Alcohol Stove Fuel, Which is Best? Six Alcohol Fuels Directly Compared.

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Alcohol Stove Fuel, Which is Best? Six Alcohol Fuels Directly Compared.
Here I line up six different alcohol fuels and test them side by side to see which is best.
I perform the test with the Trangia Spirit Burner in the Firebox Nano ultra light backpacking stove.
Cost per oz, time to boil 16.9 oz of water, cost to boil and the amount of fuel consumed.
HEET (yellow) $ .147/oz 8:10 10.3 cents .7oz used
Denatured Alcohol $ .227/oz 11:30 15.9 cents .7oz used
Grain Alcohol (Everclear) $ .812/oz 9:30 48.7 cents .7oz used
91% Isopropyl $ .092/oz 11:52 6.5 cents .7oz used
ISO-HEET (red) $ .164/oz 12:30 23 cents .1.4oz used
99% Isopropyl. $ .243/oz 9:00 14.6 cents .6oz used
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@threat_dynamics3272 10 років тому

PART II: I'm not a physician but I am a former EMT and I have a Master's in Epidemiology. DO NOT use alcohol on any open wound. The word "tincture" means alcohol-based so DO NOT use tincture of iodine, tincture of merthiolate, or mercurochrome on an open wound. They're okay for skin prep but not for wound treatment. When iodine is used in a modern clinical or surgical environment it's in a water solution. Alcohol will kill MOST bacteria. But it also KILLS and DEVITALIZES living tissue. Do you know what's one of the best growth media for bacteria? Dead or damaged human tissue. You dump on the alcohol, kill most of the bacteria, and simultaneously kill and damage tissue. Congratulations! You just established the perfect environment for the bugs you didn't kill to thrive and be happy! Avoid hydrogen peroxide for similar reasons. To treat open wounds irrigate with plenty of clean water, normal saline, or a weak water solution of iodine (Betadine). This hasn't much to do with stoves, but far too many comments mentioned the utility of alcohol in wound treatment. Bad practice.

@stevencsawyerss 7 років тому

Threat_Dynamics Thanks so much for your informative post, good to know! :-)

@javidman1017 7 років тому

Im Iranian and use to climb and spend some nights and days on summits, -35 to -40 Centigrade demands to warm my Tent but still have not found non-risky method, Alcoholic Stoves that are used in Labs are suitable or not? I know candle is Dangerous, but how about very small Alcoholic Stoves with a out let leads Gas out of the tent.

@thedude1744 7 років тому

He said open wound. I think a small wound is ok so you both are correct.

@KatJaguar1122 7 років тому

Good info. For iodine I use betadyne with glycerine. Good stuff, no burn, no alcohol. I'm thinking about just using the water based polar pure iodine for wounds because it is multipurpose for water purification.

@rouelibre1 6 років тому

Oh! What has it got to do with stoves? I could tell you that it is good to erase permanent marker, So what? It's got many, many recommended uses and as many not recomended. Out of topic!

@fatalfury26 5 років тому

If you have the time, you can make your own 99% alcohol from a cheaper solution. All you have to do is put it in a container, add salt, and shake well then let it sit for a few minutes. Salt bonds to water, but not alcohol, so it will make the water drop out of solution and sink to the bottom, leaving you with almost completely pure alcohol. And, you can save the saline solution for surface wound care.

@YIO777 4 місяці тому

And when you go to pour out the liquid, the salt water comes out first? How do you know when it's all out?

@fatalfury26 4 місяці тому

@@YIO777 Dang, I'd forgotten about this video. XD If you try to pour it out normally, they will both probably come out together, because liquids tend to work like that. (Try putting water and oil in a container and pour off the oil while leaving the water) I recommend mixing the salt and alcohol in a clear plastic bottle with a lid that has a hole in it. Once it's shaken up, flip the bottle so the lid is pointing down and let the water settle, then unplug the hole and let the water drain out. You will be able to see the line separating the two liquids as the alcohol sits on top of the now-heavier water and salt solution, as the salt will make the water slightly cloudy, but won't affect the alcohol as it can't bond with it.

@YIO777 4 місяці тому

@@fatalfury26 wow, thanks so much for the detailed and well thought answer! Often the solutions (pun intended) are simple. Great idea. Glad I got to remind you of an old video. An oldie, but a goodie.

@econoroller 7 років тому

Here's an important tip about using alcohol fuels, especially the HEET and methanol based fuels. Get yourself one of those good little metal liquid fuel bottles for backpackers and camping. Because once you break the foil seal on the HEET bottle, it starts pulling moisture from the air, and those bottles aren't made to reseal, they are made to use the whole contents, and throw the bottle away. If you live in a cold, wet place like I do, that fuel will be watery and weak in no time at all if you don't store it in a good tightly sealing fuel bottle. Same with the pharmacy and drugstore bottles of 91% and 99% isopropyl. They are made for rubdowns, light cleanings, etc. and their bottles aren't designed for keeping the moisture out of your stove fuel! It is very frustrating when it's -10F and the alcohol you bought a week ago, and only used a smidge of is already too weak to light your stove again!!! it has happened to me with that yellow HEET, it took forever to light, the fuel was noticeably weaker and there was an orange color to the flames as well...that means water got in it....grrr -should be pure blue flames with good, fresh alcohol.

