Alpe du Zwift VS Alpe d'Huez: Preparing For Reality?

5 років тому

The famous Alpe d'Huez, a climb steeped in Tour de France history. But just how does it compare to the Alpe du Zwift? Chris rode both to find out....
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 523

@ndegraafndg 4 роки тому

Thought when watching this video when it came out "wish I could do 300 watts up there" when I could only manage just over 200w. Now as of today averaged 309w and climbed just over 48 minutes. Also my segment in ask GCN Training helped me a achieve this. Thank You GCN

@ChristianNorling 2 роки тому

Nice work 💪🏻

@coyz8015 2 роки тому

Well done! What was your question to the GCN people?

@bountyhuntermk2520 2 роки тому

Bore off - who honestly cares?

@Kieran0 Рік тому

@@bountyhuntermk2520why wouldn't you care?

@yutehube4468 Рік тому

How long and how many miles did it take to go from 200W to 300W?

@sevenrats 4 роки тому

I am primarily a mountain biker. I very recently got on zwift as a good way to stay fit during the unrideable periods over the winter. I was very surprised how not fit I was riding a road bike on zwift. I was not used to the higher cadences at all. My legs were strong for short bursts but not for spinning over 80 rpm. So now I am riding mostly on zwift over the winter even on days I could ride outside. I'm getting a better workout and not freezing to death. I am currently at level 8 and my FTP is a lowly 147. I saw race event today Road to the Sky Alpe du zwift KOM. Opportunity! I entered the D class. Stayed within myself and did the climb in 1:54 and came in 225 out of 299. Never thought I was going to die, kept my heart rate around 165 and just kept going. No stops. It is so long! I averaged 127 watts. It is definitely a test of mental toughness, especially for the D class riders. A lot of riders quit.

@chrismccaffrey8109 Рік тому

Howdy! I hope you’ve still been enjoying it in the couple years since this comment! I’m same boat, primarily a skier who mountain bikes in summer, training on Zwift for some other projects. Wild how little the fitness seems to translate sometimes but psyched cause there’s such a huge amount of potential gains with a measurable and straight forward way to get there

@bigslacker666 Рік тому

@@chrismccaffrey8109 Also a skier/snowboarder and summer MTBer. Kinda hard to ride bikes in winter in Tahoe where I live and why would you with so many resorts to ski anyway. :D But this season I committed to using Zwift to get me in shape so that I'm ready to go in spring when the lower trails melt without that long ramp up period to get back to bike fitness. So far so good, though there are days where leg soreness from Zwift is felt on the slopes!

@oldtwinsna8347 Рік тому

You just need to build up your aerobic base. Keep at it.

@chrismccaffrey8109 Рік тому

@@oldtwinsna8347 howdy! Nice reminder to check in after a couple months. Increased my FTP nearly 40 watts, max 5 second power up a few hundred watts as well. Lost 10 lbs which helps the W/Kg too. Psyched to see what I can get up to in summer with a couple more months to train!

@yutehube4468 Рік тому

At any level, not quitting is a massive thing. I have an eBike and nearly quit up Werneth Low (John Street) the other day... a voice inside your head tells you... you can't quit, you can't get off and walk and you don't. Then you keep repeating it and get fitter. Don't ever quit!

@drillpenguin 4 роки тому

Should've tried the 'Wahoo Suckr Air''... It artificially sucks oxygen out of your room to replicate altitude climbs! Or try the 'Wahoo Blastr Bastrd' which generates random wind conditions in your garage! However both can be adequately replaced by eating a curry the night before then riding your bike.

@AgravepasmonK 3 роки тому

lmfao

@rawdonwaller 3 роки тому

Ahahahaaa. Too funny.

@dpgrenfree 3 роки тому

Genuine loud laugh to that comment :)

@the-lonely-ous1767 3 роки тому

@joshd2861 Рік тому

This literally might be the funniest comment I've ever seen on youtube.

@madiantin 3 роки тому

"You should complete it in 45 mins - an hour and a half depending on your fitness." Me: Laughs in 2.5 hours plus.

@HuSanNiang 3 роки тому

I have it still on my list, at the moment nothing more than 600km .. not sure I could do it under 2,5 hours at all. Will wait for a rainy weekend.

@teejfalconaf 3 роки тому

I hear ya, Madiantin! (I was gonna say 'bro' - glad I clicked first. :D ) Just did my first climb of this in about 2:10. :\ I'm of a similar vintage and clearly not in danger of entering TdF anytime soo...well..ever. :D

@madiantin 3 роки тому

@@teejfalconaf 2:10!! I salute you! Fantastic!

