This breaks my heart because their poor Aunt made one mistake. I’ve got three kids and I have made many mistakes and have never had them taken away from me. I hope she doesn’t blame herself because she must be so heart sick from what ended up happening to her nephews and niece.

Same - my heart breaks for the children’s aunt, who seems to be an absolutely model citizen and rearranged her life to look after them.

@@kelleeg8838 Same, Kellee - this poor, caring lady made what sounds like one understandable, human mistake… and instead of working with her, the three children go to some strangers. Who abused them and murdered them. Poor, poor Aunt 😔

Let's hope she got good legal advice!

It’s also worth considering that even though we know more of the story, on paper the aunt DID endanger the kids. So in a case she probably wouldn’t stand a chance. I obviously don’t agree with that and know that the kids were so much safer with their aunt than where they ended up. All I’m saying is the “evidence” will say that she did put them in danger and break rules, and that makes it difficult to win a case.

I got major Myka Stauffer vibes from that. (She adopted a disabled Chinese kid, used him to make content and gain followers and sponsors on social media, then "rehomed" him because she got tired of his autism.)

@@SerTasera yes, I remember reading about her on maybe Reddit and being disgusted... The term “rehoming” made me feel physically sick; he’s a human child, not a houseplant or a side table. I also recall that she apparently said he “wasn’t a good fit” for them... surely you would be prepared, prior to adopting, that things wouldn’t necessarily slot neatly into place and you’d go into it willing to work through inevitable difficulties?! That, to me, makes it evident that she used the poor child for her own gain which is beyond sickening.

You nailed it. She wanted to fill the white savior progressive lesbian role. It's so fucking sick and twisted. She nearly got away with it. I think she drove off the cliff thinking they would never been found and it wouldn't have been know she killed them all.

You don't have to be careful.... you are absolutely 💯 right.

100% they wanted to be seen as amazing , but they were probably badly racist also and probably treated them poor kids with racial slurs on the daily

They made things worse for LGBT parents adopting kids, I just know it! Their abuse of those kids just fueled the conservative fire… They are disgusting human beings. Their children didn’t deserve any of this shit!! Fucking infuriating.

You are right I understand because I'm in foster care

Yup

They did crash into the ocean...the Pacific Ocean. He may have swept away.

Wow I never thought of that, his was the only body not found yeah, that makes sense, poor kids

In agreement:-)

I thought exactly the same

I think they killed him pretty sure of it

Wow, that’s a great point, Brookarella - hadn’t thought of it that way. Thanks for this.

good point.

the boy hugged the guy because those two encouraged him to do it, not because he wanted to

Yes, but the length and mans reaction was what got me. Poor baby

@@ajayjackson7727 no, those kids absolutely loved the music, I bet the festivals were a great relief for them, devonte knew Xavier, many of the artists did, jen made sure of that. But they were genuine connections and love in those friendships. Jen was so evil and good at hiding her true ways. Sarah was complicit, Jen is the real monster

I think Devonte took most of the abuse and unfortunately I think he took it willingly to save the others. Normally in a group of kids being abused there's always one or two who willfully take the abuse to spare the other children. I think these monsters became jealous of him because he became well known around the world after the picture of him hugging the officers & weeping. Remember the "working" mother mainly loved attention hence the staged photos, etc. She probably was angry that he started to get attention and not her. I remember my boyfriend stated "The photo looked like the child's soul was weeping for genuine love & protection" He said he felt weird when he looked at the photo. Jesus.....This story is so heartbreaking and to think these news programs had this little boy's picture with him hugging the officer everywhere but strangely I never heard them report on this part of his life. As a matter of fact I always wondered how he was doing and then all of a sudden I had been watching true crime videos/analysis on UKposts and it lead me to many videos about him but out of all of them I've seen her analysis was perfect. God bless! 😊

@@ajayjackson7727 I disagree. When he hugged that guy as I stated in a previous comment my boyfriend even said it was like the child's soul was weeping! That hug was different & you can see his soul was tired. It's just sad.