@fireboxstove 7 років тому

Thank you so much for your valuable feedback I'm sure others will appreciate it as much as I do!

@geneo3654 Рік тому

The heat is used to dissipate water in you're glass tank. So how would it form water? Just doesn't make sense of what you're insinuating . I've left my heet in a plastic bottle for months and never experienced any such thing that you have mentioned. My heat in the yellow bottle lights first time every time and still burns with a blue flame . the heet in the red bottle is crap !

@econoroller Рік тому

@@geneo3654 Hi and thanks for the reply! -I'm in North Dakota, USA and we have high humidity as well as sub zero temperatures here, which combine to make moisture attracted to just about anything that's hygroscopic. This is why HEET sells so well up here, because water condenses into people's fuel and brake fluid, etc. so easily. HEET is designed to grab that water and evaporate it away with the isopropyl alcohol it contains...and once that foil seal is broken on the bottle it begins vigorously doing it's job and it doesn't know the difference between that bottle it comes in and your brake lines or fuel lines, etc. I haven't had any issues with the SEALED new bottles, only ones I've opened the foil seal on then closed back up and stored for awhile. YES it WILL still usually light right up if there's water contaminating it, but the quality of the flame goes down and so does the heat output. My penny stoves will burn more orange sometimes sputter with HEET that's pulled water from the atmosphere. I don't know where you are located but just the other day for example here it was around -20F and 100% humidity. There was ice fog everywhere, too cold to evaporate it or even let it get away from the ground very much so it just hangs there. I hope this helps explain, thanks again. Peace

@econoroller Рік тому

@@geneo3654 And YES the HEET in the red bottle IS crap! I think there's some kind of a proprietary lubricant or wax in it or something? I just know left a residue in one of my stoves that baked on hard as a rock and made a sizzling sound when the stove got nearly empty. I'm really glad I didn't use it in my old antique Mark Turm backpacker's stove from the 1950's that my dad gave to me, I'm sure it would've clogged it up and required a tear down to clean it all out...

@Christy.1 7 місяців тому

@@econoroller What about using a large plastic ziplock type bag, push out the air best you can, and then using one of those small compact bag sealers? Could also try saving up some of those silica moisture things that are in vitamins and such, and putting that in the bag before sealing. Not sure if the plastic would have moisture on the inside once sealed after it's been opened. Just some other ideas that may work??

@sliderulelover 8 років тому

Fantastic demonstration comparing 6 different fuels for the Trangia stove. You broke it down to both cost and time elements and showed that overall, the yellow Heet was the winner, with 99% Isopropyl alcohol coming in a close 2nd. Well done, guys!

@wyldanimal2 2 роки тому

91% was the Most Cost Effective, so it produces the Most Heat per $ spent ! It is the clear winner.

@donne9768 Рік тому

Great test guys! It seems the denatured burned the cleanest. Personally, I trade a minute or two of boil time to save a minute or five of cleaning soot, but that's just me. Thanks again. I definitely learned something.

@SuperSaltydog77 7 років тому

By far the best test I've seen. Comprehensive and thorough as possible without going to a laboratory setting. TY for the time and effort that you folks put into this comparison.

@fireboxstove 7 років тому

Thanks so much! I did my best with what I had to work with. It's nice to know that it was helpful to you!

@PawPawDrew1 10 років тому

Thank you for your evaluation. You have helprd me to determine what to use on future trips.

@fattyhamster 10 років тому

Much appreciated these comparative tests. Well organized and informative. Thanks!

@jsmythib 2 роки тому

All of the fuel reviews were great. Thankyou for taking the time. The location of your fuel supply stock behind the open flames was a suspense thriller! :) Great little stoves.

@joshhartelt7022 10 років тому

I really like the accuracy you were able to achieve with the control of variability. One bottle per pot, exact weight of the fuel, this really allowed for an accurate test and that's something I think is really important, thanks for uploading this comparison! Very helpful guys.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Thanks for your input Roger!

@mastodonxrp5314 3 роки тому

I have been stocking up on HEET. Great test you guys performed!

@Kararh3000 10 років тому

As a science teacher and a backpacker, I love this video. I found it very informative. Thank you for sharing!!!

@BirdOfParadise777 7 років тому

I just started to look for this information, figuring it would take me weeks to get a good answer... you're AWESOME! Thanks:)

@fireboxstove 7 років тому

Oh good! I'm glad you found it useful!

@dnasplice 10 років тому

Great comparison! THANKS! ill be ordering the nano to use with my trangia! I already love my full size fire box

@fireboxstove 8 років тому

Hi Tim, If you prefer a 1.5" head space you can use the next position down of the three possible Trangia positions.