@teejfalconaf 3 роки тому

@@madiantin Take another stab when you feel up to it. Now you know what to expect and can maybe pace yourself better. I took 15 minutes off on a 2nd attempt by not charging in so aggressively and maintaining a more controlled HR through the climb. When I did have to take breaks it was due to dead legs instead of blowing up heart/breathing.

@madiantin 3 роки тому

@@teejfalconaf @@teejfalconaf I did it for the TOW in just under two hours...but it nearly killed me and I didn't enjoy it at all. =D High fives to you on taking off 15 mins!

@stephenmacdonald6751 4 роки тому

rode alp d'huez in january 2019 with me on a hire bike from the shop in the valley and my dad 60 years old on his brompton I will never forget that day

@markalfresco 3 роки тому

Hi, am thinking of riding my Brompton up a few mountains, can you tell if he changed gears or chain ring? Thanks

@stephenmacdonald6751 3 роки тому

Hi Mark, he kept the gearing the same as standard, hope this helps

@markalfresco 3 роки тому

Wow, he must be strong, so I better start hill training, thanks

@Ah_Lee_Sun 3 роки тому

I’m amazed he rode a B up The Alpe. Fantastic achievement (I have a B too with the max gearing and wouldn’t ever think of it)..

@zedatomic8342 5 років тому

Great video Chris - really enjoyed this and gave a good perspective on virtual riding on Zwift vs riding in the real world. I guess the next step would be to setup an oxygen tent over your Zwift bike and as you gain virtual altitude the oxygen is reduced in the tent!

@matthewdickinson3692 5 років тому

Really enjoyed this video, thanks Chris. Using Alpe d' Zwift to help me prepare for a Bavaria trip later this year.

@andrewb2874 5 років тому

Thank you for doing this comparison. As I live in the US, I was wondering if my training on wahoo kickr was really going to help my ride up the Mortirolo and Gavia in May. Keep up the good work!

@byrons4 4 роки тому

This was a really informative video, thanks! I've only been Zwifting for a few months and have wondered about the transferability of the platform/the riding. I figured that the #s weren't really going to lie (ie, watts and HR), but to see this specific comparison done was fun to watch. Keep up the great work!

@smarizmendi85 4 роки тому

I trained for Mt. Ventoux climbing Alpe de Zwift. I felt perfectly fit when the real life Mt. Ventoux effort came.

@djlemma 3 роки тому

And now you can ride a virtual Mt. Ventoux in Zwift as well!

@mbrown1680 5 років тому

Cheers Chris, very interesting comparison, I've ridden Alp du Zwift twice now and I feel pretty good about it... thanks to you and the GCN crew....

@stephenmorris6202 5 років тому

Really good video. Chris is an excellent presenter and great addition to the GCN team

@rahulkota1 4 роки тому

That was a proper effort there Chris, nailed the comparision and that was beautifully done.. The video did remind me of the previous Alp d'huez video by Matt and Tom in epic climbs ( one of my all time favourite really)...again kudos to people behind the camera, beautiiiiful work....cheers to awesome video!!!

@TheBassallyear100 5 років тому

Love this video! answers a question that gets asked a lot in a very real way.

@markmurphy5678 4 роки тому

a Group of us are doing 5 days in the Alps in June and Alpe d'Huez is obviously on the list. This has been a fantastic little learning curve and informative. thank you!

@Oslerian 4 роки тому

Brilliant idea for a video, and you executed it so well. Well edited; practical and fun to watch. I can’t believe you can speak with a HR of 191.

@Cecilia-dy3ez 4 роки тому

Super helpful! Thanks GCN, as always. :)

@jonathanallen6753 4 роки тому

Interesting comparison without doubt. I had been thinking about this recently, so comments and feed back were excellent! Good video!!!

@robbchastain3036 5 років тому

Outdoor Chris v. Indoor Chris, that's a duel worth watching. Thanks, Chris, and with a big enough imagination, inside is actually outside, and that's a beautiful thing.

@Mar.Marz.83 5 років тому

This video is super! Very well done, I never did Alp du Zwift, but you took away from me any doubt if going for Zwift/indoor trainer or not

@stanwatson2904 5 років тому

Great video Chris. And nice effort, you really gave it your all.

@jasonmcgrody9472 5 років тому

I love videos like this because it's great to see all the physical effort the presenters put in to bringing us weekly content. It's genuinely inspiring.

