A Strange Encounter: Explaining Alien Abduction Belief

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Dr Ema Sullivan-Bissett (Research Fellow, Philosophy Department, University of Birmingham) delivered a talk entitled: “A Strange Encounter: Explaining Alien Abduction Belief" as part of the Arts and Science Festival 2015.
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@user-cc1vo5nk1r
@user-cc1vo5nk1r 3 роки тому
I've experienced sleep paralysis a lot, it is exactly what she says, hearing noises like someones is in the kitchen, shadow figures in the bedroom, trying to scream for help and trying to get out of the bed and just run out of the house. But this has nothing to do with very detailed stories of abductions. I think people who have experienced abductions and talk about their story, would be confronted with the phenomenon of sleep paralysis very soon. They would clearly say, that this was somehow similar but still another experience.
@jsv438
@jsv438 3 роки тому
Yes, and David Jacobs & Bud Hopkins often said in their books that MOST of their cases they studied did NOT happen at night in bed. Sleep paralysis doesn't happen when you're driving your car or at the park during an event with several people around you. It's just a case of people suffering from cognitive dissonance, and trying desperately to summon a parsed-word explanation for something they can in no way come to grips with, knowing that millions of people (including many lacking in their level of academic education) have been WAY ahead of [them] in studying a phenomenon that may someday soon become the single most important story in the history of human kind. How else will [they] own-up to admitting they were WRONG for all those years they fought desperately to "prove" wasn't real? Every one of these naysayers' (limited evidence) presentations may someday require the tag along w/their video clip, "FAIL". lol ~JSV
@christyofbattlebornbelievers
@christyofbattlebornbelievers 2 роки тому
thank you!!! This is very different! I can attest to that! I am an abductee for my entire life! It is very different
@eclectic_gamer
@eclectic_gamer 2 роки тому
It doesn't explain waking up wearing someone else's clothes, or waking up outside your own house which is locked from the inside, or unexplained scars on someone's body that weren't there the day before. To name a few common things that happen to abductees. Scientists say it can't be real because they can't get here from there, and that's what passes for science on this planet
@Chick4Biden2024
@Chick4Biden2024 Рік тому
I've experienced both SP & abductions. My family couldn't keep in the fully locked house (windows nailed shut, high locks on both doors) when I was 4 years old. They would find me outside, barefoot with my pajama t-shirt inside out and backwards in the snow down the street. It was so frequent that my grandpa gave me the nickname "inside out girl" because I woke up with my clothes on this way and no matter what they did, could not keep me from getting out of the house. Sleep paralysis is way different from my experiences.
@sandyzeatyahoo
@sandyzeatyahoo Рік тому
​@@jsv438 very well said
@michaelbrewer2443
@michaelbrewer2443 5 років тому
Sleep paralysis and alien abductions are to different things. Ive experienced sleep paralysis one time in my life and I will never forget it.
@sachadalkiran6594
@sachadalkiran6594 4 роки тому
I believe it has to do with it, I have had 1 night several times and nothing more, if this were a sleep disorder it would certainly have happened to us more often. (science) is not always right
@betacam235
@betacam235 3 роки тому
@@sachadalkiran6594 'Science' is supposed to be a tool, and the best method we have for examining the Universe using logic, not a set of dogmatic opinions which seem more like a religion. A hardware approach.... We need to modify the approach to examining the software, which is consciousness. It wasn't long ago that psychology actually denied the reality of individual consciousness! Fortunately, quantum physics has demonstrated that the cosmos is not only stranger than we imagined, it's much stranger than we could possibly ever dream of imagining. Which gives me, for one, some hope!
@Boomer1156
@Boomer1156 3 роки тому
Sleep paralysis has nothing to do with aliens or "Sleep paralysis"...she is a total fool, has no idea, totally ignorant, has no idea about bieng attacked at night, and l wish so much l could be her and not me.
@will.roman-ros
@will.roman-ros 3 роки тому
@@Boomer1156 in your defense, I've had sleep paralysis many times, and a few somewhat alien, as I think that's just bc the terror, but nothing ever even close to the detailed and vivid stories ppl tell, and not to mention many abduction stories where the ppl are totally concious and weren't asleep at the time.
@davidsamson1653
@davidsamson1653 2 роки тому
Me too. I was terrified. I could not force myself to move and was terrified. I just remember fighting so hard to move but was unable.
@SecurityLyfe247
@SecurityLyfe247 3 роки тому
To put human reasoning when explaining extraterrestrial motives, capabilities and/or reasoning just further shows how many people don’t know what they are actually speaking on.
@tomw4821
@tomw4821 3 роки тому
Absolutely Fabian. So many assumptions and so little reckoning with the reality of the situation. The Allies of Humanity share a perspective I've found nowhere else. You might find what they have to say insightful.
@jzblue345
@jzblue345 6 років тому
Yea but going into a space ship and seeing beings several times missing hours of your life while driving sleep paralysis only explanains some of the experiences and not nearly all of them
@trondyne3513
@trondyne3513 5 років тому
WTF difference does that make? If ANY of these claims are true, and there is a lot of evidence that they are.. She's putting "aside" those that may have been... Very politically correct and useless if the phenomena is true... Fun Fact, an estimated 6 Million Americans may claim to have been abducted and most of those are recurring....
@AceofDlamonds
@AceofDlamonds 2 роки тому
There ARE no alien spaceships. Those are the result of cultural conditioning that seep into alien beliefs.
@AceofDlamonds
@AceofDlamonds 2 роки тому
You can't say "it explains some of them but not all" and with a straight face not cast skepticism on the remaining claims, which by the way still have no evidence behind them and reek of cultural influence. Why do the Japanese report the old hag lady of their mythology?
@christyofbattlebornbelievers
@christyofbattlebornbelievers 2 роки тому
exactly!