@kidphillyorg 6 років тому

This test is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Very glad you did this test, not just of the boiling times but also the price per ounce comparison along with the price to boil comparison too! A great informative test that saves me from buying all of this and doing it myself. You guys doing this test and posting it here on UKposts has me looking into your product to buy. Job well done!!

@fireboxstove 6 років тому

Thank you for the comment, I appreciate it! I am glad the video helped as it was intended to help.

@NoProGoPronto 10 років тому

WOW! This is by far one of the best comparison vids I've ever seen. I made it thru the entire 17+ minutes which means I found it interesting. Thanks for your time and effort. Great video! :-)

@fireboxstove 10 років тому

Thank you, I'm glad you found it useful. I appreciate the comment and the like.

@kc8ljmcopier567 8 років тому

Thanks for taking the time to do these tests. I'm just stating out with alcohol stoves and found your video very informative. Well done thank you.

@fireboxstove 8 років тому

+Perry Kibby My pleasure! Thanks for watching, I'm glad you found it useful!

@jasonkemp6301 7 років тому

Just wanted to say thanks for doing the test and posting the results. You have been extremely helpful.

@fireboxstove 7 років тому

Jason Kemp I'm so glad you found it helpful Jeff thank you so much for watching

@julianpereira2290 8 років тому

Did anyone else notice how close the bottles of alcohol were to the flames?

@fireboxstove 8 років тому

Julian Pereira They weren't as close as they appear to be in the video.

@julianpereira2290 8 років тому

FireboxStove That's good

@SouthernPatriot1 5 років тому

Julian Pereira I was thinking that the whole time 😬

@bobbyharper8710 5 років тому

Never a problem.

@thepalerider5121 5 років тому

Be careful of another Chernobyl disaster..

@J_CtheEngineer 9 років тому

The extent at which you guys went out of your way to be as controlled and scientific as possible makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Thanks, I did try to think of everything but there was just a bit too much air flowing through the warehouse which did have a small effect.

@Gomaga 2 роки тому

Lmao! Great review!

@Gomaga 2 роки тому

Lmao Great review

@lunaticasai 10 років тому

LoL, I just noticed my video in the suggestion box to the right of your view counter. Good luck with business and keep the videos coming, I'll keep sharing them. Godspeed

@AlexanderEddy 27 днів тому

Excellent video, very thorough, thanks! You guys did a great job eliminating variables, but it was also interesting to see how slight changes in conditions could affect performance.

@utuberonda 9 років тому

Really great test but I noticed on the second run the yellow heet was contaminated with one of the other fuels. I only use yellow heet in my Trangia and it always burns only blue. At any rate great video. Thanks for comparing the fuels

@willgoogwalker2586 5 років тому

Great video with solid methods. For me, cost and time to boil are not that important (they were all adequate). What matters most to me is weight. I want to carry less fuel weight, so I want the fuel that can do the job with least weight. While the yellow Heet bottle was the fastest, it needed 1.1 oz of fuel to boil the water in the first test. The 99% isopropyl alcohol used only 0.6oz to boil the water in the first test (tied for first place with the Ever Clear, and second fastest to boot). Therefore, the winner for me is the 99% isopropyl alcohol. If you need to boil 2 cups of water 3 times a day for a week long trip (21 boils), you need 23.1oz of yellow Heet, and only 12.6oz of 99% isopropyl alcohol. That means using the 99% isopropyl alcohol over the yellow Heet saves a pack weight of 10.5 oz, more than 1/2 pound!

@maxwellfraleigh4533 3 роки тому

underrated post

@tomnoyb8301 3 роки тому

Agreed, priority is: Safety, Energy-density, Cost. Safest is: Everclear (Ethanol), Isopropyl, Methanol. Highest Energy-density: Isopropyl-26, Ethanol-23, Methanol-18. But, alcohols are hygroscopic, they suck moisture out of the air and once opened, quickly gain non-energetic weight. Data is scarce, but 10% may be typical? While one might purchase 99%, it becomes 91% before the second meal's cooked? (more...) It's been suggested 10% camp-fuel (38-energy) added to 90% alcohol might produce the highest energy density at an acceptable safety-level? Regardless, Isopropyl seems like the clear winner?

@archuka1 8 місяців тому

Thanks for the video -- appreciated -- was wondering which would be the best

@ladyofthemasque 5 років тому

One of the points that I love about your videos is how methodically you go about testing these things. Thank you!

@fireboxstove 5 років тому

Thank you for appreciating that! I am glad you enjoyed it.

@marktapp5408 3 роки тому

Haven't read all the comments but your video didn't mention that although EverClear was most expensive to purchase it is the only one suited for human consumption. Handy for a late nite toddy. Great video! Very useful!

@dauntiekay2768 4 роки тому

The yellow Heet looked like it also was the cleanest. Interesting video!

