Alcohol Stove Experiment ? : Goshawk OP-100 Vs Trangia B25 Vs Aluminium Can..

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Goshawk Website: OP-100
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Amendment: I have made a claim that the Goshawk OP-100 was 85 gm in total. But I didn't realise at the time that there was still methylated spirits in the baffle which cannot be seen in the centre of burner. It helps to shake the burner to see if there is still methylated spirits in the burner. The amended weight is 70gm / 2.5 oz total for body and lid
Trangia Website:
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Aluminium Can:
Nearest service station or supermarket.
Description:
In this video, we're putting three popular camping stoves to the test: the classic Trangia alcohol burner, the powerful Goshawk OP-100, and a DIY aluminum can stove.
⌛️ We'll be comparing the run times and boil times of each stove to help you choose the perfect cooking companion for your outdoor adventures. Whether you're a seasoned camper or a beginner, this comprehensive comparison will give you valuable insights into the performance of these stoves.
⚙️ Trangia Alcohol Burner:
The tried-and-true Trangia has been a favorite among outdoor enthusiasts for years. Watch as we measure its run time and boil time to see how it holds up against the competition.
🔥 Goshawk OP-100:
Known for its power and efficiency, the Goshawk OP-100 is a formidable contender in the camping stove arena. Discover if it outshines the Trangia and how it performs in real-world scenarios.
🌐 DIY Aluminum Can Stove:
For the DIY enthusiasts out there, we've crafted a simple aluminum can stove to see how it stacks up against the commercial options. Is the homemade solution a viable alternative for budget-conscious campers?
📊 Throughout the video, we'll provide detailed data on run times, boil times, and fuel efficiency, helping you make an informed decision on which stove suits your camping needs best.
👀 Don't miss the exciting side-by-side comparisons and in-depth analysis that will help you make the right choice for your next outdoor cooking adventure. Hit the like button, subscribe, and let's dive into the world of camp stoves together!
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@g-r-a-e-m-e- 3 місяці тому

I feel that a simmering ring is crucial, and for that reason alone, that makes Trangia the best.

@bushgearreview 3 місяці тому

It's hard to beat atm😊

@MadMadCommando 2 місяці тому

It’s also made of brass which is extremely important for the camping aesthetic

@wayneberry8703 3 місяці тому

Great review and well done 👍🏼. I like them all… I have a Trangia and love it.

@bushgearreview 3 місяці тому

Thankyou😊 Trangia is a classic, hard to beat. I will not stop looking, though, lol.

@QuantumMechanic_88 Місяць тому

I have the Trangia , Svea and knockoffs. The best alcohol stoves in the collection are made from 2 aluminum beer cans. Thanks for your comparison video. All the best.

@georgelstuart 2 місяці тому

When I clicked on the video I thought you were using a classic "coke can alcohol stove" with top and bottom, with jet holes. that seems like a better comparison because that is what people actually use

@bushgearreview 2 місяці тому

I wanted to show how effective an open Coke can really is, as opposed to manufactured engineered products.

@maxlutz3674 3 місяці тому

I have a few Trangias and a couple of cat can stoves. I really like the Trangia as it allows to keep unused fuel easily and the simmer ring is good for cooking and allows to extinguish without burning the seal. When used with the cook kit wind resistance is not so important. The kit provides an excellent wind shield. The cat can stove is light weight, cheap and incorporates the pot stand. One rides in my car in case I want to boil some water for a coffee. It also served me well at home during a power outage.

@bushgearreview 3 місяці тому

👍😊 Do you have any problems with your Trangia rubber o-ring shrinking a little and falling out. I do love having the Trangia charged and ready to go and coupled with simmer ring provides some variable versatility. Can stoves are amazing given their ultra low price. The best stove is the one you have at the time😊.

@maxlutz3674 3 місяці тому

@@bushgearreview No I don´t. My 30+ years old burner of a Trangia 25 kit even has its original o-ring. For maintenance I clean the o-ring and apply a very small amount of silicon grease to it once or twice a year. The ring should feel dry after application. Excess grease can clog the nozzles. I do that as maintenace with other gear like torches too.

@bushgearreview 3 місяці тому

Thanks for the tip, I might give it a try👍

@gonagain 2 місяці тому

The yellow flame tells me that you're using isopropyl alcohol. If that's the case then you'll really like the difference that denatured alcohol makes! It burns hotter and cleaner.

