I wonder if this will hurt "engagement" metrics with UKposts, since commenting is one of the ways creators usually drive engagement and get their videos in more of the suggested feeds
@iguana272Рік тому
I'd presume that Watch time and likes were more important, but this is youtube, so who knows? UKposts definitely doesn't
@konstantin.vРік тому
I hope it will. Grandpas need to learn how internet works 🙄
@fanq_Рік тому
it might, or it might not, I don't know if "unapproved" comments still count for algorithm or not
@CGPGreyРік тому
It will 100% hurt engagement, which might indeed hurt the video's reach. I hope not, but that's partly why this is an experiment.
@ajmccorristin1125Рік тому
Guess We'll Just have to engage more
@aykanyavas6398Рік тому
UKposts needs to give us a way to disable shorts. I don’t want to see them, but they always end up taking away hours of my time.
@ripbobsaget6953Рік тому
Facts. I click on one interesting vid and I wake up an hour and a half later
@rich9684Рік тому
So true! I start with one short from a creator I like then two hours later I am watching people make fart putty.
@icwattoРік тому
there is an extension for Firefox and probably chrome too
@ethandenson7182Рік тому
Please! I’ve been asking them for it through the feedback thing
@CGPGreyРік тому
I would pay UKposts EXTRA MONEY ON TOP OF PREMIUM to never see a short again.
@RegendurРік тому
I love being part of exclusive content.
@AzmarithРік тому
Me too!
@rearles4951Рік тому
For years I’ve been a student and thus banned from becoming a Bonnie Bee. I’m finally in a financially stable place outside of school and so I’m so happy to be a Bonnie Bee.
@CGPGreyРік тому
Happy to hear that you are in a stable place -- congratulations!
@rearles4951Рік тому
@@CGPGrey Thank you! I just got offered a decent promotion as well. Things are looking up.
@ajs1998Рік тому
What does this mean? Is grey saying "don't give me money if you're a student" or "Patreon won't let you if you're a student"?
@rearles4951Рік тому
@@ajs1998 Grey would prefer it if you focused on yourself first. Focus on the schooling as that’s the most important. He’s not going anywhere and he’ll be here when you are done with the schooling. Only after you are in a stable place, he’d welcome the support.
@florenceyuanmdРік тому
@@ajs1998 Grey states not to give money to support him unless you are financially able to support yourself, and he specifically excludes students from that category.
@XadackaPhotographyРік тому
Blue ticks are out, being allowed to comment on CGP Grey videos is in as the internets new status symbol
@gnarled128Рік тому
God, I hate those bots. So glad you’re doing something about it!
@RattiarРік тому
I love that you are doing this. Thank you! I will try to comment and engage on every video you make from now on, to help with that "engagement" score UKposts likes so much.
@michellehao2000Рік тому
I fear putting the comments section behind barriers of entry that require you to already love and support CGP Grey (or at least care about enough to click onto a subreddit) is going to come at the huge cost of creating artificial environments where you will no longer recieve feedback from more "casual viewers" or "people who dislike your content but have something productive to say about it." To me this is ripe grounds for creating an echo chamber of false positivity- fundamentally altering the function of the comments section as a whole and isn't worth it just to get rid of scambots or sexbots. Also the way you frame this pivot in your Patreon post focuses more on gaining more monetary support as the primary goal with the sexbot/chatbot deterrent almost as secondary. But it is the opposite for the UKposts video itself. I understand and would be happy to support your videos as you are one of my favorite UKpostsrs, but not empasizing the obvious monetary gains and even framing it as, "a better way to get rid of sexbots and chatbots" (especially given my critisms with the experiment) feels irresponsible at best and fraudulant at worst.
@herrabanani7 місяців тому
if people want to reach out to him there are other ways to so such as trough the reddit.
@michellehao20006 місяців тому
@@herrabanani Sure, but first off, there is suspiciously no reddit thread for this video, secondly all these barriers still filter for people who already like grey enough to care to go through the activation energy to click a second link. Although I am one of those people, what this does is effectively make the actual, wildly accessible youtube comments as rewarding as any Mr.Beast comments section, and that's just kind of sad.
@tehcrashxorРік тому
Sounds like a lot of work. Hope to see it work out.