@GalloPazzesco 4 роки тому

Thanks for the righteous comparison! It answered a question I have asked myself for some time now. HEET Yellow is what I've been using for years. Must have been intuition and experience .... now confirmed. Home distilled grain alcohol is next in line for emergencies. Homemade is cheaper than store bought btw.

@RAYSALLSERVICES 10 років тому

Thanks for putting in the time to do this vid, very helpful.

@fireboxstove 10 років тому

You're welcome. Thank you for watching.

@lynnann96 4 роки тому

This was great!! I would put a great deal of emphasis on the carbonization/efficiency of the fuels. Also the containment of the flame more than speed (not crazy about those wild flames on some of the burners. )

@mchevalier77 5 років тому

I've talked to a lot of hikers here in CO and they usually use HEET because Walmart has it.

@rickyrox341 6 років тому

Good test! Thank you. It confirmed what I suspected.

@CPTPRICE732 9 років тому

Great procedure and well-constructed test. I got everything i wanted to know out of this video, thank you for isolating as many variables as possible.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

T1024B Thanks, I appreciate the kudos. I'm glad you found it useful!

@imgettinby 4 роки тому

Everclear is the obvious winner. A little for the stove, a little for the person watching the stove boil water. Win-Win! Should have tried 70% iso, has been said it works better than the 91 or 99

@GeneralPadron 4 роки тому

Ask yourself, why would an impure fuel be more efficient?

@annelee5132 4 роки тому

I have tested 70 and 91 percent alcohol and I saw that the 91 worked the best. I am still waiting to test heet.

@user-1A-2A 4 роки тому

Not possible the 70% burns better. The other 30% is water, duh!

@britinmadrid 3 роки тому

Despite being 6 years late to the party, I wanted to say this is a great video which clearly demonstrates the differences between these fuels! 5 stars.

@fireboxstove 3 роки тому

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

@garygerard4290 4 роки тому

pretty cool testing - thank you I've a little pump up Coleman liquid one burner stove and use unleaded regular car gas in it. 'works out to 2.5 cents per ounce = 3.30 per gallon - my choice for heating stuff up blue flame / no soot

@JasonFerguson1283 2 роки тому

That's a pretty solid experiment. Thank you.

@TheHoobajoob 9 років тому

I found this video really useful. Also, It was short and to the point without a bunch of useless banter just to stretch it out. Thank you very much for taking the time to do this experiment. I make penny can stoves for my friends and from now on I will be directing them to your website for actual camping/prepping stoves. Well done & thanks again.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Thanks very much Hoobajooba! I'm glad you found it useful

@billyjoedenny 10 років тому

thanks very much for doing this test, very informative ...ever-clear is a multi use fluid as well... ..bill

@fireboxstove 10 років тому

That's a good point Billy, I guess they all have at least two uses but the everclear is by far the most versatile. Thanks for the comment.

@totallyfrozen 5 років тому

You can cook your brain with it too! LOL!

@russellrlf 5 років тому

This was a great test! I bought a burner recently but had no idea what to get. This was done very well. Good job.

@fireboxstove 5 років тому

Thank you Russell!

@strandymusic 6 років тому

I'm a newbe to alcohol stoves and just received my first one in the mail from Amazon. It's a Tangia just like you tested with. I was surfing UKposts for info on best fuel options and found your video... Awesome testing methods! Thanks for your great efforts.... And, I'm adding your stoves to my future purchases list!!

@fireboxstove 6 років тому

Thanks CZdancer

@rogerkomula6574 9 років тому

No question. 91% wins. Based on price vs. rationalizing all other factors. SIX CENTS. Also considering you can buy 91% most everywhere including the dollar store, it makes a better emergency choice.

@rickw7903 5 років тому

91% isn't as easy to find as you say. Most stored only carry 50% to 70%.

@georgefenrich4119 5 років тому

@@rickw7903 So let's do a test on using them...! :)

@chapter4travels 5 років тому

The 91% soots the pot which disqualifies it for me.

@52rhflight56 5 років тому

@@rickw7903 You can get 91% from Amazon, just like 99% and at appreciable better prices than quoted in the test, given equal amount buys.

@MrChamberlaindavidd 5 років тому

Put that 50% in a freezer let it freeze. The leftover unfrozen liquid is 95%+

@BeighlynnBait 9 років тому

Great video guys. I'm looking at picking up my first alcohol stove and I declare everclear for the win! It might be the most expensive, but it is also the most multi-functional. It's the only one you can imbibe should the need arise. I can buy it in Texas where the HEET products aren't available as readily as in northern states. The rubbing alcohols are cheaper but evaporate more quickly.

@rondave72 5 років тому

This is one of if not the best comparison video I have seen. I appreciate the thoroughness, the chart in the comments, and attention to detail.

@fireboxstove 5 років тому

Thank you, I appreciate that!!

@patrickrandolph6345 8 років тому

What a fantastic and useful test/video way to go and thank you!

