WATCH This Before You Buy An Alcohol Stove - 11 Tests - 7 Alcohol Stoves WHICH IS THE BEST ONE?

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In this Camping Stove Review, I test multiple Alcohol / Spirits Stoves. I love camping stoves and these tests really show which one is the best. Which Stove would you choose?
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I USE THE FOLLOWING ALCOHOL STOVES IN THESE TESTS
✅Stoves Used in the video✅
Trangia Alcohol Burner - amzn.to/40LYG7n
Esbit Alcohol Burner - amzn.to/3YmOiRV
Boundless Voyage Titanium Spirit Alcohol - amzn.to/3IeSUnN
Boundless Voyage Camping Alcohol Stove low - amzn.to/40K7SJy
Mini Alcohol Stove Stainless Steel - amzn.to/3JW4Tro
Lixada Portable Mini Aluminum - amzn.to/3HIdMSQ
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Jetboil Stash Stove - amzn.to/3jQNQfV
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Time Codes
0:00 - 7 Alcohol Stoves. WHICH ONE IS BEST?
1:20 - Priming Stove Explained
2:35 - Fuel Efficiency Explained
3:00 - What Tests have I Done
3:29 - Perfect Flame Hight For Stove
4:10 - BRS far infrared heat cover
4:50 - The Stoves I Used
6:55 - The 1st Test - Priming
7:50 - Priming Test Conclusion
9:02 - Fuel Efficiency Test
10:10 - Fuel Efficiency Test Conclusion
11:00 - Boil Test Explained
11:22- Traingia Boil Test
11:55 - Esbit Boil Test
12:25- Boundless Voyage Low Boil Test
12:52 - Boundless Voyage High Boil Test
13:35 - Stainless Steal Boil Test
13:59 - Lixada Boil Test
14:35 - Xboil Boil Test
15:02 - The Results
17:50 - Conclusion

КОМЕНТАРІ: 174

@soletrail Рік тому

Hey Adventurers. 👋 If you want to support me please hit the "like button"👍 For some reason it really makes a big positive impact on the channel. Massive thank you for all the support. I appreciate you all 🙂 Stay safe on the hills. Big Thank. Martin 🙌

@jonfisher9214 2 місяці тому

One point to add is the function of the Trangia simmer ring. Putting the simmer ring on (fully opened) doubles the burn time while halving the fuel being used. Half closing it gives four times the burn time and reduces fuel to a quarter. I found that very useful when taking my family camping and cooking dinner on two Trangia stoves at once.

@soletrail 2 місяці тому

Great idea. I must try that.

@questions6746 7 місяців тому

The bloom/prime speed is mainly dictated by wether or not the burner has any wicking inside. Many knock off's do not. * Boil time starts the moment we light it. Because priming time all contributes to the boil anyway. * Priming fuel is not wasted if you put water on at the beginning. * To measure efficiency we must count runout time or fuel left over after boil. * The faster it consumes fuel = the faster it burns = the quicker it boils = the shorter the runout time... as long as everything else in the test is the same. * The overall performance is what is important. Not the priming time. * Some of the most efficient performers do not even have nozzles. * They all perform better when they get hotter. * Do your own tests. You will see........

@Trains-With-Shane 15 днів тому

This mirrors what I was about to post as well. I don't wait for a stove to prime before I get the pot on to boil. So for me the "bloom time" really doesn't matter at all. What I want to know is how long i takes from the second I light it till I get the boil. And peripherally how much fuel was used during that time.

@garyhyndman1105 3 місяці тому

Thanks for taking the time out to do this. Appreciated.

@kencornine8787 4 місяці тому

I am just delving into all of this, and stumbled upon this video. Very interesting and very informative. I watched til the end and subscribed. Thank you!

@Gelaina 6 місяців тому

Great thorough video. Very helpful.

@stummj99 6 місяців тому

Superb video. Thank you for going to such trouble to do a comprehensive comparison. Im switching to alcohol from gas for a bit to see how I get on with it as I recently had trouble getting gas abroad and alcohol fuel is more readily available. This is the video Ive been looking for! I had the Trangia on my christmas list as we all know how difficult it is to buy for men! But in the meantime I got myself an x-boil as I like the windshield/potstand setup. I was super impressed with it to the extent that Im not sure im going to get the Trangia anymore. We'll see how it performs in the outdoors. On my kitchen worktop its superb. BUT...... in controlled tests similar to yours, the Des Cattys stove performed even better. No idea why. They use a different method of holding the fuel (again safely so no danger of burning fuel going everywhere if its knocked over - the big drawback to any of the Trangia type stoves as far as I can see) X-Boil uses Graphite Felt, Des Cattys uses some sort of insulation material I think. Anyway I found boil time significantly better with Des Cattys so Im taking the DC with an xboil windshield as my next set up. In fact when Im going Ultralight by cook system is literally 600ml Titanium mug, xboil windshield, Des Catty Burner, lighter, fuel, spork. Thats it. Insanely lightweight.

@lenrice7482 Місяць тому

Awesome video with attention to detail - second to none! Thankyou so much for taking the time to do this video.