@crabcakes4194
@crabcakes4194 2 роки тому
I have had several experiences which couldn’t be explained. When I was younger something woke me in the middle of the night and I peered out the window and seen a UFO 🛸 a bright white light I did not see the beings but it was there and gone in an instant. After that initial encounter and to this day I am experiencing consistent sleep paralysis , telepathy, lucid dreams, and one night I even felt my bed shook uncontrollably and I was being lifted out of the bed towards my window. It was terrifying. This gives me validation. Thank you Professor. 👩‍🏫
@jimmypinch
@jimmypinch 3 роки тому
According to mathematics and probability, other beings exist and are light years ahead of us in science.
@theunforgiven2885
@theunforgiven2885 2 роки тому
You are absolutely right and out of pure fear I think alot of people would like to ignore those general facts ....
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
According to probability there is other life out there, that much is true. But there is no amount of mathematics that can determine the technological stage of that other life, so that's a leap away from logic. Technological advancement is not linear. That is to say, if there are intergalactic time travelling aliens, that doesn't necessarily mean that they have all the technology we do. They may have technology that we don't, and we may have technology that they don't. You're making massive leaps in logic here. Also lightyears are a measurement of distance, not time.
@sciencepowerpoints
@sciencepowerpoints 11 місяців тому
@@theunforgiven2885 Exactly they are basically invisible to 'us'. The aliens are definetely doing something to our souls, like imprisoning us or something
@thnorthernAlliance
@thnorthernAlliance 4 роки тому
Fascinating I been experiencing this since age 14 I'm fifty now and until I'm in my grave I will always remember
@christyofbattlebornbelievers
@christyofbattlebornbelievers 2 роки тому
I have memories all the way back to 3 or 4 to the present. I am 51 and haven't really started talking about it til the last year or so because of the stigma and people like this who shame us into silence!
@samuelpope7798
@samuelpope7798 3 роки тому
Some people don't want to believe the truth because it is too horrible. Most people don't want to believe the truth because it is too mundane.
@nickpn23
@nickpn23 2 роки тому
You might be on to something there.
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
Five stars for the best comment here lol
@james-kc7xk
@james-kc7xk 4 роки тому
I wish my psychiatrist would have explained this to me first before pumping me full of chemicals when i told him about my encounter at twelve years old.
@tomw4821
@tomw4821 3 роки тому
Oh god James, that sounds horrible. I think this phenomenon is real and I want you to know that you're not mad. There is also something that you can do about it to prepare - the book Steps To Knowledge is designed specifically to help people gain control of their minds and lives to serve the world. Its really helped many abductees regain there sense of Self and purpose in life.
@billybatson8657
@billybatson8657 3 роки тому
It seems the experience is most prominent around 11-12 years of age.
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
@@tomw4821 "I want you to know that you're not mad. " you don't know that, just because you say something, just because it might have happened to others in reality, doesn't mean it happened to everyone who beliefs this. You can't know it and if you say you do, i want to prove to us how you've obtained the knowledge about that particular person who wrote the comment. " lives to serve the world. " You can always do that, you don't need to buy a book by someone that tells you to use your common sense. @UCos9lBWweretlT641xwJ4BQ Puberty really can do crazy things to your brain and entire body chemistry.
@lookingupwithwonder
@lookingupwithwonder 2 роки тому
How do you explain when people have things implanted and are awake when it happens?
@AceofDlamonds
@AceofDlamonds 2 роки тому
Psycho-social conditioning. There is not a single claim of this implant stuff confirmed medically. It's a psychological phenomenon.
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
How do you explain the authenticity of those claims? Is it impossible to have a nightmare where you merely seem to be awake? Over time that fragmented nightmare turns into a false memory and voila, you think it really happened.
@piotrj.8251
@piotrj.8251 2 роки тому
check Lucio Carsi # hypnosis regresivo
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
Have any of these implants ever been removed or recovered?
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
@@prince-solomon Lol I believe the only way to confirm the claims of having implants inserted is to actually remove said implants and examine them. If that cannot be done, then the authenticity of those claims cannot be confirmed.
@Kyanzes
@Kyanzes 4 роки тому
If it ever happens to you, I very much hope so you will be similarly reasonable. When you know you are not dreaming. Everything happening is very real. And you are powerless to do anything about it. And you are trying to grasp onto your reason.
@NightMedicine
@NightMedicine 3 роки тому
Not having watched this yet I'ma guess sleep paralysis, buried sexual abuse memories, and confabulation via hypnosis? Edit. Nailed it. I wish she would have talked about the individuals who claimed to have been abducted while awake in the daytime.
@heyguysinternet
@heyguysinternet Рік тому
Yeah. I mean, this whole study is based on a minimum of selectively aggregated cases, but the frequent explanatory recourses which have to do with hypnagogic/hypnopompic states seem to be willfully ignorant of the fact that most abductions are reported as having happened when the persons are awake. It’s just so tiring to see academia’s myopia in action on this subject time and again.
@ilsatiricofreebootergiovan4491
@ilsatiricofreebootergiovan4491 2 роки тому
maybe one of these days she will abducted and greys say: "don't worry we not exist, you said in your previous conference" lol
@bsadewitz
@bsadewitz 3 роки тому
What about people who have experiences when they're not in bed? I don't think it is likely that these experiences are due to "aliens from another planet" or whatever. I think that we may actually have no idea whatsoever what is going on. Jacques Vallee has written extensively on this, and yet the critics hardly ever even mention him. I suspect this is because the goal isn't explaining the phenomenon, but rather explaining it away.
@jsv438
@jsv438 3 роки тому
You're right 100%. I was just writing this same thing in reply to another comment here, and about ALL the HUGE chunks of gravely important evidence that gets conveniently excluded when trying to explain away what really happens to these victims. I think we're experiencing a new wave of Phil Klass and Michael Schirmer followers that get empowered to see how all these case don't stand up when you EXCLUDE the BULK of the evidence! Heck we could all be capable of overturning every murder conviction if we use THAT method. It's a shame too, because their doing their intellect and the earned value of their education a disservice. ~JSV
@bsadewitz
@bsadewitz 3 роки тому
@@jsv438 IMHO, they're simply too comfortable in their roles because too many people accept mediocrity in this field. What Jacques Vallee wrote is probably more heretical to Ufologists than physicists.