@AlexRochette 5 років тому

Brilliant. Both very entertaining and insightful.

@brucegrimley 2 роки тому

Loved this video, thank you so much for making it. Very surprised your experience in Zwift is so similar to the real thing.

@MichaelMauel 4 роки тому

Outstanding video report. Thank you!

@StephenTyson 4 роки тому

tremendous video, nice job chris. i climb alpe du zwift once a week and always wondered how it would transfer to the real thing. can't wait to ride in real life!

@scottvessey915 5 років тому

Alp de Zwift was great training for the Sa Calobra climb on a Mallorca weekend trip 👍

@chokhou 4 роки тому

That's so amazing how real swift can get. Amazing technology! Good effort on the comparison's. Cheers!

@nw2s 5 років тому

New Wahoo product idea after you get the Climb? Wahoo altitude simulator mask with Bluetooth controlled variable suffocation levels based on actual Zwift altitude.

@ironrace2004 5 років тому

Sadistic

@kevinawood 4 роки тому

Bluetooth controlled variable suffocation levels? Brilliant idea!! LOL!

@adamsellick8116 4 роки тому

Good idea... Untill it malfunctions and you fall off the bike😂

@sebh670 4 роки тому

@@adamsellick8116 Thats fine if it auto-pauses ...

@adventureadventure8796 5 років тому

Great video and definitely a route worth ticking off. Rode Alpe d'Huez last year and loved it, with a time of 1hr 5mins, then rode Alpe D'Huez on Rouvy this winter and achieved similar time. Looking forward to trying out zwifts offering when I get above level 12, plus have a new smart trainer (tacx Neo) so looking forward to the comparison.

@leeshirley14 5 років тому

Excellent video, I’m riding the Haute Route Alps this year and there is time trial up Alp d’Huez! I do not use zwift but have a kickr linked to Rouvy, time to check out the climb!

@rawdonwaller 3 роки тому

Thoroughly enjoyed this vid comparison. Makes me feel good about the Watopian Alpe, which is one of my regular climbs. Thanks to GCN, and to smart training technology and Zwift. All the benefits of outdoor cycling, and none of the risks.

@LastLamplighter 5 років тому

Another excellent video Chris. I love Alpe du Zwift, but haven't tackled the real thing yet so it's great to see the comparison. I've done plenty of Alpine and Pyrenees climbs so I do feel Alpe du Zwift is good preparation.

@stuarthenderson7354 5 років тому

Excellent really enjoyed that and informative !!

@carl1427 4 роки тому

Great effort on both rides bud. Beauty doing the real deal in the snow, that's epic.

@liambathard2094 4 роки тому

Awesome video with some strong riding! What an effort...

@Interventor2008 4 роки тому

Thx!!!! Excellent comparison

@MrScrofulous 5 років тому

You look so happy and fulfilled on the real mountain, and utterly miserable on the indoor trainer. I love snow (ski tragic) so I would be thrilled to be riding on those alpine conditions as well.

@chiefrocker12 5 років тому

Great work Chris, I have experienced the real Alp d'Huez in 2017 and did not do the level of training that you have demonstrated here that can be done in your own home. I am assuming the Wahoo Climb equally brought some realism. Stats were surprisingly close.

@6ft8incyclist 5 років тому

Great JOB, Chris Knocked it out of the park!!!

@joeschmoe3630 4 роки тому

This is really good. One of the best GCN productions.

@gcn 4 роки тому

Thanks Joe

@sureshchinnappa2290 5 років тому

Well done CO just brilliant.

@glasshouse75 5 років тому

Some wattage that. Absolutely nailed it and I’d struggle to hold 220 for the whole climb.

@lewisatkinson7277 5 років тому

Fair play Chris!! Serious effort on both, but certainly on Alp D'Zwift! Sheesh... that looked tough! 😥

@shansingha 2 роки тому

Thanks Man nicely covered

@F1TZGER4LD 10 місяців тому

BEAST, Chris! I started cycling end of April 23, did my first attempt at the ADZ a couple days ago n got 68mins. Sub 60 should be achievable now I know what to expect. 68mins of pain might I add but addictive pain. We go again 😂👍

@johanvandermerwe2928 5 років тому

I rode Alpe d Huez twice last time 5 years ago and when it came to Zwift immediately went up for comparison. Found it very similar but slower indoors. Probably fitter when actually there and definitely younger then.