@TheFlyrodder68 9 років тому

Awesome test. You just saved me some hassle on figuring out which one to buy. Thumbs up. I'm going to have to put that big firebox of yours in my wish list. Thanks again.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

My pleasure, I'm glad you found it useful. Thanks to you.

@mikesyr 10 років тому

Worth it to note that the Yellow Heet and Denatured alcohol burn a lot cleaner than the others. Certainly worth more to me when I'm packing my cook pot away. Surprised that the Yellow Heet was consistently faster than the rest...it ran away with it.

@staceywitner4897 9 років тому

Awesome experiment guys! Thanks a bunch!!!

@Jones12ax7 9 років тому

Nice video! Here in Brazil we can buy 97% Ethanol at any gas station for less than a dolar per liter, as it is widely used since the 70's as car fuels. The cars that works with gasoline or alcohol or both are very common. I did some tests and found that it works very nice with alcohol stoves. Just hope this information helps someone else.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Jonathan Araujo Thanks for the information!

@BadHorse43 6 років тому

You're lucky to live in the land of the free. The US government doesn't trust us with ethanol. You need to document having an approved industrial use for it, then you can apply for a license that costs a few hundred dollars a year that will let you buy it.

@aperson4933 6 років тому

You are lucky in Brazil. Alcohol fuel is great because its cheap yet high octane and renewable.

@GMCLabs 6 років тому

I just distill my own. Govt can bite me.

@aperson4933 6 років тому

Yea just don't sell the Alcohol and your fine.

@leaddispenser9 9 років тому

I tested heet and dn alcohol last night. Same temp of water same exact canteen cup. Used heavy foil for a lid. 8oz of water straight from the tap. Boil time was right at 7 mins. For the both of them. (Used crown brand dn alc.) Still have my sterno folding stove but this takes first place. Only been having it for a week and its one of the best things I ever bought. Great video guys.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Sounds like a good quality of denatured alcohol! Thanks for the information

@dougdobkowski 9 років тому

Thank you so much for making this video. I found the information very helpful. Well done!

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Thanks Doug, I'm so glad you found it useful!

@reneesouther6076 3 роки тому

Awesome review! I’ll cook with the yellow heat and drink the Everclear. Thank you for this! ❤️

@jimmynix5399 9 років тому

I bought some denatured alcohol today at Home Depot. The quart was $7.50 and the gallon was $15. If you buy it by the gallon it would cut the price per ounce down to $0.11.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Great tip. Thanks for the feedback.

@kocainum6805 6 років тому

Shop around or call small local hardware business's for a price check, i found a gallon of denatured for $13.50 just down the street.

@markrobirds7984 4 роки тому

I've been dealing with this for years in the Marine alcohol stove in my sailboat. For convenience I've got several quart cans that I fill from gallon cans I buy. It's just easier to fill the stove from the quart cans than the gallon. To this day the cost is cut in half by doing so.

@nonimus2030 3 роки тому

I'm assuming you're using an Origo 3000, right? Which fuel do you think is best? I don't want to buy bulk and find out it spots up my pants or stinks up the main cabin. :)

@deborahdurham9249 6 років тому

thanks for the FYI. But I would have moved the bottles in the back much further away from the flame. And I was told never use the Red bottle of HEET. just wondering what about oil lamp for these stoves??

@youngcho 9 років тому

Awesome video. Thank you for testing out all these products. Especially, everclear because I have been wondering about its performance.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Young Cho My Pleasure Young, I'm glad it was helpful!

@joehammond1315 9 років тому

Well done! Thanks for the effort and the resulting data.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Thank you for watching Joe. I'm glad you found it useful.

@rswarre 10 років тому

Another thought to consider with HEET vs. EVERCLEAR is contamination. If the bottle was to rupture in your pack which one would you prefer? I would think the EVERCLEAR would be better especially if it was spilled on my food bag. Just another “pro” to add to the EVERCLEAR column IMO.

@walterhynson2898 5 років тому

the flame height determines how high the pot needs to be off the flame to get the greatest heat benefit.

@fireboxstove 10 років тому

Thanks Deborah.

@jamiesmith1343 5 років тому

Thank you for doing the research, I appreciate it!

@fireboxstove 5 років тому

No problem, happy to help where I can. Thank you!

@idontwantagooglepage3425 9 років тому

The reason your last test (for fuel burned) was better for the yellow heet is that it continued to burn after you put it out through the hole in the lid. It probably wasn't visible in person, but it definitely was visible in the video. If you watch the hole at 6:23 you can see it still burning. It continues to burn with a tiny flame until you blow out the isopropol 91% around 6:47.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Ah ha, interesting. Thanks for commenting!

@onebigkahuna69 9 років тому

What i got from this video is there are options if the others aren't available.Thanks.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Yes and they will all get the job done. Thanks for chiming in!

@gallente4TW 3 роки тому

Thank you guys, most *ahem* illuminating.! I'm now off to buy some yellow Heet and also one of your stoves.! 😊

@fireboxstove 3 роки тому

Thanks!