@bushgearreview 2 місяці тому

I am using methylated spirits, which could be the bittering agents/chemicals giving a yellow flame. My understanding is that methylated spirits(metho) is denatured alcohol, but with the addition of bittering agents added to stop people from drinking the spirit.

@a.b.4824 Місяць тому

@@bushgearreviewThe best fuel imho (also concerning health issues) is not methanol (CH4O) but ethanol (C2H6O). Burns blue and hot and is relatively cheap too

@bikeradam 3 місяці тому

I have one that looks like that trangia, but it has 3 crowns, NC68, and svea on the bottom. It came in a cool looking cook kit with the same markings. Even has a bottle with some funny writing on it. I got it at goodwill for $5

@bushgearreview 3 місяці тому

That's a bargain 😊

@fallyn2920 2 місяці тому

That is a Trangia, but made especially for the Swedish armed forces. It's a beloved and good piece of kit. The three crowns signify the Swedish army. They're a bit different by design. Still Trangia.

@TheAgentDeus 6 днів тому

like @fallyn2920 said, 3 crowns means it's from Swedish military, I do not know the difference between current one and military one since I do not have them side by side but I have used both of them. I know that the one I used in military, didn't have extra lid for simmering.

@dasta7658 2 місяці тому

I go back and forth on the alcohol stoves. I take the alcohol stove out for day hikes but go back to gas for overnight or longer hikes. I tried Kero for a test but found MS to be better. Thanks for taking the time to do the tests and thanks for posting it!

@bushgearreview 2 місяці тому

I am glad to hear you go back and forth because that's how I feel. I can not make up my mind, lol. Having said that, it's great to have choices and then go on how you feel.

@peterdd4994 3 місяці тому

I suspect that your over filling the Goshawk stove if it has problems blooming in under that minute time frame., I tend to use 30mls as the go to volume of fuel. Re the Trangia vs the Esbit stove - they are muchly the same for flame / heat output with a slight more efficiency to the Esbit but only just... PS Goshawk do make a simmer cap. AZ1 module for Era burner

@bushgearreview 3 місяці тому

Yes, the goshawk was overfilled @ 40ml. It shows how little the Goshawk's capacity is. Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the Goshawk(i do enjoy using it and watching the helix flames), but it lacks capacity as opposed to the trangia. I thought I saw a simmer cap for the Goshawk but was sold out?. I haven't seen the Esbit alcohol stoves.

@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 2 місяці тому

I love the simplicity of the Swirling flame stove and the stand it comes with makes it a very simple and light package which is really efficient. The stand for the swirling flame actually fits on the trangia but you then obviously can't use the simmer ring. The trangia certainly is more adaptable, I recently bought a triangle for it, makes it a great set-up for one pot cooking - but for ultralight trips the Goshawk wins hands down. I also have a goshawk ERA burner, that thing is like a rocket, boils very quickly, but putting it out is scary! (pretty easy with a bit of damp rag). Thanks for the effort of doing this, appreciate it

@bushgearreview 2 місяці тому

Thankyou Do you have the AZ-100 stand (I have ordered it but waiting on delivery). I am keen to try it out with the swirling flame. The Goshawk ERA burner has a simmer ring?

@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 2 місяці тому

@@bushgearreview yes the AZ 100 stand - and no the goshawk doesn't have a simmer ring but if you use the AZ100 stand with the trangia you can't use the simmer ring. One of the reasons I bought the trangia triangle is so I can use the simmer ring and use a bigger pot - just bought an MSR 13L ceramic pot, which is non-stick, I want to do more one-pot meals instead of buying dried food meals or boil-in-the-bags - and I guess that is a downside to the swirling flame or ERA burner is that they aren't really suitable for bigger pots, but are awesome for lightweight trips. The other bonus to the Trangia triangle is that trangia now does a gas stove that fits in the triangle (there are amazon knock-offs as well), makes the trangia set up very adaptable.

@bushgearreview 2 місяці тому

Thankyou for your detailed information. I will look more into the Trangia triangle. I know they are quite expensive, at least in Australia to my knowledge.