@Bikejon 4 роки тому

Great video. I have ridden both but first rode the real Alpe in 1993 and then again in 2007. But the Zwift effort, look and feel was really similar to what I remember. Unfortunately I'm not 72kgs like I used to be and I suspect I've dropped a few watts too since those days so I'm a little way off Chris' time. But happy enough with a sub 50 mins. Chapeux to Zwift for the climb but I recommend going out to the real thing if you can.

@tonyvandijk4339 2 роки тому

In 2019 I did train for Alpe d’HuZes (climbing the Alpe d’Huez 6 times in a row for charity, raising money for treating cancer) on Zwift. Since I live in the flat Netherlands this was the best way to train frequently for long training sessions of climbing. I did use the Wahoo Climb for this. The virtual bike is way lighter than nu real bike, but it still got me familiar with the posture of climbing and in great fitness. Without it I could not have prepared so well, and because of the preparation I enjoyed all 6 times of climbing the mountain. Ofcourse all the music and shouting people all Across the climb helped with that as well ;)

@PlayGamesRideBikes 5 років тому

I strive for the day I can average 300W+ for that amount of time. So insane!

@enwezornzegwu2494 5 років тому

Crazy figures. Totally agree!

@Dennis4523 5 років тому

It’s not hard , you just need dedication and a training plan

@THAxBLiNt 5 років тому

@@Dennis4523 What training plan do you recommend?

@numberonealcove 5 років тому

@@tvi82 You think the number of men who have threshold power greater than 300 watts is roughly equivalent to the number of humans who can run a sub 10 second 100 meter? You are way, WAY off the mark. Look at Zwiftpower. You'll see that 95% of a rider's best 20 minute time (threshold power by definition) equaling 300 watts is only good enough to put that athlete in the 85th percentile of all riders. Meaning that roughly 14% of the people on Zwiftpower can average greater than 300 watts up Alpe du Zwift. Yes, it is very trainable. At least it is for most men of average or greater size. If you are a woman or a man under 65 kg or so, it gets very difficult, as raw power is directly proportional to body weight.

@davethedogdude 5 років тому

LOL, when your 59kg it's hard.

@andrewzach1921 11 місяців тому

Interesting video, was curious about the differences. Thanks

@tdfbc 2 роки тому

Great video and quite surprising how comparable the numbers were. Thank you

@mooxima 6 місяців тому

Thanks, very informative

@stanroberts229 5 років тому

Curious about how Kinomap’s version would compare. Good job!

@brucelangsteiner4599 4 роки тому

This was a excellent comparison! I can see that if I do the Alp du Zwift it will easily prepare me for the Alp dHuez. Particularly since I live at 7,300 feet in elevation and the summit of Alp d'Huez is only 6,100 feet. However, I seriously doubt I will be anywhere close in time to your effort.

@sabinasmile 4 роки тому

Omg the commemorative picture of Si's Ras win in the background!

@jonathanspring7051 3 роки тому

Ohh yea and managed to hold steady conversation throughout!! - first thing to go is my lungs that's why I love the coffee stops with my mates - my only chance to actually chat when we're out!

@Velcro_Ninja 3 роки тому

Thanks for caring this. I am definitely getting a Zwift after years of avoiding trainers due to their lack of realism.

@willhogarth9945 3 роки тому

Great Vid. God help us heavy low FTP riders. I'm having a go of Alpe d'Huez on Rouvy next week and hope to manage about 200w :)

@simon2225 5 років тому

Thanks Chris, good video.

@BreumFlemming 4 роки тому

Super god test Chris. I can concur that it is super tough!!!

@CPTPHRizz 5 років тому

Would have been great if you did an overall graph overlay (outside over inside) for HR, Distance, Time and Watts. Would be interesting to see...

@rasmus9311 5 років тому

Yeah thought that would be the whole point of the video, slight disapointment

@alexmorgan2818 4 роки тому

Yeah it seems that he did the climb on zwift about 12mins faster than in real life at approximately the same power output. Shows how much easier it is on zwift!

@arjanpetersen 3 роки тому

@@alexmorgan2818 that is irrelevant. It is just relative.

@litenantjv Рік тому

@@alexmorgan2818 alpe du zwift is lil bit shorter than real life

@Quevallyn 5 років тому

Excellent video. Looks like I need a few more hours on Zwift so I can level up enough.

@jimmckenna9811 5 років тому

Brilliant vid. Ultimately, are you now contending for the GCN Gurning title?