@bee2bee880Рік тому
Feels awkward since my username was already “bee” before this, but this finally encouraged me to join. What Grey said about UKposts favoring shorts at the cost of long-term videos really hit home with me. I guess UKposts was trying to rival tiktok with their mindset behind as they offered up to a 10,000 dollar bonus depending on how well it did. As such, minimal effort, low quality content that can be pushed easily for views gets shown to viewers. Meanwhile, high quality, high effort content often suffers at the cost of it and hardly sees anywhere near as much SEO. It’s frustrating, but it’s the nature of things I suppose. Still, it’s amusing to me how I’ve seen certain content creators upload a short, wait a couple months, then upload it again and gets hundreds of thousands of views.
@TheEvilGreeboРік тому
Happy to support your efforts! Only recently found you but your Tiffany pain struck me.
@herrabananiРік тому
been a fan of yours for a long time and am happy to see every one of your uploads
@coopercarson2301Рік тому
I don't like this grey.....
@danmorgan7129 місяців тому
Agreed
@ripbobsaget6953Рік тому
But how will I find out if there’s hot singles in my area now 😭
@carykhРік тому
I am now a proud Bonnie bee! 🎉🎉🎉
@gonenutsbrbРік тому
Understandable idea, keep us posted on how it works over time!
@queenofthesalt5199Рік тому
Specifically got a Patreon since I love your content. Keep it up!
@PokerageAHРік тому
I have a question, If we join for 1 month and then choose to not renew, we will no longer be able to comment or will we still be "verified humans"
@notthatmikedРік тому
Just commenting here to try to boost your algorithm and because I've been pre-approved, and to try to fight any of the hurt of the engagement that some others are speculating about, which I also wondered about.
@Morganinism2Рік тому
I've been here a while and I am happy to support you and do what I can to make your process easier
@kenna176Рік тому
I can't wait for the Cortex episode about this 😂
@SkylerKehrenРік тому
This is going to be an interesting experiment indeed. 🐝 I wish UKposts weren't such a seemingly effective target for scammers.
@2011blankaРік тому
Kinda sucks that UKposts forces creator to limit people from commenting, thus hurting both the creator and they community
@mintman325Рік тому
Well Grey I’m happy to support you. One of only two channels I do. Keep up the heart content
@hughmoren5958Рік тому
Interesting to see how this experiment plays out. Hopefully we'll get a followup video in a year or so
@michellehao20009 місяців тому
Just checking if I can still comment after my patreon expired
@rhas356Рік тому
I thought that as someone who is both a Patreon member and someone who doesn't use Reddit, I should provide a voice of dissent. Grey is more qualified than I to speak to the business ramifications. I speak to the unfair effects for freezing out on the actual medium anyone who can't pay for the membership. I'd much rather we had an experiment where bonnie bees were urged to aggressively report the spam comments, rather than ignore them. I would *also* rather deal with any leftover spam than freeze out such a huge fraction of our membership. To me, such a significant difference between the have-bees and have-not-bees, is counter to the ethics of Grey's community.
@davidr7493Рік тому
Grey, thank you for the years of educational content.
@4d65Рік тому
It's an honor to get to support you making these animated explainers. Thank you very much!
@joshpearson2928Рік тому
Idk man I've seen the comments on much more viral video channels and the bots aren't that bad. Maybe it's noticeable on the creator end, but I hardly see anything. Limiting comments to just "Bonnie Bees" sounds like a bad idea and would come across as grifting money from people for a problem that doesn't really exist.
@kevanromeroРік тому
I'm not really sure how this experiment works, but I signed up and am commenting to support one of my favorite channels. Good luck!
@andreipaun5627Рік тому
So you won't be able to comment anymore unless you pay?
@benoit-pierredemaine3824Рік тому
until Google does its job and actually closes accounts of « non human ». see EULA for details. they are not applied. so yes on short term, grey is : - doing Google's job - certifying humans himself and it has the side effect you mention ...
@JamesofurРік тому
Interesting experiment, hopeful that it helps without hurting engagement “too” much but oh boy you’re not joking about the admin nightmare. Looking forward to it and crossed fingers 🤞 but oh boy good luck!
@AndreAlforqueРік тому
Signed up! Thanks for the long form content!
@ChengesuРік тому
I've heard enough of Grey's opinion of email discussed on Cortex to be amazed by a signup process which involves "now send me a message", but I guess that's what needs to happen when you fight the UKposts juggernaut.