@soletrail Місяць тому

Appreciate the feedback.. currently editing some more stove videos. Stay tuned. Thanks for the support

@dietersager9969 Рік тому

The best test of all! Great! Thanks very much!

@soletrail Рік тому

Thank you very much. It took a long time to do it. 😂

@DanHuman Рік тому

A very thorough comparison of these stoves. Thanks!

@soletrail Рік тому

Thanks for watching!

@catherineweaver9302 Рік тому

From another alcohol stove nerd, you've missed the Speedster Stove...8gms of sheer sweetness

@soletrail Рік тому

Oooo do tell.. I must check it out. Thanks for the suggestion 😃

@Marwin911 Рік тому

Thx - great vid. What I really like about the Trangia in real-life cooking is the simmering ring (which is also an argument for gas cooking btw). On multi-day hikes that really comes in handy, as many meals will requiring a good amount of reduced heat simmering time. None of the other burners can offer that, which for me makes it well worth carrying the extra weight.

@soletrail Рік тому

Hi Marwin.. thanks for the comment. Great thought on the simmering of the triangia. I actually haven't used that yet to be honest. But I will give it a try next time I'm out. Do you use it much? That video took me forever to make and edit 🤣 I was to far in it to turn back. Its something I'm interested in anyways so that was a help. Have a few more stove set up videos on the way. 🙂🙌

@EspenFrafalne 8 місяців тому

Various titanium burners (like the Evernew and Rover Camel) has a secondary ring of jet holes, which means that you can place the pot directly on the stove, which will block most of the flames, and give a much more moderate heat output. WAY more practical than the awful simmer ring if you ask me... Both the Evernew and Rover Camel comes with a cross stand, which gives quicker boil times than the Trangia, and weighs close to nothing. Total weight of my Rover Camel is 63g/2.22oz (on my scale). As cross stands are incompatible with the simmer ring, the most lightweight option im aware of is the Bushbox Ultralight stand/wood stove (65g/2.29oz on my scale). When you add in a Trangia burner + lid + simmer ring, it totals 177g/6.26oz (on my scale), which is 2.8 times heavier than the Rover Camel setup.

@ervinslens Рік тому

Brilliantly presented bud 🔥🔥

@soletrail Рік тому

Cheers My Friend. 🙌🙌

@wolfgrube 6 місяців тому

That's so funny, these great stoves with the beautiful jets make such a good impression. Then you put a cream container next to it and it holds up well. Perfect video, thank you.

@Z3OffGrid Місяць тому

This was an extremely thorough test. Interesting to see the differences in burn times, giving me ideas. Great video!

@soletrail Місяць тому

Appreciate that ☺️ yeah I was half way recording this and I was way too to far gone to turn back 🤣 that was around 15 hours editing but its something I really wanted to know. In the end I enjoyed it. Have few more comparisons on the way. 👍

@Z3OffGrid Місяць тому

@@soletrail Nice! I will keep an eye out! 👍👍

@carlpolen7437 3 місяці тому

Good video thanks.

@rodstein09 2 місяці тому

Couple things, I love to see these tests, so thank you. I would like to say that I never leave the pot off the stove while priming is happening. Priming happens faster with the pot on, and with some of these stoves the pot may boil before priming is done. For real efficiency, it’s how many times can you boil water on a set amount of fuel. Using your numbers it basically comes that the Xboil can boil four times, and the Tangia three times with the rest fewer than that with 30 mL of fuel.

@siomurchu Рік тому

Excellent comparison video and one I will return to again. Currently on the gas but will try out an alcohol stove this year for sure.

@soletrail Рік тому

Hey Stephen. Yeah I use the gas for multi days. Do check out the alcohol stoves. One thing it will do for you is force you to slow down on the trail. Love that. They take a bit longer but are silent and make you take in your surroundings. Love that. Takes for the comment 🙂. Let me know if you get one. Would love your thoughts on them. 🙌👏

@alanhamilton890 Рік тому

Hi Martin. Well, you put in some massive work for that video. Bet you were editing and re-editing like mad. I have always loved my Trangia. Top notch piece of equipment. I'm interested in that stainless steel one though. Ya might send it on to me if you're never going to use it again LOL. Thanks again for all your work you produce for the benefit of others...

@soletrail Рік тому

Well Pal.. you just summed up the editing. Around 13 hours. Crazy. It's mad.. editing an adventure hike is half that time editing. Anyways your welcome to that stove pal won't be using it. 🙌

@stuartcrane9409 5 місяців тому

Great test one issue you missed is other than just boiling water, which stove can you cook with and vary the heat…the only one is Trangia that’s quality. It’s not always about speed of boil unless that’s all you do and used rehydration

@caniaccharlie Рік тому

Fun video! I want one of those Xboil stoves, looks like that'd be great to carry as a backup. I have the Esbit stove you tested and have no complaints about it. I also have the older sttle Pathfinder stove that holds 4.5 ozs and will burn 1.5 hours at least on that.

