It's nice seeing Yuki flourish. But that made his behaviour in Bahrain even more frustrating.

@@TommoOnUKposts agreed. And that frustration also extends back to Mexico last year. I still think he needs to prove himself in adverse , high pressure situations where not everything is going his way

Is Yuki showing how good he is or is Dan showing how bad he is?

@@nicholashill8724 I think it is a bit of both

@nicholasahill Take this logic and apply it to Daniels time at McLaren too Was Lando great or did Daniel underperform? You'll see, quite obviously, that the dynamics are always a mix of the two. Daniel is performing below his peak and Yuki is performing with consistency (and even improving slowly)

Theres no way in hell it's a "slow" decline whatsoever. But yea his peak was maybe 10 years ago and just like that it's gone. It happens all the time in all pro sports, the "failed wonderkid" archetype: early peak at very high level, then it just goes away for no reason. In f1 you can mask it behind "Bad car" excuses in order to milk the cash cow a little bit more but thats only works for a limited time.

​@@alvmusic4402Bro 2014 was his first year in RBR. Danny's peak was probably 16-17 and 17-18

@@alvmusic4402 So true. There will be guys like Alonso who don't seem to age, whilst there are others who plateau off a cliff after just a few years of peak performance. You can also the same about drivers progressing, you have somebody like Yuki who had one of the worst starts to their F1 career and he was super lucky to be able to keep his seat, but he was able to use his time to quickly develop and now all of a sudden is being rate as a solid driver, and given his young age, reasonable to expect he can improve even a bit further.

@@alvmusic4402lol what he was in his prime 4 years ago at Renault

@@tak8261worse starts? There’s been plenty of drivers with worse seasons, Logan, Latifi, Giovinazzi never mid much worse drivers before then

yeah the Australia data is a joke, the guy was giving a free ride in the back with nobody to race or defend against. Ricc was just sailing in clean air and on his home track, but still slower.

Except for Lance!

He has to go it’s sad to say but my gosh Danny ric is ass now 😂

Its the expectation that daniel should be washing him and be well on his way to RBR by now thats making people say Daniel is done.

Well yeah Lawson was on his pace straight away and Gasly destroyed him

@@Duval-In-The-Wall Lawson was not on his pace

​@Duval-In-The-Wall he and pierre were much closer in the second year and maybe liam beat yuki when purely looking at results on Wikipedia, but his pace was (as should be expected) generally much weaker.

Couldn’t agree more, I hate how much people defend this guy when people like Lawson haven’t got a seat.

Tommo sippin copium juice. Love peak Ric, but something changed in him at McLaren mentally. Must have a huge weight on his shoulders with everyone wishing him the best.

Checo is quicker than Ricciardo.....

D(NF)aniel Ricciardo

Ya Checo is way better I'm biased because he's my favorite driver currently but Checko has proven himself as a very competent driver at racing point and does a great job as the 2 driver for Red Bull I think it's absolutely ridiculous there was ever any thought of replacing Checko for a way past his prime Ricardo they're not in the same league anymore not even close. The only driver I would be alright with Red Bull possibly replacing Checko with is Sainz because I truly think he's probably the 2nd or 3rd best driver at this point certainly better than an aging Lewis Hamilton and would make Red Bull even more dominant than it alrighty is which is a scary thought

Yuki was trained by Albon when he was shit.

Albon did it in 2022 against a multiple world champ

3 races blud

Hmmm, I'm not sure the numbers back that up fully. The 1 lap pace gap Albon to Sargeant seemed much bigger, although tbf Logan did outqualify Alex in Saudi. Just got that dumb track limit.

@@TheNotoriousB.E.N.Latifi was his teammate in 2022.

Even in Mexico last year Yuki was close to getting points before his mess up.

He has - and I believe a big part of that is his ability to outqualify Ricciardo so often.