@tommyfrerkingРік тому
Grey, I'm glad you are experimenting with ways to make the channel work rather than hanging it all up. I'm all for long form content. Heck, I became a Bonnie Bee when you live streamed playing Minecraft. Can't get much more long form than that!
@jasonsending8654 місяці тому
Finally not a student. Now a bee
@DylanStone96Рік тому
Love the content Grey!!!
@olivianava5422Рік тому
I wasn't in a financially stable place until like 8 months ago, but ! I signed up then because I remember I was a student when the first patreon video came out and I was like "damn that's some good moral values from one of my favorite youtubers, I will remember." and so I subbed at my first opportunity remembering that. Thanks for being a good one Grey!
@notravstarРік тому
I can't believe UKposts doesn't have an option for that.
@CGPGreyРік тому
Tell me about it.
@morganmuffleРік тому
I really hope this works as a method for you as I know comments help get videos seen and also I do love reading comments from your followers / patreons.
@mgweatherman08Рік тому
Grey, I've been here from the early days. Through the land of Hello Internet into the void of Cortext, and now am a happy Bonnie Bee. You're content is so worth it. Keep up the good work.
@danielbaliki2698Рік тому
It's an interesting experiment for sure. Fingers crossed it works out for you.
@RoronoaZoroSenseiРік тому
Oh man I totally get the point of this. But it does feel a bit bad, like "banning the poor from conversation", "inhibiting free spech" yada yada If the real conversation is happening on reddit anyways, why not lock the comments here completely? I dunno I hope it works out, or rather, I hope youtube fucking fixes their own problem
@austinkopp9811Рік тому
Very proud to be able to contribute to one of my favorite all-time creators. Thank you for being you.
@SamKaufmanIsHereРік тому
Good luck with this experiment
@patty4349Рік тому
Ok, I joined. I use these videos in my classroom so I don't mind helping you out but I definitely cannot afford to do this on every channel! You Tube needs to do something like this to end the bot infestation.
@startrek2365Рік тому
Been supporting you for a long time and See no reason to stop now. For those that can't afford to. DON'T you take care of you first.
@ZachBranniganРік тому
Where I stand in the sea of a thousand comments, I do not believe that I would reasonably bee able to add to the conversation in a way that a dozen others hadn't already. However, I also believe in the widespread dissemination of educational content regardless and so a bee I am.
@nkrat1093Рік тому
My sympathies go out to you and your team for having to go through this
@xiaodownРік тому
See, here's the thing with UKposts Shorts. UKposts is scared of TikTok, so they're pushing the shorts. What they should be is REJOICING in TikTok, because ... when someone leaves UKposts for TikTok, the quality of both platforms increases.
@alexcrouseРік тому
Quality isn't something UKposts cares about. Metrics they can show to advertisers is. That is their exclusive goal.
@aftongauntlett9463Рік тому
Happy to support your content.
@ng855Рік тому
Where big fish swim parasites are sure to be found
@senorkenyon3306Рік тому
I look to forward to seeing how this plays out
@mickfanning93Рік тому
so it wasn't april fools
@EricMBlogРік тому
I wonder how this might hurt engagement/spread of videos. Only time (and statistics) will tell!
@lordtisrocРік тому
Keep up the good work!
@TheMorteyРік тому
Hope you are doing well, and il watch your videoes all day waiting for the "stories for another time"... WHEN WHEN? I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THE EU STORY FOR 10 YEARS!
@cottilionРік тому
I gladly and happily support the amazing work you and your team are doing. Plowing though all that data and information. Please keep up the fine work.
@badluckpoppyРік тому
I just signed up. I realized I could also rack up some play points with the purchase and I hope they'll keep coming every month. As for the shorts I do my best to avoid them. I basically never open YT Home page and hang out in my subscriptions.
@EllipsismarkРік тому
I'm glad we're sponsored you enough so that you never have to take another skillshare sponsorship. (I hate skillshare for being little more than a glorified UKposts clone but with a premium.)
@LaSDettaРік тому
4$ a month seems a bit steep if all you want is to moderate chat. 1$/month might get you more signups of your "real" subscribers. EDIT: it's apparently 3$/month on UKposts and 4$ on Patreon
@HowlingSocksРік тому
Good luck with the admin work!
@BeauRON11 місяців тому
I haven't really seen any bots in the youtube comment section.
@jeromaxyuРік тому
Thanks for your effort!