@soletrail Рік тому

Hey Charlie. Thanks for the comment ☺️. Yeah the esbit stove is good.. it's just that I have the triangia, I can see the difference but a good stove. Must check out the Pathfinder. sounds interesting.Stoves are a mind field of choices 🤣🤣

@Peter-jo3wt 5 місяців тому

Really enjoyed this test. I actually saved this test to my text messages, so I could come back and give it my full attention. I've never previously considered myself a geek, but I would be interested to know what stoves to your right, you did not consider, and why. I guess I AM a geek🤣👍

@edwarddeleon6211 10 місяців тому

Like was a great video and test on the stoves trangia is the one i use alot alog with the Swedish army mess kit and use it with the GI canteen and i have the Trangia 27 .thanks for sharing

@soletrail 6 місяців тому

Glad to hear you enjoyed the video and the stove test! Trangia stoves are known for their reliability, and it's great to hear that you use them frequently. The combination with the Swedish army mess kit and GI canteen sounds like a practical setup for outdoor cooking. Thanks for sharing, and happy camping with your Trangia gear! 🏕️🔥

@Curlew-Corner 8 місяців тому

I have a Trangia 27 which I love and have just bought an X-boil stove kit which I think I’ll also love - intend to pair it with a Toaks 55ml light titanium pot.

@soletrail 8 місяців тому

Sounds like you're assembling quite the outdoor cooking setup! The Trangia 27 and X-boil stove kit should serve you well for different camping and backpacking scenarios. Pairing them with a Toaks 55ml light titanium pot is a great choice for a compact and lightweight cooking solution. Enjoy your outdoor cooking adventures, and may your meals be delicious! 🏕️🍳🔥

@thomasboulin3775 Рік тому

VERY GOOD JOB

@AlexanderEddy 4 дні тому

I love my Trangia

@jimhamel7864 2 місяці тому

Have you heard of the evernew titanium alcohol stove? Another good one. Thanks for sharing your video, cheers!

@soletrail 2 місяці тому

Thanks Jim.. I have heard of it.. let me check I may even have one.

@jimhamel7864 2 місяці тому

I know there's a lot of stoves to sort through and you can only test so many in 1 video. Keep up the good work, cheers!

@kokopelau6954 9 місяців тому

I'm kind of a do-it-your-selfer and I had an old screwtop little can laying around from some bb's so I hand made a stove using welding felt, a little bit of wire screening to hold it in place. Watching your video I realized I could have just bought one. 31 grams fully assembled, 21 without lid. Mine was kind of free cause all materials were in the house. I love it. My boil time is about same as yours. I've not tested it like you did.

@soletrail 8 місяців тому

That's some serious DIY spirit right there! Creating your own stove using materials you had at home is not only resourceful but also adds that personal touch. It's awesome that you managed to craft a functional stove that's both lightweight and effective. And it's all about enjoying the process, right? Your stove sounds fantastic, and your boil time matching up is a solid testament to your skills. Whether you make your own or go for a pre-made option, the joy is in the journey. Keep rocking that DIY mentality and enjoying those outdoor cooking adventures. If you've got more DIY tales or gear talk, I'm here. Cheers to creative solutions and perfect boil times! 🔥🍃🌟

@kokopelau6954 8 місяців тому

@soletrail I was born in 1947. Lived what they now call a subsistence lifestyle. You either made it or did without. I learned really young how to be a woodsman and DIYer. Did my first solo camp at about 9 years old, not in the backyard. Today my parents would probably have me taken away for child endangerment or some such nonsense, me i just had a good time. Moved to the city when i was in my early teens and got out of the woods habit, been getting back in it the last few years. Sorely missed it. Now my body's a little broke, so i can't do the hard sh!t. Miss it. Just do what I can.

@HillHyker Рік тому

Another great video. Very scientific with tons of information. So much so that I need to look at it again. If you have a light stove that burns hot quick and uses more fuel than a slower heavier one. Then you have the factor in the weight of the extra fuel. Great work. Well done bud.

@soletrail Рік тому

Cheers.. it's a deep rabbit hole I went down 🤣 that bloody video took longer than any adventure hike 🤣🤣

@HillHyker Рік тому

@@soletrail And not a drop of rain to set the mood. 🤣👍

@soletrail Рік тому

@@HillHyker should have done the test in the shower 🤣

@HillHyker Рік тому

@@soletrail Funny, but that wouldn't surprise me. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 It would be a great new concept in UKposts.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234 3 місяці тому

😮😊good interesting test thanks

@soletrail 3 місяці тому

Cheers Quinn. Just gave you a sub as well. Looking forward to checking out your channel 😉

@grantmclachlan1 Місяць тому

Superb, thanks for taking the time and expense to do this. I only have one genuine Trangia and a few cheap alternatives ,seems they are not that cheap in the long run when you take into account their efficiency.

@soletrail Місяць тому

Thanks for the comment. I really enjoyed making it. It did take an age and I was questioning my sanity half way though but I love the results. 😊👍

@viarnay 9 місяців тому

I recently bought the boundless titanium spirit high just for making coffe at home and I can confirm it takes a little long to prime but I spill a little fuel out to make it get hotter faster and works fine to me..