@richarddalby1880
@richarddalby1880 3 місяці тому
Yea non believers go too fare the other way to rule everything out .
@kevin15776
@kevin15776 3 роки тому
Why do so many of them report seeing the same kinds of aliens (tall greys, short greys, reptile beings, insect beings, tall blond beings) and procedures? Why aren't they seeing blue dragons that play chess with them?
@will.roman-ros
@will.roman-ros 2 роки тому
Exactly. Also there are YT channels like "Only Real UFO's" that not only compile good UFO videos, but as one looks through the videos by date, they will find the same UFO's witnessed in the same months and regions as others. That is mounting videographical evidence: at least of UFO's. Since the compilation is so large, often one can cite the same UFO as seen by abductee claimants, not to mention witnesses of the same UFO's of claimants without photos or video, in their region at the time of alleged abduction.
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
I think the same reason why medieval people in Europe tended to see ANGELS and stuff... it's what you expect to see, from cultural imprints in your brain. There are also numerous old/ancient reports of flying ships in the sky, which looked like actual ships of that era. With sailors "diving" down to the human observers at times. ( e.g.: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/apmkZndrbnyKlmw.html ) Today we expect to see saucer/triangle shaped UFOs and little/tall grey aliens...so that's what many people belief they saw
@Insectoid_
@Insectoid_ Рік тому
Some of us do see other things. Maybe we are related, maybe they created us. We don’t know. I can assure you it’s not just in people’s heads. Thankfully the government are finally starting to take this seriously
@trojan403
@trojan403 Рік тому
Because these are demonic entities. They are taking a form that currently fits the thought of the day. They take this form to deceive people into believing they are aliens, in order for the individual to submit their will to them and they will in turn gain access to their psyche - all in order to torment their victims. They have been doing this to humans in various forms since time immemorial. Aliens are just the current flavour of their deception. Jacques Vallee tends to this belief as well.
@heyguysinternet
@heyguysinternet Рік тому
The government has “taken this seriously” for decades. Don’t be fooled into thinking the US only started to care about UFOs a few years before the New York Times article in 2017. They want to control the narrative.
@Scalettadom
@Scalettadom 2 роки тому
So you start by redefining the word abductee to suit your argument, then you assume the consequent. Whether this phenomena occurs in physical reality or not, your discussion is firmly mounted on fallacy. Not proper science.
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
She made it quite clear, that she isn't talking about all people who got abducted by aliens, she narrowed it down to people who only belief they had been abducted even though they hadn't and offers explanation for how such false beliefs could originate. It's a narrow subject, but there is nothing wrong with it. She isn't saying that nobody ever has been abducted by aliens and all beliefs are false, she only said that there are people who have this belief, which in their cases is false, and here are some reasons why their belief turned up in the first place. Just listen properly and everything is fine.
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
I don't think anyone ever claimed this was science. This is from the liberal arts faculty, and she's a doctor of philosophy.
@minde28383
@minde28383 7 років тому
wow so only few views and no comments. I know what sleep paralysis is. I encountered it only once. I was afraid to sleep that night after it happen. I was afraid to close my eyes. Not just close but i was extremely afraid to even blink even one time. I mean literally i was afraid to blink even once. Because if i would do so i was afraid that i was going to get again back to the state - sleep paralysis. I took about an hour or maybe two or so and than i was starting to think that it's time to get back to bed. I was about maybe 23 or maybe 25 at that time. It was extremely scary but i can't tell at what year it happened. That's how it is for some folks. No matter how many people will tell you what sleep paralysis is you won't understand it, you won't somehow imagine and feel it unless you been through. Feelings are so much more than words. I have tried to tell few people what i been through but they never experienced and they don't grasp it. It meaningless to them. It so meaningless to them that they wouldn't even remember me mentioning it. They don't have even similar conception of the similar event and there is nothing them to associate it with. There are no words in the word to express how scary it was. My case was classic one. I woke up in my body as in prison. My body was as vessel - flesh&bones. I felt as if i was in my body but disconnected from it. It was two separate things. There was flesh&bones and there was me - consciousness. And me the consciousness wanted to control the flesh&bones so badly but there was no connection whatsoever. We were two separate things. Oh man, you don't know how scary i felt and suddenly me - my consciousness suddenly got connected to my body. Oh my god, what urged and needful feeling became present. Due fear no more blinking for few next hours. You can't compare that to dog fear, to water or height fear. This fear was different. After so many years i can remember this event quite well but fear itself vanished as dust in the wind. Unfortunately that how we are made. We remember it was there but don't feel it. Maybe that's way we love material word so much, because it can linger little bit longer, not like feelings. Nevertheless I'm not saying i would want to remember it but it would be cool to have at access to it on demand, controlled access. If i could somehow conserve/synthesize such fear i been through and sell it in pills, I would be billionaire, no roller coaster is near to it. Our brains are extremely well orchestrated equipment. If it goes little bit wrong we might go through heaven or hell. That's why we must try to be open minded and sensitive about others feelings and thoughts. Sometimes it's only glitch in the brain but sometimes maybe something else. If they say they were abducted than maybe it's what they been through. Really to share experience is only by participating together. After the fact it's only dust in the wind. Don't let wind to blow all dusts.
@cityandsuburb
@cityandsuburb 5 років тому
The first paragraph of the last text is solid gold, I so wish I'd been more 'open'.... My wife & I experienced an encounter with visitors in '91 which ended a 33 year blissful marriage....a drop of very potent 'poison' was dripped into our lives that September morning. I was such a pragmatic character, a believer in straight Newtonian physics, NO deviation. Suddenly I had to change my belief system in the geological Solar-system to the biological Solar-system....I ended up spending three winters on the street, almost dying of hypothermia on two occasions - sleeping under a sheet of polythene in woodland. This from a very comfortable life indeed. Thank you for your valuable words....