@marcuswong730Рік тому
As someone in a country with an actually healthy educational system I am both a college student and can afford this with my part-time money so you can't stop me Grey take my money!
@ShippochiРік тому
As soon as I finally got a stable income, supporting on Patreon was one of the first things I did. I don't place a very high value on my ability to comment on things, I'm just glad I can support your work directly! Best of luck sorting through all of us though. It sounds like a monumental task!
@TheNinja131Рік тому
University student here. It is a bit annoying/inconvenient having to navigate away from the site just to leave a comment but I understand. It'll be interesting to see where this goes
@michellehao2000Рік тому
Where is the subreddit for this video?
@TPNYCРік тому
Short comment. Thanks for all your content over the years. I joined to say this.
@paxman192Рік тому
"Hello Internet" 😞
@justinworthamРік тому
Great idea!
@JanKentaurРік тому
Hopefully this will help! I should have started the support a long time ago anyway :D
@willingmrkayРік тому
Good thing you posted this, I forgot my sub had been canceled. fixed :)
@7raizenРік тому
Is this only one time for this video and all others will be automatically approved? Otherwise, the amount of work needed to approve all legitimate comments for every video would probably eclipse the amount required to ban / silence the bot accounts.
@ytgunawanРік тому
only patreon? but I'm a youtube bonnie bee member for a year already.... don't want to lose the bee icon and emotes
@CGPGreyРік тому
You don't!
@benoit-pierredemaine3824Рік тому
problem occurs only for patron. bonnies from Google are already certified.
@TheOrangeMasterРік тому
wohoo, I will put the extra effort to raise the engagement
@KordaMachalaРік тому
Can't you automate it with some UI testing framework like RobotFramework?
@gottliebwurstРік тому
I'm not happy about the split of bees versus non-bees but I wanted to support the Channel for years now and take this as the opportunity to do so. It's the best content I could dream of AND presented with such a great sense of humor, I'm blasted after every single video.... thank you so much for all your hard work!!!
@KnowMoreFM11 місяців тому
I look forward to seeing how this works!
@JunesGoРік тому
Question. I can't see how anyone other than myself would be able to verify the connection between me and the completely different usernames I have on Patreon, UKposts and Discord. What happens then? Is there a step I'd have to take to connect my UKposts account to my Patreon as verification? Also, would I have to upgrade my Patreon subscription to the Bonnie Bee tier? I wouldn't want to do that because Ad-block absolution so perfectly encapsulates what I'm subscribed for.
@thelonewolfspiritРік тому
Instead of bots, let there be bees! 🐝
@jennttaylorРік тому
Hooray bees!
@helleye311Рік тому
Only now for just 2.99$ a month you too can have a fresh new bestagon honeycomb next to your name. Should've done this sooner but oh well. I'm curious to see the spike in memberships on the analytics dashboard, but that's probably confidential info youtube wouldn't want you to post. I'm sure there's a nice bump though.
@lokiisbestantihero8 місяців тому
Whatever works 🤷🏻♀️
@Silentstrike46xРік тому
Leaving a comment so I can get access :P Makes sense why you're doing this! Fully support you.
@pokemonandrobloxlover9 місяців тому
i dont comment a lot so hope it keeps it easier
@ajmccorristin1125Рік тому
Question, is This only for patron, or will you be allowing members to post as well?
@darkassasin091Рік тому
I have been watching you since my Uni days Grey! Now that I have some disposable income, might as well support my favorite content creator. Thank you for existing
@BLazeWigglytuffРік тому
Joined just for this haha
@MyrddinEРік тому
This may become the only UKposts channel where I actually read the comments.
@garyk4013Рік тому
I’ve enjoyed your content for sooooo looooong. Of course I’ll be your Bonnie Bee 🐝
@jcoogs7149Рік тому
Whoever designed the sex bot needs a raise
@andywest676811 місяців тому
Thanks!
@EloyRamirezРік тому
Love your videos!
@JordanBeagle2 місяці тому
How did I miss this?
@IgthornOfDrekmoreРік тому
Ahhhhh, the Bee Privilege! I already feel very sophisticated and important. 😅
@joshuaadesida3 місяці тому
Is it still like this?
@DwerynithРік тому
good luck grey !
@srabbelierРік тому
It's up to us, the Bonnie bees, to drive up the engagement metrics now.