His daughter was pretty awesome too

Decent human being, God bless him.

@@MsLB-lm9mu She should get a better husband though. If my bf told me not to get involved and report child abuse, I’d be single that second. (He wouldn’t because we both question why no one spoke up on our behalves as kids ourselves.)

Very caring.... Thank you sir!

I feel for the guy, he definitely has some sort of trauma from this experience. Imagine how he felt knowing what happened to them..

A perfect example of that quote " The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

Wow...I never considered that possibility. That is totally plausible.

@@gwenjackson8583 makes you think when they found 1 of the little girls 4days later and everyone else was accounted for except him. Be Safe n Be Lucky Gwen 😉✌️

That's exactly what I was thinking- the overpunishing him resulted in his death which pushed those two into murdering the rest of the children. Have the authorities searched the entire estate with the cadaver dogs?

Excellent point - I’m going to see if I can find anything online about when he was last seen alive.

@@MissIncorrigibleOfOz Good Idea. Please let me know if you find out anything interesting. Be Safe.. Be Lucky.. ✌️

The bio. parent has first responsibility

@@bluejacketau5777 They were harsher on their bio family than these strangers. They only look good on paper, until yanno she got charged for beating the child.

Someone on here posed the question, did they go too far in their “punishment” and kill him? Then get rid of his body? It would make sense why the did the murder suicide thing. This is just so sad, I hope the son in law learned his lesson, you always error on the side of the kids, you call the police to investigate.

I think they brutally beat him. Probably at home after finding out about the food from the neighbors.They killed him, panick escalated, they said screw it, let's end it all.

@@amberghinni 😣

It's still very much there.

@@fredfletcher9966 unfortunately, it will always be there. 😔

Yes I'm so proud of her for telling the truth.

People need to wake up and see that adoption is for white people by white people. And ones with money at that. "Its as simple as that". We need to value family preservation more than we value the wants and needs of (mostly white) people who can't have kids. We'd still need a form of adoption, but we wouldn't see shit like this ^ happening!

Oh exactly! This story always gets me too since I was in a similar situation but I was the parent. My child’s father died when my daughter was only 8 mos old. He has a very narcissistic mother who apparently, planned from the get-go to take my daughter from me. After my mother passed away, I had to live with her and she invited us there. It’s just a long story but basically, she prepared an entire case against me and made up a bunch of lies and took me to court on an emergency guardianship hearing and told them she didn’t know where I lived and I never received the subpoena, so of course I didn’t show up. In fact, the day of the hearing, I was at her home with my daughter who had stayed home from school sick and I was doing house work for the woman cuz she asked me to! Yeah! Then, 2 days later, I get a paper from the court AT HER ADDRESS saying I lost custody and as soon as she got the check, she kicks me out so of course, then I’m homeless! Little white innocent grandma. Boo hoo. I have a documented history of drug use so of course I’m screwed, EVEN THOUGH THE WOMAN ABUSES PILLS AND DRINKS HALF A GALLON OF WINE A NIGHT! I make all of these known, but since she has a prescription for the medication, I can’t very well prove to them that I know she’s buying them from one of her friends RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY DAUGHTER. Sick. So I end up back in treatment and in a shelter just proving my sobriety. And ALL ALONG…. I AM WATCHING MY DAUGHTER ALONE AND AT HER HOME AND EVEN TELLING THEM THIS BUT NOT ONCE DID SHE GET CHECKED ON!!! So, yeah- that part DEFINITELY hit home for me!!! It took me 2 freakin years and an expensive attorney but I FINALLY got her back. The hoops I had to jump thru were absolutely ridiculous! So, when I of all people heard what happened to this poor auntie and those innocent kids, it broke my heart! And you’re absolutely 100% right…. Why was little old white granny not getting checked into - EVEN THOUGH I LITERALLY TOLD THE SOCIAL WORKER! I told her that my daughter was sick and I was staying with her and she acted surprised like, “Childcare is her grandmother’s responsibility. I don’t understand????” And I literally told her that woman has absolutely no interest in my child’s well-being and clearly whatever she said about me was a lie! Cuz here I am! And here I will continue to be cuz she’s my child and I love her! No “check ins” for Grammy tho! (I read her e-mails to the lady and she absolutely WAS just saying wild stuff about me, but NO ONE CHECKED. The system is broken and they absolutely judge people based on race, age and the like.