you mention daniels bad luck in sort of a passing way, but he's been absolutely crippled by it in his races so far, its almost ridiculous how little has been said of it. He's had 2-3 races that have been uncompromised in his last season...and in one of those, he went nuts. 1. In hungary he was absolutely punted from behind by zhou, went to last and came back to finish in p13 after an amazing long stint on softs. 2. Spa, daniel and yuki had identical results that were mirrored in the sprint and the races, daniel had another unlucky track limits for race quali. I mean it was so identical they even benefitted from the same amount of dnf's in their races. 3. Zandvoort - obviously he broke his hand 4. Austin, running yuki's setup and had a MASSIVE piece of debris in his front left corner which killed his race, before that debris he actually caught up to yuki in the first stint. Yuki's points finish here was really a result of DSQ's farther up and not on track stuff. 5. Mexico, finally, an uncompromised weekend, and he did bit's qualifying p4 without a tow, p7 in the race and was fighting a merc on the last lap 6. Brazil - hit by a flying tyre lap one, placed a lap down by the stewards and was lapping third fastest overall behind the lead pack on race pace, would've beat yuki if not classified a lap down 7. Vegas - uncompromised weekend, car was slow here because of the same reasons it was fast in mexico he drove an okay race, yuki dnf'd 8. Abu Dhabi - tear off in brake duct, had to pit on lap 6? or something absurd like that, put him out of sync but he did well to recover to the edges of the points so sure, you can say daniel had his 'fair share of bad luck' but to think you could say the absolute same for yuki is a bit absurd. Yuki has had two significant point finishes that have become huge talking points that are more a result of dnf's and dsq's than they are a result of on track moves and positions...so for people to be able to make a comprehensive decision on daniel this early into the season, given his absolutely horrendous luck so far i think is a little absurd. Theres no denying yuki has been just that little faster this year so far, but to brush daniels 'bad luck' as something that isnt a significant dampener on some performances that he had that would have changed the perception of his head to head is a little unfair in my opinion.

@@SXNDITKEV Sorry but you are wrong. So, if you want to go race by race, and focus on whether Daniel had a chance to score points or not: Hungary - Stroll (who finished P10) had MUCH better pace than Danny so it was unlikely he would have scored points. Spa - Track limits = drivers fault. It has nothing to do with "luck". Zandvoort - I did not count that race, I only compared races where both Yuki and Daniel raced in. Austin - Given where Yuki finished, he could have scored points if not for the debris. Brazil - Yes he could have scored if it weren't for the tyre. Vegas - Car had absolutely no pace. Abu Dhabi - Daniel started P15, was unlikely he would have scored in the points. So essentially there were two potential race, Austin and Brazil, where Daniel could have realistically scored points. But then if you do the same exercise for Yuki, you can argue that he could have definitely scored points in Mexico if it weren't for the PU penalty, really bad strategy in Bahrain, and Magnussen's illegal overtake in Saudi so maybe he could have scored a point in either of the races. So that's potentially 2-3 race. This is why I say, when you just focus on whether the two drivers could have scored points, Yuki and Daniel are actual on par when it comes to "unluckiness". Either way, its a lot of ifs and buts, and reality is Yuki has had a clearer upper hand when it come to having point finishes which is their ultimate goal.

@@TommoOnUKposts Exactly, and a good reminder of how important qualifying is, especially for those in the back marker teams. In the race, there is much less a driver can do as ultimately cars will regress to where the car's performance is, and whilst drivers may be able to defend against faster cars to a certain extent, overtaking a faster car is near impossible. For me it is no surprise that Alex and Yuki were the highest point finishers out of the bottom 4 teams, because of their ability to qualify high and use their position to defend their position to death.

Oof, that'd be a vibe for sure

Yuki is pretty much guaranteed a seat at AMR for 2026 due to the Honda engine deal

@@sarimsalman2698 No ones guaranteed anything in F1

Daniel beat Hulk though.

@@justice4g That was when Daniel wasn't washed though

Exactly. OK maybe the first 2 races you can use it as an excuse, but if you are meant to be this super experienced and seasoned driver, then you are expected to adjust quickly.

Exactly. At the beginnging, I was ok wirh it when RBR took him back as test driver thinking they valued his commercial value. But when he’s given the chance to drive AT i was so comfused. Thennn considering him to replace Checo was completely insane. Whoever msde thst decision should not be allowred to seek new talents no more.

Well said, there’s this obsession with some fans about him thinking he’s gonna become this amazing driver maybe they are holding on to the past for me he’s done he’s not that young & he’s old but can’t lead as a team driver

Ricciardo’s prime was amazing, it’s hard for some people to acknowledge that past performance means nothing if you’re not currently performing.

You're forgetting the President of the Daniel Ricciardo Fan Club: Max Verstappen!

He couldn't do anything with it because Tsunoda's tantrum screwed it up.

He waited to long

@@walover165riccardo was only faster in clean air whilst yuki was in dirty air, as soon as riccardo got into dirty air he was never going to pass the next car

Yeah. Ricardo claim if let him. Off earlier he can. Some. How win the race.. What a bullshido driving.