@davidk7441
@davidk7441 4 роки тому
You're doing it wrong. You should be blinking 182 times
@will.roman-ros
@will.roman-ros 3 роки тому
Just so you're aware, you can have sleep paralysis enough times to control the fear, but that doesn't mean you're any better at taking back control. The worst is when I get it while I'm grinding my teeth, and so I'm fighting a clenched jaw, and feel like I'm going to break my teeth. You're right that we should be open minded. I've had sleep paralysis and thought I was going to be abducted, and once thought I saw an alien, but I could easily ascribe those to sleep paralysis, the subconscious, and the extreme anxiety: I had no problem telling what was real. Obviously abductees have much more vivid experiences than simply a dream or sleep paralysis, which can often be hard to remember at all. Not to mention ppl who say they weren't even asleep to begin with.
@channyl252
@channyl252 Рік тому
I was 4 years old when I experienced sleep paralysis. I can remember the details like it happened yesterday and I am now 51! I was terrified! I saw tall figures at the end of my bed and I felt my long hair being cut at the head of my bed. I was completely awake but unable to move and so scared! The next three months I refused to sleep in my room and began sleeping in my sister’s doorways. No one understood how to help me but to this day, I don’t care what anyone says, I experienced something very odd! As for this lecture, to assume people are ‘weird’ because they believe in alternative health etc…is very sad. That is NOT a ‘weird’ ideology unless you are still believing in a patriarchal society. Time to change our beliefs. Aliens are real and they have been here for many many years.
@scruffyLG
@scruffyLG 2 роки тому
I had sleep paralysis happen to me once when I was 12. I saw a tall shadow figure wearing a tall hat. Another freaky thing happen to me about 2 years ago when I was walking out my room. I opened the door and felt like I was loosing control over all motor functions and briefly saw 3 tall beings about 7 feet tall. The one In the middle maybe all of them at once tried to communicated something to me but whatever they were doing to me was begging to make me unconscious.
@piotrj.8251
@piotrj.8251 2 роки тому
please check Lucio Carsi # hypnosis regresivo
@solnocturna267
@solnocturna267 4 роки тому
You make a presentation about abductees, but start off by putting actual abductees to the side to focus on an entirely different demographic for the rest of your presentation? Why? Sleep paralysis is interesting and all, but it's not the reason why some people are getting abducted and tagged like animals by an intelligence of unknown origin.
@666Nightshift
@666Nightshift 2 роки тому
Right on the ball, agree 100% !!! Abduction is a very serious matter!!!
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
Well she did nothing wrong, she pointed out that she is only talking about those people who THINK they were abducted, but weren't in reality. That doesn't mean, as she said herself, that there aren't people that did actually get abducted. It is a presentation of one specific subject. Nothing wrong with that.
@spk8489
@spk8489 3 роки тому
If she assumes arguendo that alien abduction is not real... then why is she constantly trying to debunk the possibility throughout the talk. Also, referring to people and their beliefs as "weird" is not part of a sound logical argument.
@christyofbattlebornbelievers
@christyofbattlebornbelievers 2 роки тому
Exactly! This is just Shaming Propaganda to silence us and make us crawl back in our shell of secrecy! Just my humble opinion as an abductee of 51 years!
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
Ah, I think you're misunderstanding her. Her point is not to debunk, nor to prove or disprove anything. She's trying to give an alternative explanation to what an alien abduction could be, with a base assumption that it isn't actually an alien abduction. She's assuming that alien abductions are not real for the purpose of trying to discuss an alternative explanation. This is standard philosophical rhetoric. In philosophical rhetoric, an assumption is simply a base upon which you build an argument. An assertion, on the other hand, is a statement that draws a conclusion based on an argument. This causes some confusion, because most people hear the word assumption, and they believe that it means a conclusion has been drawn, because that's what an assumption is in normal speech. Alas, an assumption in philosophy can be complete nonsense. For example, in order to make an argument that mathematics was discovered rather than invented, you may start with the assumption that numbers don't exist. Depending on how you follow that up it can be a perfectly logical argument, despite the fact that we know that numbers do exist. Because in philosophy, an assumption does not draw a conclusion, it simply creates the foundation for an argument. This is why philosophy gives some people headaches lol
@daspanda8247
@daspanda8247 Рік тому
@@a.nonimus6705 Mmm, her body of work in regards to the subject matter may all be in the form and discipline of philosophy but her bias is pretty clear. She believes all accounts from people that allege these types of encounters aren't actually real. Even if the individual honestly believes it, they believe in something that does not exist.
@miakaal
@miakaal 3 роки тому
This is a classic debunk.
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
Classic debunk? So it's absolutely impossible that one single person thinks they've been abducted but in reality they havn't? That it was merely a delusion? Absolutely 100% impossible? Do you doubt delusions exist? She is referring to exact these kinds of people, not those that actually have been abducted (as she points out herself), but those that delude themselves for whatever reason. That's an important difference that many in the comment section don't seem to understand.
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
This isn't a debunk. She doesn't make a single assertion or conclusion. This is simply philosophical inquiry.
@chesterules
@chesterules 2 роки тому
I've experienced quite a bit of sleep paralysis. It actually usually happens if my body can't handle something I ate (like eating too many carbs and not drinking enough water). My hallucinations are usually that some kind of entity (I've never seen an entity--only felt its presence) is trying to possess my body in some kind of way and hold me down. I definitely have trouble breathing and feel that I am in a fight for my life. Often I'm afraid to go back to sleep as I often will get more than one night terror in a night. But in the morning I always feel fine and haven't experienced trauma from these otherwise scary experiences. Right after I break free from the sleep paralysis (or night terror) I tell myself it was just a night terror.
@nickpn23
@nickpn23 2 роки тому
Perhaps you could learn to appreciate the experience? I don't think anything bad ever happens, though the suffocating is a bit much I suppose. I love SP.