@soletrail 8 місяців тому

Thanks for sharing your experience with the Boundless Titanium Spirit High! It's great to hear that it's working well for your coffee-making needs at home. Your tip about spilling a bit of fuel to help with priming is a clever workaround to speed up the process. Sometimes a little tweak can make all the difference. If you ever want to chat more about gear or share more tips, feel free to reach out. Here's to perfect cups of coffee and enjoyable home brewing! ☕🏡🔥

@IrelandOutdoors Рік тому

Class video Martin, really hit my geek spot as well! I'm a big Trangia fan so I'm real glad it made it into your top 3! I know its heavy but I guess your test confirms the quality that nearly 100 years of use brings! The simmer ring is a great additional feature even if it is a bit fiddley to use, the Esbit ring seems a good idea with the foldout lever. That xboil is really innovative though, tempting me as a lightweight secondary burner to take a long if I needed two stoves for making a larger dinner. Thanks for taking the time to make this one, really valued the comparison Martin!

@soletrail Рік тому

Hey Gary. Big thanks for the comments man. From this video I was sent a Goshawk Rapid Boiler by Goshawk in Australia. Wow is all I have to say. Have a review on it on the way. The simmer function of the triangia is something I have not used yet. Will try it out. That video took stupid hours to make🤣🤣🤣

@IrelandOutdoors Рік тому

@@soletrail Class Martin, looking forward to seeing the stats on the Goshawk!

@soletrail Рік тому

Brig thanks for the Super like Pal. 🙌🙂

@EspenFrafalne 8 місяців тому

Im just gonna spam this on a few simmer ring comments, lol..: Various titanium burners (like the Evernew and Rover Camel) has a secondary ring of jet holes, which means that you can place the pot directly on the stove, which will block most of the flames, and give a much more moderate heat output. WAY more practical than the awful simmer ring if you ask me... Both the Evernew and Rover Camel comes with a cross stand, which gives quicker boil times than the Trangia, and weighs close to nothing. Total weight of my Rover Camel is 63g/2.22oz (on my scale). As cross stands are incompatible with the simmer ring, the most lightweight option im aware of is the Bushbox Ultralight stand/wood stove (65g/2.29oz on my scale). When you add in a Trangia burner + lid + simmer ring, it totals 177g/6.26oz (on my scale), which is 2.8 times heavier than the Rover Camel setup.

@michaeloliver7525 7 місяців тому

really enjoyed the empirical evidence approach - excellent vid thank you! have recently gotten my mitts on a Goshawk era burner - appears to compare very favourably to my previous favourite the Trangia, though havent as yet been as scientific in the testing@@soletrail

@rockykoast7065 Рік тому

Excellent review ! I'm not quite as big a stove nerd as you, but not far off! Lol. First was a hippolito paraffin stove... brilliant stove but heavy...& the flame when priming is a bit dangerous! Been through basic butane gas stoves...used for a long time camping.... don't like the throwaway aspect of gas canisters.. More recently on alcohol stoves...swiss army kit was first...works very well....the case /windbreak supports the trangia (trangia type?) burner. I've bought a few different (cheap) burners- cheap knock-offs from China one came with an aluminium pan support -worked ok for bigger pans but was useless for a mug (too big a gap) until I bought separately a support that fits directly on the trangia type burner...also fits very neatly inside the other support...so my ideal for now. I made a burner from a sweetcorn tin can that will boil enough for a brew very quickly or make a coffee sitting my Italian style expresso maker directly on it in 2 & half to 5 minutes. (Would be VERY dangerous to knock over as it would spill burning fuel!!). I like the look if the X boil!

@soletrail Рік тому

A person who has the same stove fetish as me 😂😂 I must check out the Swiss army kit. You are so right about the gas canisters. Such a waist. I only use them for multiday trips and have a refill adapter. The X Boil is brilliant. Such a great little design. Leo from Xboil is a Gent. Great to deal with. I just put up a video on the Goshawk Era burner. Amazing stove. You will like it. Thank you for the detailed comment. A great read 👏👍🙂

@hoser7706 6 місяців тому

No Toaks Siphon? Great review.

@gearhead-do1xh 9 місяців тому

That's good the review I think I'll stick to the original trangia. Just picked up the 25-23 Duossal so I'll probably just use the fireboxstove 5"gen2 with my extra trangia for non backpacking trips. Thanks for the cool review. 🎉

@soletrail 9 місяців тому

Appreciate that 🙂 I was half way through this review and it was too late to turn back 😂 took me ages to record. I enjoyed it thou 🙂 nice choice of stoves. You should have a look at the Goshawk. Impressive

@ericcook8422 7 місяців тому

I appreciate your efforts. I'm thinking triangia.

@soletrail 7 місяців тому

You're very welcome! Choosing a Triangia stove is a great choice for outdoor cooking. Triangia stoves are known for their durability and reliability. They're especially popular among hikers and campers who appreciate their simplicity and ability to work well in various conditions. If you decide to go with a Triangia stove, make sure to check the specific model and accessories that suit your needs and cooking preferences. Happy cooking on your outdoor adventures! 🏕️🍳🔥

@rthompson884 2 місяці тому

I use the trangia for the most part for quick trips.