@maxxmaxwell9051 5 років тому

Thank you. Very concise and informative.

@threat_dynamics3272 10 років тому

Part III: Yes, pure (actually 95%) ethanol does have an essential, critical role in outdoor (and prepping) activities. Plus you can use it for stove fuel. But if you take that alcohol and add approximately 10% methanol to poison it, you have "denatured alcohol," also used as stove fuel. Therefore there should be no noticeable performance difference between Everclear and denatured alcohol since they're 90% the same. As an aside, there's a potable grain alcohol brand around called "Diesel," not to be confused with the hydrocarbon of the same name. I like mine with powdered Hawaiian Punch (the alcohol, not the hydrocarbon). Anyway, HEET isn't readily available this far south. For decades I simply used Boat Stove (denatured) Alcohol with a small lacquered aluminum bottle of Everclear for entertainment and backup fuel...alcohol doesn't get along well with raw aluminum. Finally, I'm amused by those who complain about the cost of Everclear as fuel. I'd understand if someone used it three times per day, every day. But a total of a few weeks each year? I find it humorous that someone who would plunk down $60 for a teacup-sized titanium pot would scream like a cheated prostitute over $10 worth of dual use stove juice. In any case I've switched to hexamine fuel tablets. Mindless operation and nothing to spill. Anyone want to buy a Trangia?

@kellys1458 9 років тому

Thanks for the comparison, guys! Even though Everclear costs more, it is my choice because it doesn't contain cancer-causing ingredients, like Heet does. I wouldn't worry too much if some spilled in my pack because it would just evaporate. It can also be used for cleaning wounds, just like isopropyl alcohol. And unlike any other fuel, you can use it for mixing an after-dinner cocktail, if you'd like :)

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Kelly S Sound like good logic to me! ;)

@ortzinator 5 років тому

Sorry to burst your bubble but ethanol is a carcinogen.

@jrnapa 7 років тому

Thank you for this informative video, I am planning A cross country bike ride and researching stoves and fuel.

@fireboxstove 7 років тому

I'm glad you found it useful!

@Jason-vn5xj 5 років тому

I appreciate the systematic approach. Variables aside, I think it's a valid pilot test, and I very much appreciate the cost per ounce data as well as the time. I would not have guessed that the yellow HEET would be the best cost/oz/min of burn time. I'm about to spend five days in north-central MN camping in the snow, so that is VERY useful data!

@fireboxstove 5 років тому

I am glad you found the information useful! I hope you have fun on your trip and stay warm!! Thanks for watching.

@XtianApi 5 років тому

One thing to consider is fuel to air mixtures. If something is burning very dirty and yellow like the red heat to me that demonstrates that the fuel is more energetic and needs a stove setup that provides more oxygen. With the proper set up those more energetic and dirty burning fuels could boil water quicker and burn cleanly giving enough air. For example if you burn kerosene in a stove that was design for a less energetic fuel it would burn dirty and poorly but has the potential for a much quicker boil Thank you

@BigBenC1991 3 роки тому

@@ruserious9577 Not necessarily. Air flow was restricted by both the box around the burner and the burner itself. I think even just removing the box would cause an increase in available oxygen and a cleaner burn for the fuels that burned yellow or orange and adding vent holes into the side of the burner would also help but would eliminate the utility since it would reduce fuel capacity and make it more prone to leakage. Think about actual camp fires or fire pits. When you blow air to where the fire is consuming the wood or onto hot coals it usually will burn better/hotter/light up momentarily. Commercially available fire pits almost always have mesh around the sides for just this reason. Better air flow means a better and more complete burn. If you block off the sides you also reduce air flow which in turn results in less available oxygen for the fire to burn. I also don't know what elevation they are at in this video which will also effect available oxygen.

@sdlovell718 3 роки тому

Another consideration is to limit the available fuel in a setup and achieve a more efficient burn when oxygen flow cannot be increased. Much of the heat was flowing around the pot and being lost.

@avenue6.554 8 років тому

For cooking, I can agree with your choice of winner, but it might be wise to take the isopropyl as part of a first aid kit instead of peroxide. Dual use equals weight savings, as long as you can wait an extra minute or two for your coffee. Great video!

@fireboxstove 8 років тому

+Jeremy Cote Thanks for your input Jeremy!

@CopperCettle Рік тому

you could also get 200 proof grain alcohol and drink it too

@bomber5242 4 роки тому

Very good informative video . No obnoxious music or long winded narration . To the point . I recently started experimenting with alcohol stoves and was wondering about the efficiency of different fuels . This video explained it all . Thanks .

@fireboxstove 4 роки тому

Thank you for the kind words, glad you enjoyed it.

@glenm5034 9 років тому

Good job on the measuring the different products efficiency.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Thanks Glen!

@georgeclark7208 10 років тому

I was surprised by the performance of the denatured alcohol. I use it in a tuna can with small 1/4 inch metal mesh over the top as a catalyst, and it performs great for me with little soot. The flames are almost invisible (which is actually a little scarey). I have used the 91% Iso in it, and it was VERY sooty. I had heard about the yellow Heet, now I may need to try it.