@piotrj.8251
@piotrj.8251 2 роки тому
check Lucio Carsi # hypnosis regresivo
@youngknowledgeseeker
@youngknowledgeseeker 2 роки тому
I’ve had sleep paralysis all throughout my young life. As far as I can remember never once did I hallucinate or think other beings were there. It was certainly a feeling of panic and fear but I just assumed it was because I was paralyzed and that’s not a comfortable feeling especially when you’ve had it before and it comes back again and you’re like “oh no not again“. Only one time, and it may have just been a dream so to speak, and it was only after I had been exposed to sleep paralysis being daemonic or aliens or whatever, did I “think“ that I was seeing a shadow moving on my wall for a brief second. It was only the one time, and incidentally it was one of the last times I know I have ever had sleep paralysis. That being said, my word people the proof is beyond out there at this point, sleep paralysis in no way fully explains what is going on with people claiming abductions and little gray aliens and UFOs. You will be looked at unfavorably in history if you were one of the close minded/ignorant/arrogant Who worked against the investigation of this matter in a series and open minded manner that being said whatever entities are behind the paralysis of the human body during these events may be triggering the same mechanics in the brain behind normal physiological sleep paralysis, hence the similarities
@placeborick
@placeborick 5 років тому
minde28383 if I lie in bed too long after initially waking in the morning I can almost guarantee sleep paralysis, I can feel it coming. Terrifying at first when in my lazy teen years but now as a seasoned paralysis veteran I'm actually in control of it to an extent and can snap out of it if I really try. My most memorable experience was crawling from my own body and across the wall through a swarm of bees. It was as though I was tethered with elastic bands but I had the strength to keep crawling away. I imagine this is what astral projectors experience. It's all mind trickery for sure. As psychedelic as you can get without the drugs :-D
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
Quite interesting and surely terrifying as a young kid.
@piotrj.8251
@piotrj.8251 2 роки тому
check Lucio Carsi # hypnosis regresivo
@ryanallison2863
@ryanallison2863 3 роки тому
The fact that this intellectual would possibly question John Mack - ridiculous. The man was a pulitzer-prize winner, Harvard psychiatrist and trained psychoanalyst. The sleep paralysis theory has been advanced since the beginning of recorded abductions. Notice also she does not compare Benny and Barney Hill's SEPARATE hynotherapy archives which corroborate the event independently. The fact that Mack or others on his level would not be able to tell the difference between sleep paralysis and trauma of this sort is hopelessly naive, reckless, and dangerous. This speaker should be ashamed of herself.
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
She's clearly just a grad student doing a presentation for a credit. She didn't make any assertions or conclusions in her argument, so cut her some slack.
@lisadelgado6705
@lisadelgado6705 3 роки тому
I think we try to understand as best we can and its beyond our understanding
@piotrj.8251
@piotrj.8251 2 роки тому
do yourself a favour and check Lucio Carsi # hypnosis regresivo
@richarddalby1880
@richarddalby1880 3 місяці тому
Sleep paralysis will explain a lot of abduction cases but I didn't agree it can explain all .each case can be vastly different.
@johnoldman7598
@johnoldman7598 2 роки тому
She obviously thinks all of us here in North America are wackos, LOL. She points that out quite a bit in her lecture :-)
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
No, only that some are "wackos" and she offers some reasons why they are wackos. She focuses on that specific group of alien abductees, the ones with delusions.
@doctorambient
@doctorambient 3 роки тому
Not a particularly interesting talk, just the usual rehash of the "sleep paralysis and movies make people believe in aliens" trope. Just summarizing and citing other work, no original contribution here. Not worth your time.
@theseeker1237
@theseeker1237 5 років тому
And then for some people it really happens. Gotta go. They are here again, i hear them calling, and i really want to go.
@christyofbattlebornbelievers
@christyofbattlebornbelievers 2 роки тому
no, this experience of sleep paralysis you are talking about I am quite familiar with as well. That is astral projection when you wake inside your body and sometimes leave and there can be what you would refer to as hallucinations, but this is quite different from the abductions! I am an abductee for all of my life and trust me these abductions are not the same thing as sleep paralysis! They are very difference experiences although there are a few similarities because of how they abduct you and the way they maintain control. I have been abducted during the day while not sleeping and once in my car while driving. How does sleep paralysis explain that? would be happy to explain further if anyone is interested! I have been researching this for over 30 years now. I am 51 now and I have many memories and experiences throughout the years.
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
Interesting how they also pointed out that abductees tend to be believers in things such as astral projection. I think you're unwittingly making this girl's argument even more compelling lol
@trojan403
@trojan403 Рік тому
I would like to hear more of your story. I would like to let you know how to stop all of these abduction dead in their tracks as well (providing you want them to stop).
@ContactTimes
@ContactTimes 2 роки тому
It’s amazing how all these people that can’t afford to even consider the phenomenon as “real” - appear to be continually attracted again and again to the area. Really you’d assume it would be a topic that faded away once it was decided to be something other than what it purported to be... ...maybe it is what it is. ?! 🤔🙂🛸 -
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
I'm not advocating for either side here, but what you're saying is that you're surprised these nonbelievers haven't moved on? Whether these abductions are real or fake, they're certainly very interesting. If they're real, then it's interesting from a paranormal perspective. If they're fake, then it's interesting from a psychological perspective. So I'm not at all surprised that the nonbelievers are still fascinated by the phenomenon. They're just as fascinated as the believers, but for a completely different reason.
@interupted
@interupted Рік тому
I had tons of sleep paralysis but most abduotions dont take place while a person is asleep. Plus physical phenomena is documened associated with abducions ..its a real phenom that did happen and if it was psycological there would be other indicators which arent present
@KeithGriffiths
@KeithGriffiths 2 роки тому
Good argument. My question would be on the basis, slim chance an alien abduction (or government abduction) did happen, how could you get anyone to believe you, or do you go into a state of denial?
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
If there's no physical evidence of the abduction, then I don't think you can get anyone to believe you unfortunately. I think that's sort of the problem with this whole topic, no one really knows for certain whether or not the phenomena is real.