I'm a Ric fan , but he might have to concede he's over the hill if he can't match or beat Yuki in the next few races. He's currently lost and confused like he was at McLaren.

You´ve got a very young dad then

Bro thanks for making me feel old 😭

Very good take. There were many drivers that were decent but they got rid off. Danny is done. He’s not a young prospect but treated like one for some reason

So are you like a toddler? :D

This has to be a joke, right? There is no way Tsunoda would outperform prime Ricciardo at Red Bull, that is utterly laughable I might as well tip Zhou to have been better than Vettel at Ferrari lmao

@@Duval-In-The-Wallhow can you say that when you haven’t seen it. Biased c**t. Yuki in the red bull could very well destroy Danny yet again.

@@Duval-In-The-Wallwe don’t know what peak Tsunoda is, and the regulations were completely different. The point of the comment is that it’s comparing apples to oranges.

@@HGRAP1 We did see Tsunoda drive the previous regulation of cars in 2021, and suffice to say he struggled “Peak Ricciardo” won races in 5 different seasons driving a non-dominant Red Bull He beat Vettel and Verstappen in the same car. Only a few on the current grid even come close to the driver he was

Of course everyone will ignore that since it has nothing to do with what is being discussed here? Who asked about Hamilton even?

I dunno, I think I've been fair on this. I literally say I felt Danny has only outperformed Yuki 2/10 weekends. I present the numbers that put Yuki consistently quicker. They do all the talking. In the first 6 of the 10 quali laps we have, there's literally less than a tenth between them. You've gotta acknowledge the good with the bad.

@@TommoOnUKpostscurious. Would it be an argument that to get the Red bull seat he should be slapping him up and getting 2+ tenths on him at least so he’s actually quite a few tenths off where he should be. Ofc that’s just quali tho

Not only that, but the Australia pace is only closer because Ricc was so far behind, he didnt have dirty air and nobody race. Defending does slow you down and also degrades your tires quicker, so Ricc was just given a free drive in most of Australia.

​@@TommoOnUKposts I think thats why your conclusion confused me. You acknowledge that Danny has only outperformed in 2/10 races, and that hes on average about 2 tenths slower. But chalk it up to him being confused about the car. Okay fine, but how long can that be an excuse for him? If it was a different team with different drivers and 80% of the time driver A was ~2 tenths faster in quali AND in race pace. When it comes to getting into a better team its unlikely Driver B would be considered an option. But because its Danny Ric its different? It's a fair statement that peak Riccardo is better than peak Yuki. But it has been a LOOOONG time since we have seen peak Riccardo, and I fail to see evidence that we will see it again.

​@@canton-7174 So the first fact is that Yuki has consistently outpaced Danny by 0.1 - 0.2 seconds give or take. Whether you think thats big or small is up to interpretation though as Tommo acknowledged, this 0.1 - 0.2 seconds gap could be difference between dropping out of Q1 or making it to Q3, so I personally think it is a big deal especially when this gap is so consistent. Then there is a different problem of expectations. The narrative was that Danny, an extremely experienced driver who apparently showed great pace in the Silverstone tyre test, was making a return as a potential raplcement for Checo. So, people naturally were expecting Danny to at the very minimum beat Yuki convincingly. Compared to that expectation, Daniel has MASSIVELY underperformed. Lastly, there always seems to be some kind of excuse for Daniel's performance, be it "oh he is coming from a break so he needs time" "he just broke his hand so he needs time to fully recover" "he needs time to adjust to the new car" "the car doesn't suit his driving style" "he got unlucky during the races" etc. The excuses go on and on. And whilst there could be some level of truth to some of the statements, at some point you can't continue to just keep on coming up with excuses for him.

100% agree. He definitely has his moments! So many p11s last year and that always made me nearly tear my hair out 😂😭

You rate Stroll higher than Yuki? Doubt. Yuki is probably one of the quickest and most consistent drivers in the grid this season. I'd even rate him in the Top 7 with Russell Hamilton and Stroll below him. George lacks race pace and consistency at the moment. Hamilton is already checked out of the season. Stroll is Stroll.

@@Gollum1905 Don’t be delusional, Yuki is not quite in their level but I think he’s sitting around the top 10. You can’t realistically rate Yuki against the likes of a top driver like Russell until Yuki hopefully moves to a better team in the future. Edit: In a current speed and consistency context Yuki is definitely up there but let’s wait until the end of the season to really get a gauge on this.