@viewsandreviews180 2 місяці тому

Thank you for sharing an interesting comparison and theory. Efficiency in fuels is usually determined by volume per time to temperature. In that case the trangia would be slightly more efficient than the other designs tested because of its faster time to boil. I believe most alcohol burners are used with a wind screen so wind resistance isn’t a major concern for most users. That said I prefer the trangia for several other reasons; the heat can be regulated, I already own a few and the trangia knockoffs are much cheaper than any goshawk model I’ve seen. Thus making a trangia easier to purchase for more people interested in alcohol burners. In an interest to be forthcoming most of the time I use a wood burner of some sort when I’m in the forest because I don’t have to carry the fuel it uses and rightly or wrongly I feel I’m cleaning debris from the forest. Keep up the good work.

@bushgearreview 2 місяці тому

Thankyou 😊 I agree that most people would be using windscreens. The Trangia sure is hard to beat. I love burning timber mainly but have really fallen in love with alcohol stoves lately.

@viewsandreviews180 2 місяці тому

@@bushgearreview I understand that. Alcohol burns much cleaner than wood thus not sooting and creosoting the outside of pots. I’ve found rubbing the outside of my pots with bar soap before use over a wood fire to help with cleaning though. The straining can be thought of as “love marks” though lol.

@bushgearreview 2 місяці тому

I might try rubbing bar soap on my pots.👍😊

@bangalorebobbel Місяць тому

Nice comparision yet I think the coke can was a bit in disadvantage because the burners were placed all at the same height but the coke can's flame comes in that test deeper than one of the other two. That might make quite a bit of a difference since the distance of the flame to the pot counts. Else I would suggest to maybe also test, one day, the Swiss Army Notkocher M71, which consists of a simple tin with a lid and a little stand put on top of the can in order to form a complete stove. It comes usually with alcohol gel but can be refilled with alcohol (or gel, of course). It is in fact one of my favourite alcohol stoves, followed by my DIY beer can alcohol burners and finally the Trangia ...

@bushgearreview 29 днів тому

I am going to have to look into the M71. Looks good😊

@bangalorebobbel 28 днів тому

@@bushgearreview yes give it a try, I can imagine that you might go to like it from first sight ... Sharing a little bit from my experience: You can always refill that stove with gel fuel or simply with alcohol (that's what I do normally). If you don't burn the whole gel content down but only up to 50% or so, adding alcohol and stirring leads again to gel, which will become with every refill more liquid, of course. If the seal doesn't do its job anymore, you can simply put a piece of a plastic bag or so in between can and lid, it helps. And apropos seal: better use your mug to kill the flame and not the lid, and wait for a while to let the can cool down, as the heat might affect the seal.

@RicMor200 2 місяці тому

Great video, thanks for sharing. I love alcohol stoves, and own a few, but have never owned a Trangia. I find it unnecessarily heavy, and looks too old-school for my taste. My top favorite burners are the Goshawk swirling OP 100, the Toaks Siphon, and the Trail Designs 12-10. They all have their pros and cons. The Siphon is faster but less fuel efficient. The Goshawk is more efficient but slower and a little heavier, however it’s the best looking of all and has a cap to keep leftover fuel. The 12-10 is the lightest, and I got separately a simmer ring that works great, but it’s the most delicate of the three. If you step on it by accident, it’s over… you’ll be cooking on open fire, assuming there’s dry wood around.

@bushgearreview 2 місяці тому

Thankyou 😊 I am really enjoying the alcohol stove journey. I will have to look into the toaks that you mentioned.

@nathnjac5444 2 місяці тому

Good job mate. Thanks for sharing. If the trangia was regulated I am guessing it will come closer to Goshawk in reduced fuel use

@bushgearreview 2 місяці тому

Thankyou 😊 The Trangia simmer ring comes in handy for regulating and conserving.

@Sokol10 3 місяці тому

Aluminum can did very well for their cost. 😉 If that flaps are folded for inside probable will be more efficient, due the capillarity effect against the wall.

@bushgearreview 3 місяці тому

It sure surprised me. Good point. I might have to try folding the flaps the other way.😊

@Rob_65 16 днів тому

Good overview. I go back and forth between white spirit, alcohol and gas burners. I love my Trangia and the simmering ring, that allows me to drop the flame to a level where there is not to much flaming around the pot (wasted energy). I have also seen people using different percentages of alcohol (91, 97 and 99.9%). Less alcohol also reduces the flame and I am curious to test myself what the impact on the amount of used fuel and the cooking time is.