@erick_fernandez_78910 5 років тому

I've always wondered about that. Cool video. I've never done swift but would consider doing it just for the sake of riding real world places that I haven't actually been to so I know the route before I actually go there.

@jonathanspring7051 3 роки тому

Phenomenal Stats, I really didn't think it was possible to do those Watts and maintain that HR - well done, very inspirational!

@camallan1 3 роки тому

Opie is a total monster

@jonathanspring7051 3 роки тому

@@camallan1 yep for sure!

@nihilivocem5768 5 років тому

I'd love to have a go at the real climb. Just got my "Masochist" achievement from Alpe du Zwift (an achievement I didn't even know existed). Glad to hear that the heat creates at least comparable decrease in output to altitude, as someone who lives in a completely flat country I don't have the chance to experience altitude at all.

@laurentHK 5 років тому

Alpe is definitely a must on a cyclist bucket list, as the surrounding climbs (Galibier, Madeleine..) and Ventoux. If interested to bring your "Masochist achievement" to another level, we will be happy to help. do check out our site www.belovelo.com kind cycling regards. Laurent

@mtelectrical8068 3 роки тому

Fantastic video 🤙👌

@richaw6689 5 років тому

I'm about to try the Zwift version.. this is a great insight.. nice one Chris

@gamma_dablam 4 роки тому

You must be nearby

@daveyoung6680 5 років тому

Superb video Chris, love to see you chaps suffering in the name of cycling :-)

@nil2k 3 роки тому

One year ago, I didn't care at all about this content.. just a year and a month later, things are totally different and I can really appreciate this content after my first two months ever of indoor riding...

@alexandresaca 5 років тому

Amazing ride! I will buy one smart trainer, thanks!

@derekkuhl 3 роки тому

Thanks again for this video. For those of us training indoors in hopes of someday spending some real time in the mountains, knowing that the effort is similar is super useful. Perhaps you could do a Ventoux challenge like this one. Likely the results would be similar but the character of the climb on Zwift is very different than the Alpe. In particular, the lack of switchbacks on Ventoux/Ven-Top makes that climb feel much longer and more difficult to pace. I think it is much more of a head game than the Alpe. Is the real climb like that also?

@stuartdryer1352 5 років тому

Those of us who live in Houston and places with a similar climate know that heat is poor man's altitude. I wish there was a way for Training Peaks to account for it in a training stress score (TSS).

@brunopoguet9684 5 років тому

I've made same exercice on Ventoux: 1h40 on my bike vs 1h42 on my BKool trainer. Quite real ... except the win on the top that usually slow you.

@mattlatham8405 Рік тому

Just did my first run up alpe du zwift today I couldn't believe the effort to the first corner but got settled in and managed 85mins... Need a lot more training to bring that under an hour but it was an achievement.

@MrJadiin 5 років тому

lol HR 191 and still having a conversation.

@cliffcox7643 4 роки тому

I can do that, but im usually saying, help, when,,,,,,,, will ,,,,,,, we .... stop.

@garth3743 4 роки тому

Right? Not sure how some people can handle that.

@babygerald4645 5 років тому

That's some dedication from Chris- suffering the ride up Alpe D'Huez without even enjoying the descent. Thanks for the comparison between the two-- I'm going to hit AdZ for the first time this week.

@laurentHK 5 років тому

If you love downhill, I'll advise you to try out Col du Galibier (34 km non stop )...unfortunately the pass might not open before mid may

@AaronGoodTimes 5 років тому

Great effort! I want to go to France now and ride the real one too.

@merl510 3 роки тому

Come when you Want ! You ll love it !

@markbentley4343 5 років тому

Its great that you mentioned putting the realism level up to 100%. That is a must imo to replicate the lower cadence efforts needed and resultant impact on the muscles. Also agree indoors is roughly 10% quicker than outdoors. Great comparative review! 👍👍😊😊

@scoobydruid 3 роки тому

sometimes I watch these kinds of GCN videos just to be amazed at how strong the GCN riders are. They do things I can never achieve, which is fun to see! 200 HR, I'd literally go into cardiac arrest lol

@legomanmerlin Рік тому

Have you seen the cycling tattooist when he rides chain gang his goes above 200, as he says like some sort of hummingbird heart - I can’t break 170 now 😂

@neilgj6305 5 років тому

Thank you for this Chris. I am doing Mont Ventoux and Alp dHuez in July the week before the PRL (which is my reason for coming to the UK from Cape Town). All of my training will be on Zwift. I do plan to put in about 250-300km with about 1200m of climbing a week for the next 9 weeks. My question is about recovery and the altitude effect. How quickly did you recover from the effort? If I do MV on Monday and AdH on Tuesday, do you think I will be able to recover in time for the PRL, do you think I will recover enough from MV to do AdH 24 hours later? I am not racing I am riding it. I weigh about 93kg with a FTP of 290 at the fresh young age of 52. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

@ironrace2004 5 років тому

I imagine the increased cadence can also be due to the stability you have indoors. On that incline you are moving slower, requiring a slightly greater effort to stabilize.