@@jamesvoneschen6603 I don't understand, you're agreeing with me but also call me delusional. Did you forget to take your meds?

Yuki would have come 11th in Australia if not for retirements and the penalty.. he goes backwards most races.

How so? Going a dew metrrs outside the track limit is alrrady a sign that he pushed the car over his ability to control it thus making error. So the time he made with that error was not valid. If he drove within the limit, the time woyld be even slower.

@@nino88881 You are both saying the same thing. Tommo included it more for the purpose of having an additional data point to compare their raw pace, but it was clearly his mistake and a very costly one as all he had to do was keep it within track limits and he should have at least progressed to Q2. Again, I don't think Tommo is suggeting his mistake should be excused, he is just using it to compare raw pace.

​@@nino88881 you just said the same thing as the op

I could see that happening mid season he’s just not good enough I’d prefer that seat goes to someone younger cause how many chances does he actually need he’s 34!🤷‍♂️

If things stay as they are - it'll be a sad end to a career with so much unfulfilled potential.

I've been disappointed for the last 3 years!

He just needs to pull the plug, Daniel will be loved either way. Not many drivers get the privilege of having a million overtake compilations made about them. DC had a similar career path end to that of DR, and he took it as “wow i’m actually not good anymore i should probably quit”, Daniel just needs to accept his performance cliff like Coulthard did. DR can race damn near anywhere he pleases after this unless he takes the Pundit route which he’d be terrific at.

I’m not I knew he was rubbish but y’all kept hyping him with no merit !! Now you can walk on that dog poop alongside Danny😒😏😏

As a mclaren fan besides monza 2021 I was dissapointed by his stint at the team!

Couldnt have said better than myself, the real victim of all of this is Liam which is in the sidelines while being the general best future driver in the Redbull group as a whole

Marko always had a soft spot for young drivers with raw speed. For evidence, remember Max's "crashtappen" era in first half 2018. Max managed to mature up after summer break, being a consistent top 3 in form alongside Hamilton and Raikkonem during that time period, leading to a driver we know today. Ricciardo on the other hand is on Horner's side. There was a rumour last year that Horner wanted to get rid Marko, Yuki, and Honda, consolidating the power for himself in wake of Mateschitz's passing and Marko's de Vries failure. So, Horner's support for Ricciardo and Marko backing up Yuki in a way is an extension of Horner/Marko power struggle. With Horner still being in Red Bull, they are not looking Yuki in high regard no matter what.

Marko Translation: "My horse is beating yours, Horny. Get fooked. Also, Iwasa is getting an FP".

Marko only does that to please Honda

@@antoniusbaswara8477stop with these FACTLESS RUMOURS…. Stop believing FAKE SOCIAL MEDIA…..

​@@antoniusbaswara8477That team is such a clusterfuck man

Fully agree, I think one thing that great drivers do is build up throughout qualifying. Max is prime example, where he always seems to find a bit more pace everytime he needs it. Yuki seems to have a good feel for how far he needs to push to move on to the next stage.

Cheers Steve!

More like stroll will sell the team and Yuki will go to AM for Honda endorsement lol. Yuki/sainz combo would be fun to watch

😮I've never considered this scenario. That would be fire tbh

He struggled the first year, but Renault too. 2020 is one of the best season of his career (P5 championship, 2 podiums, pretty much always in the top 7)

I don’t know why he get so much flak for his Renault stint since he comfortably beat his teammate both seasons and finished P5 in 2020

Carlos is already getting his seat fitted there.

Based on checo being absolute shit last year and ricciardo showing some promise Different story now but checo falls apart during the European leg of the season

Marketability? If Ricciardo performed just as good as Perez, it would have been a no brainer, Ricciardo can be marketed in all English speaking countries and more, Checo only has traction with the medium and upper Mexican class, but now… after the facts, we all know Ricciardo is far from being back in his old form, so switching him doesn’t make any sense.

@@quierover4locas DTS loves him. That is the marketability he has.