@bushgearreview 16 днів тому

Does less alcohol burn cleaner?

@Rob_65 16 днів тому

@@bushgearreview I had to rush to the shop to get a new burner, the old one was used with Dutch "brandspiritus" which contains a blue color. The new burned burns without any soot. I tried bio-ethanol (> 95%) and the same with 10% water. The bio ethanol hardly gives any soot and when I rub the botom of my pan with a piece of white tissue, I only see a little bit of soot coming off. The diluted version does not show any soot. As a plus, the golden-brown discoloring that I get on my titanium pan is less with the diluted ethanol. The diluted version burns a bit longer but it also takes a bit longer to cook the water. Logic tells me it's about 10% more 😉

@Rob_65 16 днів тому

@@bushgearreview I forgot to mention this is in line with what is written in the instructions. The plastic bag the Trangia came in reads: "To avoid sooting, dilute the fuel with 10 or max. 15% water"

@jtnachtlauf1961 2 місяці тому

Hello. The test wasnt fair to the aluminium can - it was too low under the pot. ;) Try to hold the pot cca 1 inch above and the water should boil more quickly. Greetings.

@robertcooper2427 2 місяці тому

Hi I have used Trangia stoves for many years in the UK. As sealevel and mountain top, in the worst weather you can imagine and it has never let me down. Have never found a stove that works so well in high winds. A fantastic bit of design, why would you take anything else

@bushgearreview 2 місяці тому

That's good to hear 😊. What sort of pot stand/ wind shield do you use?

@markraciborski4289 2 місяці тому

You need a simmer ring to put out the flame. Using the cap with destroy the O ring, silicone seal. Flames and heat aren't something you want to constantly apply to them. That said, is a silicone seal better an O ring, for leaking, tightness?

@bushgearreview 2 місяці тому

You are right. Don't use the cap to put out the flame. I must admit that the rubber oring has suffered because of this. Filming and talking, things get out of hand, lol. In theory, silicone should be better, but time will tell.

@walkerone9833 2 місяці тому

Nice vid. I prefer the trangia design and carry it with two Esbit cubes inside. Two rocks and you have a pot stand.

@bushgearreview 2 місяці тому

Thankyou😊 I am going to have to try hexamine in the future. Esbit from what I can see here in Australia is very $$$$.

@FurtiveSkeptical 8 днів тому

Esbit cubes are sooty and they stink. Methanol/Ethanol is the way to go for cheap, clean flame.🇨🇦

@galatians328 3 місяці тому

I'll take the Trangia. But the reality is... it all comes down to whether or not you have the fuel and enough of it to do everything that needs to be do. Which in my neck of the woods means keeping me warm both day and night.

@jamesarchibald852 3 місяці тому

Damper is for priming the stove. if you rap a flat lamp wick in the bottom you will get a better burn. down fall is black soot if alcohol is too low and burns wick. still a better burn by far.

@bushgearreview 3 місяці тому

I will have to look further into wicks😊

@siangteikteoh Місяць тому

For weight weenies, you have to include total weight of each stove to the weight of fuel used to boil 500ml water in so many minutes , the alum can wins cos of its lighter weight which translates into being able to carry more fuel and thus boil more ml of water...so an accurate test for thru hikers/weight weenies etc is say, for a given weight of 100gms total (stove without lid plus fuel,) how many ml of water can that combination boil in how many minutes? So if alum can is 5 gms compared to trangia 68 gms goshawk 72 gms, the alum can is allowed 95 gms fuel, whilst trangia is allowed 32 gms fuel, goshawk is allowed 28gms fuel, so the alum can will probably be more weight efficient in that it can boil many more cups of water for a given total system weight. And even if you accidentally step on the alum can and squash it, i usually carry some spare backups at 5 gms each, not a problem, or cut a new one out of any old can lying around..i usually cut the top off a coke can and use that to "cup" the 300ml plastic fuel bottle as a protector, that extra empty coke can can be used as drinking water cup or cut into new stove if necessary..

@bushgearreview Місяць тому

Thankyou for taking the time to write an informative comment that makes a lot of sense.😊