@bechilled3875 Рік тому

X boil type great, however I did similar test with one extra test. Popped 50ml in X boil type and Trangia, did same test as you on boil time, but then blew out. Let cool and redid test. Trangia loads fuel left, but the other type stuggled, all I can imagine is that in this type the left over fuel evaporates. So on that basis wasted fuel. Spoke to Mr Rambling On about this, think he found similar. Maybe wrong as my test was just for me and not high tech like yours lol. Great video yet again. Cheers

@bechilled3875 Рік тому

When I said I redid test once cooled, I meant without adding anymore fuel.

@soletrail Рік тому

Thanks for sharing. There is so many tests you can do isn't there. Its a rabbit hole 😂

@tomnoyb8301 8 місяців тому

Got Capillary? A well-made Capillary-Stove burns both most efficiently and fastest due to its very slight pressure advantage. A small but crucial pressure builds in the chamber between the fuel and capillary burn. That tiny pressure produces a hotter, more efficient blue-flame.

@soletrail 8 місяців тому

I don't have a Capillary-Stove, but your description of its efficiency and the advantages of the slight pressure advantage make it sound quite appealing! The concept of that tiny pressure creating a hotter, more efficient blue flame is intriguing. It's always interesting to learn about different stove technologies for outdoor adventures. 😊🔥

@georgius78 11 місяців тому

Best video ever !!!

@soletrail 11 місяців тому

Appreciate that pal 👍👍

@ernieschatz3783 Рік тому

Very comprehensive testing. I have a Trangia knickoff, but may well pick up the real thing after seeing this. The prime time is vastly different.

@soletrail Рік тому

Yes I was shocked by how fast it primed. It's worth buying. 🙂

@thedaftestnameicouldthinko8233 Рік тому

I’ve only tried my X Boil in the housing that came with it. The speed was OK but I was very impressed by how much meths was left. It seemed highly fuel efficient. Which makes me wish you had weighed the stoves before and after to find out how much each stove used to get the job done. I may do that myself for my stove but I don’t have many to compare it with. With gas and meths, old stoves still work well, and a couple of mine are ancient, but modern stoves seem more efficient. My Trangia warped early in its life so has never been capable of storing meths. I have an Evernew titanium equivalent which gives off a lot of heat but doesn’t seem very efficient. I’m interested by your prime time measurements. The fire point of alcohol won’t be changing so it must be variation in how long it takes to get critical parts of the stove up to that temperature. An interesting video. I watched to the end.

@soletrail Рік тому

Thank you very much. That is something I did think about. How much fuel left after boiling. But I was deep in the rabbit hole by then and I could have been there for a week 🤣 I will do that myself. It's a good question. For 40ml of fuel... How many times could you boil 200ml of water 🤔 maybe another video. That's for the comment my friend. Appreciate it.

@Frindleeguy 4 місяці тому

You have the total burn time, and the amount of time it took to boil the water. Simple subtraction and you'll know how much burn time was left. Then simple division given the fuel quantity and the percent of time used vs total time available and you'll know exactly how much was left :)

@Sokol10 4 місяці тому

@@Frindleeguy X-Boil wins in efficiency, use 7.43 ml for the boil. Trangia uses 9:28ml.

@DavidDoyleOutdoors Рік тому

great video, although to get the true fuel efficiency I would measure the amount of fuel used to boil X amount of water by weighing the stove before and after, I would also put the pot on during priming so as not to waste any heat and fuel.

@soletrail Рік тому

Hey David. I hear you man. There are so so many different configuration tests. Very good idea though. On the trail I always put the pot on straight away. Just wanted to measure boil time for the stove output after priming. But I hear you. Weighing the full is a great idea. 👊👍

@saegmam 3 місяці тому

thank s man...

@EspenFrafalne 8 місяців тому

I used to prefer Trangia because of its simmer ring, but later got a Rover Camel titanium burner (very similar to the Evernew), and the secondary ring of jet holes means that you can put the pot directly on the burner (without the cross stand), which will block a lot of the flames, so you get a much more moderate heat output. When used with the included cross stand, it gives off a LOT of heat, and give quicker boil times than the Trangia (about 10% faster IIRC). As the Trangia simmer ring is incompatible with cross stands, the Bushbox Ultralight (my favorite stand/wood stove) is the most lightweight option i am aware of. This weighs only 65g (the Trangia Triangle is 115g), but when you add the Trangia + lid + simmer ring, this adds up to 177g/6.26oz total. The Rover Camel (with the included cross stand) only weighs 63g/2.23oz, which is 64% lighter than the Trangia setup. The reasons i dont like about the Trangia + simmer ring, is that: 1 - Its difficult to adjust the opening once its on the Trangia burner, and its too hot to handle 2 - Once the Trangia gets hot, the alcohol will boil and evaporate so quickly that even when i have the simmer ring ALMOST closed, it will still produce big flames, and i have to snuff it out for it to cool off before the simmer ring will work like it should. The Rover Camel also gets hot, but it cools off relatively "quickly" by itself. The last time i used the simmer ring, the Trangia burner didnt cool off at all...