@fireboxstove 10 років тому

I wouldn't recommend the brand I used in the video. It seemed substandard compared to other brands of de-natured alcohol I've used. Thanks for the feedback!

@viscache1 5 років тому

A great consideration is altitude when selecting fuel. The higher you go the less oxygen to feed the fuel mix. So a purer denser fuel is needed.

@backwoodsbushcraftingbaffo9400 5 років тому

Cool video my friend! Well done! I have used both denatured and yellow heet for years. I had never given the others a fair shot, so it was nice to see you touch on so many options!

@fireboxstove 5 років тому

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

@opichocal 9 років тому

Thanks for doing this test. Great job!

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

My pleasure, thanks for watching and commenting!

@CroakerOutdoors 8 років тому

With my early trials making penny stoves etc I used 99% iso alcohol which was way too sooty for my liking. Now I use a Trangia 27 kit with denatured alcohol and it is perfect. Denatured from wally world does a fast and clean job. Really great video, best on youtube for this topic, thanks.

@fireboxstove 8 років тому

+Croaker Thanks Croaker!

@miguelchacon2717 4 роки тому

Use ethanol

@Smittyschannel 9 років тому

Sweet: primarily because I have a bunch of yellow bottles of Heet in the basement, & I got them for about 35 cents each on clearance :-)

@Smittyschannel 9 років тому

If you want to buy Heet, the best time is march & april when winter is ending

@Bill23799 8 років тому

+paul rogers Thanks Paul. I have been using Yellow HEET also for my alcohol Stove projects. I buy the 4 bottle pak at Walmart for $5.87 and i have never seen it reduced in price at different time of the year. Where have you been finding yours at such great prices?

@tac-z3363 8 років тому

+paul rogers Any certain store?

@Bill23799 8 років тому

unfortunate ly i have never seen HEET on clearance at my walmart. 4 pak of plastic bottle is $5.99

@ergonomiczero2228 6 років тому

Thanks for the Tip!

@baron6271 6 років тому

Thanks Firebox Stove!!! Love these kinds of comparison videos!!!

@fireboxstove 6 років тому

You bet, glad to help. Thanks for watching!

@billblazek3062 6 років тому

Great video!! Thanks!! It's exactly what I was looking for!! The only thing to make it better would be to write up a table of all the results and show that at the end.

@fireboxstove 6 років тому

Thanks Bill!

@nasanction 9 років тому

# 3 the Everclear is 180 proof pure grain alcohol It also can be consumed which adds a bonus on the trail. ;)

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Multi purpose is always a good thing ;)

@nasanction 9 років тому

Yeah, never see booze in anyone's pack list. Also works well for cleaning wounds. A little nipper at the end of the day, puts a nice warm fuzzy feeling for a cold night on the trail.

@ssimon64 5 років тому

*Halfway into a backpacking trip* "Shit! I drank all my stove fuel!"

@mccarthykane3960 4 роки тому

Also used to treat antifreeze poisoning.

@UMepher 4 роки тому

Note to others: 180 proof everclear is not readily available in some jurisdictions. Just because you see Everclear or grain alcohol, that doesn't mean it is 180 proof. In my state, liquor stores only carry up to 151 proof (I think), which is not really suitable for a stove. I've never seen 99% isopropyl here, either. Another tip: Heet (icluding the yellow bottle) often goes on sale/clearance in the Spring, because it sells best as a Fall/Winter item.

@northroad1 10 років тому

Foreshots from the still work well

@slysphinx 9 років тому

This is one of the reasons I love UKposts. Great info on an obscure topic right at my finger tips. Great job guys, thanks!

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

YES, I love it too! When fixing our washing machine I found a step by step video that made the job a breeze! Great community too! Thanks for the comment.

@ningabushman 9 років тому

Yep, this is an awesome and informative test. Thanks guys.

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Thanks so much.

@OlTrailDog 9 років тому

Personally, I prefer to use the grain alcohol, Ever Clear in your test. It is more expensive, but not near as poisonous as any of the other options. My border collies are most often with me, so I go for the grain alcohol. I figure they wouldn't have the opportunity imbibe enough to kill them. Plus, it isn't toxic via your, or their, skin contact. Another option for the grain alcohol is that since I haven't have a drink of alcohol since 1981, but if the catching away happened and I was left behind it might come in handy to have a snort or two available.

@billrundell2097 8 років тому

+OlTrailDog The hairs on your head are numbered by God. You will not get left behind. Our God Reigns. He is the Good Shepard and will leave the 99 to go out and find the one sheep that was lost.

@nickslingerland4155 5 років тому

Amen to that, I know it's hard to do in certain seasons, but trust. -In Jesus name

@ritcheymt 5 років тому

+OlTrailDog as a man who stopped drinking 20 years ago, I'd add that another benefit of the grain alcohol in a WROL context is that it will be valuable for barter.