Checo should have been miles ahead of everyone else in Australia and bagged P1 without breaking a sweat. He didn't. In fact, he didn't even podium. Daniel's performance in the VCARB-01 is probably irrelevant if Red Bull know he's fast in the RB20, especially if he's faster than Checo (which is likely, especially given the inherent driving styles in question: Daniel's mirrors Max's, Checo's does not). Red Bull need a driver who, in the very least, can win when Max can't. They also need someone marketable, and who Max likes. I doubt they'll risk ruining Liam Lawson by promoting him too quickly (see: Gasly; Albon), and I doubt Yuki's really in contention for the Red Bull seat (he's talented, but he's Honda's pick). Carlos may not be willing to go back to Red Bull, and Alonso might be seen as too head-strong. It's not as simple as many people make out.

OMG! That's AMAZING. You must be psycho

Logan comes with money, I don’t think most people know this but his family is big in getting oil for the US Army

We'll see by the end of the year Alv, haha! Won't be the first time I'm wrong - but I've still got hope.

@@TommoOnUKposts ♥️

@@tf6shawnn rpm taught me

@@TommoOnUKposts so it seems from your latest vid you’re cashing out on Logan eh?

This is pure cope man, why would the team cater the car towards the slower driver, who has been nowhere for the past 3 years

He doesnt belong in the sport anymore its just how it is. Give the youth a chance what does a finished ricciardo add to the racesv

Because he is still better then 1/3rd the grid at his "washed" state

Feel like most of the comparisons in the video is to make the gap as small as possible.

The -0.610 gap is averaged over 2 stints so -0.610/2 = -0.305. It could be more accurate to take a weighted average where the gap would actually be slightly smaller

Yeah especially Australiam, where Ricc was just saving his tires because he didn't have anyone to race or defend against. It was just sailing in clean air, keeping tires as fresh as possible and still slower than Yuki.

@@F4LCoN13 it seems like if Tommo could get their lap time during VSC and Ricc was faster, he would include it.

🫡

but ric got hit in the back by joe.

Man, stop this. Logan is a WILLIAMS ACADEMY DRIVER so yeah ofc his owm team gives him 2 seasons! They even said they brought him into F1 a year too early. Lawson has been to DTM and Super Formula to prepare for F1…and cos he is part of RED BULL JUNIORS ACADEMY he stays at one of the RB teams. Bearman is a crash wonder in F3 and F2. Last season he crashed way too much!! Do you even watch F3 and F2? Even this weekend he made a mess of his F2 Quali and the race…. He is fast or he is camikaze… there’s nothing in between with Bearman in F3 and F2…. Seriously. Bearman needs to grow, clean up his act first. De Vries was already 28….. had 3 years of tyre testing and sim work at Mercedes F1 team…and was arrogantly claiming he would be teamleader at AT…and said that he even wouldn’t listen to YUKI cos he was only funny…and he couldn’t learn anything from YUKI…. De Vries crashed way too much and was NOWHERE NEAR THE TEAMLEADER… Bearman had the 2nd fastest car to drive in Jeddah.. and you compare that to the Williams????? 😂 You serious? Stop comparing rookies from different academies…their OWN TEAMS should give them a seat, like Williams did to Logan. Williams has 2 F2 rookie drivers currently on the grid preparing them for F1. De Vries was NO SUER SUB at all, he failed as seasoned driver….

@@Redlingstein I take on board what you're saying, and rookies do need some time to show what they can do, but its the top 20 seats in motorsport, so to finish with just 1 (retrospective, following DQs) point at the end of a complete season when other drivers have jumped in equally backmarker cars (DV in williams, and Lawson in an AT) and scored in less time. Teams need to score, vowles made that clear when he put alex in the car. $12million extra for each constructors place is no joke I maintain that Nyck De Vries made a mistake going to redbull. If he'd have joined williams, as they offered him, to start in 2023, he'd already been a merc jnr under vowles, but he could sit in that car, with that team around him and albon to learn from, knowing he had legit scored points already in their car, for that team. I think that does a lot for confidence. And he would have been given the same patience likely that logan is being shown. sadly the allure of RB must have been too good.

They always do. I'm Canadian. Try hearing about how Lance Stroll doesn't belong on the grid shouldn't be on the grid, but read the excuses for Riccardo, and it makes your head hurt. He's a drive to survive. The only thing is he talks to survive a drive.

GT4

@@dennisdevries2745 tyvm

It's no competition really, then

Hes not getting it anyway. He has to hope to not get dropped mid season

@@filmgeschichte. even if they drop him as a driver, they will keep him on a PR role, thats how much RB love him.

As if he doesn’t know that………

lmaoo he aint getting anywhere NEAR that Rb seat😂😂 dude is struggling to hold onto his current seat with a looming liam lawson in the background

Not nyck debris 😭