@soletrail 8 місяців тому

You've got some serious gear insights, my friend! That Rover Camel titanium burner sounds like a game-changer, especially with those secondary jet holes - smart move for adjusting heat output. And that Bushbox Ultralight as a lightweight option is brilliant, especially for pairing with the Trangia setup. Your points about the Trangia simmer ring make total sense - the difficulties in adjusting and managing the heat output can be a bit tricky. It's clear you've really done your homework on this. Thanks for sharing this detailed comparison; it's super helpful for anyone looking to fine-tune their setup. If you've got more gear wisdom to drop or just want to chat, I'm all ears. Keep those adventures burning! 🔥🏕️🌟

@Sokol10 4 місяці тому

Give a look in the (Czech) EMO Outdoor + ORIGAMI alcohol stove. It's a siphon (capillarity) side burner, this stove use a ingenious "ORIGAMI" pot stand that block the air for the flame moving a lever and reduce the flame efficiently - they claim from 100% do 25%.

@EspenFrafalne 4 місяці тому

@@Sokol10 That one would be better if you are using bigger pots (which need wider support than just the alcohol stove). I just do solo camping though, so i stick to smaller pots. The weight of the Origami stove is almost twice what my titanium stove with stand weighs, and its also a bit bigger. If i can get away with smaller and more lightweight, without making too much sacrifices, then i usually choose that option. I also have a minor titanium fetish, and have a TI pocket knife, 3 TI flashlights, TI spork (fork in one end, spoon in the other), and a full TI cookset (burner + stand, cup, small pot, and medium pot).

@practicalguy973 Рік тому

Nice comparison, check out the Toaks titanium siphon alcohol stove, burns long with fast prime and is really small.

@soletrail 5 місяців тому

Will do. Cheers for the tip. I have a crazy stove fetish 😂

@carolinescott3888 4 місяці тому

Could you add some graphite sponge to the stainless Steel one?

@impermanenthuman8427 3 місяці тому

The X-boil looks like the Kojin stove from traildesigns who make tailor fitted (for specific pot) sheet titanium multifuel stoves

@questions6746 7 місяців тому

There is a direct correlation between fuel burn rate, boil time, and runout time in every test comparison. Ie slower burn, longer boil time, longer runout time....

@jjaylad 4 місяці тому

I watch videos like this, and they always reinforce my decision to go with Trangia. Once something is heated, it can go on simmer. Instant shutdown, fast prime, time tested. No material shortcuts. Lasting value.

@gerkenneally5053 Рік тому

Great presentation Martin my head is boiled after that I think I will stick with gas .Stay safe

@soletrail Рік тому

Thanks Ger. This one took me for ever 🤣

@gerkenneally5053 Рік тому

It looked comprehensive a great show

@pedroclaro7822 Рік тому

@@gerkenneally5053 this is overcomplicated if you were thinking of switching to alcohol stoves. I'll help out. Are you an ultralighter? What do you cook? How much do you go out? If you want to cook properly anywhere with any temperatures, without producing waste with gas cartridges, buy a trangia set. 27 if you an absolute lone wolf, or 25 if you will ever cook for someone else. Weight/price difference is negligible, the biggest difference is pack size. Not an ultralight kit but it's perfect. If you're in the UK them check out the 'endurance 400 lava stove' kit. It's an improvement upon the trangia 25 with all it's original benefits. If you're cooking for a whole family then buy the esbit 2350.

@robertwebb5586 2 місяці тому

I tried most of them but I favor the Trangia..you can not beat it..

@FoxtrotGear 3 місяці тому

Great comparison but where's the Toaks and Self reliance outfitters?

@orandoyle Рік тому

I just watched that entire video and I don't even plan to buy an alcohol stove - just happy to geek out too 🙃

@soletrail Рік тому

I hear you Oran. Geek stuff rocks. 😂

@sahhull 6 місяців тому

Amongst my collection of alcohol stoves. Lixida is the worse. It never primes. If I add even the max amount of fuel. It only burns in the centre. It will still boil water, it just doesn't work as it should. I've got a really old steel alcohol stove from PAC. That blooms in 10 secs. It's a heavy little beastie. I've also got a tomshoo titanium stove that's also an awesome bit of kit. It has internal jets so burns alcohol like a woodgas stove

@brewski3217 Рік тому

Nice comparison but incomplete. Try this same test and include the Goshawk Era burner, give folks a chance to see the future of spirit burners.

@soletrail Рік тому

Very true. I got the Goshawk after this test was done but yes.. it's something that is on my mind. Thanks for the idea. 👊🙌

@turboduckhead6179 2 місяці тому

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@vapoukvapouk9228 5 місяців тому

I've made my own pill bottle stove. Just 2 pills 4.8cm diameter, 2.5cm height. Really small amount of alcohol and it boils 350ml of water in simple titanium pot definitivelly under 5 mins in indoor conditions. Much harder outside though.

@bcamping1 6 місяців тому

I am suprised that the double heat exchanger thing worked.