@ssimon64 5 років тому

Can't you just keep your dogs from drinking your stove fuel?

@nattydred2593 Рік тому

Have a look at "ventless fireplace fuel". It's 100% ethanol with a bittering agent to prevent people from drinking it, and only about $7/liter in quantities more than 6 liter.

@AustinAirCo 3 роки тому

That's the great thing about grain alcohol if you're taking swigs of it *you don't really care how the tests turn out*

@yankmywank 9 років тому

Wow this was really helpful and an amazing conclusion to your experiment! boiling speed and the cost to boil! great job guys!!

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

Thanks Kahl!

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

I liked your first comment :) Made me laugh!

@margaretadams8398 6 років тому

Awesome comparison. Just what I needed to know. Thankyou!

@fireboxstove 6 років тому

You bet Margaret, glad it helped.

@timothysmith7059 5 років тому

I like everclear the best, it is dual purpose and the fumes it puts out would not be toxic.

@Shastavalleyoutdoorsman 3 роки тому

Pretty sure the fumes would be just as toxic.

@tarasbulba3190 3 роки тому

@@Shastavalleyoutdoorsman No fumes. Everclear burns ever clear. 🥴👍

@Shastavalleyoutdoorsman 3 роки тому

@@tarasbulba3190 so does propane lock yourself in a room with one burning.

@tarasbulba3190 3 роки тому

@@Shastavalleyoutdoorsman I think I'll try that. Thanks.

@321southtube 5 років тому

Pretty interesting test. Four concerns though - Can you eat food directly cooked over each one of these? It seems that the "looks like its boiling to me" results are not quite so reliable as actual temperature of the water. The wind and direction skewed results. Lastly....as a Firefighter and common sense kind of guy - GOOD LORD, don't ever have that stuff so close to open flame!!!!! Some yahoo is going to try to recreate this and burn their house down. Great idea for a test but I say redoo - zero breeze, temp based boil instead of looks, water on at the same time, caution with the open flame. Thanks

@wyldanimal2 2 роки тому

Yes, thermal probes in each pot, and a separate Timer per pot. The Grain Alcohol had a 10 second late start in both of it's tests. Not saying that made a huge difference. But it would make for a more accurate comparison. The difference in Burner could also play a role. So while it would take 3 times longer. Use the exact same burner and Pot for each test. eliminate all the variables.

@SurvivalistMedia 9 років тому

Love your stoves, gave mine to my cousin last summer, buying two more this spring, and going to buy one of the minis now too! I've only used 91% C3H80. I just never tried anything else. The cleanest pans are nice for me. Good to know that yellow heet works in a hurry. Never needed to shave minutes in the bush. Anybody ever use yellow heet in the in the Vargo triad TI?

@brentrichie3592 3 роки тому

I enjoyed your video and thank you for all the effort. The cool thing about alcohol stove is it is not about how fast it cooks. It’s about taking it slow. I do baking on my Trangia. I use the simmer ring to slow the heat output. I find the Denatured Alcohol to be the cleanest burning. It is the recommended fuel for Alcohol Stoves in general. It is used indoors on boats. For me the HEET is a close runner up. Although, I wouldn’t use it indoors. I do not like fuels that soot up my Trangia Pots n Pans. Thank You for the video.

@Boosted98gsx 9 років тому

For the "dual purpose" I will go with everclear for my fuel!

@fireboxstove 9 років тому

It will be worth it when you need it and when you don't you will have the peace of mind knowing you're prepared!

@Yeshuaschosen 4 роки тому

Yes Everclear is SAFE to use indoors or out and can be drank.The other fuels are toxic in and of themselves or have toxins added.

@four-x-trading5606 4 роки тому

It’s also good to clean things with actually better than most cleaning products

@peacefulwarrior4078 3 роки тому

I'd Definitely go with the everclear it's a fuel ,a disinfectant, and a really good pain reliever until the next morning 😂

@jamesortiz5388 3 роки тому

My fishing buddy would have drank all the everclear and we wouldn't have coffee or hot food.. He quit drnking finally.

@NobleSavage44 5 років тому

Ever clear would have been my #1 pick because of its versatility. Sadly my nanny state of Maryland bans it from sale. 91% works for me. Not sutty and can be used as an antiseptic, easier to find than 99% too.

@OysterPir8 2 роки тому

Yup. Im in California. Mine too. And now they've banned denatured alcohol.

@nattydred2593 Рік тому

Have a look at "ventless fireplace fuel". It's 100% ethanol with a bittering agent to prevent people from drinking it, and only about $7/liter in quantities more than 6 liter.

@oscaranderson1822 4 роки тому

Thanks . And now we know. Great expero.

@Cherbear609 10 років тому

Thanks so much for this clear and controlled test. I have a JetBoil system with it's canned fuel, but have been thinking of getting something lighter and more compact for obvious reasons. Great info! ;-)

@fireboxstove 10 років тому

Thanks Cheryl.