I hope the family goes after the people/system who were supposed to protect those kids. I hope the mandated reporters who knew what was going on and did nothing, are no longer allowed to be in a position that involves anyone vulnerable because they are just as bad the "parents" who adopted them to feed their ego by abusing and murder them when they were not happy with results of their abuse. Maybe if case workers/ other mandated reporters who did nothing, gets charged with willful neglect and criminal abandonment which resulted in murder and had to receive punishment for their role in the matter, things will start to change. Idk I don't have answers, but I do know if anyone showed up at 2 am, crying and panicked enough to jump from 2nd story window just to get away, knowing full well if they get caught..that it may result in a situation that even the fear of a compound fracture is not worst thing that may happen that night...hell the abuser is gonna have to call the cops cause I'm gonna throw down with all of my five cast iron skillets and I bite. That kid ain't going anywhere unless I'm dead or arrested and by then I've already called for backup ( I got more than a few friends who would also risk life and limb to protect an abuse victim) and started cooking so I hope they've prepared for war. And I expect nothing less from anyone I willingly keep in my life. Anything less would just be unacceptable.

I felt so bad for her the bio Aunt. She had everything fixed up, the rooms and it was one mistake. One and to take them and adopt them out when I think there was a better way to handle that. I get their mom want supposed to be there but I just think there was a better way to handle it than to remove the kids and adopter me out. They had a family who wanted them. There had to have been a better way to deal w that esp for the kids cos I do think it was in the best interest of the kids to stay w her and I’m their family unit. The mother also from what I understood had a drug problem. That can be helped. This whole thing really upset me. I would wake up every morning and look for updates. So wanted some of them to have ran off. This case really really got to me. And I still feel like there’s so much we do t know. There’s sonothing just very off about this couple clearly but …I don’t know it seems like they were hiding more, but hiding what they did hide is bad enough. The Jennifer woman seems like a drunk and I wondered at one point if Sarah wasn’t being abused as well. Not that it would excuse anything. I just wondered bc it seems like Jennifer was controlling and i read she got her degree and the other didn’t, but she was made to take the abuse charge. Why? Wouldn’t that effect her ability to get a teaching job. Why did she never get one. I’ve worked retail before. It tone off my longest job. It isn’t paying bills and it’s thankless and you stand all day and Christmas is ruined. But you can barely care for the two of them with those wages and the Jennifer was drunk at home all day not homeschooling. Granted they had all the money from those kids so, there’s that. Not like it was being used on them. It sounds awful. I mean they had no beds.

@@christinafidance340 God bless you!

I will do exactly that. Thankyou for your recommendation. Em xx

I remember this tragedy but don’t remember the obvious ultra-control-freak closet alcoholic. I will have to research a bit, so thanks for bringing it back into my awareness... I really thought it could have had something to do with her medical issue (maybe tooth or something) but my recollection on the case isn’t crystal clear. ❤️

That case haunts me. I was traumatised after watching that documentary. Those poor kids calling for help 😭

Oh her family knows damn well that she was a drink and that she was drunk AF the morning she killed the kids. They are just playing dumb to avoid being sued by the victims, especially the husband. He could've faced charges for being neglectful and for allowing her to drive while drunk so the only thing he can do now is play dumb.

i think they genuinely didn't know. i was a high functioning heroin addict for years and no one knew. i will say however that i didn't drive even once in that period. when i did get in a situation that i had a chance to fly a small plane, i detoxed beforehand and used again afterwards (i wasn't trying to quit until i did).