@xenaguy01 10 місяців тому

You have what must be the quickest-priming Trangia burner ever made. Seriously, I've seen many videos where a Trangia burner took 90 seconds to prime.

@soletrail 10 місяців тому

I was surprised myself. Priming takes ages with some stoves.

@Sokol10 4 місяці тому

8:10 - Trangia have a internal cloth (Linen) wick around the inner wall, so "bloom" (prime) fast. The Lixada aluminum knockoff don't have this wick. Sames goes for the Titanium Boundless Voyager (taller), that is knock off of Evernew Titanium stove, that have the internal wick, seems in fiberglass, the Voyager don't have. Then, the Lixada, Voyager and other lazy to prime stoves need a pre heater pan under for reduced the "bloom" time, e.g. can use a small lid for this. See PaleoHicker MD tests with the Trail Design "Prime-Lite Primer Pan": "Prime ANY Alcohol Stove 10 TIMES Faster for $2.99!" Curiosity the aluminum Lixada in their test prime in just over a 1:08s without the primer pan and 0:11s with the pan.

@MADHIKER777 4 місяці тому

I would rank the "Burn Time" test results in reverse order than in the vise. The longer it takes to deplete 30g of fuel, the more efficient the stove is. The X-Boil boil time of 6 minutes is more than respectable.

@nialloutdoors Рік тому

Bloody hell Martin! You have a serious alcohol problem 🤣 You also have *way* too much time on your hands 🤣🤣🤣 Interesting video and results though. I have a similar stove to the XBoil from Speedster stoves in the UK. Used it this morning in the woods but without a windshield and it really struggled. Definitely Trangia for me for cooking at least and reserving the little one for tea making duties on shorter walks when time isn't an issue 👍

@kokopelau6954 6 місяців тому

Just out of curiosity why only test 200 ml of water? I use 350 ml cause that is the smallest amount for a decent cup of coffee. My homemade Daisy can I made years ago boils in about 10 mins. Full litre in about 15 mins. Which is the largest amount of water needed for any of my dehydrated meals and a decent cup of coffee or tea. Total burn time with about 56ml of heet is 25 mins outside temp 74F water temp 63F.

@damko80 6 днів тому

why not to start boiling the water counting the time from the start of the flame? it will prime anyway... 2. to check fuel efficency you should put the fuel and boil the water till the fuel is end and than check how much water evaporates

@soletrail 6 днів тому

Yeah that is very true. But I wanted to gauge how much heat comes out of the stove as the output different levels. There are so many different ways you can do these tests. Thanks for the comment 😊

@MatoNupai 7 місяців тому

I am also a fan of alcohol stoves

@lemonypeach6866 5 місяців тому

I would say that is around the acceptable amount of alcoholic mini stoves a person can have before it starts to get wired. My mom has over 5 hundred beany baby's, that's weird like what do you even do with benie baby's. Look at them.... well I guess you might be able to light on fire for emergency warmth. Or stuff you coat for extra warmth. I still talk to her though.

@soletrail 5 місяців тому

We could call the stove "The Beanie Burner" 😁

@rickslick6430 2 місяці тому

I can't find that cross stand. Any links?

@soletrail 2 місяці тому

It's actually the normal stand you get and I cut off the end to make smaller. Link here 🔗 amzn.to/3OAyM2b

@rickslick6430 2 місяці тому

Thank you for sharing the life hack. I bought the BSR cause of your video. Cheers from Nevada USA

@martinmadsen4162 3 місяці тому

I will stick with my trangia i just wish they would make a titanium version

@soletrail 2 місяці тому

Wouldn't that be sweet mate. One stove to rule them all.

@markthomasson5077 27 днів тому

Problem with most of theses tests is that they test speed, but not fuel use. The downside of alcohol is the amount of fuel you need over a number of days

@soletrail 27 днів тому

I hear you.. you don't buy alcohol stoves for efficiency. Mostly reliability. For multi days I'd always bring gas. For me, not as exciting but it gets the job done.

@markthomasson5077 27 днів тому

@@soletrail . I hate to have to buy disposable canisters, whereas I can buy alcohol in bulk and easily decant it. And gas is noisy. That said gas is now very readily available

@soletrail 27 днів тому

@@markthomasson5077 we are so on the same page. Have you tried the XBoil.. it's very fuel efficient for an alcohol stove. Well worth checking out.

@PolarRed 6 місяців тому

Great job at herding kittens there mate! Have you tried the Toaks titanium syphon stove? (my personal No.1, followed by Trangia and the X-Boil, but do have my doubts about longevity of sponge on the X though). Oh, btw where's that TRI-angia stove from again? Yeah, I know, I'm a dick! hahahahaha. Great vid mate, appreciated, liked, and thank you.

