 2 роки тому
Let’s have a drinking game for everytime Gary says “Snapdragon”
@ugursudupak4836
@ugursudupak4836 2 роки тому
Good videos
@williamhart4896
@williamhart4896 2 роки тому
The other SBC that you can throw windows on your pi4b8gb a lesser GPU but it's a lower price bite .
@RepsUp100
@RepsUp100 2 роки тому
I want one
@idcrafter-cgi
@idcrafter-cgi 2 роки тому
Finally a powerful Linux arm platform
@graealex
@graealex 2 роки тому
If your application is Linux, there are far more interesting boards available.
@MichaelMantion
@MichaelMantion 2 роки тому
@@graealex IF? lol BSD has little to offer, the only thing you should be focursed on is developing for linux to put window in the grave where it belongs. I remember using windows 1.0 and being depressed because I knew that people would prefer it to just dos. I am not against a GUI I am against bad software. MSDOS was ok, other DOS were better. BUT WIndows has always been bad. Windows 2k was ok but certainly not good.
@graealex
@graealex 2 роки тому
@@MichaelMantion Yeah, not really a big fan of religious Linux fans and getting into discussions with them. The matter of fact is that this board is only relevant if you need Windows to run. If that has no relevance for you, get a different board with more power.
@munocat
@munocat 2 роки тому
@@MichaelMantion looking forward to continuing using BSD, systems is an abomination
@AmusicsiteCoUk
@AmusicsiteCoUk 2 роки тому
@@graealex Are you implying Windows needs a bucket load more resources than Linux!!! Shocking.
@Giigigi1122
@Giigigi1122 2 роки тому
Windows gave up windows mobile too fast. It could have challenged Android with these ARM PC trends with mobile support. Many mild works can be done on the browser now, I use Samsung Dex for a work station sometimes and love it. MS did this first :/
@dicebeatsofficial2525
@dicebeatsofficial2525 2 роки тому
Can it run android ??
@hasansarca5913
@hasansarca5913 2 роки тому
Veryy good
@5yotub
@5yotub 2 роки тому
Couldn't help noticing you keep saying "Windows for SD", is it any difference from Window on ARM?
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 роки тому
Well the Snapdragon includes the GPU and 5G modem, so more than just an Arm CPU.
@5yotub
@5yotub 2 роки тому
True. So it's windows on ARM with all the drivers needed for the integrated GPU and 5G modem as well as maybe some optimizations
@siddu7
@siddu7 2 роки тому
Cool
@semseddinalkays7910
@semseddinalkays7910 2 роки тому
Güzel olmuş
@mirac8760
@mirac8760 2 роки тому
Çok güzel beğendim 👍😘
@remziyasar6619
@remziyasar6619 2 роки тому
knit a beautiful
@misteryu6819
@misteryu6819 2 роки тому
Wish there was more RAM, I do a lot of Docker works…
@PlanetCypher_
@PlanetCypher_ 2 роки тому
Where can I pick one up?
@PlanetCypher_
@PlanetCypher_ 2 роки тому
I see I can get one from Microsoft, although not available in UK, you can even get a discount if your a parent 🤓👍
@muhittinyapar2710
@muhittinyapar2710 2 роки тому
Süpar bir video
@ordan-burdankafamagore9966
@ordan-burdankafamagore9966 2 роки тому
Good
@5yotub
@5yotub 2 роки тому
A bit late to the party, but still exciting!! If only if were a bit more powerful
@5yotub
@5yotub 2 роки тому
DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!!!
@System64-Fumo
@System64-Fumo 2 роки тому
You see… the thing is… Raspberry pi’s are fun :P
@enverkeskin5108
@enverkeskin5108 2 роки тому
👍👍
@omersalihgencdal3394
@omersalihgencdal3394 2 роки тому
Güzel video
@ArashRezaee
@ArashRezaee 2 роки тому
Still I can't install apk on windows.
@adriancoanda9227
@adriancoanda9227 Рік тому
Wow the oerformance of that machine os low try exynos with 16gb ram it has 2 amd radeon 650 in sli config 3x8 core cpu running at 3500ghz it bettet than the box thingy
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains Рік тому
Where can you get an Exynos based PC with an AMD GPU running Windows? Link please!
@adriancoanda9227
@adriancoanda9227 Рік тому
@@GaryExplains ah windows you need to install on your own for example galaxy s22 ultra plus or if you really want a near pc experience galaxy tab s8 plus ,runs windows well ( for best experience you need to compile efi for that particular device or modify an similar efi go to gsm arena and check if the SoC has an DirectX support most have then you can install windows on it instalation is similar to renegade projects
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains Рік тому
🤣
@waynewilliamson4212
@waynewilliamson4212 2 роки тому
kind of like this...except that qualcomm in the middle there, and they have f**k up things pretty much across the board....Ok, maybe qc aren't as bad/inhibiting as I remember...
@Evan_Rodgers
@Evan_Rodgers 2 роки тому
But how powerful is it
@unicaller1
@unicaller1 2 роки тому
The price is still a bit steep but not terrible.
@ibrahimmmirac9478
@ibrahimmmirac9478 2 роки тому
beğendim çok çok
@esra_erimez
@esra_erimez 2 роки тому
Why didn't they use the 8cx?
@sadasd6846
@sadasd6846 2 роки тому
Or 7c 2nd gen.
@sadasd6846
@sadasd6846 2 роки тому
Or 7c 2nd gen.
@muhsinugur4463
@muhsinugur4463 2 роки тому
👍
@barissyigit4176
@barissyigit4176 2 роки тому
🤙
@sgodsellify
@sgodsellify 2 роки тому
Is this the 2 gen 7c SoC for $219.
@sadasd6846
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no 1st gen.
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