@nazdat333
@nazdat333 2 роки тому
Sleep paralysis is naturally occurring in our bodies, it doesn’t necessarily happen only to prevent us from acting out dreams, but it can also be induced by stress. I’m an abductee, and I know they can put us in a state of paralysis for their own safety. These tall beings people see can many times be shadow people which are ET’s or screen memories. I had an experience once where I knew they were present in my bedroom and they put me in paralysis and one was petting my head with a finger, until I passed out. Abductions also happen my time of day, preferably when there are not people around, but if they need you they’re going to get you even if it means putting everyone at your office meeting in a state of suspended animation. They can cloak their ships so coming for people in daylight hours are no problem for them. Lastly for those people in the comments wondering why they won’t leave us alone, they’ve been abducting us for way more than 50 years 😂 Abductions are generational, what they’re doing is creating other humanoid types. Aliens are the ones that created us and evolved our “look” from asrozlepithecus. And for the grand finale, they created “jesus” too, aliens are god.
@1ghostchick
@1ghostchick 2 роки тому
I sure hope you're right
@JCResDoc94
@JCResDoc94 Рік тому
*imagine what the aliens i abduct tell thr therapists* now i nearly feel guilty. it is a make work program tho. _JC
@markhonea2461
@markhonea2461 Рік тому
She left out being missing and returning later.
@Burnedtoastify
@Burnedtoastify Рік тому
This was filmed in 2015. Several years before the US military admitted observing UAP craft, and before the 1994 Ariel school encounter details became well known. Dozens of children described an interaction with alien beings and many of the details they witnessed are also details most abductees describe. We are the wolves, they are the scientists in the helicopter with the tranquilizer gun and tracking tags.
@pojjj2523
@pojjj2523 9 місяців тому
I had this last night, its real but they're more like hyperdimensional biengs and yes one over the bed and two in the corner of the room.. very cool! I woke up and they were pissed because they couldn't control me and i didnt seem to give a shit.. but it was the real deal, very strange phenomenon
@a3ephony654
@a3ephony654 3 роки тому
Well, this makes no sense whatsoever. It’s much more likely these people are being abducted. Thanks 👍🏼
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
You're right. Aliens abducting people and performing experiments on them makes far more sense than people experiencing normal physiological events. It's like I tell my wife all the time, "Did I misplace my keys or did aliens take them?" Obviously it's aliens. I hate how they always put them back somewhere stupid though and then she finds them and thinks she's debunked the alien theory. No no no, they put them there specifically so she'd find them, so that they don't blow their cover. It's nice to finally meet another reasonable human being.
@brume220
@brume220 2 роки тому
Now tell me why the AATIP studies this topic VERY closely … how you explained the lost of kilometers of 6 km of my parents in one sec….
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
It is the responsibility of those who MAKE claims to prove their claims, not vice versa. So? You can't disprove, that i have been to another galaxy, no matter how hard you try! Does this make my claim true? But if i make this claim, i should be the one offering you proof that i have been to another galaxy. I hope you understand this.
@billybatson8657
@billybatson8657 3 роки тому
"I have no proof of anything either way, so I'm 100% convinced these people are all lying". Is that how science is taught?
@lookingupwithwonder
@lookingupwithwonder 2 роки тому
No not lying.
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
You didn't seem to understand the subject of her presentation at all, she clearly narrowed it down and only talked about people, who delude themselves that they were abducted. She didn't say that ALL abduction claims are false, but she doesn't focus on the SUPPOSEDLY "actual" abduction cases, merely on the possibility of delusions and how these delusions could be explained scientifically. Next time: PAY ATTENTION!
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
This is why philosophy presentations shouldn't be on UKposts. The majority of people can't understand them lol
@hayleybells5002
@hayleybells5002 3 роки тому
At the end she says about paralysis "the experience is more likely to be caused by something normal than something paranormal". But don't u think normal is paranormal, paranormal normal? Come on people these days are opening up up to spirituality
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
"people these days are opening up up to spirituality" That doesn't mean there is anything to it. When approached scientifically, Spirituality hasn't produced a single piece of evidence that there is any merit to it. It's a belief, nothing more. Like when you belief in the tooth fairy, or gods, or magic et cetera...
@Madmok128
@Madmok128 Рік тому
I’ve had sleep paralysis happen many times but only during one time in my life when I was dealing with a paranormal nightmare, did I hear something next to me in the room (most awful growling sound I’ve ever heard in my life). During these episodes, while wide awake More than once I’ve been completely paralyzed during a few of these episodes. These are def demonic attacks.
@digidali999
@digidali999 Рік тому
It really helps speaking to psychiatrists and psychologists about your experiences. I tried different antipsychotics over a period of years, but they didn't stop or alter the experiences. My wife and I talk about our experiences on a doc here on UKposts. The best thing experiencers can do is talk to others who've gone through the same thing. It helps feeling less alone.
@PazoraArts
@PazoraArts Рік тому
Yeah, probably not the best idea unless you want to get diagnosed as psychotic or thrown in a ward.
@plfr8541
@plfr8541 2 роки тому
One time when I was a child, I believed i was levitating and touched by a witch. It was sleep paralysis for sure.
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
Or a nightmare that turned into a supposed "real life" memory. I had stuff like this happening to me, where i thought that certain dreams actually happened...but it turned out, they didn't, just false memories
@knightmarefuel4499
@knightmarefuel4499 2 роки тому
You cannot blame them for coming to conclusions such as these for explanations considering the fact the government has don’t such a good job discrediting the subject to the point there was simply to reasonable way to believe them. We know differently now. The crafts objectively exist so that must give such events a second look.
@christyofbattlebornbelievers
@christyofbattlebornbelievers 2 роки тому
would you do this if I was abducted and violated sexually and mentally by another human on earth instead of an alien? Would it be okay to dismiss the persons experience as false or fake giving power to the abductor by doing so.. Treating an abduction this way right off the bat just silences the victim and shames them into never seeking treatment for their PTSD or anxiety related to these experiences or ever reporting it. Is this right? Ask yourself this!
@lamecasuelas2
@lamecasuelas2 2 роки тому
One of the most interesting theories that i have heard about alien abductions says that such events might be flashbacks from the day we were born, which explains the strong lights, being on a medical table, and the almost human looking but not quite there alien look.