@matthewwang6394 5 місяців тому

有一种新的酒精炉品牌很不错，澳大利亚产的goshawk！推荐！

@GrizzlyGaz 15 днів тому

Did you do an initial burn first before doing the tests? I found that alcohol stoves take a lot longer to bloom the first few times they're used. Eg the lixada stove, i have this stove and the first 3-4 times i used it it took ages to bloom but now it performs similar to the trangia

@soletrail 15 днів тому

Hey Gaz mate. Hope all is well. Great suggestion man. Yep I tried each one 1st when I got them. Be worth doing a test though wouldn't it. Prime from new and prime after 1st burn.. something I hadn't thought about. You just added to my list of stove tests 🤣

@GrizzlyGaz 15 днів тому

@@soletrail 🤣🤣🤣 sorry pal 😜

@soletrail 15 днів тому

@@GrizzlyGaz my wife thinks I'm gone nuts. Out the back smiling at stoves.. she doesn't know I talk to them as well.... I've said too much.. 🤣🤣

@GrizzlyGaz 15 днів тому

@@soletrail 🤣🤣🤣 it's the simple things that makes us blokes happy 😁

@soletrail 15 днів тому

@@GrizzlyGaz true that

@peterdd4994 Рік тому

No Evernew stove? The thing about the Trangia, is made from brass - dont underestimate the thermal effects of brass. My personal experience with the Esbit stove has been better than yours, maybe a high ambient temperatures?

@soletrail Рік тому

Hey Peter. Thanks for the comment pal. Ambient temperature will always add to the results. Plus water temperature also will determine results. Interesting test thou. I have a few more tests on the way. Thanks for the comment. 🙌 Appreciate it 👍

@mikeryan8405 Рік тому

great video space cadet. 🤣🤣🤣

@soletrail Рік тому

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I know. I will never get that time back

@patriceb26 8 місяців тому

Bonjour so which one is the best ?

@soletrail 7 місяців тому

Triangia or Xboil

@patriceb26 7 місяців тому

Ok merci👍

@EZdotdotdot 11 днів тому

Cost to own these stoves? Supercars, hypercars offer the best performance. But, most can't afford them and just rely on the bus or an affordable car.

@deezynar 4 місяці тому

Don't sit your stove right on a cold surface outdoors because you lose to much heat that way. It wastes time, but it also wastes fuel, and fuel is weight. Put the stove on a piece of silicon mat. You can cut a disc out of a pot holder, or a trivet. The added weight is made up for by the ability to carry less fuel. Another thing, it didn't look like your test rig for boil time provided equal height between pot and burner on all the stoves. And why didn't you test a cat food can stove? They are dirt cheap and very easy to make.

@george2113 Рік тому

Viewers of this channel would probably like Steve 1984 MRE and vice versa

@soletrail Рік тому

Hey George. I must check him out. Haven't heard of him. Thanks you 😊

@cliffschermer9625 6 місяців тому

👍🏻

@ernieschatz3783 Рік тому

Tot process

@Jens-tc5yz 2 місяці тому

@soletrail . En mycket genomtänkt test. Tack. Denna test vart jag imponerad av. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ från Sverige ❤❤❤

@soletrail 2 місяці тому

Very welcome... It took ages 😂

@smoklares9791 4 місяці тому

Can you burn such stoves at home? Nothing is released?

@soletrail 3 місяці тому

With enjoy airflow I wouldn't have an issue with it.

@Pali65 Рік тому

Now wait a minute, you don't wait to put a pot on the stove until primed, don't you? In a real world you would put it on right away because there is quite some energy output already while priming and it would be unnecessary loss to not to use it. It would be interesting to know how long will it take to boil the water if you wouldn't wait for priming. BTW, after testing various stoves including building my own beer can stoves my choice is 52g titanium Lixada (a bit larger copy of the titanium Toaks stove).

@soletrail Рік тому

Hey Pavol. Thank you for the comment 🙂 haven't got the Titanium lixada. How does that perform? 100% understand what you're saying regarding boiling time and priming. I usually place the pot straight away as well. I just wanted to boil at the stoves maximum output. Maybe it would be a good idea to test from priming to boiling. Good idea.

@Pali65 Рік тому

@@soletrail I did the test, see the video. Lixada Titanium is quite a rocket, 200ml boiled under 2m 40s, I didn't wait for priming. Weight of stove is 52 grams (without stand). I didn't measure the fuel consumption. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/qoBne4uqhKSl15s.html

@dirtyronald 9 місяців тому

Do you actually wait for a stove to prime before you add the pot? I don’t, why waste the fuel.

@soletrail 9 місяців тому

Not usually. But for the test I wanted to check the output. I should have done both tests. But I agree with you. I put it on straight away 🙂

@dirtyronald 9 місяців тому

@@soletrail 👍🏻

@soletrail 9 місяців тому

@@dirtyronald by the way .. sub from me pal

@dirtyronald 9 місяців тому

@@soletrail Same. I have a Trangia winter mod video you may be interested in.

@solna35 3 місяці тому

Go with the OG trangia. Not the copy cats

@soletrail 3 місяці тому

Always Mate.

@gedeon2696 Рік тому

You are comparing "Burners", NOT "Stoves". And there is more to "cooking" than just boiling water.

@soletrail Рік тому

100% agree that there is a lot more to cooking than just boiling water, I cook on the trail. And these are called both Alcohol Burners or alcohol stoves. Thanks for the comment 🙂