Hell is real and that’s their fate, God is a just God. They aren’t free! While they’re begging for help, God will turn his ears

It must be unbelievably painful. Not sure how a person could ever get over it

Money and racism when it comes down to it

They earned loads of money to assist those two play their game with innocent lives and assisted in their murders deaths. Who else is Profiting from that.

Truly heinous. OTOH this young woman dodged a massive bullet.

Really? How do you know that?

@@veganandlovingit I remember hearing that it was hard to identify one of the women because of what the OP said. The truck slipped while being pulled up and a body fell out and onto the rocks. Imagine dropping a watermelon from a few stories up. 🤷‍♂️

Good.

Ooh nooo

I’m sure there is an interview somewhere. During research I found some thing but no photos of her. Em x

@@EmmaKennyTV I will have a look, thank you x

Two years past... yet... I hope you are healing... and able to break the cycle... and luv... 57 here... same... same...

Right! So not very Thelma & Louis of them.

Control

Because the children would have gone on to tell the truth about how evil they truly were.. and being the abusive control freaks that they were.. they couldn’t allow the truth to ever come out about them. They wanted to have the ultimate control of the children by ending their lives. They were too evil to allow the children to be happy without them x

@@lynne1517 completely agree

That’s always my first thought when these awful stories come out. If you are so unhappy, just go somewhere and do what you’re gonna do, leave the children, girlfriend, spouse, whomever be. Makes you want to dig them up and slap the crap out of them.

It was very much intentional my lovely. Didn’t want to cause distress for anyone .Em x

I think it's the combo of the lack of letting people close enough to see... And them being so concerned with appearance that they won't let it be seen by others. They would hide it behind doors and lie

I know this comment is months old but I just want to say my heart truly breaks that you went through that. Thank you for sharing your experiences and I hope that you are doing well. All the love and healing to you.

I'm so sorry you went through that. I was adopted within my race, but I never had the same mentality and I was neurodivergent in a neurotypical family. Also belittled, othered, abused. But I cannot imagine the added weight of being taken from your culture, being reminded you don't belong by simply looking in the mirror. Having your ethnicity used as an insult when you are just a child, learning about yourself and the world. People who grow up with their families don't understand how important cultural and biological roots are. I do know that, so my heart breaks for you, and for the little child in you that deserved the world but instead suffered by the hands of sick, broken people 💔 I'm so glad to hear you're still here. You're not alone. I'm also a mum and moving on. It's all we can do. Much love xo

You two have been given awful circumstances but taken EXACTLY what you should from it. Right now pat yourselves on the back for being the ones to not only break the cycle but raise children who can thrive without interruption from day one. No one should be pressured to be grateful for being adopted. No child deserves less than an environment of love and safety to grow up in. The fact that you didn’t have that for yourselves but give it to your children shows that nothing was ever wrong with you in the first place. You’re doing life how it needs to be done. You can be proud of that.

I'm sorry for what you experienced, also Plamodon Works. I plan to adopt or foster in the future & have no problems with taking an older child or teenager. It wouldn't matter to me what the child's race was but, living in a very non ethnically diverse area, I don't know if I'd be the best person to take a child of colour, for example. I would strive to further educate them on their culture, which I'd want them to be aware of, identify with & be proud of; I wouldn't want a child to feel that they'd been wrongly placed & stuck out because of their cultural heritage. My priority is what is best for a child who needs a home. I want to do them justice & provide everything they need.

I think it was more about that their not only white, but also gay and that the children were pretty grown-up when they got adopted. And if you have a family part who is able and willing to take the children, so they should stay there.

I'm so sorry you experienced that I am happy that you have overcome the trauma and I am forever in your corner

Also, are both women sadists? Psychopaths? Narcissists? For sure monsters but I'm curious what the hell was wrong with them.

Those two they built their house lives house on quick Sand.