@piotrj.8251
@piotrj.8251 2 роки тому
check Lucio Carsi # hypnosis regresivo
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
That's an interesting theory. Correct me if I'm wrong though, doesn't it take like 24 - 48 hours for a baby's eyes to actually open after being born?
@massimofavero80
@massimofavero80 2 роки тому
Working with military personnel and witnesses one knows there is irrefutable and definitive evidence for alien abduction. In Italy we had it confirmed by psychiatrists and policemen at the same time. Thus your opinion is not required. This is what happens when one claims to give lectures on such complex matters when knowing only information in her/his field.
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
Question though, what happens when you decide which opinions are required/not required? Doesn't that result in the same thing you're saying she's doing?
@Anonymous-gi6hw
@Anonymous-gi6hw 2 роки тому
ive been abducted and got round mark at my left temple but I didnt tell anybody
@ahrimanic7
@ahrimanic7 2 роки тому
Until it happens to you.
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
Sleep paralysis can happen to anyone, yes.
@eclectic_gamer
@eclectic_gamer 2 роки тому
It won't happen to you. Abductees are born that way it's not random
@teraygrayabe2677
@teraygrayabe2677 2 роки тому
I cant believe this lovely young lady got so many negative likes shes amazingly intelligent ! Loved watching this speech !!! 🌴😎🏖️
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
Most just don't pay attention to what her actual subject is and think she is saying that ALL ALIEN ABDUCTEES ARE CRAZY. Even though, that's not the subject of her presentation which she made quite clear in the beginning: She narrowed it down to those people (a group within the alien abductee group) who only belief they had been abducted even though they hadn't been and offers explanation for how such false beliefs could originate.
@Z3t487
@Z3t487 2 роки тому
Describe the damn alien ship in detail if aliens kidnapped you and make draws.
@eclectic_gamer
@eclectic_gamer 2 роки тому
They do
@beng9411
@beng9411 2 роки тому
The hypothesis that these individuals had prior beliefs in other mystic or physic beliefs is demonstrably false. Many of these individuals were what we would define as traditional in their belief sets, basic christian judaeo beliefs and had no interest the other worldly, the physic, or the unexplained. Its strange that the speaker was not willing to acknowledge the braid cross section of individuals who report these “abductions”.
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 роки тому
"basic christian judaeo beliefs and had no interest the other worldly, the physic, or the unexplained. " you're contradicting yourself here. So they were into magic & paranormal stuff (christian belief) already...
@Ccccpp1
@Ccccpp1 3 роки тому
Typically academic full of theory and no experience in life . This lady is delusional 🖖
@ketchupcommander
@ketchupcommander 2 роки тому
What about the catagory of people who never said they were abducted but actually were abducted? Like me.
@starlightlion8603
@starlightlion8603 2 роки тому
"Why are aliens stupid" is hardly a sound argument. A lot of this discussion is actually interesting, but baseline assuming that a) humans are alone in the universe and b) alien motives can only be logically sound by human standards are not assumptions that can be supported scientifically. And that's ignoring that there are plenty of explanations to be had even within human logic. We catch wild animals, tag them, and release them all the time. We institute breeding programs for animals. When we don't understand something, we capture it and study it. And we've been doing it for millennia and will continue to do so. There are tons of creatures that we *share* a planet with that we don't understand yet and have been studying for decades. Hells, there's tone about *humans ourselves* that we don't understand yet, and we've been studying ourselves for as long as we've existed. There is merit to this discussion but using this as the 'logical' assumption as to why all abduction recounts are false is a flimsy foundation at best.
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
I'm not sure she ever said "why are aliens stupid". As for the baseline assumptions, she's a doctorate of philosophy. When you make philosophical arguments, you make baseline assumptions as the foundation of your argument. This is different than the idea of an assumption in typical speech, in which it is drawing a conclusion. An assumption in a philosophical argument does not draw a conclusion, nor does it even claim to be true. It is just the foundation for an argument; so as to say "if x, then y, therefore z". A better way to look at a philosophical assumption is as a hypothesis; not necessarily something that's true, but a statement that's extrapolated upon in the interest of intellectual inquiry. EDIT: Just want to add that her entire argument is perfectly logical. Logical doesn't mean correct, it just means that it follows the rules of making sense. If I said I got hit by a car crossing the street, that'd be a logical statement, despite the fact that it is entirely false. If, however, I said I got hit by a car while riding on an airplane, that would be illogical, regardless of whether or not it was true.
@sandyyoung521
@sandyyoung521 2 роки тому
I've had many sleep paralysis. I had never watched an alien movie . But that's what I saw on top of me when I forced my eyes open. AND WHAT ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE AWAKE WHEN THEY ARE ABDUCTED,?
@fancycrafts7774
@fancycrafts7774 2 роки тому
Why do so many people try so hard to quickly explain things away instead of neutrally observing and recording? Someone should explain that away in a presentation.
@markhonea2461
@markhonea2461 Рік тому
Sure lots of 8 year olds have the beliefs and have studied the list she spoke of. They have watched the film's and go to mufon events. There are even 5 year olds like that.