@ACCPhil 5 років тому

It eases off after the first 4km and even a fat git like me can spin nicely. The first section is steep though.

@-paulmp 2 роки тому

Rode Alpe du Zwift for the first time today... I've never ridden up a mountain before and I've not ridden since I got hit by a car in December last year.... it was tougher than I thought it would be and I did a woefully slow time, but I set myself a benchmark to beat in a few weeks after some training.

@jonathanzappala 5 років тому

I did 1:03 during my SST medium workout. I hope it bodes well for when I do it in August in real life. I’d like to get an hour. I hear that takes 3.7w/kg in god weather in real life, but I wasn’t doing that much though. Here is to parting for good weather that day!

@eduardorider7211 5 років тому

Doubt I reach level 12 on zwift but did climb the real deal when I was 58 in 1hr 7mins ,that was 5 yrs ago.

@malcolmmay6088 4 роки тому

The level is just an accumulation of miles. It is not a statement of fitness or capability, just that you have ridden a number of hours. I almost level 30 and have over 5000 miles on zwift. Its a great training program. I rode the hill when you had to be level 20. Glad they dropped it.

@akshayeakki 4 роки тому

now you can do it as you can unlock it at level 5 for a short period of time. go try it. all the best

@marcdaniels9079 4 роки тому

Nice work 👍

@THOELL2737 4 роки тому

so there is hope for me thank you great job

@beeble2003 3 роки тому

As Malcolm said, level on Zwift is just a measure of the distance you've ridden, plus bonuses for completing pre-defined routes. You can now ride AdZ at level 6. Up to about level 10, you don't even need to ride very far: as I recall, I was gaining about one level per ride, and I usually just ride 20-30 miles on Zwift.

@gordonharker4705 5 років тому

Awesome Chris.

@buffuniballer 2 роки тому

This is great news, thanks for doing this. While not as iconic, I hope to ride the Road to the Sun over the North American continental divide some time in the near future. I live in the Midwest, where it's hard to get 1000' (300m) of elevation change in a days riding. So training on Zwift using the Alpe du Zwift seems a reasonable substitute. The climb from Lake McDonald to Logan Pass is about 11 miles (17.6km) and 3300' (1000m) of elevation change. For a 50+ year old 100kg flatlander, that's going to be a challenge. Good to know that this is a reasonable approximation for climb training.

@alwaysup22 5 років тому

Fantastic video

@gratze111 3 місяці тому

really nice video :) thanks

@wayneh.4217 9 місяців тому

Great racing!

@henrymasters8319 4 роки тому

This is so fascinating. Can't wait to get Zwift.

@frazergoodwin4945 5 років тому

The gradient and the road layout is the same for the two (even though I've never ridden the real one I know it well because, well its where I go Skiing). There are some features in the Zwift version that aren't on the real one - the gallery after bend one for example (that's in this clip) gives the climb more of a feel for the Tourmalet from Campan than Alpes D'Huez, and there's other gallery sections more reminiscent of the Stelvio from Bormio. Its not the gradient or the shape of the road - but the feel the view gives as you ride... Just wonder if these features were the designers planning ahead for features that could be swapped out and used in future climbs of Zwift du Tourmelet or Zwift du Stelvio....

@kaveac 5 років тому

47 minutes! Wow. Impressive.

@robertlacasse 3 роки тому

great video!

@davidwebster2616 4 роки тому

This was great 1. world experience vs computer simulation and 2. The video stayed on topic with the Title of the video...my biggest gripe with you guys.

@MAP-Ruhrstadt 3 роки тому

Great job - Ride on!! What powermeter & trainer do u use indoor / outdoor??

@danjo1967 5 років тому

you know you can still get the kickr climb to go up/down normally at lower trainer settings; eg; with you trainer at 50% settings - you can set the kickr climb wheelbase to double (x2) what it is, and it will adjust like it was at 100%.