@thespotlightkid1011
@thespotlightkid1011 3 роки тому
As a practicle person who believes in hands-on evidence, i've seen 2 or 3 mainstream tv programs where implants have been surgically extracted from claimed alien abductees after x'rays taken because the abductee has seen unusual skin surface marks &/or felt constant irritation in a defined area, sometimes feeling the physical prescence of a small subcutaneous object) These programs have follewed the proccess & paid to have the extactded onbjects analyised by proffessional laboritary & on 1 program by the M.I.T. laboritary, in the cases shown, these objectd were declared as being manufactured using "unidentifiable elements" one lab declared, "metals & dments not of this world" another lab concluded & "did you get this from z meteorite"... said another ..."because whatever this is made from, it's not made from any element known or theorised to exist" ..like many were found long after Mendelev came up with the Periodic Table. The unusual ones cane late, like Moscovian, Tennessine & Donaldtrumpian. Encouraging effort of research but she's a kid with much to learn about the seemingly paranormal, as the majority has inc' myself but when this type of physical (& scientifically properly analysed by highly credited laboratory) ...implant evidence shows up many times ...true science, investigatory science follow-up from eye witnessed accounts & assumptions like this one, of fanciful dreaming during sleep paralysis to explain alien presence) ...must be totally seperated. (Everything we know about most historic events like military battles for 1 e.g. come from "eyewitnessed accounts" but whe 2, 5 or 25 or 5000 people witnessed a huge triangular ufo above Pheonix ...then it's just "mass hysteria" There is a deep-state agenda concerning ufo's in USA & UK & affiliated countries. UFOs can't only be seen in counyries who made ufo evidence open to the public! P.S. ve had 1 encounter of sleep paralysis as a 9 or 10 year old, strong, real & unforgettable because it's alarming & scary enough alone & without aliens standing around. 1 morning immediatly after opening my eye's & becmong wide-awake as usual, i instantly found i couldnt move. I know i'd opened my eyes but i lay there for maybe just a couple of minutes & tried my hardest to invoke some or any movement at all but in vain like the link between brain & any movable body parts had been totally severed. I was glad when the effect suddenly disappeared in within a nano-second & i knew i was not dreaming, apart from trying but failing to scream "mum!" Nothing happened in that paralysed time. I remember it was a horrible feeling while i was incapacitated. It never happend since then, 40 odd years ago & ive never been abducted or evdn seen a classic ufo even tho ive spent years as an amateur astronomer & ground my own Newtonian t/scopes 8" inch reflector mirror at Christchurch Astonomy Club it still gets used tho only when there's some scheduled & viewable event like Hale-Bopp, a Saturn or Jupitor moon highlited in transit & Haley's comet last pass in it's 76'ish cyclic return. But no ufo's, not that i'd waste time trying to see one, the countries like France, Chile & Argentina who have publicly released footage of their military jet possies sent out after radar finds them in their airspace, they succeed or just try to keep up with them when instructed to observe & often witnessing them performing tight right-angle instant 90'degree turns, often at 7 to 12 thousand & more mph, that G-Force would desroy our aircrft & would destroy our constructions & squash humans to < a few atoms thick no matter what strapped anti-G force suit or gunk you could be suspended in ...all tells me something's going on. Especially around military bases, power stations & other sources of high radiation, even tho they are contained, UFOs are most seen buzzing around those places more than anywhere else. Or maybe those pilots all fell into sleep paralysis & thier camera's telepathically photo'd their simultaniously syncronided dream or ufo ...or something similarly stupid like this kid might believe.
@kaushikpresents9439
@kaushikpresents9439 Рік тому
Lady, there are more things around than you could imagine.
@scottcraig77
@scottcraig77 2 роки тому
You can still be abducted and appear to still be in the here and now.
@jediknight73
@jediknight73 Рік тому
Boy this won't age well
@gwills9337
@gwills9337 Рік тому
Academics offering disfunctional strategies for understanding what's going on. This video is aging poorly.
@kalekold
@kalekold 2 роки тому
Sleep paralysis doesn't explain abductions where the abductee was physically absent during the abduction or abductions that involve multiple people at the same time. I really wish you would read a bit more instead of regurgitating this tired old sleep paralysis theory.
@eclectic_gamer
@eclectic_gamer 2 роки тому
You make the statement that most abductees are in North America, this is incorrect, most people who are investigating abductions and speak English are in North America and Europe and we know that is a worldwide phenomenon. I agree that sleep paralysis is a real thing I have experienced it, but I never saw any aliens, you also make the assumption that most abductions happen during sleep, again incorrect, or at least misleading, they are abducted when they will be missed the least, this may happen to be during sleep but many are taken during daytime hours while fully awake, you make the assumption that the "Aliens" keep doing experiments on people, that they shouldn't need to keep doing therefore it's nonsense, that is not the working hypothesis and hasn't been for decades because the evidence never held for that, this is the problem with science too many people who know nothing and don't do the research and refuse to look at it, but will stand quite confidently spouting misinformation. Seems to me scientist can always find time and funding for pointless research like how many boiled sweets it takes to choke a kestrel, but won't even look at this subject, that is, in my opinion why the definition of academic is: of no practical use or value.
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
She's not a scientist. This was produced by the liberal arts department, and she's a grad student doing a phd in philosophy. No one said anything about science or scientists in this video.
@kriskirk4505
@kriskirk4505 Рік тому
Ask a cow or a chicken or pig what its like to be abducted for some other species agendas. So has above so has below.
@DrGonzo-jl9wq
@DrGonzo-jl9wq Рік тому
I stopped watching when I read your first assumption✌🏼
@jeffthomas5291
@jeffthomas5291 2 роки тому
I'm a young FEMALE, I believe I KNOW!!!!!
@CRUZEOO
@CRUZEOO Рік тому
its not new those are DJins
@christyofbattlebornbelievers
@christyofbattlebornbelievers 2 роки тому
you have no idea what you are talking about and this is actually harmful!!
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 2 роки тому
But what if these people are experiencing some kind of hallucination? Wouldn't it be harmful to feed into that paranoid hallucination? From a mental health standpoint, that's not recommended. Without any evidence of an abduction, it's only reasonable to assume it's a mental health issue.
@MiguelRodriguez-zd6tq
@MiguelRodriguez-zd6tq 2 роки тому
What a stupid explanation! Alien abductions have been well researched for over a decade by PhDs in several professions, including psychologists, psychiatrists, material scientists, and other fields. They've proven the reality of it, which is quite different from sleep paralysis. Doesn't she realize the implants that have been removed, which are made of iridium and emit radio waves, cannot be explained by sleep paralysis? Could she have a good explanation for that? Also, she should do better research.
@digidali999
@digidali999 Рік тому
Oh yeah, all our experiences are conscious recollection with the exception of some events I didn't know about. My psychiatrist at the time said those were flashbacks and prescribed Stelazine...which was actually the only med I took that helped in some way. It got rid of the flashbacks, at least. So yay Stelazine! 🎉
@kentwood9821
@kentwood9821 Рік тому
Spoken like a true Reptilian 😁
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